Why do Turks refuse to aknowledge their crushing WW1 defeat, succesful invasion, surrender and occupation by the British army?

[American_Centurion]

[REDHOTLINE]

There are digussting lays. Türk never surrender. Also dont forget yours and frenchs 100 thousand and thousands died soldiers in çanakkale sea gate , balkans and nort africa and etc.
First picture: we hatr that basted arap lover tereater.
Second picture : you only stay in istanbul 2 years we defeated you take istabul again. Now in istanbul wawing Türk flag not English or others
Third picture : there is no mustafa kemal. mustafa kemal is a patriot not a trator like tayyip erdogan
Fouth picture: without last poppet sultan vahdettin non of the sultans surrender to their peoples. And also that picture there is no master and no bows down sultan
Fifth picture: big mass of turks hate araps they are traitors if I chance kill them all. they are two-faced and hypocrated aliens
I am shame we are the same religions.
Sixth picture : honor and virtue everything for us a Turk women frefer die to raping to be a prostitute and also they are greek women living in ottoman empire...
. DONT FORGET HAVE NO PORN ENDUSTRY !!! WHOSE WOMEN LOVE TO FUCKING THEMSELF TO MEN EVERY BODY KNOWS
than stop your dissgusting lies. If you are honorable man

[American_Centurion]

Lol you surrendered to the British laying down your arms. You surrendered, you lost in ww1. The Turks dared not do anything until the British left constantinople having already taken the best lands for their empire. Mustafa Kemal surrendered to his British masters. The Turkish soldier is so weak that some queer British guy led a bunch of arabs and forced the turks to surrender while the real war was fought elsewhere. Yeah turkish daughters and widows prostitutes themselves out to British soldiers because they knew the British were masters of the Turks, meanwhile turk men gathered in their turkish bathhouses for buttsex with each other.

[American_Centurion]

Turkey has a thriving porn industry, many turkish women travel to Amsterdam to become prostitutes and pornstars.
www.google.com/search

[Daniel_Dano]

Turks lost , ottoman gay soldiers were slaughtered easily

[REDHOTLINE]

They are the hiden cams not like your giant porn endustry. We have no porn companies brazzers etc. 😀

[REDHOTLINE]

@Daniel_Dano fuck you stupid young gay boy. all of you brainless gays.
In our culture never been gay. Its very common in your culture we have no gay bars and etc. Been gay in our culture worst stuff for a man.
Stop to tell me our culture

[American_Centurion]

Lol turkish baths are historically gay clubs. Porn is legal in Turkey and is espicially watched by turkish women. Like most things from cars to housing Turkey lacks the ability to produce high quality stuff so like with you must watch western porn like brazzers

[REDHOTLINE]

You are very funny I am only lauhting you ignorance and brainless centences ok come türkiye try to watch porn... you can't. all of them banned for a long years.
Yes we have prostuties but if we have a thousant you have millions and millions. You discover the porn , you discover naked. Our peoples ver shame and relicious peoles come and see what is the humanity what is the helpfulness.
You thing only your benefits if there no benefit for you dont to be anybody friends.
For you everythink is mkney benefit and selfish behaviors.
Stop this stupid brainless unhonorable slanders. first you see on yours dirty faces on the mirror and look your bloddy hands. We are not angels but you are worst and worst than us. Al your history fully war thief slave trade and rape.
First you look on your own faces than say to me our mistakes

[American_Centurion]

Yeah Turks love their porn.
Sorry but the truth about the Turks is ugly and hairy.
You lost in ww1 and surrendered the British occupied your country and left. They will always be master of the Turks.

[REDHOTLINE]

Ottoman empire may br loose but Türk's not loose.
We have already 7 states
Türkiye
Azerbaycan
Türkmenistan
Kazakistan
Özbekistan
Kırgızistan
Think about this matter again.

[American_Centurion]

Yeah they all lost. Either being Russia or Britain's bitches like your ancestors. Even the Pakistani were British bitches.

[REDHOTLINE]

I dont care about pakistans and hundered years russian and east europeans our bitches. we are never and never been anybodies bitches. thats enough I bored your lies

[American_Centurion]

Yet you are their bitches now. In ww1 you were Russia's bitch only the Germans saved you

[jakerson181]

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[sdtabot]

I'm too lazy to read. It's good to learn from the past but I don't want to keep living in the past.

