Feminism, since its inception in 1848, has only ever been a political movement meant to give power to the most powerful upper class (and upper middle class) white women, under the guise of "women's rights." It started out as a smokescreen to give power to evil bitches (Susan B Anthony and Millicent Fawcett, who despite being married, openly despised all men) under the guise of "women's rights," and it continues to be such a movement, which is why the worst females in society are considered feminist mascots, like Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, and Ruth Bader GInsberg.
Besides the little bit that Second Wave Feminism did, literally NO OTHER WAVE of feminism has ever benefited society in any way, shape or form. And if you think otherwise, you clearly know NOTHING about feminism. Not even a simple damn Google search.
I wrote my thesis on feminism in college, and started out as objective and unbiased as possible. But the more I learned, the more I hated feminism for what it did to derail progress in society, including the suffragettes, who delayed women's voting rights by nine years (although being able to vote without selective service, which all American men have to sign up for to vote, is BS). Third wave is the one that made everyone hate feminism in the first place (rightfully so, it's a legit hate movement). And fourth wave, which is supposed to be intersectional, extends their hatred of all men onto white people, straight people, and CIS people is even more of a hate movement with Idiot Logic than even Third Wave was, which looks "sensible" by comparison.
Aside from Second-Wave (which even had its misandrists, like Valerie Solanas), feminism has ALWAYS been a hate movement meant to only help upper middle-class, first-world, white women cheat their way through society, and that's still all they do today. They DO NOT give a shit about most women (especially non-liberal women) and they NEVER gave a shit about men. And they still do not.10 Reply
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yIt's a travesty, and exists only to sucker in young ignorant women who haven't yet learned what a dumpster fire it is.
"Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience." - Catherine Comins
"All men are rapists and that's all they are." - Marilyn French
"All sex, even consensual sex, between a married couple, is an act of violence perpetrated against a woman." - Catherine MacKinnon
"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man, she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticising her own oppression." - Sheila Jeffrys
"Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman." - Andrea Dworkin
"The male is a domestic animal, which if treated with firmness can be trained to do most things." - Jilly Cooper
"To call a man an animal is to flatter him, he's a machine, a walking dildo." - Valerie Solanas.
It's not these women hold such stupidly offensive beliefs or make these crazy statements, it's that the so called "sane" feminist never denounce them. They lend them credibility by their silence, their tacit agreement. Even more so when some of them, like Dworkin, get held up as a feminist by other women.
Fact is - if you call yourself a feminist, you're either a hateful human being, or *profoundly* ignorant of what feminism is. (Not what it used to be or should be.)
And you can forgive a little ignorance. But not when almost everyone around you is telling you feminism is toxic bullshit and you can verify this stuff for yourself... but you choose *not* to. Then your ignorance is just... pathetic.00 Reply
+1 yI am a fourth-generation feminist. The ideology originated with my great-grandmother who went from dirt poor to multi-property/rental property owner on her own hook (married once, died in WWI). All women from her are successful confident females.
And modern feminism... is a joke. Disgusting mockery of what feminism was about. It wasn't just equality that feminism was for. It was to reduce the ideology that women were property. That they have no say. To reduce the simplification of women into sex objects during that time frame (look at people like Marilyn Monroe or Elizabeth Tyler - nice looking women who got ahead by their looks, not by brains).
What I mean by that is you have women claiming "my body" and I'll do what I want. But most of that is overly sexual behavior, the simplification of themselves into mere sex objects. And what feminism, as said above, was against. These so-called feminists flaunt their breasts & their pussies to get ahead - again an ideology the original feminism was against - rather than earning respect or their positions.
Furthermore, these so-called feminists wouldn't understand what equality means if it grew teeth and bites them in the backside. They hold their hands out let beggers saying that as I woman I deserve the same amount of pay as a man, I deserve this job as much as a man. What they don't understand is in many fields men do more.
Doctors as an example. Most patients prefer male doctors so male doctors typically have more patients. Don't you think as these male doctors are typically doing more work they don't deserve more money? Not to mention male doctors are more typical to specialize in something - a friend is has a specialized certificate in pain management as an example aside from his general GP license.61 Reply- +1 y
The family idea of feminism originally came from her
I’m a supporter of it to a certain degree but as a black girl I don’t feel like it’s really done enough to touch on certain things since it just kind of generalizes all women despite the fact that different groups of women have to go threw different things so because of that it can be disingenuous. I consider myself pro women and women having freedom over their bodily autonomy as well as other things that are feminist but just can’t rock with the movement cause it doesn’t seem like the right thing for me or like it’s done anything to solve issues that people in my community face
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I agree. Women definitely should have autonomy over their bodies and self in general, you don’t feel like feminists have help your community?
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Yes because true feminism has the power to transform societies but too often lately feminism just seems like it’s for middle class white women. Conversations women if color are rarely ever discussions and white women are just often the default in feminism.
