Not these days. It used to be about bringing women up but instead the aim is to bring men down. Don't get me wrong, I know it's not that way all throughout but that seems to be where mainstream feminism puts its focus.
No! - Being offended about female characters in video games and any other media and say women should not be "oversexualized" - Complaining about being paid less when it's really based on the type of work chosen, etc. - Much more negative stuff.
Feminism is now a degenerate and totalitarian-ish movement. To hell with all of it.
No, it's an inherently feminine movement the describes men as a virus in its 4th wave. First two waves I would say yes but moddern feminists tarnished the legacy of the first two. Every movement has an "other" to be demonized for feminism (in its moddern form) thats white men. If the movement was for men too they would incorporate some men's rights into their cause. As a human rights movement. In reality their representatives demonize those who fight for men's rights.
No, despite the movement being always broadcasted as advocating equality for women and men, its only under the premise that is focused on women's rights. The problem is, people throw the term feminism around and people always bend their ideologies to serve what they are biased for. Thats why there's so much disagreement.
3rd / 4th wave feminism in the West , is for men , in the same way Christmas is for turkeys !! If the feminists , esp the leadership , had their way , they would take care of men... Al Pacino style !!
We don't need feminism. We need people to be more responsible, understanding and loving. Feminism has taken evil tones as well in the recent times - that's not the society we should be going towards.
As much as I dislike MRAs, I never actually see mainstream feminists talk about the issues men face. In fact, most of them either brush it under the rug when asked about it or even encourages it. Now, I definitely do not mean ALL feminists, or even the majority of the general population identifying as feminists, but the ones who actually get platforms and coverage.
Sadly I agree, it does need addressing and validation. The notion I find absurd, is that people think there’s a difference between men’s rights and women’s rights, when it should merely be human rights. Equality doesn’t have a gender.
There was a bar here in Sweden that introduced a new rule: Unless you are seen sitting at the same table or give a heads-up to the security guards saying that "We are here together", any sort of physical contact between people, including employees, would immediately get thrown out. The reason they decided to make that a rule was because some male customers had complained about being felt up by women and not having the security guard taking it seriously. When this happened, a lot of women in Gothenburg started REALLY complaining about it, because they were now forced to face the same consequences as a man and be held to the same behavioral standards. These were the same women who would be cheering if it was the other way around, but because they now can't go to a bar and touch men as much as they want, they considered it a violation of their rights and some even went as far as to say that the entire rule was "slut shaming" because it didn't allow them to be as creepy as they wanted.
Well, luckily, the bar in question stood their ground. Many other businesses, especially small ones, would quickly crack under the pressure, especially since the people who liked the new rule (which, luckily, did seem to be the majority of people) didn't say anything.
I would really like other places to do the same. Of course, flirting with people you don't know in a bar is going to happen, but you can do that without touching them.
Feminism is there for men also and we call it equality. i believe women have to be treated the same way and with the same rights as a man. And they should have equal responsibilities too.
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That video perfectly sums up all of the "good" things feminism has done for both women and men. lol
The net effect of feminism on men has been overwhelmingly negative. Anyone who argues otherwise is being very dishonest. I see there are a lot of dishonest women right here in this thread.
You need therapy, your community is fucking annoying. You don’t need to use any opportunity to harass random people online with your fetish. You know what you can do go tie a rope around your neck and a tree and just throw yourself off that’ll be degrading.
İs talking with people harassment? YES, according to feminists. But not for normal people. If I am not normal, you more anormal than me. Believe me. No one can be more anormal than feminists. According to feminists all of the things are harassment and rape. You feminists need therapy. Not me. Even slaves are more normal than feminists. Cuz slaves don't attack anyone. But feminists attack all men. Who is more harmful?
Cry me a riverrr, You brought your fetish up to get your rocks off like why would you just comment that? You’re not normal period like in real life people like you are sickening, you don’t just comment about yourself retarded fetishes on post that have nothing to do with it and expect a warm ass embrace.
Did you normalize slaves? Get help seriously. Stfu I don’t EVER see women commenting on random people’s post deflecting from it to take the time to talk about there disgusting ass fetish let’s keep it real here now.!
Feminists normalize slavery. Femdom and findom are created by feminists and they spread this to the world. 3. and 4. wave of feminism created in USA. Findom is created in Europe and femdom is created in Usa. BY FEMİNİSTS. Even 1 feminist in Grecee she use hypnotic videos. I saw plenty of feminists only who harass men and want money from them. Findom brain washing and humiliation videos are the most harasment videos towards men. Millions of kids use internet and they see those materials in twitter, in youtube. What do feminist Susan Wojcicki do against those videos? Feminist Ceo of youtube don't do anything. She let them and she also spread those videos to everyone. Cuz she is also a feminist.
