I think modern day feminism most guys (myself included) do not like or agree with. It’s the total opposite of what the root of feminism is (which I am totally for!) modern day feminazies hate men, think they are a problem, hold huge double standards (it’s ok for me to slap him for being rude but how dare he do it to me) and seem to be more misandrists. I’m not behind modern feminism.
Real feminism - equal rights for everyone, fair treatment, equal pay and opportunity for everyone including respect. Everyone matters. The actual root of feminism was really meant to be all inclusive for everyone, it’s just under feminism. This is amazing.
Because it is and always has been a strategy for the destruction of the family unit, and it's working way too well. It tells women they are basically men with tits and vaginas, which is NOT true at all, women are VERY different from men and we should be embracing, not shaming these differences. I see a world where feminine women feel like they are not living up to their potential if they don't compete with men, and good men become too self conscious to ever make a move because they are worried about making women uncomfortable. The sensitive guys get their heads fucked by this propaganda as kids in school, and the asshole guys don't listen anyway, so they continue to be assholes. This feminist messaging doesn't help anyone but the government, they are stacking the double tax revenue and laughing all the way to the bank while we deal with all the issues of broken families and internal conflict.
I don't hate feminism. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only male that doesn't. And I'll even say this being a Dom in front of everybody I don't care. a lot of people think that guys that are Dom's are all chauvinistic pigs. I don't really hate anything or anybody. but I also think there's a difference between feminism and entitlement. But entitlement spreads further than just females for sure. There's a lot of entitled male egoes walking around too. Thinking they deserve everything without any reason or cause. Might despise that behavior but I don't hate them. And I definitely don't hate feminism. Unless they use it for entitlement but then I just despise it, no hate.
My issue with feminism fits into two categories, state involvement, and foundational beliefs.
I don't think something like feminism should be sponsored by the state. The fact that it has entire branches of most governments under the direct control of its ideology makes it dangerous, and I would say the same thing if any other organization or ideology did this as well, as many do.
The other issue is that it's founding belief is that men and women don't have a fair social balance with each other and that the favor always goes to men, and therefore that any favor that goes to women is not in favor of women, but of equality. It is collectivistic, treating all women and all men as the same. It claims to be for equality, but all of its actions demonstrate quite the opposite.
It feels like it's not about equality anymore but its about supressing men and like everything against men only. It started for a good cause no doubt but now most of the feminists are like "Men are like this", "why do men had to this?", "Why are men like that", "free tiddies" (i still don't get it how freeing tiddies would help in upliftment of women and empower women in middle east). Exceptions are always there, but i am saying this from what i encounter on social media.
I have never met or known a feminist in my life. I have never dealt with any problems related to feminism or feminists. I am not a feminist.
It seems to me that those on the internet complaining about feminism live in an alternative parallel dimension, where they currently have gender wars and it is called the 3. th wave or 4. th wave feminism. Then again, I myself have not been in such warzones ever.
The most I have encountered are sexist gender roles, general sexism, gender favoring (in either direction), REVERSED gender pay gap (I was literally being paid 17% less for doing the same job!) and propaganda.
I also personally know someone, who did one job and later a girl was hired for the same position and she got paid more money for doing the same job as he did.
I don't hate it for what it claims to be, I hate it for what it does.. My fifth rule, mind a person's behavior, not just what they say, their behavior will betray their lies..
- dishonesty when it comes to domestic violence, causing 100% of funding to be women only, when statistically it's 50/50
- dishonesty when it comes to rape, going so far as to prevent man from being included in the definition of rape, allowing female rapists and child molesters to get away with it.
The wage gap myth
The idiotic notions that fathers are not equal to mothers.
There are dozens more.. Bottom line, right now feminism does more harm than good.
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If you want to hear from a REAL feminist, One that understands that her own group is doing very wrong right now. Listen to Christina Hoff Sommers. Her and Cassie Jaye are literally the only two feminists i have any respect for.
Because it's a man hating movement that put the fault of everything, but existing and made up, on men. It doesn't want equality, it wants superiority. It doesn't care about men at all, and anyone bringing up men issues is immediately attacked but a horde of feminists saying that talking about that "undermine women's issues". It's nothing more than hate, insults, canceling, misandry. Hating men and doing everything possible to damage them.
