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Absolutely. Minimum wage should be enough for someone working 1 job to afford to live. Prices have gone up, wages need to go up too
In a more perfect world, I would love for minimum wage to be raised to $15 per hr at some locations, but in reality, this will force people to reduce their work force and unemployment will rise. Blame it on the greed of the companies, but they're not going to fold on a percentage they're accustomed to getting.
Yes and no. In some states you can live comfortably on their current minimum wage, however here in LA.. even $15/hour barely pays the bills for some of my friends. There’s a larger issue: inflation, denitrifying, and ridiculously high rent. Also HEALTHCARE, which needs to be socialized instead of corporations capitalizing on the sick and using markups to buy Reslestate (look that one up, it’s mortifying)
*Real Estate.. thanks yet again, autocorrect..
Raising the minimum wage doesn’t solve any problems, it will only inflate the prices of goods and services, put out small businesses that can’t afford to pay people the theoretical 15/hr. Money doesn’t just appear out of thin air, if a business doesn’t have a big enough margin they will be forced to close their doors. A majority of small businesses in the US would be forced to close their doors.
I Like to get payed more here in the netherlands the same discussion is going on but if you know anything about economics is that that money has to come from somewhere. So if you raise minimum wage the prices of products are gonna be raised too this will cancel eachother out. Want a cheaper life vote for lower taxes if your country is a democracy
Because of inflation the rise of minimum wages is inevitable. Why would people work for pennies on the dollar, i sure as hell won't? Create your own business and plan accordingly so that your welfare is in your control.
No, the minimum wage is just that. It is for those just starting out without any experience. Wages grow with experience. The biggest problem is greed. Greed is everywhere from the price demanded for goods and services to products produced, costs of transportation down to rental properties and so much more. So many think they are worth more than they are. Minimum wage might be low, but there is also a problem raising it to what people are demanding. That will cause prices to rise.
Nope. An increase in the living wage instead.
It's shameful that any business is paying the minimum it can get away with to the actual people doing the work. No wonder the working poor are such a majority in Murica
It has to be raised. When people can make more not working than they do working, there is a serious problem. Our entire system will collapse if things keep going like this.
I think minimum wage should be raised even though I do not make minimum wage I think those who do should get a little more.
Nope, I think it should be removed. A minimum wage is a barrier to employment for unskilled people. Which only drives illegal immigration as the only people who can do the jobs that pay less than the minimum wage are those who aren't legally allowed to work here.
You apparently don't realize that employers just resort to paying them illegally low wages.
Actually that was my point.
Don't forget that what the employers are doing is illegal too.
If I were ever forced to pay minimum wage to my employees, I would just not have a business. I would retire.
Our minimum wage we here I am is already 15. Not sure what it is where you are
7.25
Omg. What a difference
Yes. The U. S. is the only country among 1st class developed nations that refuses to keep up with inflation; in fact the U. S. ranks dead last among 1st class nation when it comes adjusting the minimum wage to even it out with inflation.
That’s why we need to raise it to $250/hr. We’ll go from last place to first immediately.
Its full of arrogant privileged comfy pricks like the many guys (not all) that answered this question.
@Diddkfv566 But if we just raise the minimum wage to $500/hr then everyone will become millionaires in one year.
@Mangospacho i found your 250 comment funny the first time i saw it. No need to come after me with it and a new number 🤣😛
@Diddkfv566 I was surprised I didn’t have more support. My plan would completely eliminate poverty.
No it doesn't work. If you force a business to pay an employee more than they are worth that causes goods to increase in price. Then that is passed on to you the consumer making the wage increase useless.
Raising minimum wages only increases inflation and raises the cost of everything else along side it. If someone tells you otherwise they either don’t know what they’re talking about or they are being dishonest.
Or you don't know what you are talking about because Inflation happens no matter what.
I’m definitely going to care what you said.
Minimum wage needs to keep up with the cost of living.
Pretty much it.
It does in most areas. The economy of places like NY and Cali are trying to free market incentivize people to move elsewhere. And places like the midwest have an economic incentive to move there instead.
If you want shit to cost more, people have to make more money.
No, the people who are advocating for it have no idea what they're doing and just throwing out arbitrary numbers (e. g. $15).
Mm no the number isn't arbitrary... It is what they plan to raise the minimum wage to.
Do you know why they want 15?
Raising it to 15 would benefit low income workers. Would start to reverse decades of pay inequality. Would help stimulate the economy and more job growth and business activity.
