Do you consider mixed people (black and white parents) to be black?

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Let me be more specific.  I am taking SPECIFICALLY about mixed people who have black and white parents!  So, someone who has a black mom and a white dad, OR a black dad and a white mom. Unless you've been living under a rock, you have probably heard about the Doja Cat situation. Even though she is mixed (black and white), she allegedly does not identify with her black side and was recently caught in white supremacist chat groups online.  I was reading some comments from social media users, and someone said, " my parents are black and white, but I'm not black and I hate when people call me black .  I'm not black. "  There's a lot of mixed people out there who have black and white parents. Actually, here a list -   - further more, Obama was considered the first BLACK president and his mom is white and his father is black.  So, I ask this question.  If a person has black and white parents, do you consider them to be black?

Smoothing · Accepted Answer

@fasgionguy17. I think you will find it very hard to get a straight answer to this question. The most important thing, is how the mixed race person considers themselves.

It is clear that most mixed race people are predominantly considered black and there is a very good reason for that and that reason is embedded in historical events.

Though as time goes by, some mixed race people have begun to identify themselves as mixed prompted by their everyday experiences. Even so the number of mixed race people that consider themselves black overwhelmingly outweighs those that consider themselves mixed.

History, environmental factors and upbringing and also family dynamics play a huge role in how mixed race people choose to indeftify themselves.

As a black man, I am more than likely to refer to any mixed person as black than mixed unless the person themselves corrects me. After being corrected, I usually respect the wishes of the mixed person's sense of identity because I know that is based on their experience and many other factors.

My reason for looking at mixed people as black is very heavily based on history. i. e, in the past, especially during slavery and even a long while after, the white parents of the mixed children used to disown them because they had a black side to them and so the mixed race children were often brought up by their black parents and identified as black. It is only in recent years that their have been changes in the presence of the white or black parent in the lives of the children so the sense identity of the mixed children has started to change because that segregative parenting is dieing.

thomual · Accepted Answer

The truth is they are either both, or neither. If you mix black and white paint together it makes grey!

When I was engaged to an Asian I knew our children would all have hypocampic (Chinese eyes) but I would have told them to be equally proud of their Asian and European lineage, and identify with whichever they felt most inclined toward.

I'm 100%, "white", but i hate the term because I have NOTHING in common with French, Spanish, Italian, or middle eastern caucasian. I refer to my "German and Irish sides".

I have traces of English and Russian, but only because they are closely related to Scottish, Irish, and German heritages.

But those other, "Whites" have almost nothing in common with me other than skin color and prejudice of strangers who can't see the difference.

It's the same for black people except it's difficult to trace one African heritage from another. But Nubian blacks, Jamaican, Ethiopian, Nigerian, and Hatian blacks all have very different cultures, and I assume features.

Anybody who lumps a half white Nubian in with a half Asian Jamaican is horribly ignorant.

Whites have had cultural identities that reach beyond, "White" for hundreds of years, as have Asians. 8ts time we started treating blacks the same way

menina · Accepted Answer

I would say both. They can deny as much as they want, but the truth is that they're not 100% white.
Their hair texture or their facial features will show that they're wrong. They might even have babies who have "black features", even when the baby dad is white. Look at Meghan Markle, she believes she's white but when she was about to get married, British media reminded her that she's not. They even made jokes about her son Archie, her mom, her hair and her skin color.

But, I also have seen mixed people who identify as black. My mother is one of these people. I guess it was because she was raised by my grandmother who was black. Also, my grandfather's family never treated us (me, my mom, dad and sisters) right. He had a sister who once told him that she didn't want his black daughter, with her black husband and black children in her house.
When I first went to college, I used to be friends with a girl who was mixed and also identified as black. She had long curly hair, but she never strengthen it.

Honestly I'm not surprised by the news about Doja Cat. She does blackface in that song "Say So". In this video, it's clear that she's making fun of black people's features and bodies. And lots of people, even some black people like this s***! I hate her! 🤬🤨

Ellie-V · Accepted Answer

No, it promotes the one drop rule. Mixed people are just mixed. That’s it, they have their own lane end of story.
Even though it’s not what you asked, I feel the Doja Cat situation is being blown way over proportion and the black community is too ruthless because they can’t separate their frustrations from case to case.
Yeah, and I’m saying that as a fully black woman, dark skin, 4c hair and all 😂
Sometimes we gotta call ourselves out because the reasoning behind their will to drag her name is kind of ridiculous.
But generally, I think we all as humans lack compassion and empathy by engaging in counterproductive behavior such as “canceling”.

lumos · Answer

I consider them to be mixed. Both black and white. Because that's what they technically are. Even if they could "pass" as white for having a lighter skin tone or "pass" as black for having a darker skin tone. Obviously if I don't know anything about their background I might make a more black and white (ha!) assumption based on the shade of their skin, but I try not do to that because at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter to me.