And in order for feminism to truly work, honest conversations have to be made rather than fake problems like man spreading and etc as it just makes non feminists or even straight up sexists look at feminism as that representing what feminism as a whole is and therefore discrediting and making the movement look bad which makes it harder for the change that needs to happen to happen. - +1 y
@doopayo While I think your assessment of whitewashed feminism is historically accurate, over the many many decades before the civil rights movement.. I feel like you have no concept of what modern white feminists are all about. For the past decade or more, white feminists have been race-shaming white women into the ground. They lick the boots of black women even when those black women call for violence against their white counterparts. Modern feminists of all colors are sowing division and self-hatred. I agree that the white woman used to be on a pedestal, but now they seem to think the reverse is equality.
They want me to write it and they want you to think that you do not belong. No one belongs. They actively create division along any lines available. It has nothing to do with helping women of any color anymore. It's about the destruction of society and of the family.
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@dredelirium I used to be in a lot of feminist spaces so the assessment might not be accurate 100% but it’s my experience and what I’ve heard a lot of poc talking about.
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@doopayo Yes EXACTLY! I'm a former feminist and just a teensy bit older and I'm telling you, it's NUTS how far they've gone in just the last 5 years alone. It almost seems like the feminist activists with the biggest platforms I deliberately trying to divide women like you and I, along race lines.. which is abhorrent and the opposite of what every woman I know wants in terms of fighting for the rights of women everywhere. It's just weird, like they've gone totally sideways with the whole movement and it's so hard to explain because it doesn't make sense.
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@doopayo I was just going to sound radical, but feminism is over because WE WON. All of the fights they claim to be fighting are strawman. Their words sound good, but every single one of their mass market talking points are bullshit. They ignore nuance, complexity, logic even.
They exploit marginalized people while pretending to fight for them, and both impoverished urban communities and impoverished rural communities suffer from the same problems that their solutions will never solve. They don't want us to realize how much we all have in common and how what they're fighting for them won't help any of us.
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Definitely. I’m Mexican and I can even see that black people are becoming the oppressors now against white people, it’s unfortunate because feminism had so much potential to unite us and now it’s turned into this victim hierarchy.
But aside from that like I said I absolutely believe strongly that women should have the liberty to do, say, express themselves in any way they want as long as it doesn’t trample on another individual’s liberty. I just don’t see it working because it’s so disorganized, you got women saying “oh that’s not real feminism my feminism is the real one 🤡” as if that’s true, since the majority of feminists believe in superiority over men and dividing the black community, I mean look at the riots, the pure destruction that committed against their own community. Definitely not an effective way to bring about change, the only thing that’s gonna do is add more military and police personnel, then eventually Marshall law, giving the government more control over not just them but all of us. - +1 y
I don’t know I just see so much division, not even racial it’s gonna be hard to bring people together.
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@Thatonethelemite That's the whole point of progressive politics.
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they have autonomy over their body, just not the other body they are carrying. Just like they can exercise that autonomy and not get pregnant.
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@Ez-Bri-Z we are all clumps of cells, and you did state at what point, which is what most pro kill your baby people do. funny how many women are for killing their baby, yet want to force a man to be a father when they decide to keep it. Also that over 80% are done for convenience, so their convenience is more important than a baby, and the constant avoidance of acknowledging it human, kind of like what Hitler did to the Jews.
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Well then... you went full holocaust now didn't you? Must be something with the conservatives lately to use it as example to normalize outlandish claims.
I will just repeat the same talking points as I did before.
¹when men can carry the baby they get a say in it.
²the legal system says men are responsible for the child.
³have any actual stats to back up that 80%? I've posted a lot of stats from a lot of agencies that never come close to that number.
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@Ez-Bri-Z yes, it's called dehumanizing, make people feel better about killing the person. It's gotten so bad the these vile women refer to the baby as a parasite.
funny how it's double murder if you kill a pregnant women.
Not sure where I got the number, but I'm sure most is not incest or rape.
If you can kill the baby, the man should be able to at least abandon it. Hell a woman can just drop off a kid and legally abandon it. men can't. Women love their double standards when accountability is involved.
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Here is the thing... if you don't like it, don't get one. If you are religious, don't judge ones who do. Let your creator deal with them in the end.
I would say maybe don't throw statistics unless you have proof of it at least. When I use numbers I back it up with actual data.
Not sure what you mean by "abandon" it. If you just mean drop the baby off in an orphanage then the father has every right to lay claim to the child. If you mean like a back alley somewhere (which is horrible by the way) well then technically the father could do the same.
It not a double standard if they both have the same options. They only difference is you are forcing a woman to give up her body for at least 9 months which will have a lasting effect on her physically, emotionally, and potentially mentally.
As I said, when men can just take over and carry children, feel free to voice your concerns at that time. Until they can, stop trying to legislate women's bodies.
If you want to go that route then I think you should make it where every man is forced to have a vasectomy until they are for sure ready to have children. That should solve the problem super easy. - +1 y
@Abtraction so let me get this straight. Your pro life but you don’t want fathers who took part in making said child to pay for that child to have a better standard of living?
