Haha. You ask a question and then explicitly tell people not to give the correct answer. That makes me think you don't really want an answer to your question but are just trying to spread propaganda.
The virus primarily spreads by human to human contact so it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to understand that limiting human to human contact as much as possible would greatly limit the spread.
I think the ironic thing about this sad situation we're in is that if Trump had been a real leader and listened to the experts that best understand viruses and early on came out with a statement about the virus being a threat to our country and that it was patriotic to quarantine and wear masks, the majority of his followers would have done it and the virus would have spread a lot less, many fewer people would have died or gotten seriously ill, and the economy (after a serious but probably short hit which was inevitable in the case of a pandemic), would likely be rebounding better by now. If that had happened, Trump would have gotten credit for being a good leader and doing the right thing and might even have an approval rating above 50% for the first time and would likely be on his way to a relatively easy re-election.
Instead, thinking only about himself as he always does, Trump took the approach of "the virus will be bad for the economy and the economy is the centerpiece of my re-election strategy so I'm going to ignore the advice I get and pretend it's nothing to worry about to try to keep the economy going even if it costs a bunch of people their lives." Since he's not a deep thinker or a long term thinker and doesn't believe in science, he didn't realize that in the long run that ostrich approach of sticking his head in the sand (and telling all of his followers to do the same) and hoping that the virus would just magically disappear would do a lot more damage to his reputation and his re-election chances than doing what was best for the country and its citizens.
I don't know if he realizes that even now, but even if he does, he would never admit to being wrong about anything, so he just keeps doubling down on the ostrich approach and trying to pin the blame for the disaster he's made worse than it needed to be on someone else (the Chinese, the liberals, the media, the deep state, or even the few people in his own administration that have tried to do the right thing).
His strategy now seems to be trying to hide the truth about the pandemic and convince people that the facts about it are lies designed to defeat him to cover his tracks for all the things he's done wrong regarding this serious issue. Now, trailing in the polls (which he might not be if he'd done the right thing from the beginning), he's ramping up the lies and misinformation hoping that his true believers that just blindly believe him without doing any critical thinking or fact checking will carry him to victory in November. Time will tell whether that works. For the good of all of us, including Trump's followers, I certainly hope it doesn't.
It is serious but being taken unseriously by an unserious people. The media echoing that reality as much as creating it.
For comparison, contrast the current pandemic to the Spanish influenza epidemic of 1918-1919. The Spanish virus infected 500 million people worldwide and killed an estimated 20 million to 50 million victims. This out of a world population at that time of just over 1.6 billion.
By any measure, the world has experienced far worse, with far fewer of the economic resources and scientific and technological innovations that it has today. That there is reason to be concerned and prudent is undoubted.
By contrast, shutting the economy down in the ephemeral search for a solution is disproportionate. A sensible and sober people realize that not every problem has a solution. Rather, some are just difficulties to be managed. Indeed, it being arguable that the pursuit of a solution may likely cause as many, if not more, problems than it solves.
Then there is the analogy to the nation at war. It is amusing, to say no more, to imagine FDR after Pearl Harbor declaring the nation at war and then telling everyone to sit in their living rooms. The boys who stormed Normandy or Guadalcanal no doubt would have pined for such a war.
The nation, it would seem, cannot pat itself on the back quite enough. Told to stay home, the media obligingly conducts Skype interviews of people quarantined as if being held hostage. If indeed such a thing can be called a quarantine that allows trips to the grocery store and the pharmacy and the dollar store and the post office with abandon.
The inconveniences are real, but hardly unbearable and might be deemed, in a nation of adults, just doing one's civic duty. It being well to recall, as has been well said, that no one deserves a garland for doing their duty.
The problem is serious but, as history has repeatedly shown, manageable. The reaction to it has careened between hysterical fits, overreaction and an insufferable sense of self-congratulation and self-pity. The policy to manage the issue overreaching and apt to produce unintended outcomes at least a calamitous as the immediate problem.
Time for the country to grow-up, get some perspective and put on its' proverbial "big boy pants." Serious it is, but that does not mean it has also not been over-hyped and overplayed. They are not, much as one might wish they were, mutually incompatible.
People are not observing the rules!
It's as plain and simple as this. I work in healthcare and what I see is this, a simple instruction : "we are operating a one way system, at the end of your appointment I will escort you out the building through the back, you will need to sanitise your hands and walk out and turn left and left again to get back to the main road"
Im calm and speak a little slower so they don't miss anything (not patronising slow, clear slow as I speak relatively fast)
Some patients are so anxious they don't hear and make mistakes then get jumpy and apologetic.
Others can be rather ignorant and arrogant and refuse to listen because they think it's nonsense to be told what to do.
Then there are the more reasonable people that say, whether I believe there is a virus or not I will do what I can to prevent the spread. These people are calm and appreciate my clear instructions and even thank me for what I'm doing to help keep them safe.
There are other variations to these behaviours but I outlined the main points within them.
Generally speaking before this pandemic we were already facing a pandemic to many people and so few resources.
There are many people that suffer that don't care about spreading the virus, because they feel oppressed/neglected by society.