And to those who say it's not "real feminism", well, you're wrong. It is. It is exactly what the movement is about today. Exactly because the "real feminists", as they like to call themselves, never say a thing against the "bad ones". So they took over, and made it their own. This is their ideas you see everywhere, their ideas that medias and politics listen to, their ideas that are applied. They are the modern feminism.
Who said, and why do you assume that? I don't have a CLUE, what your PERSONAL DEFINITION, of "Feminism" is, so tell me that, and we might be able to chat. I assume it has to do with EQUALITY, equal pay, respect, and some of the often-assumed things. But others add other things, to "Their" definition!
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Definition of feminism 1: the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes 2: organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests (merriam webster, 2017)
@Asker And Yet, some "Feminists" HATE MEN, and openly denounce men, even when those men support the equal rights, equal pay!! Or is that more of the "Sexual aspect" of "Feminism" which you avoided?
@ Asker I'm not 'arguing' with you, or disagreeing, or even at all against what FEMINISM IS!! If you are going to post, cut and paste BS, EXPECT people to call you out on it! I RESPECT WOMEN, and I KNOW A LOT OF FEMINISTS, and they are AMAZING! But THEY DEFINE WHAT THEY BELIEVE, THEMSELVES, and don't just cut and paste BS from a website! Live it, choose it, or you will NEVER have it!! You have to decide what you want, and need, and who you are, if you are a "Feminist"!! They respect themselves and DEMAND respect from others, and they EARN THAT RESPECT, with what they believe, and do, and never half-ass it!! Do you understand what I am saying?
again, that's the merriam webster definition. if you want to call it as bs, sure, that's your opinion. i'm just giving you the official dictionary definition you asked for. you are clearly trying to argue with me sir, and i don't want to.
@Asker I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU, PERSONALLY, AS A WOMAN, think it means, TO YOU, and not just the definitions, that some MAN WROTE IN A BOOK!! Do you get it? I am asking YOU, as a PERSON, because I want to know women, and how they think about this, and what bothers them, that men say, and do, BECAUSE MOST OF US, HONESTLY DON'T KNOW! Forget the 'definitions' and tell me, AS YOU, what YOU think, and feel! THAT is my point!!
ok here's my definition. feminism can be divided into two definitions for me. the first is advocating for women's rights to be considered as equal to men, and the second is advocating for women's rights while being a misandrist. but i'm guessing you want this definition so that you can argue with someone online about how feminism sucks and i don't want to be that someone.
@Asker Thank you, and NO, NOT AT ALL wanting to "ARGUE" with you!! OMG!! I TOTALLY SUPPORT women's equality!! I am not that ASSHOLE that you imagine, and assume!! I HONESTLY believe that women are so much better, at so many things, like understanding, and communicating, caring, showing love, and compassion, than men, that I have often apologized to past girlfriends, and compliment them, for understanding me, and helping me be, a BETTER MAN, and better understand and love, and respect them!! I know you have probably had a bunch of my gender, that you absolutely hate, that disrespected you. I apologize for those knuckle-dragging monkey idiots, but I am not like them. Please, let go of your past, and your bias, toward my gender, accept my apology, and maybe find a good friend, that cares, and wants to know, and understand.
@jacksmy i have a ton of male friends and they're all really respectful and treat me like anyone else. it's just that the guys on G@G have a track record of being very misogynistic and very bigoted, so its not really the bias i have against men, its the men on G@G. i'm glad you aren't one of them though.
@Asker I agree, and I HATE, so much, that so many of my gender, ESPECIALLY THE YOUNGER ONES, still post sexist, judgmental hate, and think women are property, in some twisted way! WTF? 2021, and there are still, 20-somthing guys, that just don't understand equal rights, and RESPECTING women? I am soooooo sorry that you have to deal with those, and their Knuckle-dragging ignorance!! My Grandma taught me, at a young age, how to respect women, and be a 'gentleman'. So sad, that so few know that, now.
To me it's a problem of language. Most people are pushing for egalitarianism (fairness and balance between the genders). That is often mislabelled as feminism. Feminism is the advancement of women to any end, including to the detriment of men. To what I see, when people get surprised that men are against feminism its not that men are against egalitarianism but that the are against the detriment of their own gender.
Saying women are equal to men is like saying children are equal to adults.
And that's what's next, they've already got kids in kindergarten deciding to change their gender. I see all of that shit as a logical off-shoot of feminist ideology.