On top of that you just want to force women to have kids that they aren’t ready for/don’t want in the first place.
It’s the double standard for me.
“Pro killing babies” first of all, a baby is defined universally as something that’s just been born. Therefore it’s an autonomous being. Fully aware of its existence and because of that we have laws against killing babies when they’re alive. However if a baby is still in their mothers womb and hasn’t been born yet. Than it isn’t autonomous. Not to mention it’s more responsible for a mother to not have a kid she’s not ready for than to have a kid just because she’s pregnant.
Kids aren’t commodities, kids need food, shelter and arguably a stable environment so they don’t grow up having the have mental health issues.
Just like @Ez-Bri-Z said, if your religious theirs absolutely no logical reason for you to dictate others by your religious views because we don’t follow the same views. Not only that but if you’re anti abortion because it’s against your religion than that’s unconstitutional since it’s against the first amendment that separates church from state so it’s automatically just invalid if that’s that case - +1 y
@Ez-Bri-Z I expect people to do some work to verify things, it's not my job to do all the work.
Women can abandon a baby legally, men can not. A women can literally just leave the baby anonymously and without fear of prosecution, to any hospital emergency room employee.
And not only do many men disagree with abortion, many women do also.
Men bear most of the financial liability of the baby, women don't, they usually get bailed out by the tax payers, the men go to jail.
Also in some states the women can give the child up for adoption with-out notifying the father. She in many cases just leave with the kids and prevent the father from seeing them. - +1 y
I'm making a pint that the mother can choose to be a mother, the man has no choice, even if he knows he's not ready. Funny how you care about the woman choice to be a mother but not the man's choice to be a father.
The cost to support a child is the responsibility of both parents, in most cases the financial burden is on men, men almost never get custody, even when the women a complete garbage.
It's more responsible to not get pregnant. So at 8 months it's not a baby, BS.
It's immoral to kill your baby, I don't need religion for that. Even a female alligator protects it's eggs and babies. - +1 y
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@Abtraction Nah your a boomer alright. Using tax payer money to subsidize your future voters and cheap labor.
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@Ryfyle lmao, you know nothing about me. I was born in 72, not a boomer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomers
I'm an independent, against any immigration from anywhere, we have enough people here already. - +1 y
@Abtraction your age says useless Gen X moron, but your mentality and methodology says Boomer Retard. Done paying for your tax sink. The government should monetarily incentivize Abortion.
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@Abtraction I don't give a fuck what you have to say now, what you said before just makes you a brain dead pole smoker that has no idea what having unchecked Vote Cattle has done to this nation. What you say you have done and how much you payed taxes you have claimed to pay has little bearing to me. Who gloats about paying more taxes? That's like being proud of breaking a glass bottle deep up your ass and shitting out the shards and blood with a smug grin.
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@Abtraction People who want kids and can raise them in a stable enviroment, should have kids. Other can get a 100$ fetus removal rebate. And fucking Flexing about paying taxes? That's like being proud of cutting your dick off with safety scissors.
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@Abtraction So you're an illiterate Boomer retard in a Gen X body. And you got fucking smoked.
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@Ryfyle I pay more because I earn more, isn't that what all you cry babies want? I don't go out and pay extra. Don't want a baby, then close you legs. Any many women are choosing to raise their kids on welfare. 70% of black women are single moms, 40% for white women, doesn't sound like responsible choice to me.
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@Abtraction Fuck no. That's fucking retarded. Who the fuck wants to pay taxes? Income Taxes is the hemorrhaging wound of the wealth accumulating world. And your second part is why I want to keep the fetus deletus on. They just make tax leeches. Literal Drains on society.
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@Abtraction Rich coming from a "man" who loves to get fucked in the ass by taxes.
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@Abtraction Holy fuck did you lose your cool quickly. Already jumped onto the Reddit Incel one-liners. Fuck, 48 and paying 80% of your income on taxes" to be a good person". What a fucking loser. Let me guess you're one of those nice guys that paid for a hooker at 35 and got caught in a sting.
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@Abtraction Yet again, overtly proud of getting fucked in the ass by Uncle Sam yearly. here's the deal, Your taxes just paid for my steak, and my easy living. And you love it.
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if women don't want to be mothers than they should control their bodies and close their legs.
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lmao, i'm not against birth control. Abortion is not birth control.
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@Ez-Bri-Z so a man is automatically assumed to become a father if the woman gets pregnant, but the woman can make a choice? typical female double standards. So the woman has all the choices but no accountability? How about the woman needs to have a signed legal document to hold the man accountable to the child prior to pregnancy?
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@Ez-Bri-Z also forced paternity tests for all children born, no alimony, share half the costs on basic food, housing, and clothes. forced to live in the same area in a divorce, accountability for false abuse claims and lies during divorces, enforced 50/50 visits. background checks for non-biological partners in divorces, go back to fault based divorces, no more big paychecks for people who divorce wealthy partners.
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@Ez-Bri-Z lol, good luck with that, I'm armed to the teeth...
