lol No. We train in them because U. S. Police have NO LEGAL OBLIGATION TO PROTECT US, unless we're incarcerated. Sound too absurd to be true?
Behold!
“U. S. judge says law enforcement officers had no legal duty to protect Parkland students during mass shooting”
21 December 2018
「U. S. District Judge Beth Bloom said neither the school nor sheriff’s deputies had a legal obligation to protect students from the alleged shooter, Nikolas Cruz, who is accused of killing 17 people at the school Feb. 14. Her reasoning? The students were not in state custody, the Sun Sentinel reported.」
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2018/12/21/us-judge-says-law-enforcement-officers-had-no-legal-duty-protect-parkland-students-during-mass-shooting/
“Officers Had No Duty to Protect Students in Parkland Massacre, Judge Rules”
18 December 2018
「“Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and associate dean at the University of Florida School of Law. “Police can watch someone attack you, refuse to intervene and not violate the Constitution.”
The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the government has only a duty to protect persons who are “in custody,” he pointed out.」
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/us/parkland-shooting-lawsuit-ruling-police.html
“Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone”
28 June 2005
「The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.」
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html
And given law-enforcement's increasing militarization, now-famous abuses of their employers (the taxpaying citizenry)'s civil-liberties, and pushes to defund them, people need to be able to defend their homes & neighborhoods, right?
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Americans have unfortunately been led to believe that we live in a much more aggressively violent and confrontational world than we even remotely do. So it’s not so much that people are cowards as much as they’ve been misled to the point of paranoia. Having a gun is whatever, I don’t really care if you want to have a weapon for the unlikely event of a Code Red, but it’s the idea that you’re extremely vulnerable without it --realistically speaking, not in the aforementioned unlikely event of a do-or-die confrontation — on a day-to-day basis that troubles me. Obviously you would want to carry 100% of the time if you have the mentality that you’ll need it, you can’t just guess when shit is going to jump off... I guess I’d just like to see more acknowledgement from gun enthusiasts that they’ll likely never, ever need to use their gun in a violent situation. I just feel like we perpetuate this fallacy that we live in a war zone with danger at every turn, that’s the big issue for me. Most danger can be mitigated with your fists, and that’s kind of my biggest thing, aversion of fistfights through gun brandishing. Somebody challenges you with hands, whether they’re right or wrong, be a man and answer with your own hands, and if you get dropped, so be it, handle your shit like a G at all times. Somebody comes waving a pistol at you, they have bad intentions, open fire if you want. But don’t pull a gun out because you’re afraid of a punch in the nose, that’s an extreme life violation to me.
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There are so many ways we can go with this...
Let's start with a little thing called "the constitution". It guarantees the right to own a firearm. Don't you learn that in schools nowadays? Or is it all transgender and rainbow?
America was built by people carrying guns for defense. Even as we expanded our and settled down and became more civilized, people still had guns. It's not changed. More people came, and since everyone else has guns, so do they.
If you want to ban the 2nd amendment you have to be blessed with some magical rainbow powers for sure. What's gonna happen is that the law abiding citizens who follow the rules will turn in their gun. The criminals who obviously don't care about the laws will keep their guns. This way you will have the situation of lots of European countries, where they live with the threat of gangsta dumbasses who have a gun, but they can't defend themselves.
On the actual question "cowards " I don't think I rightly understand what you mean, but if a guy or girl wants to be able to defend him or herself I don't think that makes coward. People who have kids are wanting to defend their kids too.
If anyone threatens me or my family, I won't hesitate to empty my clip in their worthless body, thus eliminating the immediate threat to me and my loved ones, and also rid the society of a piece of human trash that is clearly not needed for anything
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ABSOLUTELY. No other western country has such a gun obsession. The problem is everyone buys a gun because everyone else has one. It's just snowballed out of control. They all believe they can play the hero When the time rises but truth is most just pee their pants. The reality is that gun they bought to stop the home invasion that will never actually happen will most likely be used to kill a neighbour over a barking dog.
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What is there about owning a gun that makes a person a coward?
That's funny. The people who are afraid of guns calling those who want to retain the right to own them cowards.
A person can support the self-evident, unalienable right as a sovereign human being to own guns if they choose to, even if they choose not to own a gun.
Those who want to outlaw gun rights think government should have the right to dictate every aspect of their lives. They want to force others to comply with their beliefs. They love increasingly restrictive laws, which require brute force by police. They want to live under rulers and don't understand the concept of government "of the people, for the people and by the people." They want to be treated as children by a government that consider to be wise, benevolent and god-like. They fear and distrust their neighbors and other human beings. They are the ultimate cowards who would rather live in safe cages than be free. The problem is, in order to make themselves feel safer, they would force everyone to live in cages.
