Agreed. Most of these rules aren't preventing people from getting sick. People who are scared of covid need to stay home and let everyone else who is willing to go out be allowed to without having to follow stupid rules.
Some of them made sense early on when very little was known, but within a month the CDC was already debunking most of the measures including as ineffective. For various (political) reasons however, a lot of the most ridiculous requirements passed by state and local governments came even later, which is probably why several governors are now facing legal action by their state legislatures.
It is fair to assume that most if not everyone will get this virus eventually. The precautions are there to slow its advance down so the medical services can cope with the worst cases, and to give science a chance to catch up.
yes they absolutely are. just google up the PCR test they use to claim that people have corona. it's not even ratified for diagnostic purposes. it can not indicate an ongoing infection.
there's just so many layers of bullshit in this entire corona reaction. and the scariest thing is that it's most western nations... not just one.
Because not everyone is doing it right. People touch their face all the time, so masks don't work if you are in the prescence of the virus. If you'd want everyone to be completely safe from the virus; people should be walking around in hazmat suits or some shit like that.
You don't have to go that far, look at the countries where it's actually being managed properly. Masks, distancing, and hygene reduce the spread so that cases are reduced.
Not at all. I’ve actually had to go to Montana and North Dakota, and the restrictions in those states are very very lenient. People didn’t have to wear a mask and weren’t 6 feet apart, let alone staying at home.
So it’s not only not everyone is following the rules, but that also some states are very lenient with their restrictions. And when people can easily travel across state lines easily, America is only as good as it’s worst state.
To answer the question... Yes. The agenda is about govt CONTROL over the people, not about safety and health. Very few people are getting seriously sick, and almost nobody is dying. Masks should only be worn by SICK people, not healthy ones. People are using the terms "sham-demic" and "scam-demic" for good reasons.
Countries that locked things down and took shit seriously have few cases (like less than 15 a day)... Countries that don't do that /didn't do it soon enough / have politics that try to hijack the medical facts are the ones going crazy.
Not sure what that has to do with it? That's the same for everyone tho our governed paths $1200 a fortnight to people out of work during covid and they created "JobKeeper" incentive to keep businesses employing people who aren't needed at work... Perks of having a country that looks after its people!
Still not sure what your point is... Of course I don't own a business I'm 16. Both my parents run businesses... They are being held up by the government, so are their employees, while we wait for covid to improve here (tho most businesses are returning to normal now).
@connythebaker Forming a voluntary contract to work and earn money is a human right. During this time it's irresponsible to continue to do so if it's a high-risk job. However, it's not the place of the government to force everyone to be responsible. That's an individual choice that people need to make.
Okay, I can respect that. I used to like ayn rand back in the day. I will support your case for dropping those restrictions if you support mine for my human right to accept money from strangers for sex in the US (it is a voluntary contract) and for any drugs to be available without prescription (recreational or not - my choice whether I act responsible or not). I also want the 1986 gun-ban lifted, the 2nd ammendment does not contain a single word about fully automatics to be banned.
But.. that's a false dichotomy on top of a nirvana fallacy.
There's so many people not following safety guidelines, literally 45-50% from my observations. You can't just dismiss that because you don't feel it's important.
There is obviously something fishy a out this Because I am in california and everyday the increase in deaths and cases is increasing and I have yet to know someone personally who has died, let alone contracted the virus lol
It was a allowed test run they assumed it wouldn't kill so let people decide what to do, see if they can listen to the facts and behave correctly not nowhere neat enough did next time it will be a forced and real quarentine as healthy people will spread and kill outhers even protest it's sick they did that.
The government, businesses, and the people are to blame due to selfishness, greed, and just plain ignorance. Almost 200k people have lost their lives and yet people still think it's a game. What part of this is funny?
The majority of the people dying are people that were already in the process of dying, people with cancer, diseases, heart conditions and so on... only about 0.06% of healthy people have been affected, the media makes it seem like it’s a dangerous virus that’s going to kill everybody, but the truth is it’s not, it only kills those that are extremely unhealthy. Even DOCTORS are saying this... including DOCTORS from CHINA...