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@Ez-Bri-Z complete bs, a man may someday want kids, not guaranteed to be reversible. how about if you get an abortion, you lose your ovaries. Become a single mom, then the same. if you get welfare, you have to pay it all back and no more child tax credits, and child supported counts as income and the receiver pays the taxes on it. If you are a single mom and you kid ends-up in prison then you pay the prison costs.
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@Abtraction Sure you do Tax hole, guess where Section 8 is getting redistricted?
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@Ez-Bri-Z There is a point where getting the snip might lead to permanent sterilization. That's a might though, really a better option has to be made though.
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A vasectomy has about a 95% successful reversal rate. Guys will be fine.
Think about it, they can go have as much sex as they want and not have to worry about kids, a woman abandoning his child, no child support, no abortion, just lots of sex.
Oh right, I forgot most guys aren't willing to put their body through that. They put the onus on the woman to put the risks on her body. It's our job to make sure we don't get pregnant. Its our job to get iuds put in. Its our job to not even have sex at all lest we get considered whores with high body counts.
As I said before, put your own body at risk if you are gonna have complaints or just stay out of women's decisions. - +1 y
@Abtraction Well you became an uninteresting Larp really quick.
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@Ez-Bri-Z still bullshit. It's not just a woman's decision, there's a baby involved, and apparently no one cares what the father thinks. 37% of women are against abortion. And a vasectomy is way more intrusive than a condom or birth control. Also, you know how much crap they give a guy trying to get one? They also require the wife agree? huh, weird they care about the other spouse?
Truth is women just want to have sex with-out any accountability. And if they want the kid, they are willing to have tax payers pay for it regardless if the man is a willing father.
Most smart men in general avoid kids, not worth the risk. Most of the women just divorce rape the man, steal his money and kids.
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@Abtraction Why the fuck should anybody contribute to this shit show with anything of intellectual value? This supposed to be the great Forum of Athens? A fucking genetic dead end like yourself offers nothing to the species, and then your going to bitch about shitposting? Get the fuck over yourself.
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@Ez-Bri-Z yeah, a lot of women are stupid. They think abortion is about women's rights, it's about the baby's life, which about half of those are men.
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Majorities of both men and women express support for legal abortion, though women are somewhat more likely than men to hold this view (62% vs. 56%).
You know, I really wish you would make this harder for me. I get you have your point of view but you keep saying people are stupid and making up random numbers and that is not really an argument. You are honestly boring me at this rate. - +1 y
@Ryfyle so why are you here? I provide great value, I support a family, jobs, I design software systems to protect people, I served this country, I debate topics to hear other peoples side and provide my views. What about you? you just call people names, cry, and provide no real value to the discussion.
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@Ez-Bri-Z lmao, consensus doesn't make it moral. Remember Dred Scott? funny how the supreme idiots keep making bad unconstitutional decisions...
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@Ez-Bri-Z lol, no. And morality is all that matters and a life is more important than some bs woman's rights issue.
Also both parties are on the hook, not just a man, again with the feminist belief that the man is always to blame, some women deceive men or sperm jack them. Women are not that innocent in life. - +1 y
@Abtraction Your a domesticated bitch man, and I go where I fucking please. You will always fucking reply because you have something to prove and are desperate for any fucking win you can eek out in your subservient life.
Who should gives a fuck about your "service to your country"? Like you fucking volunteered for that shit and nobody fucking asked. I don't need to bring shit to this discussion, and you will learn something or you're going to reply. - +1 y
@Ez-Bri-Z lol, such a civilized bunch of people in search of the truth we have here. I guess I care too much about people and the issues. I hope my sons and daughter rise above these problems or avoid them them all-together. I find it sad to end a life when I see such value in my kids even though their timing was not the anywhere near the best time and I was nowhere near ready for kids, as most people are not.
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I think you have it mistaken. Personally I would have never chosen to have an abortion if I had been given the opportunity for myself. Thing is, that's what works for me personally. I'm not here to try and push my morality on others. This isn't about whether I personally feel it is right. This is about standing back and saying, that isn't my choice to make.
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@Ez-Bri-Z sure, I agree with you for the most part, but this involves another life. That's crossing the line for me.
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That is PERFECTLY fine. There are a lot of things I disagree with. I mean like I said, I would never have an abortion myself.
I think we have people who have become too dependent on social services when other options are available and that should be there to help in our hardest times, not to supplement a lifestyle of excess.
I don't agree with radical feminists who tear men down in their debates. I don't agree with men who lump sum all women together and act sexist.
I'm a strong defender of lgbt rights and believe we should have the same rights as hetero married couples do.
I believe that we should have more gun control in place. I dont think we need to be "coming for anyone's rights to bear arms".
Most importantly I don’t agree with people who wear sandals with socks. It's just weird.
Thing is, I am not breaking into every frat house with a golf club trying to stop the fashion atrocity. I accept that it is horrible and move on with my life.