How many generations of kids are we going to have to permanently FUCK UP just so we can indulge the social theories of a bunch of demented transgender academics who anyone would KNOW not to trust around kids if they ever got a good look at them in the light of day. They literally look and talk and act exactly like demons wearing human suits, and these are the people that you get called a Nazi incel bigot for not agreeing with.
Being an adult makes you an adult. Education helps make more informed choices. I know I don’t think like a child- neither does my girlfriend. We haven’t since we were children. Sorry hater- start treating people like humans.
Despite education, humans have to mentally develop too into adults. There’s enough information on development one can get an advanced degree in it too. Oh by the way changing one’s gender has nothing to do with feminism. It’s due to increased gay rights. Believe it or not, most women want their kids to act like the gender God assigned them. Stop the bs and stop generalizing everyone.
Also- how long did it take men to civilize society? Hundreds even thousands of years? Yeah they didn’t always succeeed either. Just because you’re expected to treat women as humans instead of livestock doesn’t mean all of our successes are for nothing. Just like it doesn’t excuse all our mistakes, which are bound to happen. So yes with new ideas, bring some mistakes. However, it also improves other things too. Be a decent person. God loves all of us and wants all of us to live up to our total potential.
@bananaman177 since when did women and children have the same iqs. what the fuck is wrong with you. women are the caretakers of children, and can double as the breadwinners of the house, just like men can.
@Shuttlebus78 I'm not advocating that we treat anyone like cattle, but handicapping men just so that women can compete is turning us all into cattle. Women are making gains in society but men and boys are falling behind, which limits us all since men have greater potential. Why do you think girls mature faster than boys? Because they don't have as far to go. They mature faster up to a point and then stop, while boys catch up and then surpass them. You'll notice when you hit that point, if ever.
It is precisely because women are optimized as the caretakers of children that they remain big children themselves their whole lives. And yes, you can go out and be a breadwinner, but that doesn't mean a man couldn't do your job a lot better than you can:
@bananaman177 oh my gosh you are the stupidest person i've had to talk to on this website. my mother, a doctor, made a shit ton more than my father did, and took care of us at the same time. she did her job a lot better than the men in her field and is highly established in her field. and that dumbass photo of the men putting armstrong on the moon, you know who stopped wwii by discovering nuclear power? marie curie. you're just another man that's upset he can't do jack shit and blames it on women.
I dislike because it deny's a mans right to be masculine and invalides his perspective. It ignores the challenge of male/female relationship and puts all blame on males for everything in sight. And it treats us like they probably feel... like we don't belong and the world be better without us.
Its a perspective with some truth in it and a lot of distortion.
@Shuttlebus78 agree, we are a society that generates divisiveness rather than seeing understanding, acceptance, healing. the very question is divisive. I dislike a lot of male behavior, weve gone way down hill in a few decades.
Because modern feminism hates me. It is out to GET at men instead of striving for true equality for both genders. Feminism wants the benefits of equality, but not equal responsibility. They want to have their cake and eat it too. That's why I'm against it. It has lead to the destruction of MANY nuclear families and possible nuclear families.
I personally don't think it's about hating feminism. In fact i'm 100% sure most men support womens rights and even equality. But as has been said several times in the comments todays "feminism" is no longer about those subjects, it has become a P. C. term that is pulled out of context for the slightest issue, misconception or dissagreement between men and todays "feminists".
Feminism has lost it's true meaning in my eyes.
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because we know you women are strong.
you go though labor and have babies, have to deal with creeps, deal with things men don't have to like sexual assault and attacks and you still keep your chin up and go through life as well you can. you don't need feminist movements, we love you all exactly the way you all are. it's a toxic movement that attempts to replace man. there are two genders for a reason, we are all equal but we're not really... equilibrium we balance each other out. It needs to stay that way. don't believe the gender wage myth and all that it's all based off of false facts.
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there are just some things that differentiate us for the better. some things women are better at then men and vice versa. it's a beautiful thing.
I prefer my women submissive, in the kitchen, and perhaps also pregnant.
Honestly though, I'm not a fan of my partner constantly undermining the marriage by thinking she has to act as a man does because muh equality. That not allowing her to be a whore is a patriarchal racist conception, etc. Frankfurt school Marxist ideas aren't exactly beneficial to the nuclear family.
I don’t think most women act like men. I think most of theM just want to be able to take care of themselves and their families if need be without getting screwed over in the process.