Many businesses have already raised their starting wage to 15 or above. Costco, Amazon, Hobby Lobby, Target, Best buy, Starbucks and many more.
It's in name itself, no matter how much you raise it, it will be minimum wage by the time it's raised every other prices will go up and it won't be sufficient
People need to quit minimum wage jobs in order to see the rise of pay in those jobs.
Also learn more and earn more.
Valuable skills, not some feel good subjects.
Yes, when unemployment is almost as beneficial as minimum wage, and you don't nee to work for unemployment...
What do you mean? I agree that if a business wants to raise its wage to attract employees that it’s a good business for them to do so. I don’t agree the government gets to mandate what that wage should be.
I'm not sure what "agreeing with minimum wage" means.
Probably would help if you read the question properly...
Still, I meant it as.. it's a number. It should be determined almost mathematically, it doesn't really matter what people agree with or not if it's economically odd or destructive. I'm assuming a little, (maybe).
Absolutely, more purchasing power = more circulation of money.
No. Of we raise minimum wage, then we drive up the prices to compensate for social security, workers comp insurance, insurance, food, etc...
Yes I am for it. The cost of living keeps going up and people can't survive on the current minimum wage. When I started my first job minimum wage was $3.35 an hour.
if you understand the very fundamentals of economy, you would know that something everyone has is worth nothing. so if you rise the minimum wage, all you do is reduce the value of money.
Absolutely. If one can't afford to pay a living wage, they don't deserve to be in business anyway.
Not really for small businesses. I've known some small and upcoming businesses who cannot pay what a larger company can afford to pay and they're the ones going broke.
It will just add to inflation and automation. These simplistic ideas have consequences that their proponents ignore but are there none-the-less.
Raise it a couple of bucks but if it gets doubles, more jobs will be lost as businesses invest in more automation
Only because I'm an accelerationist and want to see the government collapse and raising the minimum wage will help achieve this.
If you wanted a stable economy you'd 1. Remove fiat currency. 2. Have closed borders. 3. Spend responsibly, which would mean the government not have bad debt and the individual not have bad debt. Bad debt is debt that will not grant you more out than put in. Funding wars and getting a gender studies degree are good examples.
In line with inflation, yes. Actual inflation not bs government statistics.
No need. Blanket Federal minimum wages should be below bare minimum because each area is unique and shouldn't be forced to payout wages they can't afford.
Personally I think that the United States should have a Living Wage more than raising the minimum wage.
Having a living wage would involve raising the minimum wage to the living wage.
No, a living wage would be enough for someone to be able to afford rent, and all your basic needs a month. I make $17 an hour and I am still below the national poverty line.
Yes... And in order to make living wage a thing that people actually follow it would have to be the minimum you are allowed to pay someone.
Minimum wage is not the answer but most people do not want to know what the answer is.
I don't think it's a matter of raising minimum wage. It's about you deciding if the salary they offer is good enough for you to stay.
If it will help yes but it could be a bad thing to do?
yea im guessing if they did that tho they will be raising the medium wage too right
They never have, but that is the only way I personally would support raising the minimum wage, is if they raised it for virtually everyone... so even if your making $20 an hour, you'd go up the same amount as someone making less.
yea cause that wouldn't be fair for workers that do harder jobs cause in the US nothing is free, if the pay is high its cause the job isn't as easy as the ones that pay less so if they raise the minimum, they gotta raise them all
I believe that would be a mistake. If the average person has any knowledge of accounting, they would cringe at the idea too.
its essentially already raised. You can't even hire anyone sober for under about 15/hr. the issue is just used to drum up emotion
No, I do not. Can ruin a lot of small businesses. Plus these types of jobs are suppose be part time or temporary, not full time jobs.
Yes. It should be illegal to pay someone 7.50/ hour.
The only jobs paying minimum wage are jobs that requires no experience or skills. Jobs like that are for young people to be their first jobs. You aren’t expected to make a career of McDonald’s, although some can and move up. The majority of people should seek to gain experience and move on. If these workers were all paid 15/hr think about it. That’s 2 times minimum wage, so logically half the people employed would have to be let go just to keep their same profit margin, or the prices of goods and services would be raised dramatically. In the ladder sales would drop because it’s too expensive to afford anymore and people would be let go further to conserve the business. This is common sense, then at that point the business fails and they are all unemployed.
