Because "All Lives Matter" is a reactionary statement made by people that only exist to counter statements regarding issues that affect Black people the most rather than people that genuinely care about "all lives." The truth is that certain issues affect different groups more than others, meaning that it could be a cause of concern for that community. "All Lives Matter" basically tries to convince people that the issue isn't just a cause of concern for that community, but for everybody equally. For example, even though anybody could be a victim of police misconduct, statistics prove that Black people are five-times more likely to be killed by police when they are unarmed. Thus, that is an issue that affects the Black community the most. If this wasn't the case, then the rates would be closer to equal for everybody.
Police officers are also more likely to get off scot-free when they kill Black people unjustly. The public is also more likely to support the cops if the victim is Black and attempt to demonize the victim rather than the cop. The judicial system is also likely to support the cop so he won't get convicted, assuming that he even goes to trial. As a result, people conclude that if you're more likely to kill a Black person when he or she is unarmed, get away with it, and have much of the public support the cop and sully the victim, the Black victim's life must not matter much. To say that "all lives matter" in response to this is simply untrue because, if they did, police wouldn't unjustly kill Black people at much higher rates than other races and the media, police departments, and the public wouldn't demonize the Black victim of police misconduct, something that rarely happens with non-Black victims of police misconduct.
Clearly, "all lives matter" is merely a reactionary statement made by people that are triggered about people claiming that Black people are affected by certain issues more. If "all lives mattered" to them truly, then it wouldn't be a statement that you only hear in response to people saying "Black lives matter." It would be its own political movement that addresses all instances of injustice to all people, not only as a counter to Black people trying to identify and solve the problems that affect them the most. It's not much different to trying to convince Asian people going through racism during COVID-19 that "all racism is bad" despite the fact COVID-19 racism is something that affected their community the most.
It's also not much different to going to a prostate cancer awareness program to tell the hosts that "all diseases matter," not just prostate cancer. Imagine that you're trying to raise awareness for prostate cancer, but some woman comes in and says, "what about breast cancer? All cancer matters!" Sure, both are issues, but one affects one group more than the other. Thus, it shouldn't be wrong to address this and raise awareness. It's not much different to telling LGBT people that "all HIV/AIDS victims matter" when they attempt to raise AIDS awareness in their community because it affects them the most. It's based on a false belief that you're "racist" or prejudiced in some form to say that different groups are more or less affected by different problems and that we all share every problem equally as a human race, but that's just simply untrue. All lives SHOULD matter, but based on statistics and double standards when certain things happen to certain people in certain groups, they clearly don't.
If it's such a huge cause BLM then why do 1000's of black on black murders happen each year not counting deaths from drugs. Where are the protest looting the riots? Where are the black leaders in the house and senate why are they not drafting bills to change things where are these celeb's then. How can people take any of this serious when all that seem to not matter. Makes one wonder if Blacks actually believe BLM
@grif429: Black Lives Matter is a political movement focusing on police misconduct against Black people, which is an issue that needs to be addressed. The main reason Black Lives Matter doesn't protest Black-on-Black crime is because, mostly, Black-on-Black crime already has a solution. If a Black person commits a crime against another Black person, mostly, that person gets arrested, charged, tried, and sentenced, not walking away scot-free. Therefore, justice is usually served. Additionally, protesting isn't the only way to show that their lives matter. In the Black community, Black people raise awareness for Black-on-Black crime through churches, youth programs, community outreach, and "Stop the Violence" campaigns. However, they don't always garner national or even local news. Also, Black crime, per se, has a lot of underlying causes such as poverty, discrimination, and corruption. Another way to oppose Black-on-Black crime is to attack those underlying causes. However, regarding police misconduct, unlike Black-on-Black crime, justice usually isn't served. Mostly, when a cop kills an unarmed Black person that posed no immediate threat, the cops get off scot-free. Because no solution exists, people protest because they want to see change and want the cops to be held accountable. People have attempted to enact legislation for police reform, but to no avail. The best way to solve this issue to enact a bill that would guarantee harsh prison sentences for cops that break the law.
@Tiffany_Taylor_Made how cavalier. The solution to black on black violence is punishment for the perpetrator… well by your reasoning, perhaps the solution to police brutality and murder is to tell the black victims “stop committing crimes so you won’t come into contact with police”
@joesheks: Not quite. By my reasoning, if Black people are punished for committing violence against other Black people, police officers should also be punished for committing unjustified violence towards Black people as well. I believe all people should be held accountable for their actions, including the police. Even if all Black people miraculously stopped committing crimes, that doesn't stop police officers from committing unjustified violence against them, considering that not all police encounters stem from an investigation of a crime.
@Tiffany_Taylor_Made I thought it was Black Lives Matter, not “everyone needs to face consequences.” I’d rather police stop unjustified killings of blacks and also that blacks stop killing people. Yes, everyone should face punishment, it if lives matter, let’s save those lives! Let’s get to the source of the problem
@joesheks: The entire reason for the existence of Black Lives Matter is to address issues of police misconduct towards Black people and the fact that police officers are rarely punished for their misconduct towards Black people. The best way to save the lives of Black people by the hand of police is to punish police officers harshly for their unjustified killings towards Black people. If cops know they would face hefty punishments, such as full payments of their pensions to victims and life-term prison sentences, it may deter their actions in the future. Murder is unlikely to stop, no matter the race of the perpetrator because it's unrealistic to prevent people from completely breaking the law. However, all people should be punished for breaking the law. Black people are already held accountable and punished at much higher rates than other races, but the police are rarely punished for their violations and crimes. If we stop giving police special treatment regarding the legal system simply because they're cops, we can see a sharp decline in police misconduct.
@Tiffany_Taylor_Made the reason blacks are punished more is because they commit more crimes and have more interactions with police. Asians actually have a lower crime rate than whites so racism is not the problem. But when cops (black and white) see black people committing the same stupid crimes day in and day out, they NATURALLY ARE MORE ON EDGE AROUND BLACK folks. Until we can a royally put all these facts on the table (instead of labeling someone as racist) we can never make any real progress
Black people do not commit more crimes and have more interactions with police. White people, by far, commit the most crimes in America and get punished more than the others. Black people simply have higher *rates* of committing *certain* crimes, such as murder and robbery, because they're only 13% of the population. Racial bias also exists in the criminal justice system, which results in Black people getting heftier punishments and White people often receiving lighter sentences. Police officers should be on edge regardless because of the nature of their job. If a police officer is within the mindset that he or she must react violently towards an unarmed Black person simply because Black people have higher violent crime rates, then such a cop is racially profiling, which is a form of racial bias, and shouldn't be in law enforcement.
Not every (Black) poice interaction is violent, Black people have extremely low rates of committing crimes against police, and the majority of Black unarmed victims of police killings posed no immediate to the officers. In fact, according to the studies, White people are more likely to react violently towards police than any other race. Either way, it doesn't matter. The entire point that I'm making is that if Black people are to be held accountable for their crimes, the police should also be held accountable for their crimes. If a cop violates the law or code of conduct, do you believe that he or she should be punished for it in the same way a Black person would be punished for breaking the law? For us to make real progress, people should stop attempting to justify racial profiling and actually hold police officers accountable when they do wrong. Cops are not above the law.
