I agree, I don't think it is simply just a race issue though in some cases it definitely seems like it. Cops are shit, they don't have enough training, a cosmetologist does more hours of training than a police officer in training. I've had far more negative experiences with police than I have positive. The negative experiences were never in situations where I've done anything wrong either, they just like to provoke shit.
Truth is blacks be acting like fucking animals.
Everyone acts like animals at some point. Doesn't mean they deserve to be killed, arrested, or dehumanized for it.
@HiveBee well said, while I am pro police I am very aware of the brutality often casual that does happen.Growing up in Newcastle UK, my mate had his ankle broken by an plain clothes cop stamping on it while it was on kerb,Numerous since,In the UK we had a similar ‘can’t breathe’ story, however the press did not really see it as news worthy so nothing happens.If the story does not trigger a reaction the press ignore it.Now a huge lot of low life scum bring it on themselves, however there is often a level of just random violence meted out to often innocent bystanders or those involved in an arrest etc,www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-56203332www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/.../i-cant-breathe-harrowing-body-19927622
Yep shit is crazy. And it's true, a LOT of black people be acting a fool. But that's how it is in the hood. Where I'm from everyone acts a fool with the police.So they DO bring it on themselves a lot of times. They just act crazy because ghetto ass people be acting crazy.That's another fact that the liberal bleeding heart left doesn't want to acknowledge.At the same time, you see innocent black people get shot and beat. Innocent white Asian and pretty much any person.Black people commit a huge amount if the crimes that are done. That's a fact.All I see is nothing but avoidance from both sides. Neither one wants to admit there is nuance.What a surprise. That's just politics. It's funny how that shit works.Personally when I interact with cops they look scared as shit lol. I'm a big Hispanic dude but I speak the whitest white lmao. I bust out the big and obscure words. I want them to think not only am I Hispanic but I'm also intelligent and say words they dont even know the meaning of hahahaha.I've has plenty of run ins with cops telling lies and bullshitting me and trying to say they caught me committing some random ass crime. I dont do anything illegal at all lol.The entire police culture is fucked up in my opinion. I e known cops and they were all power hungry. That's not good lol.So yes, black people act a fucking fool. Yes, cops are assholes idiots and manipulators and abusers.Yes, it's not all cops and not all black people.I dont understand why no matter what the political topic is, its nothing but avoidance from both sides.
I remember watching a video of a white guy getting shot dead by police in a hotel hall way cause he was having trouble keeping his arms in the air, while he attempted to balance himself.Officer in charge even yelled, if you move I'll Fing kill you and he did.No media outrage, nothing.My own experience with cops makes me pretty much not going to call them for much of anything. They are useless when I'm a victim of a crime and sometimes will say I did the crime even though I'm the one reporting it, lazy investigating... and the legal system is just a business where all anyone cares about is winning. Prosecutors don't care if someone is really guilty or not.
I'd cut off my dick and change my name to Lady Gaga if things like these actually get you sincerely pissed off:https://youtu.be/7Ooa7wOKHhghttps://youtu.be/_c-E_i8Q5G0
It does get me pissed off. As does your obvious disrespect for trans people. ✌🏻
"... took a White guy to die for something to happen"As you can see. They are never satisfied
Who are they? I'm just taking a guess at what poc would think. Black people are more than 3x more likely to be killed by police than white people so it would be fair enough they feel that way. Hypothetically.
Because they are responsible for 50% of the violent crimes, while only being 13% of the population.
Doesn't matter. It is still not the job of police to kill them.
Violent criminals should die
Perhaps. But it is their right to go through a trial before their fate is decided.
You don't care about lives, little Karen. You care about statistics and black guys' feelings. Even if the police killed white men at a 10 times higher rate, you'd still find a way to justify why, according to your ideology, some lives matter *more* than others.
Oh but I do care about people's lives and if that was the case I would be doing exactly the same thing I have been doing. I'm afraid you don't know me at all so your judgement is entirely false.