Fear, fear, fear. There are endless examples of fear being used to manipulate people in to surrendering their rights and enslaving their neighbors.
Lastly, I continually wonder why non-Americans are so concerned about the rights of Americans. I guess it's a result of constant propaganda/brainwashing by mainstream media. The purpose being to make those people feel good about their own lack of liberty.This is a topic that I have been quite vocal about for years. The person that buys a gun, pistol or rifle, or even shotgun, with no training whatsoever, will either kill themselves or be responsible for the death of someone else. They have no clue how to store a gun and keep it locked away from children.
Without proper training on how to clean and store a gun, actually firing the gun to get the feel of it, in a controlled environment, such as a shooting range, you are a danger to yourself and others. It's one thing, however, to shoot at paper targets and actually shooting another human being. THAT is, after all, the purpose of buying a weapon.
As a trained sniper for the Marine Corps, when I was sent to Vietnam, I assure you, it's no easy thing to take a life. Aside from the claims of others, it doesn't get easier if you have to kill more than one. I joined the Coast Guard to save lives, but my dad taught me to shoot, both rifle and shotgun. With a 22 caliber, I was able to shoot the cap off a Clorox bottle from 50 yards. When my instructors saw me shoot at the range they sent me to Camp LeJune for combat training.
You had better be damn sure you are willing to kill someone that is so desperate they want to steal your belongings. The only reason I can think of for carrying a weapon, either in the open or concealed, would be to protect your life, but by the time you are accosted and understand what's happening, they have killed you and taken the weapon. It is then another illegal firearm in the hands of a criminal.
Think long and hard before you buy a gun.Not necessarily. I live in a rural area in which firearms are upmost important... my closest neighbor is about 6 miles out either way. Unfortunately between, poachers, trespassers, addicts, and thieves owning firearms is our only way of guaranteed protection of our family and property. It takes responders about 15-30 minutes to arrive regarding any call. Not to mention during rough winter months it’s our link to source of food. So for us, no it’s not cowardice behavior. And before you pull the automatic/semi-automatic debate, I’ll address that too: group of crackheads on bath salts in your backyard (that’s happened) and packs of coyotes stalking you in the woods. There’s nothing wrong with owning any type of fire farms as long as you’re educated in use as well as mentally capable. 👌 sorry but it’s our way of life here in the south.
Well for me personally, I can say I live way way way out in the country and I don't think the cop could even find it, not to mention it would take him forever to get here.
I don't think most robbers and thieves will choose my place thou, because of that exact reason, but if they do, I will fire upon them, no question about it.
I don't think that's because I'm a coward, I just don't really care to deal with some dumbass who wants to steal my stuff and tie me up and leave (or whatever) so it's just easier to be able to kill them fast and easy.
Mostly I use my firearms for protection from predators thou. I have chickens and in my area we have stuff like bobcats and stuff. If I let my birdies run free (when I'm home) I always stay outside with a rifle.
Oh and besides... 2and amendment... but guess that's a given...
Take careCowards, in what way?
Like YOU, COWARD, asking as "anonymous"? WHY? If you are so sure of your belief, man up, and post, so people can comment, and debate, if you are a real man, and not a coward!
What happened to debate, and disagreeing, agreeably, and discussing things?
Many collect, and restore old rifles. Some like to hunt, and others like to target shoot. HUNDREDS of MILLIONS, YES, LITERALLY, guns, owned by Law-Abiding citizens, that have NEVER committed a Crime, ever! Some, don't even have PARKING TICKETS!!
Why ask this, in such an offensive way? Are you just some "anti-gun" Douche-bag that just thinks everyone should believe what you do, and don't bother to try to understand what you are asking?Not at all.
America is a big place and, in rural parts of the country, a gun may be necessary for survival or even be a tool.
Where I live in rural Missouri, there are meth heads and other criminals because people are poor or strung out on drugs. Good luck on the cops appearing in less than 20 minutes.
We have to worry about potentially lethal animals...
... or hunt for meat if we can't afford to eat decently.
Finally, on a farm, it may be necessary to put down a sick animal that is suffering - a quick shot to the head is a euthanasia that alleviates the animal from suffering an otherwise miserable prolonged dying process.Literally only an ignorant person/idiot would think this, ESPECIALLY after the last three months. The Founding Fathers were a hell of a lot smarter and courageous than some flowery progressive pussy who thinks people should just be at the mercy of tyrannical governments, including the United States government right now. Guerrilla warfare goes a long way, and an entire nation (not counting the coasts) of armed and angry Americans does a lot to keep totalitarianism at bay... Unless you can indoctrinate them with neo-liberal bullshit.