@Tiffany_Taylor_Made blacks commit more absolute murders robberies and rapes — in fact the majority! Their rates are higher than whites in the other crimes in virtually every category — this is amazing that 13% (actually more like 6% because black men are the perpetrators) creates such havoc
@joesheks: The claim that Black people commit more rapes is actually false. Regarding the 16,599 rape arrests in 2019, White people were arrested for 11,588 rapes, which is about 70% of all rapes, compared to 4,427 arrests for Black people, which is about 26% of all rapes. Thus, White people, by far, commit the vast majority of rapes. The claim that the crime rates are higher than Whites in virtually every other category is also false. Of the 10,085,210 arrests in 2019, (some data is missing), 7,014,550 were White. Regarding Whites, despite being around 60% of the population, Whites were arrested for 61.7% of aggravated assaults, 68.2% of burglaries, 66.3% of larcenies, 67.5% of motor vehicle thefts, 70.7% of arson, 64.7% of simple assault, 67% of forgery, 65.8% of fraud, 60.5% of embezzlement, 61.4% of possession of stolen property, 68.4% of vandalism, 71.1% of drug abuse offenses, 65.8% of domestic offenses, 81.4% of DUIs, 77.6% of liquor offenses, 75.5% for public drunkenness, and 63.5% for disorderly conduct. As for Black men supposedly "creating such havoc," I disagree. Even if Black men have high crime rates in some categories (mostly violent crime such as murder and robbery), the amount of violent crime that Black men commit relative to their population size is small. Either way, none of this justifies police killing unarmed Black people that posed no immediate threat and escaping justice. I don't see why it's so hard to just punish a cop for doing wrong. www.ojjdp.gov/ojstatbb/crime/ucr.asp?table_in=2 ucr.fbi.gov/.../table-43
@Tiffany_Taylor_Made don’t you love how Hispanics are considered “white” when that’s truly not the case. Whites are roughly 62% of the population and have lower crime rates … I would love to explore the rape issue a bit further with regard to who the perpetrator is.
@joesheks: “Hispanic” is treated as an ethnicity rather than a race regarding population statistics in America, which can be included with White, Black, or any other race that includes people from countries and/or cultures with Spanish speaking origins. When compiling statistics, such data often separates Hispanic with “non-Hispanic.” Regarding White people, when White Hispanics are included, Whites comprise about 70% of the population, but 60% of the population when considered “non-Hispanic.” With that, crime statistics are not much different whether Hispanics are included. Thus, White people still commit the vast majority of the crime in America no matter their ethnicity. By the way, judging from your post history, you often make derogatory posts about Black people, which definitely makes you a racist. It’s pretty clear that your sole purpose of posting on this site is to troll, which is really sad and pathetic.
Okay im going to be very open and honest right now. I have NO reason to discriminate against black people at all. They are equal to whites, mexicans, Asians, russians, like shit. I understand that what the police did to Geroge Floyd is HORRIBLE and there was NO reason or excuse for it. And im not standing up for that one police officer who did what he did. But to commit all of these crimes is doing nothing. I understand you want to prove a point to the government and citizens that black lives matter, because they do. But by destroying others lives, you really think your helping? Protesting is amazing. you're stabding up for what u believe in. But setting things on fire, robbing stores, killing people. Now what im about to say next may get me hate. Now im not saying i BELIEVE in thesr stereotypes but in a "stereotypical world" black people would always be stealing or ribbing or killing people. Right? Because thats what socuety has brought upon everyone. But by trying to prove your point that y'all are good people, setting things on fire and robbing aren't the way to do it.. I understand that what happened a long time ago was EXTREMELY wrong. But we can't change it. Most of history is bad. But without everything that has happened, look how we have developed. You can not blame all of us whites today for what happened between our ancestors.
@Flaquita yea they have to blame whites because otherwise there is no politically correct answer to their numerous failings — the truth is that our ancestors should have never brought them here — big mistake - they imported a people that were thousands of years behind civilization and they still struggle to live under the rules and customs of our civilization -/ that is not white privilege — it’s black disadvantage — how else do you explain why blacks generally fail in every country they populate but Asian boat people come here and flourish? Oh yeah, that white privilege again. If people could freely speak, they’d call it for what it is — bullish¡+
First the argument for BLM, it's been said by many supporters that of course all lives matter but for all lives to matter then black lives must matter too, in my view that's fair enough.
The problem comes when that argument is made and some are allowed to destroy homes, businesses in the name of the movement, when ridiculous ideas are out forward as a way of dealing with the past. When some who were killed are later shown to have been less than the Saint they were portrayed to be at the time.
Then there are a few other issues to unpack, yes blacks in the USA have it hard, truth is though so do whites.
Of course we can argue about privilege but frankly that's just bullshit, white people as a racial group are the worst performing of all racial groups, underperforming in all areas of society when you factor in numbers. Asians and Indians are the best performing groups.
White people are actually only slightly less likely to be killed by police officers or badly treated as black people. Again according to the figures.
Another problem is biased media, media that wants to stir up controversy, while I agree what the police did to that man is murder, I disagree that he was innocent, he was trying to pass off a forged note and high on meth at the time.
There is more than just this set of issues to deal with though which is that generally as a society American people have been sliding backwards in terms of critical thinking for years. Not five minutes before writing this opinion I watched a woman being interviewed quoting stats and saying that her figures came from the American statistical bureau, when the interviewer said a few other figures to her and said that his figures came from the same agency her best response was to say she didn't trust that agency anyway.
So here's where it all falls apart then, why is it ok to trust a body when they say something you like but sent them when they don't, and it's because of a lack of critical thinking ability.
That's why people get triggered, truthfully if critical thinking were better taught the. I doubt that BLM would even exist. If they did the last thing they would be doing is protesting and they'd be working with the police to take best practices of other police forces from around the world and helping to shape a national standard of training for all police. Then again murdering police and burning houses and businesses is far more the actual path, so you'll have to forgive me for not giving two shits because they don't get any support from me
It seems that being an influencer or receiving ratings often matters more to a person or group than the actual merits of an argument. This is not to say the BLM movement does not have its merits. From my perspective as a poor "white" guy whos family was never part of slavery, other than possibly being one (history is fuzzy for my ancestry), this country has massive divisiveness issues, as well as an economy that absolutely keeps the working class nailed down, and sets them up to fail.
Offset programs are implemented to stop so-called racism (Melanism I call it as humans are all one race, but with minor skin and genetic differences). We have EEOC and affirmative action that guarantees some people with darker skin will receive jobs. Sometimes this prevents the business from getting the best candidate, and sometimes the "white guy" is about to become homeless without that job, and is very likely in the same boat as most other people.
What I've seen in this country is the rich getting richer, and poor getting poorer, and their education a travesty of whatnot should be. I see it as a wholly national sociopolitical issues, and that this "race war", while systemic due to how the system functions, affects everyone, including the so-called privileged, but as long as we fight amongst ourselves, we will not be free from the oppression that is the institution of the USA.
God cursed the African nation for its immorality and its disobiedeince. The curse was slavery. Blacks sold other blacks into slavery for profit. Whites in American accualy took profits of theyre own taking advantage of the cursed peoples to another level. In fact , most of the accual slave owners were white women. To mention ALL LIVES MATTER isn't moranic or politically correct , but its definitly BIBLICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY CORRECT.
MzAsh, it's because of the toxic notion that all white people will or are privileged, using terms such as "white privilege" to discredit white experiences with racism or belittle them.