@DanTheMan1995Xx I always laugh when fast food workers want $15 an hour to mess up my order, like uh try getting things right for a change and do your job good and maybe you'd deserve it but why or why should we pay more for food when you perpetually screw up now? lol.
@Dragonpurple if its so easy why are you paying someone to do it? Arrogant piece of shit. Go make the food yourself.
@Diddkfv566 What does hard or easy have to do with buying something? I don't pay for stuff based on if its hard or easy and generally I make more of my own stuff than going out.
I'm arrogant for wanting my order right, that I clearly specify many times? Hope you don't ever want things you paid for to be exactly as expected, otherwise your arrogant to based on your own comment.
I did fast food for several years before I improved myself and got a better job... that paid better. I NEVER EVER messed up a order EVER. Had I messed up an order I would of paid for it out my income, rather than make my employer pay for my mistakes.
All you have to do is LISTEN and when someone says something like NO ONIONS put NO ONION's on the order... it really isn't rocket science... yet most the time I say something like that, and its wrong when I get it. Even if the package is marked NO ONIONS... it still has them.
I don't know why they keep messing it up all the time, but its useless to complain... by the time I get home and find out its wrong, I can call them and the pricks will say, well come back and will fix it.
I say okay, so how much you going to pay me for gas money for having to drive all the way back there round trip? they say we won't... so then I ask them to just have it delivered to my place at their cost and they say they won't do that either. Then next time I have to check it out in the drive through right after they handed it to me and they get mad that I'm holding up the line while I check everything, acting like I should just 'trust' them... that they got it right... despite them often not getting it right.
Now I know its a team effort, the person taking the order could get it right but the grill in the back gets it wrong... so I'm not personally attacking you in your fast food job.
You sound like a food and retail workers worst nightmare.
@Smashingdoozy I guess so, if wanting decent customer service, such as getting what I ordered is their worst nightmare than yeah... I am their worst nightmare. I also go the other way though, if someone gives good service I give great tips. Just gave a $50 dollar tip on Saturday to a awesome lady at a restaurant I went to. The meal wasn't even $50 dollars it was like $47 or so.
I don't think its fair if I buy something and it isn't what I ordered, that I should just be okay with that. Do you think I should be?
No, but you seem to be overreacting a tad. I don't like it when my order is wrong but I don't go off at workers because of it. I don't know what they have going on. Could be tired, hard day, maybe a customer has yelled at them already. Going off at food workers is a excellent way to get a wad of spit in your food.
@Smashingdoozy I don't go off on workers, I'm always respectful about it. Just like I don't yell at the person answer the phone at a business if I had to wait an hour to get through. It does no good to yell at someone, that is the fastest way to have them shut down and stop working with me.
I just explain what happened and try to work towards a solution that will not cost me extra money, as I am NOT the one that made the mistake. This is why I will ask them to deliver it to me or reimburse me for gas if they want me to drive back.
I am merely trying to be fair... or just spend an extra 2 or 3 minutes holding up the line to verify it.
I will often politely ask to just give me credit for next time... if I don't make any progress I just contact my credit card company and have them charge back the purchase, as I did not get what I ordered.
This is the same for Amazon or anyone else, if I order something and it is not what I ordered, I don't think I should have to pay shipping, let alone drive into town to ship it back.
I am really a easy customer so long as I get what I paid for and am not expected to pay extra to get it fixed when it is wrong. We are all human beings who deserve respect.
Where, what country, by how much, etc.
This isn't an easy decision.
USA they're planning on raising it to $15 by 2025
That doesn't mean much to me, how much is it now?
Federal min is 7.25
That's a pretty large jump, seems a bit extreme.
Living wage is 16.54...
Not surprised about that, minimum wage isn't where you want to be for an extended amount of time. But yeah, it does seem like an increase is due.
We will get higher pay and in return everything will cost.25+ more. So the extra money you make will be nullified due to inflation, and product pricing
It would do better just to kill inflation in the first place.
To at least $25 an hour. Anyone who works 30 hours shouldn’t be poor.
So an unskilled person should make the same as somebody that went to college? Because I promise you many just out of college students make that.
@kyleelyn199723 So what?
@msc545 so what? How is that a so what? So people might as well not even go to college and then we won’t have people in skilled jobs any more. That’s what the so what is. If you don’t need to progress, then what’s the point of doing so?
