i don't think it's about sensitivity, a lot of people confuse respect with sensitivity as well as uneducated and sensitivity; personally, I wouldn't make fun of a situation or religion in any possible way because it's a part of someone's life. It's kinda like saying, "they have a magazine on disorders and suicides" and it makes people react however they'll react but most of all feel like they're not being respected because it's a huge thing that's a part of them or make them feel less. To me, I respect everyone whether it's ethnicity, color, religion, communities, you name it. But there's nothing sensitive about someone saying, "I don't like this, please don't do it." It's literally saying, "please respect my beliefs/likes."
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ABSO-fucking-LUTELY !!! They ALREADY get too much (fake) respect in main stream society that equates religion with being a good thing -- If they want to have absurd, ignorant, and ludicrous beliefs, that don't stand up to scrutiny; that's fine... But when they get on their high-horse and condemn others for not buying into their brand of bullshit, AND pretend that their path (one of thousands) has it all right AND pretend to be offended that someone would question those beliefs -- THEN THE ANSWER IS Y-E-S, OF COURSE!! -- We can laugh at it, because it deserves to be ridiculed. It's so crazy, you can't help but laugh!
Of course we do. What we don't have the right to do is kill someone because we got offended. You choose to laugh or not to laugh at things and you also choose to be offended or not offended.
You could make the most offensive cartoon about me or someone or something I love and post it up on every street corner in the world and I won't kill anyone over it. I might say it is not funny to me but I won't kill anyone. If a cartoon causes you to kill someone over it, there is something wrong with you. Nobody has the right not to be offended. If you believe in something as ridiculous as Islam, it's basically impossible not to offend you eventually.
Well either it's all ok or none of it is ok.
I feel the same when people make jokes about race. If you're going to make fun of a race then it's open season on all races.
Now when you joke about these touchy subjects you need to make sure your joke is actually funny.
Cause I've definitely seen some legit offensive stuff that made the person telling it seemed racist, sexist, anti religion, etc...
Telling a crappy joke will get you boos. But telling a crappy joke about a touchy subject will get your ass beat.
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I do think it's important to find the humour in most things, even religion.
But the Charlie Hebdo situation is pretty specific and controversial. I worry about the employees' safety. Is it worth it, to 'fight terrorism'? I don't know how the climate is there, and how the French people think. Are they united, or divided, about this?I really feel for France at the moment. The radical Islamists are terrorising the country because of a cartoon. Muslims are boycotting France for having free speech in their country. It's disgraceful. France is a western country with western values of free speech and equality. If the Muslims don't like that they can fuck off back home (and that goes for other western countries).
Satire and Carricature are critizism of the depicted things. Pointing out mistakes/failures/ and things that just are wrong.
Eg the many cases of child abuse in the catholic church.
I can understand when people are offended but usually that means the pictures are right.
You can argue if the topic is correct and the critizism is valid.
Eg, i don't really understand what the picture you've chosen is going to say, but this could also be the case of my french being not good enough.
The last question would be, if someone says its not okay to make religion part of satire, what is satire allowed to critique? And Why // Why not?ህመም የስሜቱ ክፍል ብቻ ነው ፡፡ በሁኔታው ተጨባጭ ሁኔታ የማይጸና የስነ-ልቦና ሽብር ፍፃሜው የማይቀር ነው ፡፡ ሥቃይና ጭንቀት በቅርቡ የማይታገሱ ይሆናሉ። በድርጊትዎ ምክንያት ቤተሰቦችዎ ደም ይፈስሳሉ። ለድርጊቶችዎ የዘላለም ሥቃይ ይሰማቸዋል.
Since centuries ago, society have the figure of the buffoon. In medieval times, the buffoon is the only one that was allowed to mock everything, and so the only one allowed to mock the king. When a king was tyrannical, the buffoon was killed or censored.
Usually the more prosperous a society is, the more freedom there's for buffoons to laugh, parody or criticize anything, and the more open a society is to receive such criticism, the more open is to reflect about beliefs and ideas, admit possible problems, work on them and keep evolving.I do laugh at religion. Pedo priests
Suicider Jihads
can't do anything but eat and sleep Muslims
Stoning people back to the stone age
Women shouldn't even be seen let alone heard
Recruiting boy scout leaders and ice cream van drivers
Murdering people because they said 1 thing. Religion is trash causes nearly all issues in human society.
The Emperor of Mankind stands with me on this.You can mock whatever you want, including religion.
If people don't like it, they don't have to listen or they can mock back.
It just sounds like freedom of speech to me.Everything, and I do mean EVERYTHING, can and should be used to make humor. If you are offended, go away. Humor does not have the intention to offend, only to make people laugh. Getting offended by a joke is stupid. If your intent is to insult, you are not telling a joke.
I am Christian, male send kinda fat. If we are in a group and you tell jokes about pedophile priests, horny boys and fat guys, I will laugh. Is that simple.Yes its all part of freedom of speech. Its 100% possible to respect believers of all kinds and still make fun 9f each other once in a while. Muslims need to realize that cutting peoples heads off for drawing an unflattering cartoon is an OVER REACTION and simply not how things are done in the western world. Im all for opening our minds to be more accepting of those who follow Islam but freedom of speech is important and no one gets to just ignore that one core value.
Yeah, we have the right to laugh at religion. That's one of the aspects of religious freedom.
It is not right to make fun of someone for their religion, but to mock the aspects of a religion that deserve mocking (e. g. hypocrisy, monetization of religion, etc) is valuable.
A religion that cannot withstand petty mockery is not a religion - it is a cult.I see nothing wrong with it, we all need to lighten up a little :)
I think we should be able to make fun of religion, but we should also be able to make fun of feminism, the LGBT , and any other cause associated with the left-wing of the US and Europe. With that being said, it doesn't interest me to make fun of anyone or anything anymore.
We should have the right to laugh at whatever we want.
I absolutely positively think we have the right to laugh at religious things. As we have the right to laugh at atheistic things, political things, off color jokes, etc.
*HOWEVER*
That doesn't mean I support laughing at them. We have rights, like the right to be rude, but we shouldn't always do them.Absolutely! Without so. eone standing there going "hehe" every once in a while, religion would go insane. Thats whats wrong with the Taliban. These are a people of the deepeat faith on the planet. You cannot argue that these people dont have an incredibly strong dogma. But the problem is that they are so divoted to the literal translation of their faith that they have eliminated humor.
Not only is it permitted, it should be required.No, you have the right to not follow it or not believe in it if you want because that’s on you. It doesn’t give ANYONE the right to laugh or call other people stupid only because you have self hate yourself and because they don't believe in what you believe in.
Sensitive or not be it any religion, mockery is bad it hurts people but killing is not a solution they could have challenged it with law file a complaint or some legal shit so if it was wrong or untasteful mockery they would be compelled to bring it down or apologise for it.
I donot understand why people kill for itAs long as we're talking about *rights*, we have the right to laugh at whatever we damn well please. Maybe it's insensitive, and maybe that warrants criticism in some cases, but we have the right to do it.
No it’s not okay to make fun of religion - it’s okay to say you don’t believe it or follow it - just like I can say I won’t eat at your restaurant but I can’t tell you your cooking is bad
Yeah! LAUGH, and I am laughing!! I am So sick of all this Islamic crap, and they infiltrate western nations, and suddenly, all of those people must submit to Shithead, Sharashit laws? No!! We live there, and those fuckers come, as immigrants, and welcomed, but they turn, and become evil!!
They cannot say that we have to follow their bullshit laws!!
Call it offensive, but them, coming here, and they are offensive thinking we need to change for them!
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