So please, if you are a feminist, don't talk about bulshit. You can talk about bullshit but not in this level. Cuz your level of nonsense and bullshit stuff is extremely high. And that makes world sad. :(
Liesss liesss and so much more liesss women don’t act like men when it comes to harassing people you are the only group of people that feel entitled to everything. Feminism exist because it has to and one amazing feminist matter a fact one of my top favs is d’angelo Wallace a man.
Maybe “the evil hating man hating women” don’t actually hate men but men like you ones who feel entitled to start talking about their nasty aaa fetishes anywhere they want for an obvious reason yet also want decent respect and not to be called out for it.
None of the things I said is a lie. These are all real. I can even send millions of evidence for that. But you can even check them on the internet yourself. And I know feminists really know what is happening in the world. But they just don't care mens issues. Believe me, if women treat men good, men would treat women good as well. Why we pay alimony to women, why we go to military but women don't. Why we don't go hospitals in our country ffree but women go free? Women who accuse men for harassment and rape falsely , they didn't receive any punishment and feminists never talk about it, misandrist media didn't talk about it. WHY WHY WHY? I am asking why?
5 men gave you dislike. Why? Cuz you want to make women superior. And also call me a bad person while you and your community created femdom and findom. I think you feminists want to kill all men. That is what feminism's purpose.
Communism and feminism are the same thing in purpose. Killing people.
I don’t care about your opinion of feminist this isn’t about what you think or not, what part of you don’t matter when it comes to talking about it? Women pay alimony stfu it’s based on who makes more adele just for hit it and so have tons of other women with money including my 2 of my aunts. Women do serve what are you talking about? You might not because you don’t have insurance but that’s not a gender thing goofy. There’s no such thing you need actual solid evidence, you can’t just say he did this and have him locked up there has to be actual dna or otherwise verbally confirming what howlers himself typically through fake calls conducted by the police. You can go to prison for false allegations what are you talking about ! That’s a crime as it is.
Thank you. For example me. I love dominant women using me and humiliate me. İts good that we all feminist men know our place. And you also know your place.
It would’ve been 100 years ago when feminism was needed. But in this century, it’s not for men unless they’re self-loathing, desperate, white knight suck-ups looking to lose their virginity by any means necessary 🤦🏻♂️
Fuck no. It never was but at least it wasn't in the good way, y'know? Like it was to have women be equal to men. Now with third wave feminism, that's a completely different story, it still isn't but in a bad way, y'know what I mean?
Well the world is trying to move on from that, since quite a long time before you were born so if you could stop holding back the progress of humans that would be great.
Its about equality now you see so if you aren't backing that horse you are going to lose the race.
@Oram52 I'm from Italy and Vietnam but that's besides the point, I mean you don't really have to identify as a feminist to be one, if that makes sense. Like feminism before it got all twisted was simply the concept of wanting equality.
It changed with onset of third wave feminism, so you have pseudo-intellectual stuff like male gaze, male privilege, toxic masculinity, cultural appropriation etc. Its part of leftwing progressive politics.
Identifying as feminism is important if feminism is relevant, if not even half the population support feminism how would feminism be relevant today? That's the point it isn't.
Only about 25% of people label themselves as feminists in Italy so its unlikely all the guys around you are feminists :)
No I am not anti-feminist but that girl just annoyed me. I think we need feminism in a lot of places in the world. And some social structures and stereotypes need to be changed and that also applies to guys. The demands we have for both genders are changing, I think for the better. I think we are equal but not similar, yet complimentary. Hence why both inputs in everything is necessary.
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Yes. It’s simply equal rights for women. Anything more is adding undo burden onto a word. You want to hate social justice warriors fine. But feminism is simply one thing, equality.
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Not these days. It used to be about bringing women up but instead the aim is to bring men down. Don't get me wrong, I know it's not that way all throughout but that seems to be where mainstream feminism puts its focus.
No!
- Being offended about female characters in video games and any other media and say women should not be "oversexualized"
- Complaining about being paid less when it's really based on the type of work chosen, etc.
- Much more negative stuff.
Feminism is now a degenerate and totalitarian-ish movement. To hell with all of it.
No, it's an inherently feminine movement the describes men as a virus in its 4th wave. First two waves I would say yes but moddern feminists tarnished the legacy of the first two. Every movement has an "other" to be demonized for feminism (in its moddern form) thats white men. If the movement was for men too they would incorporate some men's rights into their cause. As a human rights movement. In reality their representatives demonize those who fight for men's rights.
No, despite the movement being always broadcasted as advocating equality for women and men, its only under the premise that is focused on women's rights. The problem is, people throw the term feminism around and people always bend their ideologies to serve what they are biased for. Thats why there's so much disagreement.