You socialized men and boys for the past 50 years to be feminists. Feminism does not work. Yes I openly am an opponent of feminism. It took education and job oppertunities from men and boys and gave gave them to woman. Then the society turns around and complains about the same men and boys not being economically viable. Give me a break. You took from my mouth and gave it someone else because she's a girl or woman. It is a zero sum game. If you don't invest in men and boys you will not get economically viable men on the otherside and your society will inplode. Immigration will not save it your society will implode. You created an upper caste of woman and underclass of men. This is unacceptable. Reverse course on this feminist nonsense because it is nonsense.
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Feminism has become destructive. Its not about fixing wrongs its about attaining power by vilifying and attacking men. Because of this they will never admit that parity has been achieved. Humans (even females) won't give up the power that they have attained. Its the same thing with the Democrats. They will never admit that parity has been achieved because then they won't be able to politically divide us. It will never end. They will start focusing on things that aren't really issues like the gender pay gap and insist that it is real and not because men and women do very different jobs.
They will also begin to focus on minor issues and blow them up into huge issues
I don't hate feminism, i love women but i hate unfair feminism. Some women say they want equality but what the actually want is more power over men and that's something I'm against.
But true equality I'm all for but i feel like we are unequally equal, this probably doesn't make any sense to most people but what I'm trying to say that their are pro's and cons to both genders those should be balance to an equal scale (this can't be 100% measured tho)
I do not "hate" feminism but find it amusing. The most strident of these creatures are usually stridently ugly and this is their way to pretend they care about how males "exploit" women. If guys were to bed them regularly. they'd all forget about... what was that again?
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I think modern day feminism most guys (myself included) do not like or agree with. It’s the total opposite of what the root of feminism is (which I am totally for!) modern day feminazies hate men, think they are a problem, hold huge double standards (it’s ok for me to slap him for being rude but how dare he do it to me) and seem to be more misandrists. I’m not behind modern feminism.
Real feminism - equal rights for everyone, fair treatment, equal pay and opportunity for everyone including respect. Everyone matters. The actual root of feminism was really meant to be all inclusive for everyone, it’s just under feminism. This is amazing.
Because it is and always has been a strategy for the destruction of the family unit, and it's working way too well. It tells women they are basically men with tits and vaginas, which is NOT true at all, women are VERY different from men and we should be embracing, not shaming these differences. I see a world where feminine women feel like they are not living up to their potential if they don't compete with men, and good men become too self conscious to ever make a move because they are worried about making women uncomfortable. The sensitive guys get their heads fucked by this propaganda as kids in school, and the asshole guys don't listen anyway, so they continue to be assholes. This feminist messaging doesn't help anyone but the government, they are stacking the double tax revenue and laughing all the way to the bank while we deal with all the issues of broken families and internal conflict.
I don't hate feminism. And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only male that doesn't. And I'll even say this being a Dom in front of everybody I don't care. a lot of people think that guys that are Dom's are all chauvinistic pigs. I don't really hate anything or anybody. but I also think there's a difference between feminism and entitlement. But entitlement spreads further than just females for sure. There's a lot of entitled male egoes walking around too. Thinking they deserve everything without any reason or cause. Might despise that behavior but I don't hate them. And I definitely don't hate feminism. Unless they use it for entitlement but then I just despise it, no hate.
My issue with feminism fits into two categories, state involvement, and foundational beliefs.
I don't think something like feminism should be sponsored by the state. The fact that it has entire branches of most governments under the direct control of its ideology makes it dangerous, and I would say the same thing if any other organization or ideology did this as well, as many do.
The other issue is that it's founding belief is that men and women don't have a fair social balance with each other and that the favor always goes to men, and therefore that any favor that goes to women is not in favor of women, but of equality. It is collectivistic, treating all women and all men as the same. It claims to be for equality, but all of its actions demonstrate quite the opposite.
It feels like it's not about equality anymore but its about supressing men and like everything against men only. It started for a good cause no doubt but now most of the feminists are like "Men are like this", "why do men had to this?", "Why are men like that", "free tiddies" (i still don't get it how freeing tiddies would help in upliftment of women and empower women in middle east).
Exceptions are always there, but i am saying this from what i encounter on social media.
I do not hate feminism!
I have never met or known a feminist in my life.
I have never dealt with any problems related to feminism or feminists.