The media is publicizing the Virus for political leverage against trump, just like how they are using BLM for their Marxist political agenda.
Covid sure seems to exist only when there’s a trump rally or trump protest, but not when the far left and cuckhold liberal left destroy cities and “peacefully” protest.
The people that are dying from covid are those that were already in the process of dying, how come the weekly and monthly and yearly rates of other medical related deaths have dropped? And covid-19 deaths have risen? How does that even happen?
Fred dies of a motorcycle accident but he had covid so they write it off as a covid death so the hospital can cash a bonus $600.00 from the Covid-19 patient relief fund.
Wonder how reputable source like the CDC is when they torture animals and they experiment on humans at Plum island, yeah let’s just trust those guys for information. Be gone kid
I don't get why this keeps coming back to making Trump look bad. Do people not realize that this is global? Are people wearing masks and lockdowns in other countries making Trump look bad? Only in America would health be politicised so much.
It's better to overreact than not react enough. Years from now, we can debate if we overreacted. We will know if we don't react enough. People will drop like flies.
Because a lot of people hate to follow rules and ask/told to do something. They believe if it is told/on YouTube, social media, news, internet new, etc them it is true. We pick up something that is less creditable then true facts.
Right! Those goddamn government bastards want you to all suffocate under your masks so you cannot vote for Trump who is currently... the head of government? Waaait a minute...
@TienShenhan He is the head of government. He can dismiss any other member of government at any time. How can his own crew work against him? Why would they even want to?
You really haven't the slightest clue what is going on. The establishment hates Trump, they have worked against him since day 1, and the purpose of these shutdowns is to make him look bad so they can install an establishment president again to undo what he is done. They wanted Hillary to be president so they can have their war with Russia, hence the Russia-gate conspiracy that has no basis in reality. Why would they work against him you ask? Because he will not be controlled by the Deepstate, which is why the smear campaign they started against him in 2016 is still in affect DAILY
@TienShenhan The establishment is not the government, but nvm. I think I see what you mean by "deep state". Looks like Trump can only count on his most loyal supporters then, if he is ever to be treated in a just way. Better buy another AR-15 and some 30 clips, just in case... After all a situation like that was what the 2nd ammendment was written for, wasn't it?
Naw. If people wore mask and followed social distancing most places can open. Also many places need to revision their businesses to make it covid friendly. Unfortunately this the new norm and some people are resistant to change
No there’s gonna be a new norm... covid will be around killing elderly people for ever. Maybe we can reduce it to flu like symptoms and get rid of the death toll but life will change for elderly people. Even with a cure. I’ve heard it’s mutated many times and if so we prob can’t cure it we’ll just have to live safe...
The shutdowns will change. They will lock up old people and limit access. Families will be split. To prevent spread buildings will hold less people so they will charge more for product... jobs will cost more to employ people so fewer jobs probably paying less.
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Agreed. Most of these rules aren't preventing people from getting sick. People who are scared of covid need to stay home and let everyone else who is willing to go out be allowed to without having to follow stupid rules.
Some of them made sense early on when very little was known, but within a month the CDC was already debunking most of the measures including as ineffective. For various (political) reasons however, a lot of the most ridiculous requirements passed by state and local governments came even later, which is probably why several governors are now facing legal action by their state legislatures.
It is fair to assume that most if not everyone will get this virus eventually. The precautions are there to slow its advance down so the medical services can cope with the worst cases, and to give science a chance to catch up.
They’re def not an overreaction when people have died from COVID and others have experienced irreversible heart issues and lung damage
yes they absolutely are. just google up the PCR test they use to claim that people have corona. it's not even ratified for diagnostic purposes. it can not indicate an ongoing infection.
there's just so many layers of bullshit in this entire corona reaction. and the scariest thing is that it's most western nations... not just one.
Because not everyone is doing it right. People touch their face all the time, so masks don't work if you are in the prescence of the virus. If you'd want everyone to be completely safe from the virus; people should be walking around in hazmat suits or some shit like that.