All Lives Matter, in my opinion, and in my beliefs, is a cry for BLM to include everyone to stop racism as a general issue rather than keep race a relevant thing and exclude everyone else, keeping onto the childish notion that only the black community faces racism.
Yes, in YOUR society, not mine. While more urgent matters need more urgent caring to, that does not give people the right to try and discredit others in an attempt to make theirs the only problem that matters, and that's where BLM falls short.
Their idea of "white privilege" does not take into the societal conditions of the local white communities in the area, simply slapping on a label of privilege to anyone who is white, and that's what makes it toxic.
While I won't deny systemic racism, I believe that it's been more fearmongered than it actually is. Take George Floyd's killing for example.. While the mainstream idea for his death his racial violence, there's no actual evidence to support this claim, and while there's no evidence that it was sheer incompetence, it is the much more plausible answer.
MzAsh, my solution to end racism would be to make a unified movement with all races. To begin the path of equality is to make race a non-existent issue among the mainstream. There should be no gatekeeping, no discrediting, and no belittling based on race.
@waramongus 15X worse? That's a bit of an overstatement, but I can agree. The Berber white slave trade was about a 5th of the Atlantic trade, but it is still present as it did enslave all races.
Your statement about how racism against blacks is the most violent is objectively wrong, at least in the US. It's very well documented that there are both numerically and proportionately much more black on white assaults and murders than the other way around, and the overwhelming majority of black murder and assault victims are attacked by other blacks. You're coming across as a deranged idiot right now, and I implore you to educate yourself with better sources.
@SwordShield In this case it's okay, actually because he's being racist against black people, it's safe to assume he's white. I'm not being racist to white people, however, because I'm also white lol
BCA6010 ... What you are undoutably speaking of is not racism but a selective few white people who can't keep theyre little helpless mouth shut and get theyre little ass beat tf up.
Really? The Jews in ww2? And Christian slaves under Muslim nasters white slavery between 1500 and 1800 the list goes on so before you start howling from your ivory tower do your homework
@sang2020 :57 It isn't a democratic (or even partisan) policy that you have to go to school in the district that you live in and even if they could attend a different school district, that doesn't mean that they could access it because many people in these neighborhoods don't have ready means of transport. They could rely on public transport but that would likely require they spend even more time in transit; time that could be spent on extracurricular activities to better their resume (you know what they say; time is money). And you might as well use those vouchers to increase the funds for the public schools in poor neighborhoods. 2:45 Individual decision making can't by definition explain disparity between racial groups any more than 1 pair of dice can have a mean number of 4 after 1000000 rolls. 4:10 The other variables he mentioned that were controlled for such as financial income in determining who gets loans are different between races because of past racist policies. See the problem? People have low income because of racist policies in the past so even when those are removed, it's still harder for them to get loans so even when the policy is repealed, the impact remains because of a feedback loop. @5:10 They lower the standards because because of the school system present in most African American neighborhoods (despite Bens' fallacious claim that they could go to school in another district but are blocked by democrats) African Americans have to work harder to get a high enough GPA to get into college.
5:40 This is a straw-man; the argument is that you are more likely to be rich if your parents are rich, not that you can't get rich if your parents are poor. 6:30 it would suggest that there are other factors at play but it would also suggest that racism is one of those factors. 6:35 Inheriting money isn't the only way that having a rich family can help you get rich. You have easier access to loans and to make it big you need to take a risk and you're more likely to take a risk if you have something to fall back on like a well to dob (but not necessarily wealthy) family. 7:10 As a side note there is more income mobility with a stronger social safety net: 9:10 No one's claiming there aren't other factors involved, the point is Systemic racism is one. Bens' just deflecting now.
9:00 But most still will live in those areas. Again the argument for systemic racism is that it makes it more difficult for African Americans to be successful, not that it makes it impossible. 9:35 They're not using implicit bias computer tests; Ben's deflecting again. 10:30 It's a lot easier to tell if someone is African American by a black sounding first name than a last name -_- 12:00 Except they used identical resumes in the previous study. 13:00 Refer back to my previous dice example for blaming it on individual choice.
14:00 The video claimed it's a contributing factor, not the only won. Seriously, this straw-man wouldn't burn if you doused it in gasoline. 14:45 If you can't identify the root of a problem, good luck solving it. 15:30, no one is talking about just pouring money into the school, of course it will come with some restructuring. 16:15 They're not blaming every problem on racist policies, they're blaming racial disparity on them. And failed policies? You mean like charter schools and private prisons (which Democrats opposed)? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HF8iR_GB8A
@Ad_Quid_Orator it's common knowledge that if you graduate high school, major in something useful, don't have kids before marriage, don't commit crimes you won't be poor.
If you make good choices, like focusing on school, majoring in a good/useful subject, pursuing something meaningful like medicine, you most likely won't be poor.
@sang2020 And it's not as well known that those choices are going to keep you out of chronic poverty but won't guarantee you success and certainly won't solve racial disparity but it's true none the less. But it is also common knowledge that an educational system that can better support its' students will get more of them into college and thus earn a higher income; thanks for backing my case :)
@Ad_Quid_Orator in america it's personal choice that determines your outcome. Plenty of people go through tough life and adversity and still manage to become lawyers/doctors etc. Some people are just mentally and emotionally weak and don't make right choices. Other people are mentally strong (which really is choice), have good discipline (choice) and focus (choice) and make good choices. Its not race, but choices.
Schools actually do have policies that discriminate against white and Asians- affirmative action. There are documented cases where an Asian kid with higher scores were turned away while blacks with lower scores were accepted.
In all, systematic racism doesn't exist. Unequal wealth is not systematic racism. Systematic racism would be issues such as institutions (schools etc) and policy. Systematic racism existed before such as Jim Crow and slavery. Not anymore. Institutions do not have such policies anymore. Individual choice determine outcome. For example, Michelle Obama used to commute 3 hours to go to a good school and she graduated top of her class (good choice). She went to a good school, did well and went to law school (all choices). I read another story about a former criminal and high school. dropout that turned her life around and became a successful lawyer.
Inequality isn't racism. The fact that someone had more challenges isn't racism. Your choices determine success. Period.
@Jack9949 Racicm an act of thinking you're superior or above another person because of their skin/heritage. You cockblock/gatekeep on anyone who isn't your race essentially, sometimes even against your own race.
Also, the point behind "All Lives Matter" is that people are annoyed with my culture asking for the bs to stop. If racism isn't systemic, then explain why the projects exist? Slave towns that were left untouched by the police and federal government, except to distribute crack and to haul off drug dealers. Slums are a fucking mess and a positive feedback loop, and people on the outside think you can just "work your way out" without becoming a target by the desperate community. That is systemic racism in action. No white people living in the Wards down south.
I would say you have not been taught real history only this woke history shit in school, million and millions of people have been used as slaves black and white and every color under the sun. . Even today black Africans are being sold by black and Arab slave traders as well as children of every color kidnapped from around the world. So not forced into slavery is moot1
you are completely wrong every race on earth has been slaves, beaten, tortured, and killed. Blacks still sell slaves in Africa to this day. have you ever been a slave know anyone that has? Learn history before you make stupid comments.
It's like being in an emergency room and the nurse tells you "Everyone is sick have a seat" BUT you are bleeding and about to die. You would definitely get upset that the nurse just totally disregard your situation and lumped you with the other patients who are not in a serious or critical condition.
True, "All Lives Matter" But, that's the point. If all lives matter there should be fair justice for all lives.