[BoountyHunter]

Seems like a lot of people in the comments have no idea what the Ottoman Empire is :P...


I have ran into it a lot to be honest
lots of people revise history (especially if it holds Anti-American or Anti-White perspectives... because that seems popular today)


You wouldn't believe how many Muslims I speak to that have no clue what im talking about when I speak about the Islamic Conquests
OR. outright deny it existed


so it doesn't surprise me Turks would deny something more recent.

[slatyb]

Maybe for the same reason some people in the American South insist that the civil war was about "State's Rights" and not about "State's Rights to continue slavery"

[American_Centurion]

Probably a mix of the two. But when all things are examined neither side give a shit about the slaves. The continuation of slavery in the south would have been disastrous economically in the United states and would have held back progress. Lincoln recognized this as his father was a small farmer who never owned slaves that had been forced to sell up and move west a few times because he couldn't compete with the slave plantation owners. Plantation owners in the south were like English lords in Britain with a cheap workforce owning all the land and of course the poor whites in the south were completely dependent on them. The ordinary poor white southerner thought he was fighting for state rights, for his home and family but really he was fighting for rich powerful plantation owners and politician's wealth and power so they could keep what they had and gain more. When the war was over the confederates soldiers that survived returned to burned out farms, poverty and lean years while the very powerful rich men that advocated for the Confederacy even conscription poor white men continued to prosper after the war. Instead of being angry at these wealthy plantation owners and politicians they allowed themselves to be manipulated by these same men and their anger turned against the newly formed black slaves a legacy that continues today but is largely gone.

[American_Centurion]

"A South politician preaches to the poor white man
"You got more than the blacks, don't complain
You're better than them, you been born with white skin, " they explain
And the Negro's name
Is used, it is plain
For the politician's gain
As he rises to fame
And the poor white remains
On the caboose of the train
But it ain't him to blame
He's only a pawn in their game"
https://youtu.be/UlzaBi_QxPw

[AdithyaR]

Proy cause it's embarrassing to them and they want to forget it.

At least my country chased the British out. Yay!

[American_Centurion]

Not really. The British empire was broke after ww1 and had already signed the empire away to America during ww2 for 50 old USN destroyers. Just be glad the boarder wasn't drawn to pre British rule where the mughals had most of india in its grip.

[AdithyaR]

As far history was concerned the mughals were much better rulers than the British. The only rulers worse were the Khiljis.

[AdithyaR]

India, or back then Hindustan pretty much flourished under the rule of guys like Akbar and Shah Jahan.
It was after Aurangzeb that shit went down.

[American_Centurion]

didn't they kill a few hundred million hindus and seieks?

[AdithyaR]

Kind of yes
But British killed millions, stripped the country off a lot of its wealth and worst they ignited the flames of hatred that caused the partition of India and Pakistan which in turn caused the deaths of even more millions.

[AdithyaR]

I don't care about the religion. There have been hindu rulers too who have killed many of other religions.
But British killed indians indifferently, tortured many more.

[Curmudgeon]

In fairness, Attaturk was a hero, and pulled that country out of Jihadist barbarism. And now Erdogan and his ilk are pulling it back in. :(

[American_Centurion]

Still surrendered

[Curmudgeon]

Yes, and No. He DID reverse the Treaty of Sevres. The map does not look like this today, after all:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_S%C3%A8vres

[American_Centurion]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_Points

[Dargil]

Saracens have erased their history from the beginning. So did the soviets. Now the Left here is trying to do that with this statue toppling and name changing. The sad truth is that life was best for them under the boot of the Ottomans.

[Red_Dragon]

Because they are a bunch of lying crooks. I can't stand them. I'm for the Kurds. Why Trump didn't give them help is beyond me.

[AmeerX]

Atatürk was a British puppet. And the Sultan was a weakling for not going out for total war.

[American_Centurion]

He went for total war and lost. It was the Germans backing them up.

[AmeerX]

Then why is it they had to go for surrender instead of total defeat. It was a great conspiracy

[American_Centurion]

Nah because the jig was up. Turks relied on German armaments. Remember this was a war were in some battles 50,000 died in the first day of fighting.
The Turks raised 2,873,000 conscripts, 1/3 of these were killed in action, 300,000 were seriously wounded, 500,000 Turks deserted, 200,000 were prisoners of war.
So that leaves about over 1million left of the original army with no food, no ammunition no weapons. Out fought at every turn. The Turks were unprepared to fight a modern war, the British fighting on multiple fronts globally by sea land and air showed the weakness of turks and became master of the turks.