@kyleelyn199723 You are missing the fact that people that go to vocational schools and learn a trade NOW often make more than college graduates. The point of going to college is not necessarily to be able to make more money. It is to obtain an education and learn critical thinking skills, and if it result in making more money that is nice, but there is no guarantee.
Ahhh but trade is still a skill which is more than just flipping burgers, heating up food and being a cashier. My dad is a plumber and owns his own business and I think it’s a slap in the face to him to be equaled to a fast food worker. A minimum wage job is a stepping stone job, not a job that you stay stagnant at and continue to work at until you retire.
And I agree. I am waitress at the moment going to school to become a dietitian. I don’t expect to make $100,000 a year, but it will be a job I won’t have to be so hands on and active when I’m 55-60 years old.
@kyleelyn199723 You know, you seem to think that somewhere there exists a set of rules and regulations that dictate how much people should be paid or not paid so as not to "insult" others. There isn't. A minimum wage job is all some people can handle, and that is certainly better than no job at all. I'm a doctor - and do you know the joke? Here:
A guy's toilet stops working so he calls the plumber, who taps it with a hammer, makes it work, and says "that will be $ 50.00". The homeowner, outraged, says "I'm a surgeon and I don't even make that much for a minute of work!" And the plumber replies, "I know - I used to be a surgeon!".
@mcs545 I feel like people can work whatever job they would like to work. I just don’t feel they should think being a cashier should get them through life. Being a cashier was my very first job when I had zero life experience. It does not take skill to get into a cashiering job. It does not even take life experience to get a cashiering job.
@kyleelyn199723 No, but being a cashier consumes time, just as most other jobs do. Time cannot be replaced and when you run out of it, you die. That is why being a cashier should get you through life - you are selling your time, and your time is as valuable as mine. In that context, no job has any more or less value than any other except for the amount of time it consumes.
You know what I did so cashiering didn’t consume my time with no valuable pay? I progressed ✨✨ got a better job. Same with waitressing I was working 14 hour shifts making less than $100 a day between two restaurants you know what I did? Progressed to a better high end restaurant ✨✨✨✨✨✨
@kyleelyn199723 Does your better job take up less of your time or just pay you more. If it pays you more, how much more?
Takes up less of my time and my average income for my current job is $40 an hour. I walk out some shifts with working 4-6 hours making $400
@kyleelyn199723 That is better than what you had before. So the same thing could have been accomplished at your old job by raising your pay.
@msc545 a cashier doesn’t deserve $25 an hour. During those 4-5 hours I WORK my ass off which is why I’m going to college because what I’m doing right now is physical labor. I was a cashier and it’s not much work. Also the other restaurants I worked at were small restaurants that didn’t attract much people. It has nothing to do with what they paid me. Waitressing your hourly wage does not really matter because it gets taken to be put towards taxes. Updating your job does so much more than accepting breadcrumbing from a work place.
@kyleelyn199723 why doesn't a cashier doesn’t deserve $25 an hour? That is simply your own opinion and not a fact.
@msc545 because he doesn’t take skill or life experience to be a cashier. I have a friend that has graduated from college to be a social studies teacher and she makes about $18 an hour as a starter salary. Do you see how that’s remotely not even fair?
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It’s not fair. She should start at $25 an hour. Just because she’s got a job doesn’t mean she should be poor.
That’s what progressing is for. $25 is a skilled job salary. Being a cashier does not take skill. Being poor is accepting making minimum wage.
You have jobs like cashiering that pay $25 an hour , people will not want to progress and become more than just a cashier. There won’t be people that want to get into skilled jobs because many skilled jobs don’t even pay that much.
@kyleelyn199723 So again, you have all these rules and opinions about how much people in certain jobs should make. who put you in charge of this?
Oh so it’s purely about skill? How does the rich white guy have skill when his dad was a billionaire and he inherits the family wealth? He is more skilled then the black cashier who struggles to feed her kids? That’s your idea of fair?
@msc545 who put you in charge of what people should make also? Make it make sense about how my friend graduated with a bachelors degree and makes $18 an hour starter salary but you wanted an unskilled cashier to make $25 an hour?
@SamFromFL inheriting has nothing to do with working now you just sound jealous of someone that has rich parents
@SamFromFL why did you use black vs white? To make this a race thing now?
Being a cashier means you have to stand on your feet all day and you also have to count money very accurately and it takes up your irreplaceable time. Those things are worth money in my own opinion.
You just said it’s about skill. The guy sitting on his yacht doesn’t sound very skilled. Don’t you work harder than him?