Others that are making huge strides in life that begrudge those incapable of providing/contributing something to society the way they do. Human beings are the disease because so many of us are so hateful, unkind, competitive and believe in hierarchy.
Trumps speeches already highlight that and right now he's speaking to a society of people that feel afflicted. Due to a hierarchical mindset regardless of their society wealth.
Yes.
From the history of humankind until today we have overcome many nightmares and been able to live together. This pandemic is total bullshit.
This self isolation is the biggest test, we humans were made to live together and it’s already hard to be single and have a successful career and this pandemic took that away jobs, lives and the simple act of socializing.
If you don’t know, there’s something bigger happening behind this. The number of deaths is probably normal because many people die everyday, those numbers are just not exposed to us, but with the fake pandemic they are adding c-19 to death certificates, people who never had covid.
They want you to believe in this they are poisoning your head with anxiety, fear, death, disaster and solitude by obligation.
Man made shit.
Literally I’ve got a friend who had it, nothing more than regular cold but a bit stronger. Nobody died from that.
Whatever is on the news is all fake. I don't know how they are able to stage this but they done a great job and fucking our 2020. Government and their allies.
“We” the poor community are just being used, poisoned, brainwashed and nobody cares about us. Is you against the world fr.
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Social distancing should be social absence. Standing 6, 8, or 10 feet will not stop the spread. If you are standing 10 feet behind some one in line that is infected. They infected that air space. Once you walk through it you are infected mask or not. It is in your hair, clothes and skin. It can live on surfaces any where between a couple of hours to 48 hours. So your mask might help you not get sick but you are spreading it to all the morons that aren't wearing a mask or they have their nose exposed. Wearing a mask but leaving the nose exposed is like using a condom with the tip cut off. Bottom line social distancing is worthless. Masks help more than they hurt. One person can infect a hundred people. Then each one of those hundred people can infect another hundred people. The worst thing is a person that is asymptomatic can catch it and spread it like wildfire because they don't get sick. The strand that came out of China has mutated like 10 times. The vaccine they were working on is for that strand. People need to stop being stupid and wise up so life can get back to some sort of normalcy.
How would you feel is someone close to you did get the virus and ended up dying from it? Would it have a negative effect on you and others you are close to in your life? After thinking about those questions ask yourself this, Do you want to chance that happening?
One of the biggest issues is people tend to not think something is serious tell it hits close to home. This way of thinking can create major issues for themselves and others around them. I could sit here and type up a massive list of issues and the consequences of them that are caused by people having a mind set that boils down to its not an issue tell it effects me. The funny thing is that many issues in those peoples life are created by others with the same mindset.
Also leave the political bs out of it and remove politics from the equation so think for yourself. Politics breeds people that won't or can't think for themselves. It is also a breeding ground for group think. There are countless examples through out human history of how destructive people not thinking for themselves can be. There are also countless examples of people in positions of power using group think to blind people to what they are doing. The only sure way to stop both and ensure neither happen is having the majority of people in a given country think for themselves and question everything.
That's about as fvcking stupid as saying "If seat belts and driving tests work so well, then why are road deaths and accidents still happening?"
Trump IS the government, and has less intelligence than a goldfish. Which is why he and his hicks made such a mess of the pandemic, the economy and the protests.
The reason people continue to get sick is that the virus is spreading and mutating. Hence making a vaccine more difficult. The main problem is not just the deaths caused by the virus, but the fact it can make thousands sick at a time, and cause long term medical problems, even in those that had a mild illness.
The virus is novel in that it attacks nearly all cells it comes across. Where ones like influenza attack only respiratory cells, or Ebola the autoimmune cells. Corona will cleave a path through the system. In young kids it probably won't express much as most of the cells are growing and replicating anyway. But in adults and elderly most of the growth is slow and thus an attack is going to be more widely expressed across the organ.
Whatever the life cycle may eventually be. Science and medicine work by ensuring there is more facts and figures on the ground, than opinions and Facebook posts. Taking precautions will help reduce excess issues to an extent that the problem can be studied as objectively as possible.
People dicking around and secretly doing things contrary to precautions is going to mess a lot of data and procedure up.
Honestly in the beginning I took things very seriously, I followed all of the rules and precautions. I would have believed that the reason things weren't getting better was because of those who weren't wearing masks. But things are getting ridiculous at this point, it's hard not to believe that things aren't political. There's so much conflicting information and who knows how much of it is true? States have admitted to exaggerating the number of cases and people have gotten false positives.
I am anxious to see what November brings.
It's more of a litmus for world government. Those that wear mask outside or in their cars are compliant with the world government and are slaves to the media, those that don't wear it outside or in their cars are not compliant and are resistant. If a private business wants you to, it's no different than wearing a tie, shirt, or shoes, but you don't have to buy from them if you don't want to. I don't wear a mask outside, because it is unnecessary. Over 40% are nursing home deaths and 25% are misfiled under Covid, we won't realize just how much we were duped until next year. It looks more like the Flu everyday. The world government doesn't want Trump, so they are fighting as hard as they can to stop him.
Why not say " because not everyone is following the rules"?
This is only true, we got people celebrating huge parties with lots of people even though they are know as super spreader events.