@askerReferring to your updateYou do realize you can pick MHO yourself right? There also isn't a person that picks randomized MHO (hence it being randomized) so the chances of it picking a "liberal" opinion are higher when there are more "liberal" opinions. Pretty basic stuff really.
@NotARobberYet Thanks for posting the video of Daniel Shaver. Laney Sweet, his widow is my facebook friend. She has a group and constantly talks about how we need to get more folks to see this. If a person is not enraged over this, they are not human.
@NotARobberYet Oh wait a minute. You are an insane racist freak? You are lecturing folks on what or who they care about, when you are just using Daniel Shaver's murder to justify hating BLM.What in the actual fuck?If you want to get justice for Laney Sweet and her daughters, do that. But we know this is not about them. This is about insane racist bullshit.And Laney Sweet regularly kicks racist freaks like you out of her group and she cried with tears of joy when Derek Chauvin was sent to jail.Racist freakshows are out of their fucking minds.
@RolandCuthbert You can find a psychiatrist and tell him about your thoughts and imaginary friends. I'm not paid to hear your follies.
@NotARobberYet So you are batshit crazy too?You don't give a damn about that family. I posted about Laney Sweet and the murder of her husband years ago. And I ask, do you have to be a liberal to see that Daniel Shaver was murdered? I received a pitiful response because the racist GaG forum only talks about Daniel Shaver to rebut violence directed at "Black" people. Laney Sweet deserves justice. So do her daughters.I am just calling out racist fruitcake nonsense when I see it.No need to pay me.WTF?@?Do you have to be a liberal to believe that Daniel Shaver was murdered? ↗
@RolandCuthbert "And I ask, do you have to be a liberal to see that Daniel Shaver was murdered?"LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSince when do liberals care about Daniel Shaver? In this case, they just act like their conservative counterparts and don't give a shit about that incident. Let's stop pretending that liberals (or conservatives for what's worth) care about life in this country. They only care about making profits and lulling suckers like you to believe they actually fight for something fair.
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Why do you put white and black in scare quotes?
@MrBadd Have you met people who were literally "White" or literally "Black"?Of course not.These are cultural designations.
@MrBadd 1. Police are trained to be violent and brutal even in the most mundane of situations. An officer not getting compliance is only trained to use violence to get obedience, that's why routine traffic stops end up being fatal, which is beyond stupid.2. "Black" folks are stopped more frequently, due to perceptions about them being drug users, pushers, violent criminals etc.
There is one thing that I do know, that is , cops have 1 of the most hardest jobs , for all the people out there that saying White cops are racist there probably are a few same with there's probably a couple black cops that are racist 2 The Washington Post has created a database I've ever known deadly police shooting in America since 2015. 6211 people have been shot and killed by law enforcement officers. 46% of them that is 2883 to be exact were white, 24% of them it's 1496 total we're black. Out of the total of 6211 people 6% of them were unarmedSince the beginning of 2015 Enforcement Officers across the country have actually killed 33 more unarmed white people then unarmed black peopleThe other thing I do know , is if I was a cop and I ate all the shit that they eat and if I would have known everything is George Floyd whether he's white or black as a career Criminal had done in my city knowing that he has just beaten somebody did he has carried weapons in the past if I told him to fucking get down to do something either one of them white or black I don't care and he even looks at me stupid I'm 60% sure I would have shot him and that goes for anybody. To be honest I really don't care too much for cops because most of them have an attitude. But then I got to stop and think how much bullshit they go through every single day and depending on the call did they get they're on that fine line of making it home that day or not I'm going to choose on making it home they're not only just cops they were five different other hats at the same time. Do I think George Floyd had to die I don't know I wasn't there and I don't know all the facts but the odds are I would have shot his ass too he's no fucking hero the fucking gangster is a piece of shit did he deserve to die I don't know I was in there. The odds are yes
Aka Chauvin abused his power as a cop.
@7771999 He was white. Who cares?
