Would you like Kurds to have their own country?

[effiex]

Kurds are largest ethnic group that has no country and their language has been banned in Turkey till early 2000's. Their living situation haven't been great in Syria and Iran either. They are slowly receiving acceptance from their governments now but the racism they face in social life is still pretty alive.

Kurdish peshmerga

[DaisyJones]

Yes. There was a TV commercial that aired during the gulf war. Small Kurdish children were thanking America for their help. The commercial got pulled within a few days.
I suppose to some assholes, it was offensive that someone should thank America for anything.

[effiex]

There were times we were actually thankful for USA though, their help for our fight changed Turkey's barbaric regime on Kurdish people. We were thankful till Donald Trump ruined it all

[DaisyJones]

What did Trump do? And this commercial was MANY years before Trump was president.

[effiex]

Trump let Erdogan kill thousands of Kurds. And his explaination for that was "kurds didn't help us in ww2." Even a child would laugh to this stupidity.

[DaisyJones]

"Trump let Erdogan..."

What did Canada do?
What did the UK do?
What did Switzerland do?
What did Australia do?

[effiex]

It has nothing to do with them. USA was the only country to support and fund the Peshmerga. It was practically USA's little army in Kurdistan

[DaisyJones]

We really need to stop getting involved in foreign wars, and just take care of ourselves.

[TurkishGirl_]

WTF? They are two nations that have lived together for centuries. What racism are you talking about? Kurds who want to establish their own country can only establish that country outside the borders of Turkey.

[effiex]

Ataturk on background says a lot

[TurkishGirl_]

Yes. For example, he says he cannot take even a piece of Turkish soil. Don’t forget that you are a Turkish citizen when you are promoting terrorism in Western forums.

[effiex]

Hahhaha referring to everything as terrorism made you forgot the literal meaning of terror

[TurkishGirl_]

Anyone who wants to divide someone else's territory is a terrorist. It looks like you too are a terrorist.

[effiex]

Says the girl who has never ever been to Kurdistan aka East Turkey. Its not really a part of your homeland if you have no connection to it. If you like east Turkey so much why dont any of you come and live with us

[TurkishGirl_]

God... I really can't stand this shit.
Kürdistan diye bir şey yok ve olmayacak. Bu ülkenin her bir karışı Türkiye Cumhuriyetinin. Burada bir avuç terörist kendinizi kandırdığınızın farkında mısınız? Bence farkındasınız çünkü olmasanız bu soruları KS’de sorardınız. Türkiye’nin doğusuna çok kez gittim çünkü orası benim ülkemin bir parçası. Orada yaşamam için hiçbir sebep yok herkes gibi doğup büyüdüğüm şehirde yaşıyorum. Peki sizin sebebiniz ne? Türkiye bu kadar kötü bir ülkeyse neden burada yaşıyorsunuz?

[ibodi]

I think that dont need it they across many countries. If they are independent It is just another nationlism country, I think that it is also a good chance to test a country's system to content it too.

[abc3643]

I'm all for it. I think the US should have pushed for that during the Iraq War. At the time, that would have alienated fellow NATO member Turkey considerably. Bad timing.

[effiex]

could've shoulda woulda :/

[abc3643]

Well, this is a fundamental problem for the Kurds really.

Turkey is strategically located and is currently a US ally via NATO. This helps keep Russia in check. Turkey is also the only Muslim member of NATO and that's important too.

What the Turks did to the Armenians and Kurds is not good - eastern Turkey should go back to those peoples - but America pushing for that alienates the Turks which is something that Russia would want. The Iraqis and Iranians don't want to give up territory either. However, if a genuine Kurdistan existed, it would be a very good US ally in another good strategic location.

For an independent Kurdistan, the PKK or whoever would push for that needs to step up and be funded clandestinely as they fight a guerilla war to establish Kurdistan... a guerilla war against 3 or 4 countries: Turkey, Iraq, Iran, and Russia and the US would have to officially be neutral or even be against it to keep Turkey in its orbit and not get too friendly with the Russians.

Sadly, what should have happened was 100 years ago after the fall of the Ottoman Empire at the end of WW I, the British should have used their power to create a Kurdistan to help keep the Turks in check. However, the British were real racists back then with a major superiority complex and didn't give a shit about how they broke up the empire, let alone, creating Kurdistan.

[effiex]

Hmm i didn't know brits were racist back then

[alance99]

Yes it would be good and they can live peacefully there

[effiex]

Thank you baby

[Leavesbound]

Yes, I believe it would be a good idea for the Kurdish regions of the affected countries to break away forming a fully independent Kurdistan.

[EyesOfGod]

I don't know, i don't understand ethnic groups, and why they hate eachother and believe they all deserve their own country.

[effiex]

Because there are 40 million kurds and they should actually have a country?

[EyesOfGod]

So everyone who identifies as English should have their own country. Everyone who is scottish should have their own country. Everyone who decides they are Prussian should have their own country. Everyone who decides they are Normandy should have their own country. Everyone who decides they are southerners should have their own country. Thats not how the world works and by breaking large nations into smaller ones just means there will be more conflict in the future. From larger countries wanting to absorb them to other small countries wanting hating them cuz whatever.

[Jack9949]

I do support the Kurds but I don’t think Turkey is going to respond to kindly. Why not declare independence in North Iraq if you already have sub-autonomy there?

[TurkishGirl_]

Because for years they have been fighting for lands that don’t belong to them.

[Jack9949]

@TurkishGirl_ I mean why don’t they just go where I said instead of trying to carve up half of Turkey?

[TurkishGirl_]

This is a very complex issue. In short, they claim that they have rights in this land and are promised autonomy but throughout history, no one promised them.

[7771999]

I don't care what happens outside Europe and the West. But it's only right that they have a homeland that is recognized by the international community

[effiex]

I think you just enjoy being a populist, otherwise you wouldn't add that irrelevant "idc what happens outside Europe" part
Europe is not on a floating rock in space, its a part of the World and therefore what happens in the world directly affects Europe. We humans are connected to each other whether you like it or not. I think covid made a good job proving it.

“Every living being is an engine geared to the wheelwork of the universe. Though seemingly affected only by its immediate surrounding, the sphere of external influence extends to infinite distance."

[7771999]

I think you just enjoy being an egalitarian globalist... 🙄

[effiex]

I think you are a Philip Manshaus wanna-be, edgy 4chan kid.

[7771999]

I think you don't realise that I've barely ever been on Reddit, and haven't read 4chan ever.

I stand by my words. You mentioning bad people and comparing them to me won't do anything.

Sick in your head

[7771999]

And you're new here, probably staying anonymous all the time

[effiex]

So you accept he was a bad person huh

[7771999]

Is killing innocent people a good thing?

Damn you're weird

[MasterOfReality]

Yes! We should have gave the a large section of Iraq after the gulf war.. like we PROMISED.

[Rangers]

Sure, just kill Islamic Terrorists who tread on you, Kurds

[OddBeMe]

Seems like everyone could have some type of representation in their govt whereever they are.

[Agape93]

Yeah I would like that.

[effiex]

There is a theory: USA wants to make a free Kurdistan to make her way over the middle east and steal their oil. What do you think about it

[Agape93]

Dunno. Don’t honestly care

[Anonymous]

Yeah, they should have their own state

[effiex]

❤ thank you

[Supernormal]

Uhm, i feel concerened

[JamieLoves]

I couldn’t give a shit , either way

[Anonymous]

yes, they are good people

[msc545]

Yes, please!

[jimmy2]

God bless them

[888theGreat]

Sure and we will name it Kurdturdia

[effiex]

Whaaaaaaat