CHARismatic110 · Answer

It's not about what I consider them, it's what they are. How THEY choose to identify themselves is typically based on how they grew up. A lot of mixed people that don't grow up in 2 parent households with both sides represented equally, tend to lean more to the side that raised them. Which is fine so long as they aren't hating the other part of themselves. Like Doja Clown.

dmgstarfleet · Answer

In US society before and after the civil war-pretty much up until recently-there were classifications based on % of Black ancestry. A Mulatoo was half and half, a Quadroon was 1/4 and an Octoroon was 1/8 Black ancestry. Octoroons were so light skinned as to be physically indistinguishable from whites. Brothels, such as in New Orleans' Storeyville District advertised they had "Octoroons". Despite their skin tone these women still were subject to the legal disabilities of the era. You were black if you had as little as 1/32 black ancestry. The Nazis used these classifications to determine how much much Jewish blood would classify you as Jewish.

Drowningkingfish · Answer

It's not just skin colour, facial features are secondary definer of being black or white. Really it's a paradoxical question since a person who 99% white and only 1% is not truly considered white. Vise versa.

Its more about the subjective percentage threshold for being which race over the other as a decider on whenever that person is black or white. Sometimes mixed race can be a 25 by 75 split rather than a 50, 50 cut. So I'd consider the 99% to 1% difference of white and black the mix race section rather than either black or white (literally) +. For simplicity sake.

Kaneki05 · Answer

Well black and white is just what we call the color of there skin. It's not really something we have to identify with.

It's like idiots who say there black when there white cause they feel black. That's not a thing... there is no hormones nor thoughts that make you feel black or white. It's just the color of your skin. So i would say Obama is black cause his skin clearly is black. Where as dojo ain't black she's just another color as in light brown. But saying brown is offensive somehow which i don't really get myself but if it is offensive to say she is brown we just have to call her mix. Shrugs.

i cannot call someone white when there skin is black simple as that really. It's like saying your eyes are different color to your mother but i am gonna call them eyes the same color just cause well one of your parents had that color which you don't have.

hellionthesagereborn · Answer

Well, doing some very basic digging and I can say that I have seen absolutely nothing that suggests she is racist towards anyone. People make the claim but they make that claim for any one and every one (it gets them attention, hurts the people they want to hurt and requires no real effort on their part (according to them black conservatives like Candace owens is a white supremacist).

As for what I consider them, I consider them mix however I will identify them as what ever they seem to be (because I don't go up to every person I see and ask for their ethnic background). Personally I don't care because I don't see it as an issue or a discussion that has any real merit (because again, I don't care), but otherwise I do identify them as what they appear to be until informed otherwise.

Anonymous · Answer

Well depends on their skin color. If they’re black colored, then they’re back regardless of where they’re from, if they’re white, then they’re white.
black is a color not a nationality..

for example there are black Mexicans and white Mexicans a white mexican can say they are not brown but they’re still mexican.. because brown is not a nationality it’s a color.
I am white but I am mexican. I have white skin and light hair and light eyes.. I was born in USA but my parents are mexican. My color is white but I am mexican. I won’t say I’m brown because clearly I’m pale as snow.
so if the person has white skin, then they are white even if the parents are black or whatever color.
being racist is a whole other thing.

btbc92 · Answer

I honestly think it's not anyone's business what they call or associate as. There is no such thing as race anyway. Anybody who has to constantly dispute what somebody says about it needs to fund something more productive to do. If she says she's not black, then she's not. Who cares? I don't. As long as she s happy, then that's what really matters. I have plenty in my family and not once have I thought of them different. The world is screwed up.

Flower7 · Answer

I do find it very strange when mixed people are racist toward one of the races that they are half of, such as the situation you mentioned with Doja Cat. I don't consider mixed people to be black. But I don't consider them to be white either. To me, mixed seems to actually be a separate race. I never did understand why Obama was considered to be the first black president when he was only half black. I felt like that wasn't fully a true statement.

Anonymous · Answer

I used to. But a lot of them don't respect black culture or always said they don't ft in. Or black people picked on me because im lightskin and pretty.

I'm like ok you little MUTT. You wanna play that game. Your only born because your daddy hates him self and wants a white woman so he can breed put his pain and skin tone. So he can be uncle ruckus and say im not like other blacks. Same with these Black females like can dance Owens.