That doesn’t take much effort though. You are settling for a job like that for not enough pay, why do you think I quit working as a cashier once I gained work life experience?
Because that’s reality. Most rich people are white, most poor people are not white.
@SamFromFL that sounds judgey when the guy sitting on a Yacht could’ve worked his way to that point.
@SamFromFL that has nothing to do with working minimum wage. Many many white people working minimum wage jobs as well.
Who works harder tho. You or the guy on his yacht who never had to get a job?
@SamFromFL inheriting from your rich parent does not make you valid in this conversation what so ever. That doesn’t even apply to this conversation.
You are still dancing around how my friend that graduated college and had a bachelors degree is only making $18 an hour starting salary while you want an unskilled cashier making $25 an hour.
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No, your friend should make more than $25 an hour. Have the rock white guy sell his boat and she can make $30 if he pays her. But no, he will negotiate down to below $18 if he can. More caviar for him as the owner. While she has to struggle
Rich
I mean yeah that’s how running a business goes, you can’t profit if you are paying everyone to be rich. I don’t know why you keep mentioning white people in this situation it has nothing to do with white vs black. Stop opening another can of worms. Do it again, and I’m done conversing
You just don’t wanna have a real conversation. Guess why he’s inherited so much money? From others. His ancestors had slaves and now he lives high on the hog. That’s reality, and feel free to run away from it. Exactly how many black billionaires exist because other their family having white slaves in the past?
And now we are done replying because you took this somewhere it didn’t need to go. I’m not arguing about this stuff. You took the convo from an unskilled cashier making $25 an hour to slavery. Done. Goodbye
We? Who is we? See ya
@kyleelyn199723 I am not the one asserting what is fair or unfair right or wrong. Jobs are worth hat people will pay to have someone do them. I have no real idea what a cashier or waitress should make, but apparently, you do.
@msc545 I am not suggesting I know what they should make but the requirements it takes to become a cashier is far less than a person that applies for a job that requires a college degree and a cashier should not be getting paid more than a person in a skilled position that requires a degree. As for waitressing it depends on what restaurant you work at. Waitressing is not a stable job / is a lot of physical work which is why this is NOT going to be my final destination of a job
@SamFromFL Would you please get out of this? We were having an interesting discussion until you decided to butt in with a bunch of irrelevant stuff.
@msc545 unfortunately we opened a convo on his comment and he is a known troll which is why I just stopped conversing when he opened the can of worms to turn this into a matter of race which is not what I’m interested in talking about
Dude you are replying to my answer? can't you have a discussion on your answer?
My country’s minimum wage raises every few years in line with inflation.
this increases unemployment. In Russia they chose to decrease wages to stop unemployment in the recession.
Yes it definitely should be raised here in New York minimum wage is $15 and hour everybody should be able to afford a decent life
I have never been to New York, but is $15 an hour enough to afford a decent life there?
Sure it is its expensive here but not that expensive
No. Not at all. This will do untold damage to low income workers and to teens trying to find a first job.
Yeah make it $100 or $500 an hour
Once China Joe's hyperinflation train leaves the station it'll head towards millions every minute
Only causes inflation and reduces purchasing power or the average low wage worker.
Absolutely not because thats really bad for poor people.
fuck no. have you seen the sheer level of incompetent morons working retail or fast food or restaurant or warehousing jobs. if anything they need a pay cut rather than more money
No I do not. It doesn’t help it only makes matters worse. Cuz it drives the price of all the products up.
Do I agree with raising the price of a happy meal to $15.00? That is exactly what will happen.
Mmm nope minimum wage in NZ is $20 happy meals are between $7 and $10
But doesn't NZ have socialism? But what portion of that $20 an hour goes to fund socialism? According to the idea of socialism, shouldn't socialism have funded the happy meal? Thanks for making my point.
They have aspects of socialism within parties but that doesn't make the entire country socialist. They have a capitalist economy.
And do you have high property taxes and invaders flooding into your country?
No. The last thing needed is another inflationary force.
no lower the housing prices. if the housing is affordable then people will shut up.
100%. It baffles me that sometimes it cost up to $1350 for a one bedroom studio where I live. It’s absolutely insane.
yeah the wages are fine its the living prices. that's 1350 1 bed room should be 850.
Honestly some of the one bedrooms I see should be $500-$600 or $850 including utilities. I was looking for one bedrooms the other day and none of them are even desirable to live in