You don't have to go that far, look at the countries where it's actually being managed properly. Masks, distancing, and hygene reduce the spread so that cases are reduced.
Ofcourse it doesn't have to. I'm just saying that's probably the safest thing to do, other than becoming a hermit
The point is that if everybody puts up with some mild restrictions, everybody is safer.
Not at all. I’ve actually had to go to Montana and North Dakota, and the restrictions in those states are very very lenient. People didn’t have to wear a mask and weren’t 6 feet apart, let alone staying at home.
So it’s not only not everyone is following the rules, but that also some states are very lenient with their restrictions. And when people can easily travel across state lines easily, America is only as good as it’s worst state.
To answer the question... Yes. The agenda is about govt CONTROL over the people, not about safety and health. Very few people are getting seriously sick, and almost nobody is dying. Masks should only be worn by SICK people, not healthy ones. People are using the terms "sham-demic" and "scam-demic" for good reasons.
Countries that locked things down and took shit seriously have few cases (like less than 15 a day)... Countries that don't do that /didn't do it soon enough / have politics that try to hijack the medical facts are the ones going crazy.
you have everything provided for you , but if some people don't work , they starve
Not sure what that has to do with it? That's the same for everyone tho our governed paths $1200 a fortnight to people out of work during covid and they created "JobKeeper" incentive to keep businesses employing people who aren't needed at work... Perks of having a country that looks after its people!
That is why 30 million or more have no job now. People that never have run a business say this
Still not sure what your point is... Of course I don't own a business I'm 16. Both my parents run businesses... They are being held up by the government, so are their employees, while we wait for covid to improve here (tho most businesses are returning to normal now).
It's not just an overreaction, it's a despicable violation of basic human rights.
Since when is infecting others a human right?
@JenSCDC I think he is talking about being ignorant as a right in which case I have to agree with him, sadly.
@connythebaker Forming a voluntary contract to work and earn money is a human right. During this time it's irresponsible to continue to do so if it's a high-risk job. However, it's not the place of the government to force everyone to be responsible. That's an individual choice that people need to make.
Okay, I can respect that. I used to like ayn rand back in the day. I will support your case for dropping those restrictions if you support mine for my human right to accept money from strangers for sex in the US (it is a voluntary contract) and for any drugs to be available without prescription (recreational or not - my choice whether I act responsible or not). I also want the 1986 gun-ban lifted, the 2nd ammendment does not contain a single word about fully automatics to be banned.
@connythebaker Yeah, I already agree with all of that.
But.. that's a false dichotomy on top of a nirvana fallacy.
There's so many people not following safety guidelines, literally 45-50% from my observations. You can't just dismiss that because you don't feel it's important.
There is obviously something fishy a out this
Because I am in california and everyday the increase in deaths and cases is increasing and I have yet to know someone personally who has died, let alone contracted the virus lol
It was a allowed test run they assumed it wouldn't kill so let people decide what to do, see if they can listen to the facts and behave correctly not nowhere neat enough did next time it will be a forced and real quarentine as healthy people will spread and kill outhers even protest it's sick they did that.
What?
Can't really say it no different just one word neat instead of near. What don't you get about it?
The government, businesses, and the people are to blame due to selfishness, greed, and just plain ignorance. Almost 200k people have lost their lives and yet people still think it's a game. What part of this is funny?
The majority of the people dying are people that were already in the process of dying, people with cancer, diseases, heart conditions and so on... only about 0.06% of healthy people have been affected, the media makes it seem like it’s a dangerous virus that’s going to kill everybody, but the truth is it’s not, it only kills those that are extremely unhealthy. Even DOCTORS are saying this... including DOCTORS from CHINA...
The media is publicizing the Virus for political leverage against trump, just like how they are using BLM for their Marxist political agenda.
The FLU kills more people a week than COVID-19 does in 5 months.
@Conspiracy_Theorist citation please.
Watch every non mainstream media network that has ever existed on this planet...
Oh and get triggered please.
@Conspiracy_Theorist in other words, you have nothing. If you had the facts on your side, it would be easy to fufil my request.
I have more than what you have, prove you’re side, you can’t.