It's about equality between both sexes, so it largely involves men too, as opposed to what many feminazi believe
Exactly thank you
3rd / 4th wave feminism in the West , is for men , in the same way Christmas is for turkeys !! If the feminists , esp the leadership , had their way , they would take care of men... Al Pacino style !!
I guess that 'if you want equality, you're a feminist' but I just hate that word so so much it's wrong
Equality? Women get treated way better than black people. Lol feminism shouldn't be a thing
@pokefan117 probably the realest comment here lol
You all are right
@pokefan117 so ones that also experience injustice but (lets say) less than some others shouldn't fight for their rights?
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We don't need feminism. We need people to be more responsible, understanding and loving. Feminism has taken evil tones as well in the recent times - that's not the society we should be going towards.
Yeah. That’s why I think the whole men’s rights movement is pointless, because feminism is meant to address inequality between men and women.
As much as I dislike MRAs, I never actually see mainstream feminists talk about the issues men face. In fact, most of them either brush it under the rug when asked about it or even encourages it.
Now, I definitely do not mean ALL feminists, or even the majority of the general population identifying as feminists, but the ones who actually get platforms and coverage.
Sadly I agree, it does need addressing and validation. The notion I find absurd, is that people think there’s a difference between men’s rights and women’s rights, when it should merely be human rights. Equality doesn’t have a gender.
There was a bar here in Sweden that introduced a new rule: Unless you are seen sitting at the same table or give a heads-up to the security guards saying that "We are here together", any sort of physical contact between people, including employees, would immediately get thrown out. The reason they decided to make that a rule was because some male customers had complained about being felt up by women and not having the security guard taking it seriously. When this happened, a lot of women in Gothenburg started REALLY complaining about it, because they were now forced to face the same consequences as a man and be held to the same behavioral standards. These were the same women who would be cheering if it was the other way around, but because they now can't go to a bar and touch men as much as they want, they considered it a violation of their rights and some even went as far as to say that the entire rule was "slut shaming" because it didn't allow them to be as creepy as they wanted.
Fuck them. You don’t touch people without asking, that’s a basic common courtesy. :/
Apparently, not according to local media. The very little coverage this got was heavily skewed in favor of the people protesting the rule.
Pathetic. Reverse the roles and you’ll see the shit logic they have.
Well, luckily, the bar in question stood their ground. Many other businesses, especially small ones, would quickly crack under the pressure, especially since the people who liked the new rule (which, luckily, did seem to be the majority of people) didn't say anything.
Good glad to hear it
I would really like other places to do the same. Of course, flirting with people you don't know in a bar is going to happen, but you can do that without touching them.
Agreed. The touching is unnecessary unless it’s plain to see that both parties enjoy it. But the dynamics, I don’t know.
Feminism is there for men also and we call it equality. i believe women have to be treated the same way and with the same rights as a man. And they should have equal responsibilities too.
That video perfectly sums up all of the "good" things feminism has done for both women and men. lol
The net effect of feminism on men has been overwhelmingly negative. Anyone who argues otherwise is being very dishonest. I see there are a lot of dishonest women right here in this thread.
Yes feminism is for men there’s a bunch of feminist men :)
Yes, For example me. I love dominant women using me and humiliate me.
You need therapy, your community is fucking annoying.
You don’t need to use any opportunity to harass random people online with your fetish.
You know what you can do go tie a rope around your neck and a tree and just throw yourself off that’ll be degrading.
İs talking with people harassment? YES, according to feminists. But not for normal people. If I am not normal, you more anormal than me. Believe me. No one can be more anormal than feminists. According to feminists all of the things are harassment and rape. You feminists need therapy. Not me. Even slaves are more normal than feminists. Cuz slaves don't attack anyone. But feminists attack all men. Who is more harmful?
And put that in your mind : Femdom and findom community are created by feminists. This is not my community. THİS İS YOUR COMMUNİTY!
Cry me a riverrr,
You brought your fetish up to get your rocks off like why would you just comment that?
You’re not normal period like in real life people like you are sickening, you don’t just comment about yourself retarded fetishes on post that have nothing to do with it and expect a warm ass embrace.
Did you normalize slaves? Get help seriously.
Stfu I don’t EVER see women commenting on random people’s post deflecting from it to take the time to talk about there disgusting ass fetish let’s keep it real here now.!
You are a sick feminist. 😂😂
Feminists normalize slavery. Femdom and findom are created by feminists and they spread this to the world. 3. and 4. wave of feminism created in USA. Findom is created in Europe and femdom is created in Usa. BY FEMİNİSTS. Even 1 feminist in Grecee she use hypnotic videos. I saw plenty of feminists only who harass men and want money from them. Findom brain washing and humiliation videos are the most harasment videos towards men. Millions of kids use internet and they see those materials in twitter, in youtube. What do feminist Susan Wojcicki do against those videos? Feminist Ceo of youtube don't do anything. She let them and she also spread those videos to everyone. Cuz she is also a feminist.