I am not am going to agree with everything in this world. That is perfectly fine and actually probably even a little healthy for us as a society, but I can't force my person beliefs on others. I can come to the table and talk and help them understand my side by talking civilly and actively listening to their side of things. Unfortunately, where we are now is exactly what happened in this thread, myself included. I can absolutely mix it up with someone if they are being rude, but my preference is always the calm approach.
In the end, we both agree that abortion isn't for us. We can't make everyone else follow us. Let's speak as a unified voice and say our point of view, but ultimately it is their decision and I refuse to make them feel guilty about it or legislate whether they can or cannot do it.
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+1 yFeminism has the Sadim touch, it ruins everything it dabbles with. From entertainment, sports, fashion, social norms, military, education, gaming and even religion.
The fact many women don’t consider themselves feminists, shows just how problematic feminism is. There are even women who are staunchly anti feminists.20 Reply
+1 yIt's a dumpster fire. Feminism is the tool less attractive women use to equalize their sexual market value. Most attractive women aren't feminists because they don't have to be. Their SMV is just fine. Modern feminism is why as late as 2018, only 6.5 men out of 1000 express a desire to get married. Why? Because marriage for most men is all loss. Who wants to marry a combative, angry, evil, independent woman? Only to end up in court and lose your value to her by a biased system.
Men don'ts: Do not co-habitate. The court can and will enforce a common law status and you will lose half your shit.
Do not marry, unless she is truly the one, don't settle because it will only cost you.
Do not hook-up or date single mothers, who have never been married. And if they have more than one child, RUN! If they have more than one child, by more than one man, RUN LIKE HELL! Don't hook-up, don't call, just don't mess with them.
Do not date a self proclaimed Feminist. Only hell awaits.
Do not hook up with a feminist, she will bring false charges against you.
Do not mess with women who are: independant, strong, a queen, or even disagreeable.
Let the independant, don't need no man women be alone. Don't put your penis in them, don't validate them in anyway as you are only stoking the fire. They are independant, which means they need to be alone. They don't need you and they don't want you, they just want to dominate you and they will humiliate you.10 ReplyI don't support it because I've been bullied by feminists on several occasions. Over weird stuff like once for having my legs spread a while I sat and ate my lunch with my friend. I was on a single seat and these women made a big deal out of nothing. Not to mention its just a movement to victimize themselves and to try to make themselves superior to men.
The most ironic thing is these women are out there because the good feminists let them say and do whatever they want. They don't stand up for men when these toxic women decide to smear the reputation of all feminists. So in men's eyes, and in some women's, all feminists are the same. It's a movement of hatred and self entitlement. And only ugly and self centered women, and simp men support it.00 Reply
+1 yFeminism is a man-made ideology and I don't need a bunch of western white women (and men) telling me how to be "liberate" myself and be a strong independent woman.
I'm fine thank you, I don't identify with feminism.176 Reply- +1 y
Love you. Marry me. You feel intellectual.
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Yes! I feel exactly the same on this 🙌🏼
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this is so funny
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@Violetsunshine6 why so?
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@Violetsunshine6 forget NorthAfrican and Let's marry you.
2.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It's a supremacist movement. A bunch of man hating dipshits that argue from emotions. And every argument they make is based on something that was true 100 years ago and no longer applies in the modern day.
They're also delusional as fuck, thinking they can have their cake and eat it too.
They want more women in high positions and instead of promoting hard work and sacrifice so women actually get those high paying jobs with skill like men. No they instead force the government to introduce affirmative action and gender quotas, forcing women inyo those jobs based solely on the fact that they have a vagina.
And the fact that they think that women are oppressed and men have some kind of privilege, blatantly ignoring that men die far far more.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yThe modern one sucks. The first wave was good cuz it was letting women vote, etc. But today, it is misused a lot. It is more of man hating, etc. Like why do peoppe deserve to get jobs without merit? No one is spoon fed. Whoevwr wants to make a living has to make sacrifices. Whoever gets to a high position they do through lots of hard work and dedication and unless you can't do that you don't deserve it. Modern feminism is unfair and full of hypocrisy. Sure we all need equal respect but men and women aren't equal. We are apples and oranges
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+1 yIt's one of the things that made me only hate being a girl even more. At some point, it's just embarrassing to hear and see all the fuss going around about "Girls rule the world!" "Girl power!" "Girls are better than guys!"
Now, whenever someone approaches me about supporting feminism "because I'm a girl", I simply say "Am I?"
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Well true, it already feels like some aunts overreacting.
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How about marrying me and forgetting about these Things. Lol.
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Look, my age is similar to you. So, less such intriguing things than other persons. Haha
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Sad... Why society does not allows a Harem. I want you too you know!
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yThe same think what i think about red pill incels. It annoys me so much how the media choose to only potray the crazy ones and retards automatically think all feminists are like this. It is also stupid how many people think western world is perfect for women and think it does not need to change. In austria thefucking jail time for for rape was 6 months -2 years but thanks to the istanbul convention aka feminism from turkey (?) It is now 2-10 years jail time. But we still need much work. Anal rape is only seen as sexual harrassment in switzerland. Then in most of the cases the rapist say that her victim like it hard to the point he does not get punished in most of the cases i know. Women can't get sterilization without having kids under 40 but also people complain about abortions etc.