Black people be nothing nice to the Half breed mutts. From drake cardi b or Doja all of them have disgraced black culture. But wanna profit from. it

Reaperbot666 · Answer

it's like adding chocolate syrup to milk. the more you add the darker the milk gets. however you'll need to add a bunch of milk again. to be able to get it back to it's original color.

same with most types of syrup really. over time the milk will change color to reflex the syrup you use.

CubsterShura · Answer

As much as it's easy to just say I'd consider them all mixed and nothing more than that, it's actually more complicated. Your upbringing as well as your phenotype can influence if you tend to identify with one race more than the other if you're mixed, for most people, they tend to identify with their father's side more. So it makes sense Obama was known as black even though he was mixed, because his father was black.

pajamasam · Answer

I would guess since they have a little of both its up to them personally to decide what they identify as, however I see them as both. They have a unique window into both white and black culture and therefore are both. I dont feel that one overpowers the other. They are a league all their own because the combo of those two culture group is a blend that is unique only to them.

100Bandz · Answer

I call mixed women "splash sistas" or "Karens with a drop of chocolate". Lol I just call them mixed, because that's what they are. I know one mixed girl in college who identified as black only because her white father abandoned her, but for the most part I know mixed people want to be considered mixed.
PS: Fuck Doja Cat and her phony apology.

RolandCuthbert · Answer

Uhm. . wouldn't that depend on the "Mixed" person?  Like I don't know many Dominicans who claim they are "Black" or even African. They claim to be mixed race and descended from European cultures.

AllThatSweetJazz · Answer

I’m mixed. 50/50 white and black (PNG). But my skin is white and my features aren’t obviously png I think. People never seem to look at me differently or ask where I’m from or anything like that. Maybe they don’t notice, maybe they don’t care to ask, but it just never comes up and I have to remember myself sometimes. I generally just lump myself in with white people. I mostly just use it as a set up for a joke or to deflect sjw race nonsense.

Desconhecida · Answer

That's something I dont understand and I think I never will. Why should this be so important to know since everyone in the world is mixed somehow. Just do a genetic test and you may find out even native American genes you had no idea you had.
I imagine that must be a very deep issue especially in places where the division of "races" are more open.

lailison · Answer

I consider them to be mixed but then again I know many half whites half blacks say their black just because it's easier to do so than saying their mixed because a lot of black people tend to feel like their trying to be pretentious when mixed people say their mixed. This isn't 100% fact, it's just based off of what I've been told.

WhistleForTheChoir · Answer

Sure. I consider them to be black and white. "Black" and "white" are not genetic terms, they refer to cultural experiences and cultural labeling. It's very possible that a mixed race person could have experiences associated with each label.

It's worth noting that a lot of the experiences these people have will depend on their appearance. Some mixed people can "pass" as white, others take more after their black side.

I_Am_Sazerac · Answer

Honestly I dont give a crap. Humans are human and that's all that matters to me. I understand wanting to identify the with a culture for self discovery as I recently discovered my Irish heritage, but honestly i see it as honor your heritage and take pride in where you came from but remember, we all bleed red.

Thatoneguy777 · Answer

I don’t, but most people do.

If their skin is dark enough and they have curly hair, they are considered black.

However sometimes half black half white people have straight hair and skin of a white person, so you couldn’t tell and they are usually perceived as white.

angryllama · Answer

If I give someone a soda with cheese in it- is it just a soda or is it a Soda With Cheese. A mixed person is BOTH no matter how they choose slice, you can’t separate your helixes just bc you don’t acknowledge it.

momothemadman2 · Answer

in US law they are i think. we get treated as if we are black by white people. the question 'where are you from... ORIGINALLY?' gets old quick and all you mixed people out there feel my pain lol (uk perspective of course). if we were raised by white people though and our dad was a peice of shit then black people think were 'like bountys' black on the outside and white on the in lol we're in a sort of ethnicity limbo. But i dont focus on that

Madhatter920 · Answer

Personally, I consider you to be what you identify as, in that situation. If you say you're white, you're white. If you say you're black, you're black. It doesn't really matter and both are true.

TheDongMonologues · Answer

Black and white are too broad. How does she talk? What's her favorite music? Does she have legit entrepreneurial skills of her own? What sort of culture would she like to see in the future?

sang2020 · Answer

I do.  Joe Biden won't consider them black unless they vote for him lolz

Brainsbeforebeauty · Answer

I consider them to be half white/half black. Same as I'm not just Irish or just German, I'm both! But mostly I just consider them to be "people"

Red_Dragon · Answer

Depends on how they want to identify themselves. I used to bang a chick who was part white, part black, and part Puerto Rican.