[AmeerX]

Obviously, they were unprepared and complacent

[American_Centurion]

... and beaten.

[lpoots]

has Ireland accepted the unlawful occupation of its boarders by the uk

[American_Centurion]

Yes they have.

[lpoots]

thats why the IRA have staged a war against the occupying force

[American_Centurion]

The IRA split and became Irish army and the other half was defeated in the Irish civil war in the early 20s.
The Irish government signed away their claim to northern Ireland in the 1987 Anglo-Irish agreement with both Britain & Ireland recognizing the people of northern Ireland's democratic right to decide.
As of 1998 the provisional IRA, their weapons destroyed have ceased to exist as an organisation and signed up to the good Friday agreement. That's 22 years ago and most members are now in their mid 40s to late 60s and have retired being paid off with money from America and the northern bank note robberies. Lots of ex ira men are suffering with PTSD, drug and alcohol addiction, failed marriages and a lot of regret as it was all for nothing and needless. The people didn't want the terror campaign and as the youth grow up they are disgusted at these men.
Watch this video
https://youtu.be/J5PuYLHFtWI

[American_Centurion]

Says your 54 and from the uk you really should know your history

[lpoots]

what the fuck do americans know about what happens in Ireland
apart from fund raising terrorism

[American_Centurion]

The north of Ireland is at peace thanks to American efforts.

[lpoots]

if the americans had not raised money for the IRA
fewer people would have been murdered
this is why the world does not care how many americans are killed by fellow americas on American soil
did you know more americans have been killed by fellow americans on US soil
than the millitary have lost in all over seas military campaigns

[American_Centurion]

Misguided former British citizens living in America raised the money for the IRA when they say the the British army shooting British citizens in the streets and remembered the oppression.
If the British government hadn't shot all those British citizens and had given those British citizens their civil rights thered have been no support for the ira abroad or in Britain.
Also if the British government hadn't set up paramilitary organisations such as the the RUC, UDR, B-Specials, UVF, LVF, UFF, red handed commandos to oppress British citizens and the orange order celebrating a Dutch man who usurped the British crown and massacred loyal British citizens using a foreign army made up of dutch, germans and italians used to riot and destroy British citizen's property and assault them in mobs.
Yeah the US military is bad ass, a young black man has a higher survival rate in Afghanistan than living in Detroit.

[YHL6965]

I think it could be because they see the Ottoman Empire as something different from modern Turkey. In any case, what would it change if they acknowledged it really?

[John_Doesnt]

You British are so gay with your tea and frilly lace.

[Pete671]

gay? what about Larry Grayson and Freddie Mercury then?

[John_Doesnt]

@Pete671 those men are totally gay.

[OddBeMe]

They deny a lot of things, more importantly the genocide of Armenians. Like trump, they like to bend the truth.

[leftis25]

Turks are good to lie and hide the truth as always.. those monkeys should vanish from the planet

[TheAfrikan]

There is no person who can easily accept a win over his own mighty army. At least you rather win a battle of mind games and keep the pride on.

[Tstrbrainer]

Because that's embarrassing to them.
I don't know much about this history

[TheFlak38]

turks refuse many things.

[skeetskeetskeet]

I didn't knownthey still had turks

[msc545]

I have no idea - maybe ask the Turks?

[CubaPirate]

Because they're uneducated savages

[ActiveSh1tter]

The Allie's never conquered Turkey AFAIK

[American_Centurion]

Yep they did. They occupied the territory and left they took the majority of turkish lands from them leaving the worthless parts that make up Turkey today. The Turks surrendered

[ActiveSh1tter]

If you mean the middle East, those were never parts of turkey. They were countries occupied by the ottoman empire.

[American_Centurion]

There never was a turkey before ww1 but there was a turk people who ruled a lot of other people such as Greeks, Latins, jews, samatlrtians, arabs, coptics, Iranians, armenians, Kurdish, assyrians, Syrians, bulgarians and so on. The land that is now Turkey was as much territory as the defeated Turks could get after the Turks surrender in ww1. Turks like most muslims will not let different peoples espicially non-muslims rule themselves in their own countries which is why they killed so many Armenians, greeks, Latins and others.

[NYCQuestions1976]

Fascinating.