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Opinion Owner+1 yThe problem with sterilization happens in german by the way. The punishment for rape in austria or Europe get better last year so before you think it happened very long ago. It is still new
471 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I support real feminism, not the crap most modern feminist try to pull.
Equal rights is a must
Equal pay is also a must
What isn't okay is trying to be above men and talking them down. Everyone has a right to be equal in society.88 Reply- +1 y
There u go. 👍👍
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The pay gap is just all salary of men added up and all salary of women added up. There are more billionare and millionare men than women and men tend to work more because women have kids and naturally want time off to care for them. There is no difference in hourly wage for men and women.
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how about equal accountability? most women don't want that...
same prison times as men
same funding for men's health
same rights to abandon parenthood for men
same funding for welfare
same accountability for wars, draft
same gender quotas for shitty jobs, trash collector, construction, mechanics, plumbers
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don't see any Feminist fighting for any of the causes I listed. Hell Feminist even attack men and groups trying to deal with male suicide or homelessness. Which is mostly men. People actually give a shit about women, no one cares about men.
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thanks for acknowledging that, we need more women who will.
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+1 yBunch of brainlets hell bent on changing modern society in a matriarchy. Which would end up in disaster considering that most of those imbeciles can hardly even open a bottle without the help of a dude.
I can take smart, strong, goal oriented women. Love them, I am with one since years and years. Those women? Waste of space.00 Reply
+1 yI like first and second wave feminism. Third wave feminism is cancer and they won’t rest until all men are destroyed.
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You like the wave that blew up churches and committed terrorism. Whats feminism some kind of haunted hotel, the top floor is cursed?
Meh pretty much sums it up can't have our cake and eat it but there you go
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I’m not familiar with that expression.
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You can't eat your cake and have it too. Its how children wish for the world to work
+1 yGirls already have same rights as boys nowadays. Modern day feminism in most cases is unnecessary. All I can see now that the aunts that tells about feminism are most cases the ones that get paid for doing so. Not because they feels the need for equal rights.
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And what about this pic? It feels like a cult.
1.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. A gigantic pile of steamy shit, based on the idea that men are responsible for everything bad in the world and that hating them should be the norm.
Modern feminists are sexists, hateful, and most of the time so full of double standards that you could write a book about how to be a shitty person just by taking them as examples.30 Reply- 2.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 ythey are complete losers with no legitimate goals or grievances. every complaint feminists have can be debunked.
the real goal of the movement was an invention by the rich to distract from any social movement that would actually destroy rich people's money collecting habits. that's why they invented all social justice movements10 Reply
+1 yFeminists are currently trying to manage that local, national, and international sports organizations let men compete in women's leagues in the name of equality. But the USA will likely dominate the Olympics in a few years, and I consider that a win.
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Wait what? are you serious?
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Why wouldn't I be serious? The Olympics are a time-honored global tradition and the winners are honored not only their country but all other participating countries.
Olympic athletes can expect to have very lucrative careers if they decide to come sponsorships, write a book, etc.
I am so grateful that modern feminism is fighting for ALL WOMEN to be allowed to compete in WOMEN'S SPORTS and athletic organizations of all kinds.. so that they may ALL have the EQUAL opportunity to compete for college scholarships, corporate sponsorships, and MAYBE even join the USA Olympic teams. Millions of little girls dream of this.
Modern day feminism makes it possible for EVERY WOMAN to achieve these goals in a SAFE and EQUITABLE environment where every little girl gets the same exact chance.
How can I not be serious about this? I'm a modern-day feminist. - +1 y
Aww fuck I realized there's a typo in my first comment! I wasn't being intentionally transphobic, and I apologize.
I had meant to say, "let ALL WOMEN compete in women's leagues" obviously.
/sarc
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If your question was sincere and you have not yet heard about the recent push to allow biological males into women's sports under the guise of trans rights, I do have a bunch of links to resources if you're legit interested.
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But biological males are more athletically inclined than women. That’s not gonna be fair competition in my opinion and it’s fine I’m not trans anyways.
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@thatone I agree with you, I'm legit sorry if my sarcasm was not obvious. You are correct and that's why the whole argument is ludicrous.. and everyone knows it. Only the most indoctrinated do not see. Much love, friend. I'm sorry if what I said was confusing.
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EDIT: OH MY GOD GUYS I WAS KIDDING!!! Sorry I thought it was obvious! This issue is RUINING WOMEN'S SPORTS AND ALL BIO MEN NEED TO GET THE FUCK OUT.
+1 yEverything is equal and women in some cases have more rights than men like child support and getting the child. So its unnecessary and just trying to emasculate men. Which would make our country or world fall. The reason that we have a country is because men value woman life more and are willing to literally give their life for them and fight. Without that we have no miliatary nobody to protect the house unless she's good with a gun.
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+1 yThe ultimate goal of feminism is not just achieving equality and justice for females among society.