Why would that make them cowards? Is it cowardly to have a first aid kit? Insurance? An Umbrella? Are other nations cowards for having police and military? Are they cowards for relying entirely on them because they don't want to risk getting their hands dirty?
Being prepared for a situation doesn't make you a coward and how any one would come to that conclusion is beyond me. One would have a better argument stating that any one who doesn't want a gun is a fool because they think that reality will some how stop being reality i. e. bad people do bad things and some times good people need to step up and defend themselves or others.I think it can go both ways. I think of definition of a coward, which is a person who lacks the courage to do or endure unpleasant or dangerous things. Someone who uses a gun is brave enough to use one as it is quite dangerous, but could be using it out of self-defense - and sometimes self-defense comes with fear. I can understand how owning a gun would help one feel protected so they are less fearful. I don’t think it totally eliminates fear. (This does not apply to those who use guns for hunting)
I wish people didn’t have to resort to using guns or any kind of weapon at all, but this ain’t utopia.For normal people, pulling a gun on someone is probably one of the scariest things they'd ever do. It's hardly for wimps.
But then most people don't own a gun with the intention of pulling it on someone. There are all kinds of reasons for owning a gun.
Would you ask the same question about all the other countries that have as high or higher gun ownership rates as the US? I doubt it. Are Canadians cowards because they have a similar gun ownership rate? What about the Swiss or Finns who have a very significantly higher gun ownership rate?
Realistically, for the vast majority of people, gun ownership has nothing to do with being a coward. It's like owning a wrench or saw or screwdriver. They don't think anything of it. It's all the anti-gun people who are scared and have an irrational fear and stigma about guns.
I'm more concerned about a 30 year old driving a car than a 15 year old owning a gun.I am not American but I respect America’s decision to keep guns available. Its so dumb to leave people totally vulnerable. We need to remember we came from the jungle. And some people cannot act civilized. You cannot deal with such people by calling the police and wait for them to save your ass while you are being killed. The fact that some dumbass misuses a gun. doesn't mean now we need to live our life accordingly. As a victim of violence myself. If i hand a gun then I would have saved my best friend’s life. But we needed to wait in a civilized manner while my friend is departing.
No, because the “children” who think that about Americans, don’t ever have to worry about guns! The USA has more guns than people! Lawful concealed carry saves up to 500, 000 lives per year according to the centers for disease control! So Is someone a coward for owning a firearm? I don’t know, are cops cowards, are soldiers, or marines? They carry fir the same reason... the bad guys have them!
Coward? What does... look jerkoff, if someone comes in my house in the middle of the night, I want to be able to drop them fast and easy. That has nothing to do with coward in my mind
What kind of backwards twisted logic is this lol. I’ve said it on here, and I’ll say it again. A gun has saved my life twice, and I’d literally be dead having not carried one in those moments. I treat my firearms the same way I treat my fire extinguisher. Likely hood that I ever need to use it is small, but it could save your life in an emergency. Don’t show them off. Don’t talk about them often. They’re just there.
You can argue that owning a weapon makes you a) more prone to using lethal force it provides, b) automatically involved in a conflict, since you have (or even carry) one - and you certainly do feel different about the world because of it.
You could also say it is wise to be armed as a civilian, in case some foreign groups got the idea of staging a coup d'etat and replacing Americans with their (ever increasing through immigration and 5-6 children per two parents, so growing exponentially) populations.No. Unarmed societies are more susceptible to tyrannical shifts. From a moral standpoint, I think that it should be a natural born right for everyone of us to have the means to protect ourselves from all potential threats to our freedom and wellbeing.
I think Americans are entitled to guns if they deem it part of their culture.
The thing I don't like is the bullshit arguments and the abuse of statistics. Like if you want to have guns, have guns. But don't come up with horseshit like guns stop 10 billion deaths through self defense or something because it's patently total wank.Cowards for what? Wanting to defend ourselves? I carry everywhere I go because I'm at risk of being sexually assaulted. I'm 5'7" and 124 and there's no way I could fight off a grown man. My only defense is to have a firearm and be prepared to use it.
Of all the idiotic things said about gun control, this has god to be the stupidest.
People who support gun control support it out of fear that some wacko will start shooting people. People who oppose gun control are aware this can happen, yet are willing to take the risk. So no, opponents of gun control are not cowards, *supporters* of gun control are.
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