Exactly. They didn't care
In my opinion it has more to do than just race, it has to do with police abusing their power which is exactly what Chauvin did
That's what they did with Tony Timpa too.But George would be alive if he didn't make himself claustrophobic after taking drugs. So he refused to sit in the car.How would the police be able to keep him from running away, when he's such a big guy?
I disagree. George Floyd and chauvin had personal issues linked from working together at a night club in the past. He knew who George Floyd was. I am 100% sure chauvin most likely did drugs at one point in his life if he used to work at a night club
How can you disagree with facts?Ugh, I give up
Because it is a fact that chauvin and Floyd had personal issues before this even happened. Chauvin had more power in this situation. Had they street fought, I will assure chauvin probably would’ve gotten his shit rocked
There’s people that resist arrest every single day and are still alive. My brother being one of them. He has ran from the cops. There is other ways to handle someone resisting arrest rather than kneeing them on the neck to death and that makes me feel as if chauvin felt a power trip by killing him. He knew who Floyd was.
It wasn't just on the neck. And it was on the back, which doesn't choke people out. It's used on much smaller peopleHe died as a druggie
If it wasn’t on his neck, he wouldn’t have suffocated. That makes absolutely no sense that he died as a druggie at that very moment. Think about it.
I’m sorry you need to google some pics because it’s clearly on his neck. You sound awfully delusional
If it wasn’t on his neck, he wouldn’t have been charged for second degree murder. Come on now.
On the back of his neckLet it be. I'm not going to defend criminals
You are defending a criminal right now. Chauvin had 18 complaints in as a cop and there is proof that he was very rude and discriminatory towards minorities as the club he used to work at. Even the owner of the club said so, but she was too afraid to say anything because she was afraid of him personally. I personally do not support BLM as it has its own issues, but I will stand behind the fact that George Floyd was caught in the moment of someone that was waiting to have power over him
Chauvin was an idiot. But I don't see him as a criminal.
Someone was murdered in the hands of chauvin, he is a criminal. He has a background of being confrontational and discriminatory
Nah fam. Floyd is dead, and you can see what all the other criminals do to avenge him. Burn Loot Murder
Floyd is only dead because he was in the hands of somebody that had personal beef with him from a long time ago. Floyd is a lot bigger than chauvin. For you to think it wasn’t a power move to chauvin is quite honestly delusional. I do not usually go off on these types of topics, but it’s scary that you are delusional enough to think that his knee was on Floyd’s back! He did have drugs in his system , but as a cop you should be fully trained on how to restrain somebody if they are on drugs which is sure as hell not blocking their airways.
He changed between the back, and the back if his neck.George should've sat his scumbag ass in the police car.
Just because you think he is a scumbag, doesn’t change the personal facts. It sounds like your opinion is supported behind your hate for Floyd and not the actual facts. He was not changing his position between his back and his neck. I’m trying to figure out where you got your info from. There’s a video to support he was laying on his neck.
Still. It's back his neck...He's a big guy too, so it would do even less to him
It doesn’t matter if it’s the back of the neck. Smooshing someone’s neck to the ground causes sophistication. I would only know because my brother used to do this to me as a kid. Seems like you changed your story from his back, to the back of his neck. Stop changing your story because you simply do not like George Floyd.
Wrong! As a bigger person you need more oxygen to travel to your heart. That is scientifically proven, aka the reason why tall people can’t run as fast as short people
I was saying it was the back of his neck at first. Then I added that tooIt doesn't cause choking. We know this now
And you saying your larger brother doing it (probably on your jugular) as a kid, makes no sense in comparison.It probably wouldn't help if Chauvin weighed twice as much as Floyd
I am actually a triplet and my brother was around the same weight as me as a kid. I was a little shorter obviously. It does make sense in comparison. You do not need to weigh more than somebody to sophisticate them via neck.
Smooshing somebody to the ground via neck does cause sophistication.