People are quick to judge and not empathize. If you walk in someone's shoes for a day or week, you would understand.
If you look at history of how people have been treated by law enforcement and the judiciary system, you would understand.
And, not all are criminals experiencing police brutality, injustice and incompetence. African Americans who follow the law and well educated experience such unfairness as well.
One can wrap their mind around it because you don't have to live the life that others are subject to the day they are born.
Mhm, but not quite. How would you feel if the hospital had a BUNCH of room, but only treated one person because they were in critical condition? Why, with more than about 100 staff could they not take care of other people's problems as well?
That's my point, my friend. That's all I'm saying "fairness for all" not for some or because you use your power to treat people inhumane, unfair justice, etc.
What I don't like is the media also always show the African American community in these situations... White, brown and others experience the same inhumane and unjustice. But, it is rarely rare you see this in the media.
The media is always casting the African American community in the media to create division amongst people.
If "All Lives Matter" show everyone's dissatisfaction with the police and judiciary system.
Blind. People in America is so gullible.
Let me say this... I actually saw on a show a Caucasian female being brutally attacked by an officer. No one showed that on the news. Thank God a bank camera caught it on tape.
Could just as much ask why 'all lives matter' activists get triggered when black lives matter is brought up.
We are at a dinner party, and everyone but you gets desert. you say "Hey, where's my desert? My desert matters." I turn to you and say, "All our deserts matter."
Black lives matter is not an attempt to elevate one group above the others, it is drawing attention to the fact that one group has been ignored, left out and oppressed while others have not had the same experience. You may well not have owned a slave, or sent a black person to the back of the bus or to the other water fountain, or personally oppressed them. But you HAVE benefited from a society built on their blood. The society owes a debt, that begins by acknowledging it.
For the past several years, we've been hammered by social groups that we should be inclusive of ALL people. OK, so now when we say something inclusive, like "All lives matter", somehow that's wrong?
The BLM group is an extremely selfish organization whose goals are to invoke Socialism on everything they touch. They CLAIM it's about systemic racism, but that's FAR from the truth. Why? Because so many of the people pushing BLM have made, and still do make, extremely racist comments.
The REAL truth is no matter how much you try, you will NEVER remove racism - ever! And... EVERY race on this planet harbors a group of people who ARE some of the most racist people you can imagine! What's worse though is that it seems EVERYTHING is pointed as racist. The sky is blue - you can't say that, its racist! That car is a Ford - you can't say that, it's racist!
Grow up and ditch the garbage of BLM, because ALL of our lives matter!
@SwordShield - you can't and you won't. There will ALWAYS be some in EVERY race who hate some other race. Asians will hate blacks. Whites will hate Indians. Indians will hate Africans, and so on. The best you can do, is simply do your best to make it as minimal as possible.
That thinking is completely counter-intuitive. Anything can be phased out with time, maybe a few centuries.. We must look to the future and not the past.
@SwordShield - Let's compare another bad habit, littering. When I was a kid, litter was everywhere. You couldn't drive on the highway and not see it. Then a government campaign was started to stop people from doing that. They had a commercial with an American Indian standing along a highway with litter and a tear coming down his face. They had signs - "No Littering". Then they decided to fine people for littering. Over the past 50 years, all this has helped, yet people still do that. I've been to the beaches on the Florida panhandle where there are crystal clean in the morning. By 6:00 in the afternoon, there are beer cans, paper trash, kids beach toys, a couple towels, paper cups some flip-flops, and even glass bottles lying all over the beach. There are also multiple trash barrels all along the beach entrance where this trash can be dropped. There are signs everywhere listing a fine for littering. Yet people still do that. The hotels located on the beach have to pay for a crew each night to clean up after these idiots. And that's just those beaches. How many highway exits have you stopped at and look down and see cigarette butts lying everywhere? Protesters have their protests on the Washington DC mall and afterward, the city's Park Service has to hire a hundred or more people to clean up their mess. I've been there several times and have seen the signs about no littering.
So no. There will ALWAYS be racists among EVERY race of people. You cannot eliminate that. Reduce it, yes, but never eliminate it. The same with poverty. There will ALWAYS be poor people. Most, by their own making, and others through circumstances outside their control.
Always? Even through centuries? You're sounding like a nihilist. Littering is done because people are lazy, racism has different motivations. While racism is an unneeded idea, there will always be littering since there will always be lazy people.
@SwordShield - ... And racism comes from what? People misunderstand each other. They have bad experiences with others from a different race. They watch media that presents one perspective of a different race, and so on.
We're not born with racism, nor are we born with laziness. It comes with our experiences AND our own personal choices. Those are two things well out of the control of anyone else, BUT the individual.
When I said ALWAYS, I meant it. Someone ALWAYS will be racist against someone else. In fact one of the most racist individuals I've watched is Samuel L. Jackson. That jerk has made some hideous comments about white people, yet he's given a pass because he's black. Blacks are allowed to make all the shitty racist comments because some asshole media type made the statement that minorities cannot be racist. Bullshit! So now the media completely ignores those racist statements from blacks and Latinos but can't print them fast enough when white people make them. Like I said, EVERY race has a group within them that are racist. You're never getting rid of it. The best you can do is call it out when it happens, REGARDLESS of which race does it, including your own.
“You sayin’ All Lives Matter is a protest to my protest, what kinda shit is that?” -Joyner Lucas
The real question is: why are people so uncomfortable with just acknowledging that black lives matter (the overall sentiment, not necessarily the participants that comprise BLM) without having to counter it, or have to say it with some sort of add-on, or just make it about white people in some way? Literally all that’s being asked of you is to basically say that you give a shit about the treatment of black folks, and that you either understand the prejudicial treatment they face, or are willing to listen and accept what they tell you about THEIR experiences, and not just dismissing it and being like “nahhhh, that’s not your experience...” What is so difficult about that? I don’t think these are liberal sentiments I hold, I’m apolitical, it’s just about not being an asshole and having some fucking awareness.
Cause idiots? And it should just be basic human rights matter cause we are all human no matter the race.
"Black lives matter" so only black lives have had racism towards and human rights taken away from "well no" okay so don't just call it black lives matter cause that makes it sound like only black have been treated bad. And no don't say "black lives matter stands for all" cause it legit just say's "black" don't exclude your own race into a statement to stand for something that means all races.
imagine if someone said "all white lives matter" but meant that as all races. Smh it don't work.
And no it don't distract from the main issue, cause the issue is peoples rights are stepped on for many reasons and it needs to be stopped. And it's not just black people who gets there's stepped on due to racism.
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It's not that hard to figure out. There are a lot of excuses (surprise, right?) but it means exactly what you think it means. They don't care about anyone else's lives.
Deeper than that, they don't even really care about black lives. They care about capitalizing on black deaths. And of course, they use shaming tactics constantly, so after pushing aside everyone else's importance, they shame others into helping them.
If only the Democrats we elected into power positions, who've been promising to help the black community for decades, had actually followed through with their empty words, we wouldn't be here now.
They get triggered because saying "All Lives Matter" kind of disregards the situation at hand, as black lives are being the most effected by injustice, profiling, and oppression. Yes, all lives matter, but right now we should focus on the black lives that are suffering.
@Jack9949 I agree, sadly there are false narratives being pushed. It makes it really hard to focus on the message itself. But that's a different battle. Mad respect to you for supporting the message.