@Conspiracy_Theorist um... you're the one who made a claim- it's your responsibility to back it up, not mine.
Um how is it a claim when it’s fact?
Covid sure seems to exist only when there’s a trump rally or trump protest, but not when the far left and cuckhold liberal left destroy cities and “peacefully” protest.
The people that are dying from covid are those that were already in the process of dying, how come the weekly and monthly and yearly rates of other medical related deaths have dropped? And covid-19 deaths have risen? How does that even happen?
Fred dies of a motorcycle accident but he had covid so they write it off as a covid death so the hospital can cash a bonus $600.00 from the Covid-19 patient relief fund.
https://youtu.be/75uwKcD3dv4 this is the far left, this is the party you back, you’re opinion doesn’t matter.
You’re a man behind the cover as a “woman” on this website, to gain more attention for your outrageous Ego, change my mind.
@Conspiracy_Theorist all I'm doing is asking you to point me to a reputable source, such as the CDC.
Lol the CDC? Ahahahahhahahaha they are not a reliable source for anything whatsoever, that’s like saying the FDA is reliable... LOL be gone sheep
Wonder how reputable source like the CDC is when they torture animals and they experiment on humans at Plum island, yeah let’s just trust those guys for information. Be gone kid
Man you made me laugh, thanks for that, changed my whole day!
I don't get why this keeps coming back to making Trump look bad. Do people not realize that this is global? Are people wearing masks and lockdowns in other countries making Trump look bad? Only in America would health be politicised so much.
It's better to overreact than not react enough. Years from now, we can debate if we overreacted. We will know if we don't react enough. People will drop like flies.
Because not everyone is following the rules.
Sorry; I don't care if you don't want to hear it. The truth is inconvenient sometimes.
Because a lot of people hate to follow rules and ask/told to do something. They believe if it is told/on YouTube, social media, news, internet new, etc them it is true. We pick up something that is less creditable then true facts.
Sorry about the mistakes in English
Right! Those goddamn government bastards want you to all suffocate under your masks so you cannot vote for Trump who is currently... the head of government? Waaait a minute...
Trump is not the emporer. He's not the one politicizing this horse shit virus
@TienShenhan He is the head of government. He can dismiss any other member of government at any time. How can his own crew work against him? Why would they even want to?
You really haven't the slightest clue what is going on. The establishment hates Trump, they have worked against him since day 1, and the purpose of these shutdowns is to make him look bad so they can install an establishment president again to undo what he is done. They wanted Hillary to be president so they can have their war with Russia, hence the Russia-gate conspiracy that has no basis in reality. Why would they work against him you ask? Because he will not be controlled by the Deepstate, which is why the smear campaign they started against him in 2016 is still in affect DAILY
@TienShenhan The establishment is not the government, but nvm. I think I see what you mean by "deep state". Looks like Trump can only count on his most loyal supporters then, if he is ever to be treated in a just way. Better buy another AR-15 and some 30 clips, just in case... After all a situation like that was what the 2nd ammendment was written for, wasn't it?
New. If people work a mask and followed social distancing most places can open.
Omg autocorrect
Naw. If people wore mask and followed social distancing most places can open. Also many places need to revision their businesses to make it covid friendly. Unfortunately this the new norm and some people are resistant to change
This shouldn’t be the new normal. This is a joke. It’s inconvenient and stupid and doesn’t work
Smh..
No there’s gonna be a new norm... covid will be around killing elderly people for ever. Maybe we can reduce it to flu like symptoms and get rid of the death toll but life will change for elderly people. Even with a cure. I’ve heard it’s mutated many times and if so we prob can’t cure it we’ll just have to live safe...
Smh agreeeeed
@VanillaSalt yea but not with all of these bull shit things that are put in place
The shutdowns will change. They will lock up old people and limit access. Families will be split. To prevent spread buildings will hold less people so they will charge more for product... jobs will cost more to employ people so fewer jobs probably paying less.
Or after Nov it might just fucking disappear...
@VanillaSalt agreed
You can't make any money with 2 people inside building. You can't eat outside in winter