Not from the back. This technique is used in so many situations. And Floyd us the one of the few who's died. Because he took deadly doses of drugs
Yes it does from the back. I have had it done to me personally before when my brother used to practice wwe moves on me. When your face is smooshed to the ground that causes sophistication. Stop justifying everything with his drug usage. Drugs might have played a part because he was not getting proper oxygen needed, but a cop should know better to take different precautions if somebody appears to be on drugs and not use their knee on their neck. Common sense.
Had chauvin not used that technique, Floyd wouldn’t have died from drugs alone. That is buffoonery to direct his drug usage to chauvins use of restraining him even though he appeared to be on drugs
Two idiots meet. One dies the way he has lived. Violently
Who knows. He probably would've died anyway
Ahhh so your true colors are showing. You do not like George Floyd so you are putting blame on his death instead of being factual about your opinion. If chauvin street fought him, like I said he would’ve gotten his shit rocked to Mars and back.
I won't defend a criminal. SorryFuck BLM
Who said I support BLM? I said a few minutes ago I don’t, but you are defending a criminal. I am not saying George Floyd isn’t an idiot, and I am not saying his lifestyle wasn’t a deadly lifestyle, BUT this is a clear case of police brutality and Chauvin using his power of being a cop to dominate someone he could never ever beat up if they street fought in person. It’s not just about race, it’s about a police officer abusing his power, which is what he did here. That has nothing to do with Black Lives Matter
This case is so stupid. It's not police brutality when George didn't listen to police. He was literally just laying there because of his drugged out brain.Chauvin isn't a criminal. But he is an idiot that shouldn't be a police officer I know you said you don't. But it's only BLM types who think George was innocent in any capacity
Yes it is about police brutality because there are people that do not listen to the police that are still alive today. I know people that have resisted arrested and are still alive today. Chauvin is a criminal. He is in jail for second degree murder. And I never said George was an innocent soul, I said he was wrongfully put to death.
If you resist arrest, you'll have to deal with the consequences. This is not a black and white caseChauvin was put on a witch trial. Illegitimate jury
Dealing with the consequences does not mean you get your neck stepped on. I’m sorry there’s no winning to that. Im not against cops slamming people to the ground, I am not against cops restraining people , where people can still be alive and be able to fight for themselves in court. Explain to me why chauvin is still in jail for his murder and Zimmerman got all his charges dropped. Chauvin is a criminal.
You have this rare delusion that cops do not abuse their power, I suggest you watch relief movie law abiding citizens. Go watch it.
Chauvin is part of a much larger case. Of which the dead criminal has gained sainthood in the black community from.
I do know some cops do. I'd Dm you to finish this. But I doubt you would accept
As a white person myself, I have been wrongfully done by the police as well. They tried to strip my reputation at a very young age.
Oh. I know the cops are usually harsher on Whites, because there won't be even close to as much uproar
It has nothing to do with race, it has to do with police abusing their power. They stripped my reputation at a young age and I got bullied because of it
I don't even know what that means
The police at my school made up shit about me to my parents to make my parents look bad, and me and my siblings look bad staying at home by ourselves and they ruined my reputation because of what they told my parents which wasn’t even true.
That makes no sense. Wtf
It does make sense. It makes no sense as to why they did it, I’m still so confused on why they said what they said about me
@7771999 IT WAS ON HIS NECK. And multiple doctors have said that the drugs had zero to do with him dying. He died because he was suffocated. Please cut the bullshit.
The back of his neck
@ShaTTeredMasterpeace I have read that the drugs he was on could’ve affected his breathing in the first place, but that is still no excuse for a cop to be laying his knee to somebody’s neck as it creates suffocation between the person and the ground.
It's no excuse for using brutal means. But I don't think that him staying on the back of his big neck is the cause for his death.Sorry 🤷🏻♂️
Well it was the cause of his death. The cause of his death came back to suffocation. I’m sorry you are only arguing your points through facts. You can’t suffocate through drugs by itself , you overdose. His autopsy did not come back as a drug overdose.
Your points through opinions *** excuse me. You are using personal hate for your reasoning. I don’t know why you hate Floyd as much as you do because if this wasn’t a thing, you wouldn’t have known he existed.