I am not a feminist.
It seems to me that those on the internet complaining about feminism live in an alternative parallel dimension, where they currently have gender wars and it is called the 3. th wave or 4. th wave feminism. Then again, I myself have not been in such warzones ever.
The most I have encountered are sexist gender roles, general sexism, gender favoring (in either direction), REVERSED gender pay gap (I was literally being paid 17% less for doing the same job!) and propaganda.
I also personally know someone, who did one job and later a girl was hired for the same position and she got paid more money for doing the same job as he did.
I don't hate it for what it claims to be, I hate it for what it does.. My fifth rule, mind a person's behavior, not just what they say, their behavior will betray their lies..
- dishonesty when it comes to domestic violence, causing 100% of funding to be women only, when statistically it's 50/50
- dishonesty when it comes to rape, going so far as to prevent man from being included in the definition of rape, allowing female rapists and child molesters to get away with it.
The wage gap myth
The idiotic notions that fathers are not equal to mothers.
There are dozens more.. Bottom line, right now feminism does more harm than good.
If you want to hear from a REAL feminist, One that understands that her own group is doing very wrong right now. Listen to Christina Hoff Sommers. Her and Cassie Jaye are literally the only two feminists i have any respect for.
Because it's a man hating movement that put the fault of everything, but existing and made up, on men. It doesn't want equality, it wants superiority. It doesn't care about men at all, and anyone bringing up men issues is immediately attacked but a horde of feminists saying that talking about that "undermine women's issues".
It's nothing more than hate, insults, canceling, misandry. Hating men and doing everything possible to damage them.
And to those who say it's not "real feminism", well, you're wrong. It is. It is exactly what the movement is about today. Exactly because the "real feminists", as they like to call themselves, never say a thing against the "bad ones". So they took over, and made it their own.
This is their ideas you see everywhere, their ideas that medias and politics listen to, their ideas that are applied. They are the modern feminism.
Who said, and why do you assume that?
I don't have a CLUE, what your PERSONAL DEFINITION, of "Feminism" is, so tell me that, and we might be able to chat.
I assume it has to do with EQUALITY, equal pay, respect, and some of the often-assumed things.
But others add other things, to "Their" definition!
Definition of feminism
1: the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes
2: organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests
(merriam webster, 2017)
@Asker And Yet, some "Feminists" HATE MEN, and openly denounce men, even when those men support the equal rights, equal pay!!
Or is that more of the "Sexual aspect" of "Feminism" which you avoided?
listen, that was just the merriam webster definition and i just wanted your two cents on it. stop trying to argue with me
@ Asker I'm not 'arguing' with you, or disagreeing, or even at all against what FEMINISM IS!!
If you are going to post, cut and paste BS, EXPECT people to call you out on it!
I RESPECT WOMEN, and I KNOW A LOT OF FEMINISTS, and they are AMAZING! But THEY DEFINE WHAT THEY BELIEVE, THEMSELVES, and don't just cut and paste BS from a website!
Live it, choose it, or you will NEVER have it!! You have to decide what you want, and need, and who you are, if you are a "Feminist"!!
They respect themselves and DEMAND respect from others, and they EARN THAT RESPECT, with what they believe, and do, and never half-ass it!!
Do you understand what I am saying?
again, that's the merriam webster definition. if you want to call it as bs, sure, that's your opinion. i'm just giving you the official dictionary definition you asked for. you are clearly trying to argue with me sir, and i don't want to.
@Asker I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU, PERSONALLY, AS A WOMAN, think it means, TO YOU, and not just the definitions, that some MAN WROTE IN A BOOK!!
Do you get it? I am asking YOU, as a PERSON, because I want to know women, and how they think about this, and what bothers them, that men say, and do, BECAUSE MOST OF US, HONESTLY DON'T KNOW!
Forget the 'definitions' and tell me, AS YOU, what YOU think, and feel!
THAT is my point!!
ok here's my definition. feminism can be divided into two definitions for me. the first is advocating for women's rights to be considered as equal to men, and the second is advocating for women's rights while being a misandrist.
but i'm guessing you want this definition so that you can argue with someone online about how feminism sucks and i don't want to be that someone.
@Asker Thank you, and NO, NOT AT ALL wanting to "ARGUE" with you!!
OMG!! I TOTALLY SUPPORT women's equality!!