So please, if you are a feminist, don't talk about bulshit. You can talk about bullshit but not in this level. Cuz your level of nonsense and bullshit stuff is extremely high. And that makes world sad. :(
Liesss liesss and so much more liesss women don’t act like men when it comes to harassing people you are the only group of people that feel entitled to everything.
Feminism exist because it has to and one amazing feminist matter a fact one of my top favs is d’angelo Wallace a man.
Maybe “the evil hating man hating women” don’t actually hate men but men like you ones who feel entitled to start talking about their nasty aaa fetishes anywhere they want for an obvious reason yet also want decent respect and not to be called out for it.
None of the things I said is a lie. These are all real. I can even send millions of evidence for that. But you can even check them on the internet yourself. And I know feminists really know what is happening in the world. But they just don't care mens issues. Believe me, if women treat men good, men would treat women good as well. Why we pay alimony to women, why we go to military but women don't. Why we don't go hospitals in our country ffree but women go free? Women who accuse men for harassment and rape falsely , they didn't receive any punishment and feminists never talk about it, misandrist media didn't talk about it. WHY WHY WHY? I am asking why?
5 men gave you dislike. Why? Cuz you want to make women superior. And also call me a bad person while you and your community created femdom and findom. I think you feminists want to kill all men. That is what feminism's purpose.
Communism and feminism are the same thing in purpose. Killing people.
Can you describe feminism and masculism? And for you what is the difference?
I don’t care about your opinion of feminist this isn’t about what you think or not, what part of you don’t matter when it comes to talking about it? Women pay alimony stfu it’s based on who makes more adele just for hit it and so have tons of other women with money including my 2 of my aunts.
Women do serve what are you talking about? You might not because you don’t have insurance but that’s not a gender thing goofy.
There’s no such thing you need actual solid evidence, you can’t just say he did this and have him locked up there has to be actual dna or otherwise verbally confirming what howlers himself typically through fake calls conducted by the police. You can go to prison for false allegations what are you talking about ! That’s a crime as it is.
Got hit for it*
He himself typically did*
I find it attractive in men, shows he apperaicates women.
Thank you. For example me. I love dominant women using me and humiliate me. İts good that we all feminist men know our place. And you also know your place.
It would’ve been 100 years ago when feminism was needed. But in this century, it’s not for men unless they’re self-loathing, desperate, white knight suck-ups looking to lose their virginity by any means necessary 🤦🏻♂️
Fuck no. It never was but at least it wasn't in the good way, y'know? Like it was to have women be equal to men. Now with third wave feminism, that's a completely different story, it still isn't but in a bad way, y'know what I mean?
Totally, my boyfriend and so many guys around me are feminists.
Well the world is trying to move on from that, since quite a long time before you were born so if you could stop holding back the progress of humans that would be great.
Its about equality now you see so if you aren't backing that horse you are going to lose the race.
Can I ask which country are you from? In America only 30% of people identify as feminists, that says it all.
@Oram52 I'm from Italy and Vietnam but that's besides the point, I mean you don't really have to identify as a feminist to be one, if that makes sense. Like feminism before it got all twisted was simply the concept of wanting equality.
It changed with onset of third wave feminism, so you have pseudo-intellectual stuff like male gaze, male privilege, toxic masculinity, cultural appropriation etc. Its part of leftwing progressive politics.
Identifying as feminism is important if feminism is relevant, if not even half the population support feminism how would feminism be relevant today? That's the point it isn't.
Only about 25% of people label themselves as feminists in Italy so its unlikely all the guys around you are feminists :)
Such a pity to have such a pretty face and be so annoyingly dumb😂
Also those fillers look odd when she speaks... they move weirdly lmao
Are you anti-feminist?
No I am not anti-feminist but that girl just annoyed me.
I think we need feminism in a lot of places in the world.
And some social structures and stereotypes need to be changed and that also applies to guys.
The demands we have for both genders are changing, I think for the better.
I think we are equal but not similar, yet complimentary.
Hence why both inputs in everything is necessary.
Genuine democracy is certainly necessary I think. Thanks for your input
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Yes. It’s simply equal rights for women. Anything more is adding undo burden onto a word. You want to hate social justice warriors fine. But feminism is simply one thing, equality.
Im going to say yes... hell some men are more sensitive than women.. but I know some women who are manly in one form or another..
Depends on the type of Feminism, there's so many different movements or "schools". But generally speaking, yes.