The propped words for his cause of death is mechanical asphyxiation. Autopsies do not lie
Proper* jeez excuse my typos
I'll let you guys be. This case is extremely boring. And I don't care to constantly discuss it
It’s extremely boring, but you decided to argue and you are clearly wrong. That’s why it’s so boring to you. You don’t care but this isn’t your comment in the first place. You do care, that’s why you express so much hate on George’s end. In my book you are a racist, and I don’t throw that term out loosely like most people do in this generation, but you are showing clear signs of racism.
I couldn't care less what you think. George died. And his death is being used for anti White bs.If a police man does something wrong that leads to a bad criminal's death, he should only be fired.
Your opinions are rather sick. A criminal should have an opportunity to serve their time and change their life around unless they are actively killing people. George was not actively killing people. He was a drug addict. If you don’t think drug addicts don’t deserve to turn their life around, you have issues. Sick in the head.
Again you are showing clear signs of racism and I do not throw that term out loosely. I don’t even support BLM. But you my sir are a racist. Please take back that follow request you requested me an hour ago.
Drug addict is one thing. But he had been a violent criminalYou're sick in the head for supporting the terrorists who burned several cities last year.
You have no proof he is a violent criminal. Chauvin has proof that he is a violent criminal up to even before he killed Floyd. If your old nightclub manager is afraid of you, you are definitely not a decent person. 18 complaints made by civilians that chauvin is discriminatory and violent. Yes sir you are a racist. You are using hate to fight against facts which in my book is racism. Now if you came here with facts, you wouldn’t be a racist.
You use that word so loosely. Like all the other White girl allies of races who don't give a shit about them 🤣Literally, no one else than White guilted individuals, take that word seriously.
You are honestly the first person I have called racist about this subject. I don’t live around white guilt, I treat every single person with upmost respect unless if they give me a reason to not respect them. I gave you a fair chance to explain your personal opinions without calling you a racist up until now. We have been going at it for a while and I can only determine you have personal hate against George Floyd which in my book is racism since you don’t even personally know him
Yep. Sane logic there 💀Anyways. In the world of normal people. I don't treat other races disrespectfully for no reason.
Have good day
Seems like you are treating this case quite unfairly , but don’t let the door hit you from behind. Such a boring topic for you but it seems like you took a significant amount of time out of your day for this topic.
You kept commenting 🤷🏻♂️You wrote much more
Get your anti White ass out of here
It’s rather insane that you are still commenting after you said have a good day. How embarrassing. Man up to the words you say, and roll with them.
And here you are still commenting. I didn’t mention this topic was boring, you did. Like I said, don’t let the door hit you from behind
You're so sassy.Go get some tea
And I assure you, you are not you in your profile pic because I know that looks like that would not taint his name the way you are. You are using someone else’s pic to taint their name and that is illegal.
Damn. That's a first 😂
Eh never mind you aren’t that cute. I thought you looked cuter from a distance of not clicking your profile, but here you are still commenting after you said have a good day.
Awh. You don't think I'm cute? 🥺😥
Eh you’re okay. Whatever. Thought it was a different pic from a distance.
How lovelyHave a good day now 😇
Don’t let the door hit you from behind.
*door hits me in the head*
You should go look at the Daniel Shaver Case.
@Ryfyle I’ve looked into it. Cop should definitely go to prison for that shit. They need reform ASAP
@Lyndsielee666 They get away with far too much shit.
His murderer is not in jail, dumbass bitch.https://youtu.be/MRlSg1Ww_MY
@NotARobberYet Damn. You must really like me because you found me on two post calling me bitches. Anyways...
@NotARobberYet His murder isn’t in jail? Well so isn’t many other men and women of color who were killed and assaulted by the police. Why aren’t you protesting, instead of calling me a “dumbass bitch”?