I am not that ASSHOLE that you imagine, and assume!!
I HONESTLY believe that women are so much better, at so many things, like understanding, and communicating, caring, showing love, and compassion, than men, that I have often apologized to past girlfriends, and compliment them, for understanding me, and helping me be, a BETTER MAN, and better understand and love, and respect them!!
I know you have probably had a bunch of my gender, that you absolutely hate, that disrespected you. I apologize for those knuckle-dragging monkey idiots, but I am not like them.
Please, let go of your past, and your bias, toward my gender, accept my apology, and maybe find a good friend, that cares, and wants to know, and understand.
@jacksmy i have a ton of male friends and they're all really respectful and treat me like anyone else. it's just that the guys on G@G have a track record of being very misogynistic and very bigoted, so its not really the bias i have against men, its the men on G@G. i'm glad you aren't one of them though.
@Asker I agree, and I HATE, so much, that so many of my gender, ESPECIALLY THE YOUNGER ONES, still post sexist, judgmental hate, and think women are property, in some twisted way! WTF? 2021, and there are still, 20-somthing guys, that just don't understand equal rights, and RESPECTING women?
I am soooooo sorry that you have to deal with those, and their Knuckle-dragging ignorance!!
My Grandma taught me, at a young age, how to respect women, and be a 'gentleman'. So sad, that so few know that, now.
To me it's a problem of language. Most people are pushing for egalitarianism (fairness and balance between the genders). That is often mislabelled as feminism. Feminism is the advancement of women to any end, including to the detriment of men. To what I see, when people get surprised that men are against feminism its not that men are against egalitarianism but that the are against the detriment of their own gender.
Saying women are equal to men is like saying children are equal to adults.
And that's what's next, they've already got kids in kindergarten deciding to change their gender. I see all of that shit as a logical off-shoot of feminist ideology.
How many generations of kids are we going to have to permanently FUCK UP just so we can indulge the social theories of a bunch of demented transgender academics who anyone would KNOW not to trust around kids if they ever got a good look at them in the light of day. They literally look and talk and act exactly like demons wearing human suits, and these are the people that you get called a Nazi incel bigot for not agreeing with.
Women are more educated than children.
Wasn’t always the case, but it is more so now. Time to start treating them like people.
@Shuttlebus78 If you educate a child enough, you think that makes them an adult? Think about it.
Actually, you probably do think some stupid shit like that...
Being an adult makes you an adult. Education helps make more informed choices. I know I don’t think like a child- neither does my girlfriend. We haven’t since we were children. Sorry hater- start treating people like humans.
You obviously know very little about development.
@Shuttlebus78 You probably are equal to a woman. I definitely don't think of you as a man, or an adult.
Despite education, humans have to mentally develop too into adults. There’s enough information on development one can get an advanced degree in it too. Oh by the way changing one’s gender has nothing to do with feminism. It’s due to increased gay rights. Believe it or not, most women want their kids to act like the gender God assigned them. Stop the bs and stop generalizing everyone.
Also- how long did it take men to civilize society? Hundreds even thousands of years? Yeah they didn’t always succeeed either. Just because you’re expected to treat women as humans instead of livestock doesn’t mean all of our successes are for nothing. Just like it doesn’t excuse all our mistakes, which are bound to happen. So yes with new ideas, bring some mistakes. However, it also improves other things too. Be a decent person. God loves all of us and wants all of us to live up to our total potential.
@bananaman177 since when did women and children have the same iqs. what the fuck is wrong with you. women are the caretakers of children, and can double as the breadwinners of the house, just like men can.
@Shuttlebus78 I'm not advocating that we treat anyone like cattle, but handicapping men just so that women can compete is turning us all into cattle. Women are making gains in society but men and boys are falling behind, which limits us all since men have greater potential. Why do you think girls mature faster than boys? Because they don't have as far to go. They mature faster up to a point and then stop, while boys catch up and then surpass them. You'll notice when you hit that point, if ever.
It is precisely because women are optimized as the caretakers of children that they remain big children themselves their whole lives. And yes, you can go out and be a breadwinner, but that doesn't mean a man couldn't do your job a lot better than you can:
Let me show you how "equal" you aren't:
@bananaman177 oh my gosh you are the stupidest person i've had to talk to on this website. my mother, a doctor, made a shit ton more than my father did, and took care of us at the same time. she did her job a lot better than the men in her field and is highly established in her field. and that dumbass photo of the men putting armstrong on the moon, you know who stopped wwii by discovering nuclear power? marie curie. you're just another man that's upset he can't do jack shit and blames it on women.