@Djaay My proposal is based on reparations, 75% separation, and racial negations, profiling, and attacking is made illegal with non-discriminatory consequences. First, reparations. For all of the injustice made over these last 400 years, compensation should be made, where land is given, high position is given, and equal opportunities are given, Second, 75% separation. Because the Black history is different from White history, just as Asian and Hispanic history is different, we should all be taught our history in separate classrooms. And third, racial profiling, racial motives, and injustices/crimes made against someone based on race should be illegal all across the board. The offender should be charged the same, no matter the race. Those are just a few on my list.
@Djaay I'm afraid you haven't studied your history and facts, as my history is completely different than yours. Backstory for the idiot is, my ancestry did not start from your "Christopher Columbus" and instant slavery of black people. My history comes from Egypt, where my people were kings, and queens, and pharaohs who built empires, advanced structures, and proved very intelligent in astronomical, mathematical, and moral studies. But we aren't taught that in your schools, are we? What does your ancestry say about you? Based on your response by my clear and thorough response you are clearly the collective idiot of society who is the epitome of ignorance and miseducation who poisons society by labeling and shaming anything other than your "common" values when different information presents itself. Let me define racist for your dumbass, racist is a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another. So what did I say in my previous response that was racist? Assuming you can read, there is nothing wrong with what I said. Call me what you want but what I SAY is true. If that hurts your feelings, sorry not sorry. Now why don't you read a book or educate yourself about these matters and maybe you could fill the space between your ears. As for me, the highness I am will stand by what I say.
Well numb nut , slavery was straight out of Egypt and was the accual reason for slavery. GOD curse your people for your dark immorality , pegaism and idolatry. Thats where black slavery started and why. Then your people sold theyre own to others for profit. GOD did this to your people and you'all still haven't learned anything yet. You spew abomination to the rest of your people just by your tougue of evil. Get it right if your going to pick a fight.
@Djaay And what book did you get that from? If it was a White author, I am sorry but you have been mislead lol. Unless it was someone who was original there (indegenous) I can rely on anything that your ancestors say, as they have lied to us for years, hence practically everything that Black people have been TAUGHT about themselves. When you can show some real, primary proof, I'll believe you, but as far as I'm concerned, my ancestors are innocent. It seems as though evil and methods like that were created by outside influence. Don't dump your trash on our history. Like I said, I'm completely done debating with the ignorant. Respond when you have some facts, until then kiss my ass.
GOD isn't white is he? And he's from your domain wasn't he? And he buried your city didn't he? Because of your countrys denial of him and the sins you'll committed didn't he? You still deny dont you? Your destiny is designed by you yourself isn't it? Hell is still in buisness and your going there wether you like it or not or beilieve it or not unless you repent. Bye numb nut
@Djaay Ooooooohh I'm shaking. Please, don't blame GOD for history you're not 100% sure of. Until you now the real evil of YOUR ancestors and everything that they were motivated to fuck up, leave my history the hell alone. If you can remember, your ancestors and their journeys to modernize other cultures was their own evil motive. Crusades? Alexander the Great? Pagan Tradition? All wreaked havoc on EVERY OTHER CULTURE. Missions to burn and do away with other cultures' history and influence your own. Satanic approaches flow through your bloodline, and have sadly influenced everyone else. If anyone is going to hell it is you, for not recognizing it and fixing YOUR ancestral streak of evil. GOD was never in that plan now was he? Your ancestors denial of GOD and their motive to create their own destiny is what has us in the hellhole we live in now. Manifest Destiny ever crossed your mind dumbass? Pure example of the motive that runs through your ancestry and bloodline. You truly believe your ancestry was built on being holier than thou? You're a joke and so is everyone with that mindset. Your karma is coming, so you better be prepared. Speaking on GOD's name like that, you should be ashamed of yourself. But you're not are you? You're used to demonizing what is not in your book aren't you? You're used to denying the REAL TRUTH, aren't you? And you're used oppressing what should really be said, aren't you? I refuse to curse your life, as your time is clearly coming. Like I said kiss my ass.
First of all im NOT white like you think i am. Im Samoan from SAMOA. Yea we have our history as well. But you talk high and mighty like your all rugged or something. You know you have to know the truth in order to lie about it , exactly what your performing right now. So keep up with your deception and witchcraft. But that won't work on me like you wished it would. So go ahead and get angry and flatter yourself. Just know this... The evil is spewing out of your mouth right now... the evidence of your creed is right here for evrryone to witness.
@Djaay I think it's funny how all of sudden you want to bring up the fact that you're Samoan, when a second ago it sounded like you were really defensive about White history... smh. I talk high and mighty because I have enough respect and knowledge to KNOW that I am high and mighty. Never did I say that everyone else couldn't be. It's funny how, just like I said earlier, you have tried to demonize everything that I have said, You have to know the truth in order to run away from it as well, don't you? I don't run off of anger I run off of the Truth as you can see. If that hurts your feelings that's too bad. Suck it up. But again, Kiss my ass.
I reminded you of the scriptural judgements that come to those who invite it towards themselfs. Your retoric vindictiveness has no place with me. You heed to your own self rightuosness and bellow in darkness pretending your of some royalty.
@Majesty101 “I have enough respect and knowledge to KNOW that I am high and mighty.” So I’m guessing your the dominant type in BDSM? 😉 Also I know you told the other guy to “kiss my ass” but I honestly would do that for you so it’s really not an insult lol.
@Jack9949 Thank you, someone is getting it lol. I mean, I am dominant when I'm alone, or single lol, but more submissive when someone else is involved, if you know what I mean lol. I'm pretty tough but I do like to be dominated. But in this case not by 59 year old assholes. Although I "kiss my ass", I would never want YOU to lol, you actually seem cool. I like you. As for the other guy he can kiss my entire ass.
Thats ok... they say tbat to JESUS too. Ill offend you any time before ill offend the Lord. But really i think you only wished you were right about your mention. Its hard when truth knocks your teeth out isn't it. Reconize
@Djaay Nope. The "surprise" level is for 30 and under. Frankly, I don't discuss "surprises" with married men either. Maybe your wife will tho... good luck.
@Jack9949 I'm not going to act like we're friends now lol. It didn't happen earlier and it's not going to happen now. I don't switch up lmfao. I'm supposed to be nice now? lol
@Jack9949 You're one of the few that do. Some people don't, some people do, some people like to mess with me to see my reaction, and some just think it's funny and cute. Glad you like it lol.
@Jack9949 Ikr, I need more friends who are more like me. So far, I haven't met a match lol. I need someone on my level, then we can all be bad together lmao.
@Djaay Oh you talk like the white people have no sins. Oh really? Well let me remind you that denying God is a very lower sin than all of your (white people) sins, taking the Indians for slavery, the Hispanic, the blacks, and the Holocaust which was done by white people to the Jews so go read history.
@Djaay 1. Stupid you call your friends, not me. 2. I never said you were white. 3. Stupid you call your friends, not me, if that was not clear in first time...
Thecloud 2 ... Look you go right ahead and be a racist brah. Got the good , bad and the ugly in every race. Secondly , whats up with you mouth... what you feeling lucky today?
@Djaay Me? Yes. But I don't know about your mouth, if it keeps being open I don't know if it will stay there... Oh and stupid you call your friends, not me... In case you did not quite understand...
From pure logic "all lives matter" includes "black lives matter", however in the current situation it shifts the priority too far away from the problems.