Its to make every man and woman realise that they both should be equally treated.
Feminism applies for both women and men.
Modern or old the concept remains the same.00 ReplyBoring, entitled women moaning then expecting men to bail them out all the time,,,
Yes, same pay for the same job, yes a day off every 28 days on full pay, yes free sanitary products, but when the pension age in UK was equalised to 65 for both women and men they claimed it was unfair!,,,
Well my female boss at the time did anyway, she was furious for weeks, I just kept laughing at her,,,00 Reply2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. A bastardization of real feminism. Even if it was real feminism, it would be near-unnecessary. Which is likely why you see the bastardization of it. The real feminists that actually fought for feminism won, they succeeded, they're done. All that's left are the questionable ones.
00 ReplyFeminism are parasites. They get power from the men on top to act like they're the ones in power.
All feminist morons should move to North Korea tons of work for them.
Because of feminism and the gov that gives them hands out and all the power is why I dropped my life and left misandry Canada.
Whatever feminist touch women become angry, and alone!00 Reply
+1 yModern-day feminism has nothing to do with feminisme cause feminists fight for equal rights modern-day femenists I like to call feminazi's they Just claim men are evil Just for existing and they wanna kill us all but cry that they are raped when you look in their direction once.
So I Just ignore them and especially don't breed with them10 Reply
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI dislike a lot of stuff feminism says anyway. If everything about men and women is the same how come not as many women work in a mine?
It is my right to be paid the same as my male co-worker but we shouldn't have scared men off of approaching women like this.00 Reply
+1 yIts down to ugly women seeking the same privileges as beautiful women. Impossible, men would have to go blind And probably loose their sense of smell for that shitshow to work. Toxic masculinity all the way baby!
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+1 yVictim mentality coupled with irrational thought based on univariate statatiscal analysis. Any rational being knows univariate analysis is nothing short of complete hogwash.
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+1 yThe feminist achievements in society laws and media and especially over the last 4 to 5 years has made me realize how Blessed I am and continued being Blessed quitting dating over 30 years ago never getting married and that I never will.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yDo not like it, they try to get total dominance for women, equality is long time ago forgotten in back view mirror.
Most interesting bit I see no women doing anything about that, but most of them say that they do not like it and other stuff you want to hear... In the end they just sit silent and enjoy the ride...00 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yLMFAO! It's pretty much a goddamned joke. So the original feminism that was focused on getting the right to vote was totally cool. Same with the 60s stuff around, hey we should have the choice over whether to work or not. Cool man--all day long. But now it's just total retard-town. It's morphed into some kind of bullshit "everything about the West is horrible" nonsense.
00 ReplyI don't think it's doing women or society any favours.
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+1 yFeminism in the West is like unions. At one time they were necessary and benign, then eventually turned into institutions that became sinister, corrupt, and who deviated far away from their original goals.
00 ReplyModern feminism?
The thing calling all guys are shit and all?
mmm well I don't care about them.40 Reply
+1 yThat if you're anti-feminist you're privileged as hell.
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why so many butthurts man
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+1 ypretty much the same of the original feminists. they are a tiny minority group among women that get lots of attention and ruin it for the majority of women.
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+1 yAll feminism is cancer.
The roots of feminism has always been man hating and the loudest and most famous voices of the hate-group have always been misandrist.10 Reply - 2.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yDisgusting. A bunch of tripe. It is ALL about hating men and commanding power over them. Thank god the vast majority of the populace, both genders, reject this rancid bullshit.
00 Reply 414 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Never seen any irl. Unless it refers to women being doctors and car salesmen 🤔🤷♀️
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Well here in Bangladesh mostly girls want to become Doctors. Being a Doctor is comparatively less popular to boys since you would have to memorise a lot. Most Bangladeshi boys hate memorising things thus they want to become Doctor less.
+1 yWhat exactly is "modern day Feminism"? There's so many different Feminist movements/positions/ideas/etc. out there today. There's some I disagree with, and many I agree with.
00 Reply12.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It is s symptom of the collapse of Western society.
10 ReplyI am supporter of feminism but sometimes get confused when various groups of feminists come up with different slogans and program.
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+1 yGutless cowards who want to protest over fake wage gaps while supporting islam treating women like cattle.
10 Reply10.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It’s a waste of life No real man’s gonna bend over and take it up the ass
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Straightforward. I like it.
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+1 ytoxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic toxic
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yThere are some aspects of it that I like. But some that is really out of line.
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+1 yToo extremists, they create problems to solve, and they try to bring men down instead of bringing women up. Plus they are very hypothetical about it, only when it benefits them or the left narrative.
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+1 ybunch of cunts, if the shit hit the fan, they would be begging for help.
10 Reply4.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. A majority of the people changed the definition to fit their agenda.
10 Reply1.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Take them out back and shoot them nazi style execution. Modern day Feminism only wishes to destroy strong men.