Hate is too strong a word.
I dislike because it deny's a mans right to be masculine and invalides his perspective. It ignores the challenge of male/female relationship and puts all blame on males for everything in sight. And it treats us like they probably feel... like we don't belong and the world be better without us.
Its a perspective with some truth in it and a lot of distortion.
Maybe you should start disliking even male dominated groups who do the same? I think society has a shitty way of pitting everyone against each other.
@Shuttlebus78 agree, we are a society that generates divisiveness rather than seeing understanding, acceptance, healing. the very question is divisive. I dislike a lot of male behavior, weve gone way down hill in a few decades.
Because modern feminism hates me. It is out to GET at men instead of striving for true equality for both genders. Feminism wants the benefits of equality, but not equal responsibility. They want to have their cake and eat it too. That's why I'm against it. It has lead to the destruction of MANY nuclear families and possible nuclear families.
I personally don't think it's about hating feminism. In fact i'm 100% sure most men support womens rights and even equality. But as has been said several times in the comments todays "feminism" is no longer about those subjects, it has become a P. C. term that is pulled out of context for the slightest issue, misconception or dissagreement between men and todays "feminists".
Feminism has lost it's true meaning in my eyes.
because we know you women are strong.
you go though labor and have babies, have to deal with creeps, deal with things men don't have to like sexual assault and attacks and you still keep your chin up and go through life
as well you can.
you don't need feminist movements, we love you all exactly the way you all are.
it's a toxic movement that attempts to replace man. there are two genders for a reason, we are all equal but we're not really... equilibrium we balance each other out. It needs to stay that way.
don't believe the gender wage myth and all that it's all based off of false facts.
there are just some things that differentiate us for the better. some things women are better at then men and vice versa. it's a beautiful thing.
I prefer my women submissive, in the kitchen, and perhaps also pregnant.
Honestly though, I'm not a fan of my partner constantly undermining the marriage by thinking she has to act as a man does because muh equality. That not allowing her to be a whore is a patriarchal racist conception, etc. Frankfurt school Marxist ideas aren't exactly beneficial to the nuclear family.
HA. Okie.
I don’t think most women act like men. I think most of theM just want to be able to take care of themselves and their families if need be without getting screwed over in the process.
@Shuttlebus78 I'm speaking of feminism, not of most women.
Of course. Nobody wants to get screwed over especially by their spouse.
Sure you do but once it comes time to be responsible for them financially and in other ways you say it isn’t fair. Grow up.
@Shuttlebus78 Not true. I prefer they tend the house while I work.
You socialized men and boys for the past 50 years to be feminists. Feminism does not work. Yes I openly am an opponent of feminism. It took education and job oppertunities from men and boys and gave gave them to woman. Then the society turns around and complains about the same men and boys not being economically viable. Give me a break. You took from my mouth and gave it someone else because she's a girl or woman. It is a zero sum game. If you don't invest in men and boys you will not get economically viable men on the otherside and your society will inplode. Immigration will not save it your society will implode. You created an upper caste of woman and underclass of men. This is unacceptable. Reverse course on this feminist nonsense because it is nonsense.
Feminism has become destructive. Its not about fixing wrongs its about attaining power by vilifying and attacking men. Because of this they will never admit that parity has been achieved. Humans (even females) won't give up the power that they have attained. Its the same thing with the Democrats. They will never admit that parity has been achieved because then they won't be able to politically divide us. It will never end. They will start focusing on things that aren't really issues like the gender pay gap and insist that it is real and not because men and women do very different jobs.
They will also begin to focus on minor issues and blow them up into huge issues
I don't hate feminism, i love women but i hate unfair feminism. Some women say they want equality but what the actually want is more power over men and that's something I'm against.
But true equality I'm all for but i feel like we are unequally equal, this probably doesn't make any sense to most people but what I'm trying to say that their are pro's and cons to both genders those should be balance to an equal scale (this can't be 100% measured tho)
I do not "hate" feminism but find it amusing. The most strident of these creatures are usually stridently ugly and this is their way to pretend they care about how males "exploit" women. If guys were to bed them regularly. they'd all forget about... what was that again?