Its like saying "sick people need hospitals" or "all people need hospitals", both statements are right but the sick poeple need hospitals NOW and not in general.
What I don't understand is those BLM activists preach this, yet burn down buildings, stores, and ruin lives of all people of all races, then they get heated when someone says All Lives Matter.
@WarAnongUS Because not everyone at a BLM protest is apart of the BLM movement. There was even a cop that was outted for being the first one to start destroying a building in one of the first protests undercover.
Except for when the BLM activists planned a rally at Linn Park downtown Birmingham Alabama and started chanting in the video burn the city down... yeah clearly it wasn’t BLM at all... stop protecting Terrorists
So that one rally dictates a whole group? What about the other peaceful protests like in Michigan and in Philadelphia? Guess they’re terrorist too. And besides, I said not everyone at a protest is apart of BLM. Never said no one in BLM didn’t loot or destroy things, so you can’t blame it all on the group.
All this for a man that stuck a loaded pistol in a pregnant woman’s stomach, what a great outstanding guy. he was an Evil Coward. You don’t reform Evil.
"pregnant woman’s stomach" I still have to see evidence of this. It doesn't excuse a killing, but it would remove the suspicion I have that people are just making stuff up about him.
All lives do matter, but most of the people who say "All Lives Matter" say that only in response to "Black Lives Matter." When someone says "Blue Lives Matter" those people just nod in agreement. They basically dismiss the concerns of people of color. I'm a white guy whose best male friend is from Trinidad and Tobago. His family is wealthy and he REGULARLY get pulled over while driving the speed limit in his expensive cars. Why? It is clearly a case of DWB - driving while black. No other explanation. Whether you all want to admit it or not, there are problems out there and solutions are needed.
What I don’t get is why is the BLM Is cramming their beliefs down the entire American population’s throat when they should be working WITH the police. Like seriously, if you want change, you gotta grab that bull by the horns.
I’d be more inclined to support BLM but I don’t see them doing much to promote sustainable change.
Also, I don’t know if anyone noticed but a few policemen have been killed during the protests. Where is their justice?
@g3taclue THANK YOU FOR POSTING THAT!! Loved your response!! Everything now is BLM, and they forget everyone else!! What about the Asian, and Latino shop owners that were burned and looted, when they had NOTHING TO DO WITH the murder? How are they going to recover? My favorite Chinese food place had to close down with the virus, as they couldn't understand that take-out was still OK! When they were going to open for take-out, the riots started, and so they boarded up!! Now, the Grandma that runs it, says they might not be able to stay open, with so much money they lost!! I can't do much more than go there twice a week, and try to help them, but that isn't nearly enough! Same of so many other places, like theirs!!
Your type aren't brave enough to say what you want to say... but you're not clever enough to see the huge gap in your deception
Obviously brown lives don't matter since you were fine caging children.
Blue lives don't matter since you guys cried and raged about armor-piercing bullets being restricted... hmmmm why? Criminals don't wear armor... but police and the military do
considering your insecurity and disdain for women, looks like Women's lives don't matter either
don't pretend to care just because you're cstill too cowardly to say that only White Male lives matter to you
Cause not every life matters I mean there are murderers rapist looters. Let's get real people some lives matter more than others and some would be better if they were not exist
What I don't understand is those BLM activists preach this, yet burn down buildings, stores, and ruin lives of all people of all races, then they get heated when someone says All Lives Matter. why would you go burn down buildings? and ruin others peoples lives
Right wtf. They ruin the reputation of their black community and they destroy their own town and lives of local store owners that's moronic that store maybe belonged to someone's uncle
"Black lives matter" is not worthy of consideration. They operate under false pretenses and don't actually work to improve black lives in a realistic or pragmatic way because they'd rather protest white people and the silly notion that the police are the US gestapo.
Questions like these make it seem as if they're a legitimate organization making a positive difference in the world.
BLM is a racist black extremist group accusing cops of racism when there is actually no racism. There’s no evidence that racism led to the deaths of Eric garner , Trayvon martin , George flyod And many others
Floyd deserved to die. I know that's mean but who breaks into a house beats nd threatens to kill a pregnant women's baby. I know that's harsh but he was not a good guy.
Grif429 the name of is "implicit bais " and you are right we all have in grained in us. However, it may or may not lead to a person being racist. One may have heard and been talk bad things about a person or group but may find through all encounters that it was not true. A racist is someone that has prejudice and hate for a certain group based on implicit bais and refuses to reevaluate that position no matter what. And by the way, implicit bais is not natural for humans.
George Floyd murder was a hoax and none of us should spend time debating him. The guy in the video looked like a 5'9 and a drug addict. Geroge Floyd was 6'3 a former football and did not do drugs. You then had ANTIFA and BLM members rioting and burning down stores in the urban community.
We need set aside the divisions in this country. We need to show allegiance to the human race and act accordingly. All humans need clean water, clean air, natural freedoms and uncontaminated food. The deep state wants to take that away from us.
@hereandnow00 true i personally never had a problem with someone black in my life person to person. But our opinions on the net sometimes clash like bumper bars.
All lives matter is used to counter BLM and what it stands for. I don't understand why people act like they don't know this. BLM doesn't imply that no one else matters. So why do people keep acting as if it does? And using the "You're racist if you don't support all lives matter" argument is just as stupid as the "You're a fascist if you dont support Antifa". Yeah bro, I do think everyone's life matters and I hate fascism, but I don't support your movement because I think it's fucking stupid.
Saying Black Lives Matter does not imply that other lives don’t matter. But we can’t really say “All lives matter” until black people are treated the same in society and we do something to fix systematic racism.
If you think all lives matter then you should be upset at the treatment of black people in this country.
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Yes all lives matter. But TODAY, black lives are the ones that matter. They are the ones that are currently being affected. The whole movement started to support black lives, to get them justice. (especially for george floyd.) Therefore, saying all lives matter right now, does not allow for the justice the world is trying to achieve right now to happen.
George Floyd was a heartless Evil criminal that places a loaded pistol into a pregnant woman’s stomach, you can’t reform evil. It wasn’t ok for the police to kill him, but I’m not going to sit their and act like he was some type of outstanding guy, he wasn’t.
What I don't understand is those BLM activists preach this, yet burn down buildings, stores, and ruin lives of all people of all races, then they get heated when someone says All Lives Matter. why would you go burn down buildings? and ruin others peoples lives
Listen, WarAmongUs, trying to shame George Floyd will do nothing under the pretenses of his death, which was caused by either the incompetence of police or racial violence. No person's death can be justified under such circumstances.
Emmaky, don't assume that other races don't get racism. Through doing that, you already have a single-minded approach. Why not get a group that had all races united to stop racism? Once we erase the borders of racism, we can work towards being equal.
@SwordShield I understand your point of view. But guess what. I’m a human being too. I know racism isn’t narrowed down against one race. I am a race too! But let’s not forget that back then black lives were used as slaves, they were mistreated. And who cares what kind of person George Floyd was. That isn’t the purpose. He could not breathe and murdered from police brutality, NO human deserves to be murdered, and then the murders at first were never charged! BLM for 2020 was inspired by George Floyd, and all of the other black lives that never received justice. Without it, change would not of happened. Those police officers would not of been charged. Like I said, all lives matter, but TODAY black lives are being affected.
@WarAmongUS "George Floyd was a heartless Evil criminal that places a loaded pistol into a pregnant woman’s stomach, you can’t reform evil. It wasn’t ok for the police to kill him, but I’m not going to sit their and act like he was some type of outstanding guy, he wasn’t."