00 ReplyJust not my cup of tea. i am Italian/Sicilian American and my upbringing was the old school way plus my culture just doesn't mix well with Feminism
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+1 y"Girls rule boys drool" is a childish thing. Normally both genders grow out of that mentality as they mature.
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*sits and watches*
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yPointless shite peddled by SJWs who hates straight men. I can understand women wanted same rights and equal pay but leave your shit out of my gaming! Feminazis try to censor sexy game girls!
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 ySexist, toxic and divisive. A wolf in sheep's clothing.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI think today a lot of people confuse feminism with feminazism. I support equality. No gender is superior to the other in my opinion.
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the general consesus is that femenism and fenenazism are one in the same, because equality doesn't require a female only name, and nearly every femenist hates men or wants men to have less rights than women.
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@TheSpaceGnome Do you have any statistics to backup your claims? I personally know many feminists and I'm a feminist myself and your "nearly every feminist hates men or wants men to have less rights than women." isn't accurate. I assure you haven't met many feminists in real life.
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I assume***
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@ilikefrogsalot I don't need statistics for that, its like saying you need a statistic to say it rains often in a rainforest.
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@TheSpaceGnome So you just pulled that out of your ass?
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@ilikefrogsalot I mean no, I based it on nearly everyone I come across who talks about the subject, and what percentage of them say x thing about it. if I were to just read an internet blurb or graph about a "statistic" and call myself "informed" THEN I would just be pulling it out of my ass (just like the idiots who rely on snopes - a website - to debunk website claims).
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@TheSpaceGnome I don't think it's fair to say "nearly all" though. That's like saying "nearly all men are rapists" or "nearly all white people are racist". Obviously those statements are incorrect and it's apparent that a person who would make negative generalizations (without any evidence to support their claim) has a bias against that specific demographic.
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@ilikefrogsalot thats different, very few men are rapists, its an extremely tiny number and rape itself is rare, but most police are police because they enjoy being bullies, even the few nice cops I've met say they left their jobs because of the rest of their precinct being assholes who treat people like shit, plant "evidence" on people to meet quotas, and lie for eachother, and trying to rat them out gets you fired, and if you so much as say hi to a police officer 99.99 percent if them will give you a "go fuck yourself look" and cop an adittude. then you have all those police committing murders of innocent people, one even threw a grenade in a baby's crib!
Any job about pushing others around, be it military, police, politician, king, queen, etc. nearly everyone who would want to do that to people would HAVE to be an asshole. because the job itself is assholish. - +1 y
I'm sorry but at least 95% of police are just criminals with badges.
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@TheSpaceGnome I agree, but being a police officer is a career. Feminism is just an equality movement made (mostly) of ordinary, average people. Police tend to be corrupt because they legally hold authority over people. Legally, feminism doesn't have any power at all. Feminist can't legally kill or arrest people. Like I said, I think you have a bias against feminists.
Opinion Owner+1 y@TheSpaceGnome lol none of this is true, thanks for the downvote by the way.
I literally just said no gender should be superior to the other but go off about women hating men. Do you even have the slightest idea of feminism? Or how women had/has been oppressed by men for thousands of years? It has a female name because it liberated women in the first place and still fights for equality to this day.
Opinion Owner+1 y@grega239 Lmao dude are you for real? Did you even go to school or lived under a rock your whole life?
Opinion Owner+1 y@grega239 If there was/is no oppression why does feminism exis? Hmm?
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Because women got the idea that being treated equally to men was a good idea. It isn't. If you think being a man is fun, you are delusional.
Also if you're such a dedicated feminists, why aren't you and your feminist friends demand that the government impose war duties on women? Because if war breaks out, only men can be forced into service.
Millions of men were ordered to sacrifice their lives so women like you can stay home a bitch about equality.
If you want to see what being a man is like, come to my job and I'll give you some equal treatment.
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@grega239 I think about that often. If both men and women go to war, who will take care of the children? Will there be a huge government-led daycare for millions of kids or will the kids go rogue Lord of The Flies style? Also, I'm against war in general since the government only sees its citizens as disposable flesh shields. Why should anyone give a shit about a war (that their own government most likely caused) if their government doesn't give a shit about them?
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@ilikefrogsalot That's a nice excuse.
Grand parents or people who are physically unfit for duty can care for the kids.
Doesn't matter if you're against war if someone attacks your country.
Disposable. That's the reality of men. which is why no one cares about the homelessness and suicides of men.
WW1 trench warfare is the best example of just how disposable men are.
So please, spare me the "women were oppressed" nonsense
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yman hating, lesbian oriented, female supremacy, cuntery
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Opinion Owner+1 y@Violetsunshine6 Darned autocorrect
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yIt’s never been good. Just a parasitic ideology that latches onto actual rights movements.
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+1 yI support real feminism 🤷♀️
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yI think she needs to finish cleaning, do the laundry and then go make me a sandwich. If she brings me a beer, i might give her an extra orgasim.
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u +1 yI am 100% opposed to feminism.
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+1 yIt's toxic man hating garbage
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+1 yFeminism is HATE. Feminism is CANCER.
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