We got people not wearing masks in public.
We got people not keeping distance.
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This is how the virus can still spread and this is 100% against the rules that government, WHO, CDC, ... and all other institutions advice.
In the US you also got a really late reaction and realization that these measurements are needed, so more people got the virus in the first place and more people can spread it.
Trump comment set aside I don't bother with politics on social media.
I don't think we're having an overreaction I think we're having an underreaction right now at least in my area
We are seeing spikes again. I think people got too overexcited at seeing the numbers drop and then of course with the warm weather they want to be out. Some people we're just tired of being locked away and got careless.
It will work out in the end. With time things will settle down we just have to be patient and do our best to stay safe. All we can do is just make sure we're doing the best we can do everyday and we act responsibly. We can't control what anyone else is doing only our own actions.
The measures exist to slow down the spread. The virus spreads due to human contact even if there are masks and other things (masks just slow it down). Also, viruses spread in households because families typically take less distance.
The point of quarantine measures is to prevent infected people from infecting other people in completely different places who could then infect more people.
If you infect people in your household and that household is quarantined, not much happens.
If you infect a bunch of people at the supermarket, they then infect their own households who could then infect more people. Remember, most people tend to be asymptomatic so even if infected they won’t notice. Hence, people tested positively need to quarantine.
It took a while for people to realise it could be transmitted by aerosol, essentially a mask prevents big droplets from landing on surfaces and other people most masks will block around 70% but the remaining 30% goes around the sides of the mask. This is why there are guidelines for how many people can be inside to prevent aerosol transmission.
Oh and most people needed to be aware of wearing glasses as it can be contracted through eyes as well.
There was some interesting research done by Dr Donald Milton, with his gesundheit machine.
Just be as safe as you can washing hands, not touching face or eyes, keeping distance. Minimise the risks as much as you can.
Who knows I thought we were supposed to lock down get the hospitals with all their supplies and then open it back up
I think people have to decide if they want to get on with life are they going to spend the rest of it lockdown because I guess now we're finding out that somebody that had the virus has gotten it again now so given that and half the people wouldn't take a vaccine if we had one it's either live with a mask on her STL high for her let the virus work its way out I'm not sure if that's good or bad but if we crash the country think we're going to be really hurting
That's ridiculous. Masks and other measures can work; Europe has a tenth of the number of new cases and deaths per capita of the United States' at the moment. I'll leave it up to you to come up with a reason why.
0.3 deaths per million compared to 2.8 in the US.
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-14..latest&country=OWID_WRL~USA~BRA~EU~EuropeanUnion~GBR&deathsMetric=true&interval=smoothed&hideControls=true&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc
I’m an American living in Tokyo, and we have very low Corona cases here despite our crowded cities and high population. Every citizen wears a mask.
Whereas America has more cases than any country because they think “corona is just a cold” and because Trump fired the team that was supposed to be handling this. It’s embarrassing really. Wear a mask people.
I hate when gag does that, you write until there isn't any free space, gag says there ther is no space, and in the second after, all I wrote is gone
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Thats exactly the answer
People are dumb, most governments even dumber because they believe the propaganda they feed their own population...
Far right got highest infection rates, far left are some covid free states...
There are even a mask test with a fire or pee and still the people are too dumb to understand...
Maybe we should also talk about needed jobs, but yes, we're already clapped for them so payment stays the lowest you can get... while big companies pay themself millions with our tax money and still fire thousands
In other words you can't handle the truth and would prefer some bullshit. We know how Covid-19 spreads. Many cases have been traced to events where people gathered without wearing masks. The University called students back to campus, they partied like it was 2019, and now 1000 are infected.
I'm not gonna spend the rest of my life locked up inside and away from the people I love and want to spend time with. Let me get sick if I get sick, and if I die that's on me. Survival of the fittest. If I'm not fit to survive, too bad.
The masks are making it worse. And causing other problems. When cities fill fine you for singing hymns in your own car all by yourself at a drive-in church service, or will jail you for wailing outside a synagogue even with a mask on, but Muslims can ignore all the rules and do as they please, along with BLM, Antifa, ISIS, MS13, etc., then you know it has nothing to do with health. It's a coup.
If mask work so well then why are people still getting sick?
That's like saying if seat belts work so well why do you need air bags.
Nothing is full proof. A mask is meant to slow down transmission but it doesn't eradicate the virus. Also, look at the number of people who get sick in states where mask compliance is low (Florida and Texas) compared to states where mask compliance is high
The measures in the US were to little too late. People STILL don’t follow the guidelines. Hand washing, masks, distance, mixing households, large gatherings. People having covid parties!
I do my bit, and wear a mask to protect you lot. Be nice if everyone else thought the same.
u Yes. As I've said many times before, we have massively... MASSIVELY overreacted to this. At this point, unless I see irrefutable evidence to prove otherwise, it's pretty obvious that the Democrats have been playing politics with this whole stupid thing.
Lap that’s exactly why people not following the rules... riots and protests... debates... election year... people are tired of being locked up...
And yes this is a political virus... even if he’s lying Trump says we’re close to a cure... he’s either bringing Hope or he’s bringing a cure.
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