George Floyd facts that people don't know about include:
• "Floyd's toxicology report showed that he had fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system when he died" and "was known to be positive for COVID-19 on April 3." (KSTP 5 ABC Eyewitness News)*
* "Autopsy report: George Floyd died from cardiopulmonary arrest, was positive for COVID-19" By Charlie Wiese. KSTP 5 ABC Eyewitness News. June 03, 2020. Online at - kstp.com/.../
Back then White lives were used as slaves. We are all affected by racism, let us all be honest to each other. All lives matter because all lives are affected.
I can agree with your point about Floyd, that is definite, but you must understand that the world is not (literally) black and white.
Anyone who says race is a thing that should be taken seriously while preaching for equality is counter-intuitive to their own argument. We must make a united group against racism. Why not start our vision for the future here? Why delay?
@PatKirby And why does this matter? Why does it matter if he was a pornstar or if he did this and that? That's not the main issue. Bringing up stuff to make Floyd's death seem like he deserved it is not really a good argument or a good look. Seriously, don't insult the dead.
We don’t get “triggered”. It’s because everyone knows All lives matter. But when people only use that argument when we say black lives matter, it’s like they don’t want to focus on the big picture. If your house was on fire and you needed help with that, how would you feel if a neighbor who’s house was fine said “well all houses matter.”?
All lives do not matter. Nazi lives do not matter. KKK lives don’t matter. Pedophile lives do not matter. Zoophile lives don’t matter. Murderer lives do not matter. There are so many lives to name that just don’t matter. Saying All Lives Matter is like going to a ‘Save The Whales!’ rally and saying, ‘All animals matter!’ You’re going to a protest about black lives and saying that all lives matter too. The fact is, all lives do not matter. Black people have been being killed and have been slaves. It’s just very problematic to support or say ALM. Don’t do it.
A lot of people seem to misunderstand slogans, be it BLM or Defund the police.
The first one doesn't means that black lives should matter more than others lives, it means it should matter just as much, which is clearly not the case at the moment in the US. Saying it is either just showing how delusional you are about the reality, either just because you don't want to understand.
Second one isn't taking all the money from the police and that's all, it's taking a part of their gargantuan budget -seriously, look up how much money they get in comparison to other important stuff- and use this money on other things like mental health, drug prevention and rehab etc. Which would allow police to not have to do jobs they aren't trained for and so they can to a better police job while improving their safety and the drug addict or mentally ill person safety, it's just win-win.
Mhm, indeed. Allow me to make this reply in a powerpoint style to address each point.
1a. Indeed, that is quite true, though, BLM shows hypocrisy through trying to get inclusion of the black community through the exclusion of everyone else. Why not try to make race not a thing if you're fighting for equality?
1b. They definitely do try to make everyone elses issues not matter though, like saying "white people can't face racism" even though I have faced serious racism in my life as a white person. The main reason I don't support them is their ignorant and sometimes racist generalizations.
2. It could be done, however, I believe we should put that money into better training, better limitations, etc. Defunding the police wouldn't really be productive. Overall, just use the Canadian system.
They are pissed off that they aren't SPECIAL, being black, or African-American! ALL LIVES matter, but most of us don't RIOT, and block roads and freeways, and piss off the ones that are needed to support the cause!!
because they feel like "black lives matter" represents the fight against a problem and when you say "all lives matter", to them it seems like you're trying to sweep their problem under the rug.
i'm not saying that this is very sensible but that's what it is.
Some that say all lives matter think Black Lives Matter means ONLY black lives matter. It really means black lives matter too so they say it as a response. It's not only black lives that matter, all lives matter. However, some people get triggered just by hearing or seeing All Lives Matter and those people are ignorant hypocrites. You cannot be fighting for equal opportunity and get mad when someone says we all matter. Black, Blue, Brown, White, All lives matter.
It's indirectly questioning their perspective on reality. When someone says "All Lives Matter" they are indirectly saying that black lives are not in any particular danger or being valued less than other lives. For many people this is an obvious truth. For many others it is an affront to all they know.
It's a conflict of worldviews, that is practically on a religious level. There are lots of strong emotions on all sides. People's fundamental Truth is being questioned.
Because, in their view, it dilutes an issue they see as uniquely Black. To a certain extent, even as a Trumpster, I agree. Do the lives 18 Blacks murdered in Chicago last weekend matter? Do the 40+% of Black babies aborted every year matter? Or do some Black lives matter more than others?
Becay it's the same as people saying not all men or men get raped too. They're just using it to overshadow them. When someone says black lives matter, they don't mean only black lives matter. Of course all lives matter, but people are using to push away their movement. They're saying black lives matter because they are being targeted and want to remind that they matter too.
Because it’s a slap in the face of what is actually trying to be communicated. I say black lives matter (no where am I saying no one else loves matter), and then you respond all lives matter. So then what you are saying by responding in that manner is: what you are saying (black lives matter) is unimportant. The real question is why are you triggered to say all lives matter? Is it because you believe all lives matter or is it because or you don’t like blacks.
Because they do not understand the principle of the message behind what black lives matter. People keep on killing black people for no reason. The message isn't supposed to downgrad white people. It means that stop killing black people just to kill them.
They get that way because you're not giving in to their dumb ass agenda and you're actually thinking for yourself.
Its just political propaganda. Those who say ALL LIVES MATTER are correct in their philosophy. God created us all in HIS image. People across the world are not doing what America is right, meaning as a whole. I do know some in Europe are protesting but damn they always fighting about something and protesting.
BLM is a respond to the racists who think it doesn't matter a penny, and to a whole system that back up their cosmovision. But why BLM? It's true that slavery and oppression always existed, however, Europe made an empire out if it. Who were the most affected?, Africans drawged world wide and Native Americans without mucho places to live.
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Because they want to keep acting like they’re victims when they’re not. Many more whites die at the hands of police than blacks. But when it happens the media stays silent. Many more whites die killed by blacks than vice versa. And black on black crime is WAYYYY higher than white on black or even black on white. But go ahead and keep screaming racism. Don’t wanna get killed by cops? Maybe don’t go around committing crimes and you won’t have to worry about it. Just a thought
@Gwxn_xy People who say All Lives Matter just to make BLM less important that's not nice. But most just want to say that ALM cause it's true and everyone, including BLM, matter.
People will tell you it's because it drive the attention away from BLM. Truth is, for them, not all lives matter. Only lives they're told to care about matter. And since they're told that white people are bad and evil and privileged, they just don't give a shit about them dying. But not just white people in fact. They don't give a shit about Asians or latinos either.
In fact, their movement should be called "only black lives matter".
It depends on why you're saying it. As just a general statement then it's fine but if you're saying it in response to Black Lives Matter then it's pretty messed up. It's like if a police officer watching you get assaulted decided to drive across town to stop a bunch of guys from gambling. Yeah gambling does matter but me getting my teeth kicked in matters more at the moment. All Lives Matter is basically saying "Let's not prioritize"
Some groups of people seem to think particular skin tone. Is the reason for deaths caused by police. Now most of the people that find themselves in that position where they are confronted by the police are usually not jaywalkers I'm just saying there's a reason why they have dealings with people. the police I mean, because usually somebody has done something that is against the law. In 96% of these cases I would guess but I still don't understand the answer to your question myself.