BlacqueSupaMane · Answer

Okay so there are a few ways to look at it. If you mix black with any other color, you get black as the dominateering color.

Society will say that you're black.

I say you are what you call yourself and fuck what society says.

UNOTHEONE · Answer

As a biracial person, I find it’s society that already places me in the category they’ve decided based upon looks and stereotypes.

cute_short_nerd · Answer

Get your head outta yo ass and mind ya business. Your momma shoulda raised you better, and if you didn’t have no momma then you shoulda learned it by observing whoever raised you.

KingdomForAKiss · Answer

Well, on formal census paperwork, it matters for demographic studies. Otherwise, it doesn't really matter whatsoever. If she doesn't want to acknowledge that side of her genetics, that's up to her.

TheLittleInnocent · Answer

It doesn't matter what anyone thinks its up to them... if they wanna go with black, sure if they don't, sure and vice versa

Aislin9 · Answer

No, I consider them to be a person. I don't care about what people look like, it doesn't make a difference to me one way or another.

saltydaxmok_tANKer · Answer

No. I consider them as mixed bcs they are mixed lmfao unless if 'white' genetics are the main human genetic and the others are just side dishes then maybe- 🤡

RydiaMagnifique · Answer

No. I consider them people. My nephew is biracial. My sister is caucasian and his father is African. Race doesn't matter to me. Racism does.

Boredguy400 · Answer

I see them as mixed. Of course there's some people that look more black or more white and I can confusingly assume they are one or the other unless they choose to clarify it.

Walrus_au · Answer

I consider them humans. I don't care if they are black or white.

If they are all anti-one side or the other then I consider them racist. but they are still humans, regardless of which 'side' they identify as.

Laprass · Answer

I do not see why i should call the either i prefer not to judge Them on the color of their skin mixed or not but their character values and the person, i do not think it is my place to choose and the choice does not matter much to me

purplepoppy · Answer

Obama looks black so he is black. If it's unclear then I'd go by whether they act black or white

Secret6620 · Answer

I consider them to be mixed... You don't cancel out a part of your ancestry...

DamnSam · Answer

Black is more than just a skin colour... its so much more Culture, language, fashion style, walking style, sport style, music taste, food taste, history... and probably many more

TacosRAwesome · Answer

If I actually know them I'd consider them as mixed because I know what they are but if I see them in the street and try to guess I might be wrong in my guess.

David_Kek · Answer

I view them as "mixed", on the bases I hate every racial group equally. One of my dark jokes is "I don't think I'd wanna be black either, just look at all the prejudice".

EnglundUberAlles · Answer

I think they can identify how they want. I've always considered Megan Markle white and Mariah Carey black but that is just my perception. I don't really GAF what Doja Cat does online. I think even GaG is a bit sketchy.

Orange_bb · Answer

Yes they are mixed but generally named as black people like beyonce

SuccessfulHornDog · Answer

I think that the mixed race person conveys who they are and that can impact how others perceive them. If they identify with a certain group more it can impact our view of them

Ianto · Answer

I'm in no way qualified, personally to comment. My suggestion would be that anybody manifesting enough visible evidence to experience discrimination could reasonably consider themselves black.

leahzrc · Answer

people who are part black are part black so they have enough black in them to be black

MountAverage · Answer

They're mixed. No need to label them either or. But the fact that most people usually label mixed people as the non-white race, is quite telling.

BlessedDaddy · Answer

I don't know, do they look black?  It's up to the individual, not me. I use the term Hybrid.

lucas262 · Answer

Im mixes no one would mistake me for a black guy. Pretty sure i have 18% Nigerian which was a shocker since i thot i had Arab in me.

smb930 · Answer

Isn't Obama half black and white? He was referred to as the first black president (even though it was technically Bill Clinton 🤣.)

FýrdracaDócincel · Answer

Yes because they're always trying to act black. Sue me.

Wizzbang · Answer

I don't really care what they're labelled as... they're so beautiful 🤤

Aakash_Hangargi · Answer

Humans, whack or blite just kidding call them by there name👍

OddBeMe · Answer

I don’t care about race. How can we possibly know the exact dna %? Even gedmatch sites aren’t that exact.

Guanfei · Answer

I consider them mixed. Because that's what they are. Considering them either black or white is saying one of the parent doesn't matter.

simplelikeme · Answer

They are blackite 🤣🤣🤣 I'm joking people. They are just like you and me... who gives a fuk what color they are. They matter too 😁🤣

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

Well, technically she is biracial, but she will be socially considered black wheather she likes it or not.

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