Because of the hypocrisy of the people who claim to be protesting police brutality. The US wasn't on fire after Daniel Shaver. Tony Timpa was much more comparable to George Floyd and the US wasn't on fire after that either.They don't make it about problems with police, they make it about race.It's only when non-white people get hurt that the same kind of tribe that latches onto Floyd will activate. That's the problem, and Floyd and most of the other examples of black people they use as examples of police brutality and NOT examples of police brutality.It's not about justice or anything like that, because the rioting happens INSTANTLY, not when the trial doesn't go their way. Floyd riots where instant, meanwhile Tony Timpa got shrugs by those people. A black guy with a knife charges a cop and dies, and they riot FOR the knife-wielding maniac, meanwhile Shaver got no reaction by those same people. It's purely tribal and is deliberately tied up a lot into race. And it has little to do with police brutality. So Rittenhouse can defend himself from a bunch of white people, but because they're a part of the tribe that claims to align with black people, he's labelled a terrorist.THAT'S the problem: These people who are out rioting or defending that tribe and claiming to be protesting police brutality and injustice, but will defend criminals, often commit violence themselves, then celebrate when the police inflict brutality and injustice on innocent people who aren't in the tribe or who are being scapegoated for the ideological ends of the tribe. e. g Chauvin, Rittenhouse, etc.
@AllThatSweetJazz ok. Just because white people aren’t protesting when white people are victims of police brutality doesn’t mean we, Black and PoC shouldn’t. Go protest or raid the White House like last time. And 2) they’re not dead because they’re white.
@AllThatSweetJazz and clearly you don’t know what your talking about because it’s about both the police and race/ableism. Yes, race applies because Black and PoC die because of their race/disabilities.
There you go making it about race.It’s not about what white or black people are doing, it’s about what that tribe aligned with BLM is doing. The “protests” shouldn’t be happening firstly, because they’re riots, not protests. Secondly, because they’re not protesting things that are actually police brutality. Like I said before, they’re defending CRIMINALS and attacking INNOCENT people.“they’re not dead because they’re white.”The only person that was killed at the capitol was a white woman. So… yeah. You need to check yourself before you speak.BLM wish she was black so they could push their narrative. But the reality is that white people are shot more by police relative to police interactions than black people are. So the whole argument is nonsense. It’s just tribalist leftists defending criminals and harming innocents over a fake narrative to seize power.You defending them and making it all about race is exactly the nonsense I’m highlighting.Thanks for putting it on display.
@AllThatSweetJazz I brought up race because it applies. The police were literally formed from RACISM. Not all people protesting/rioting are a part of BLM. This is how I know you’re racist. Anyways... All cops are bastards (including your friends, dads/uncles, anyone).
“The police were literally formed from RACISM”No, they weren’t. Again, there’s that nonsense tribalism on display.“Not all people protesting/rioting are a part of BLM.”True. But I’m lumping them together because it’s easier to identify and they’re all cut from the same cloth.“This is how I know you’re racist.”And why would that be?Racists are rioting over sleights against their tribe and that somehow makes me racist? No.“All cops are bastards”Putting it all on display again, lovely. See? We could tell you were indoctrinated from the start, you were called out on it and yet lived up to the accusation while trying to defend.Way to go, champ.
@AllThatSweetJazz Look up the history of the police because you don’t know what you’re talking about. Like I said all cops are bastards. And you along other white folks want to be oppressed.
I already know what you're talking about. You've picked one area where historically there were slave catchers and have bought into the nonsense that that's where all police came from. I'm well aware of the junk typical of the ideology you're aligning with. So I'm well informed on this, thanks.I don't think white people are oppressed, but see how you deflected it to white people? Yeah, that's you being exactly as trash as I said you would be. If you actually were going to speak honestly to be you've acknowledge I was now saying that white people are oppressed. I was saying that black people are not -- and most definitely not in the ways that your tribe believes.
@AllThatSweetJazz Are you done?
If you're done being wrong.
The weight was actually localized to the upper back and repositioned regularly. If you would have actually followed the trial you would know that.
@DeltaCharlieEcho She is a liberal and does not care about facts.