Because they think you don’t care about the seriousness that black lives face in proportion to other lives when it comes to the justice system specifically the law enforcement realm of the justice system.
Because they are always looking for someone or something to blame for their own laziness and incompetence rather than taking personal responsibility for their lives. Leftist culture will never tolerate differing oppinions or values. Rather than improve their argument, they are compelled to destroy or discredit their opponents by any means necessary. "Facts don't care about your feelings..."
The main issue? I have faced severe racism when I was white, does that mean I should have my problems belittled/discredited due to the colour of my skin? No, because that is not progressive in any way.
@Walrus_au That's the problem. We shouldn't question people on their experiences just because of their skin. Would you question black people on their experience of racism?
If you'd truly like to know, it was the greater Vancouver area.
@SwordShield You would leave people who cry racism or similar when they start to see others gaining equality with them have equal claims to those who have a lifetime history of oppression or abuse due to their race or other basic features (gender etc)
Ohhh I have experienced anti-white racism because now I have to compete for jobs with black people - is not racism Nor is claims of racism because someone stops you from keeping black folks out of the leadership of your church for example. Yet there are plenty who will cry racism for those issues.
The idea of leaving claims unquestioned is foolish. Questioning these claims does not require disrespecting the person or discarding their experience, what is in question is if that experience was actually racism or some other kind of bigotry or not.
So in the spirit of questionioning - you faced racism WHEN you were white? At what point were you white vs not white?
Ohhh and for the record, I absolutely do not subscribe to the idea that racism can only go in one direction. There is no such thing as 'reverse racism' the only reverse of racism would be radical racial inclusion.
@Walrus_au I see your point, and I agree. If there is no double standard, I can agree,
It happened during my childhood. I'd rather not go into it very much into it, but when I was younger, I was both shunned and bullied due to my skin. It's left a deep impact on me and that's why I'm so passionate on this subject.
I must say, you must be the most reasonable person I've seen on this site.
@SwordShield Well, I'd have to say that I too would be vehemently against people being shunned and bullied, whether it is for the colour of their skin or any other reason.
lol Thanks, not really a high bar to slither over most likely ;)
Sorry to hear you had a pack of asshats around you as a kid. Not cool for anyone.
Because its a protest to their protest. We all know that everyone's lives matter but people with coloured skin are judged more and treated worse then white people on a daily basis. * I hope this didn't come off as rude * I didn't know how to word it proper *
you said it perfect. But all the blame isn't on cops or white blacks nee to own it also. 75% of black children born out of wedlock 1.7 million doesn't have a father at home. Blacks kill black by the 1000's every year but we see no BLM protest Bills being drafted by black leaders in the house or senate mayor's or gov's. I've seen more black racist in my life then white one's i've seen blacks treat other light skin black different. There is a lot to fix. all people are racist it's called unknown bias.
Because it's a way of deflecting the fact of police prejudice toward minorities. Black Lives Matter doesn't mean that all lives don't matter equally.
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they just want another excuse to burn down their neighbor's business and steal their tv so they pretend to be outraged. They keep saying "of course all lives matter", but they sure as hell don't act like it the way they're killing police atm, or random people on the damn street. It's not one race or group under attack here, so it's stupid to ONLY focus on one group.
Because that's what we're focusing on right now. The police didn't say all lives matter did they? Our goal right now is to end racism so we're saying black lives matter too.
In the words of Jordan Peterson: because they see the world as a gigantic battlefield of oppressed groups of people fighting to prove that they are more oppressed than others to claim more money and special treatment.
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How do all lives matter, if we still have to convince people that black lives matter?
What I don't understand is those BLM activists preach this, yet burn down buildings, stores, and ruin lives of all people of all races, then they get heated when someone says All Lives Matter. why would you go burn down buildings? and ruin others peoples lives
I’ve noticed from a lot of videos that there are many white people trashing stores etc. doing it solely for the purpose of wreaking havoc and vandalizing. Others do it to try and incite change. They understandably feel as though peaceful protesting is simply not enough. Though I’m not an advocate for violence, I understand this when people are getting maced and injured for simply protesting on the streets.
This is a good question and an important point you make. It's not a zero-sum game where in order to gain in one area, something must be taken from another area. Both can exist in cooperation and alignment with each other without taking away something from either.
@Gwxn_xy "I think they're just trying to get revenge." Yes, however true justice is about balance, whereas revenge is about making yourself feel better. There is a proverb that says "Revenge is a dish best served cold", meaning it's better to deliver retribution for an injustice after time has passed and things have cooled down and it can be done dispassionately. But let's not forget the flipside - "If you want revenge, then dig two graves", one for the bad guy and one for a part of yourself as well.
Because that’s not the point. All forests matter but if one is on fire and the rest are safe doesn’t it make sense to send the fire department to the forest on fire? Doesn’t that one matter more right now?
In terms of police brutality your failing to understand that all races are more or less in an equal position. Also in regards to the forest even if one is immediately threatened, shouldn’t you still protect and value the others? I’m sick of BLM protesters harrasing me as an innocent white passerby every time I’m not holding a sign for their egos.
Indeed. Jack makes the statement all of us want to hear. I would instead propose a united action against racism, a united movement of all races. We want black people's problems to be heard, but we want every other race's problems heard to create an equal society.
BLM activists preach "black lives matter", yet burn down buildings, stores, and ruin lives of all people of all races, then they get heated when someone says All Lives Matter. why would you go burn down buildings? and ruin others peoples lives. and don't say it wasn't them involved, they were and are. They're backup support is a literal Racist Group known as the Black Panthers, i can give you some of their quotes if you'd like? or should we look at how Pro BLM "activists" attack white people for being white, they try to shame white people, they try to normalize it...
@SwordShield when peaceful protest have done nothing except forget peaceful protesters attacked for no damn reason I think rioting is more than Justified
Rioting is radical. This situation is highly comparable to how Hitler rose to power. He simply used the hate in the German people, as the radicals are doing with BLM, to gain influence.
Peaceful protesting ended the Vietnam war, peaceful protesting gained suffrage, peaceful protesting tore the Iron Curtain down.
Many things can be achieved. Don't let radicals convince you that violence is the only way, because violence is nothing but a path of pain and regret. You might achieve your goal with violence, but you would have become the very thing you were fighting for, making all of that loss for naught.
Yes, but did the American Revolutionary war come without great cost? No! 25,000 people were dead, civilians were starving due to American soldiers taking their food to live, and the newly founded USA was in an economical crisis!
Also, regular American people burned some British sympathizers alive in tar. Many atrocities were committed on both sides... Do not remain naïve to the cost of violence and war.
You notice that all of those had casualties, yes? Why do you not care for the lives of the people? This is why I have always insisted a non-violent solution when there is one available! Why resort to violence so hastily for peace?
Peaceful protests but also other things such as inquiring to the UN and the government are needed. Would you like to know why there hasn't been such a thing yet? They do not take you or the organization seriously because you have acted radically time and time again. Even BLM has exhibited toxic and radical behavior on their website.
Because they so passionately want you to coddle black people that anything less than full, specific, unconditional, copious, blind support is firmly unacceptable and traumatizing, thus inducing strong emotional responses.
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The blacks do. I had to get rid of a hater on Facebook she was way out of line about white people Saying All Blacks should go out and buy handguns and she was saying F to America in a protest video
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Because they are racists and/or have a giant chip on their shoulder.
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