Girls, do women understand how much crap the typical modern guy goes through?

[MCheetah]

(I mainly want Girls to answer, but guys can comment, too.)

I won't turn this post into a bitchfest, but does any woman realize how hard typical men have it in modern society? To be worth anything as a modern man, you have to be:

1) Six feet tall and over

2) One of the top most-skilled or talented workers among your peers

3) In great shape; enough to devote a minimum of ten hours a week in the gym towards

4) Positive and not cynical, pessimistic, or depressed about life (at least around others)

5) Somewhat submissive to female partners, but not too submissive to be seen as weak or effeminate

6) CONFIDENT with enough ego brimming out the ass

And so on... Honestly, when describing all of these, my closest friend came up. He looks like the actor Miles Teller. A 6'1" 33-year-old handsome white guy who is actually just as cynical about modern society as me. But because he's tall, handsome, and popular, can BS with the best of them and managed to have a lot of success in his life, even getting engaged with his girlfriend of two years and owning his own repair company he started DURING COVID!

Meanwhile, I have pretty much a nearly equal mentality as him (except he's Christian and I'm agnostic, and I'm even smarter than he is, not to imply he's stupid). But I'm short, overweight, honest to women, and insecure about my physical flaws, and would get almost no success with women because of it.

Here's the honest truth: Men will only treat you nice if they're either a super-nice person in general, or they hope to date/sleep with you. Because men don't kiss other men's asses the way they do to most women. If a man like me talks to a woman like he does other men, women get taken aback by it and think the man is sexist or some BS. No. This is how other men actually talk to each other! Without the overt politeness and ass-kissing. Many women don't even realize it.

Do women actually realize how much harder it is to be a man in 2021 society over being a woman?

[Anonymous]

It's hard for both. I mean if you want to be popular and have lots of partners then it's common sense that you've gotta be really good looking.

But most people want normal relationships. I won't lie and say that normal people don't fantasize about being in a relationship with a hot person
but not everyone can have the hot guy or the hot girl, if you can't get them then you have to learn to be happy with less. It's just how things work for both guys and girls

[JosyJosy]

1) Nah
2) nope
3) nein
4) Yes I'd like that
5) nada
6) and yes confidence is nice

[loves2learn]

4 & 6 are really all that matter to me. I think you are making over generalizations.

[Explorer91]

I totally get you.
i think though the reason you don’t have success with women isn’t actually to do with you being stereotypically undesirable. Sure it doesn’t help. But I have socialised a hell of a lot over the last 12 years. And I seen a lot of things about people who get what they want and those who don’t.
the fact you said it’s harder to be a male than a woman, is a complete lack of understanding what it means to be a woman in society. That energy is communicated to women. You may just not realise.
Life is hard for women too. It’s just you don’t even recognise it because it’s always been hard for women that society has grown to accept what is hard to be normal.
And because life has not always been hard for men but recently has been it is seen as harder for men. Because they are not used to it. Women are used to it. They dont even sometimes recognise the prejudices themselves because it’s so normal. But men sure notice the difficulties for them because they don’t see it as normal. They are used to throughout history of having everything go their way.
is it harder to be a male. No. This is not a gender issue, it’s just a personal issue. Some people connect and attract people better than others. Male or female is irrelevant.
when you understand this concept. You will become more attractive. When you don’t understand this you come off as lacking Awareness. From going out on the bar scene 1000s of times, nothing is more alluring that empathy and understanding. You just can’t stop chatting with that person.
anyway goodluck x

[MCheetah]

Throughout most of human history, men were seen as disposable pawns to society, kings, war generals, factory workers, etc, while women mostly got to sit at home and raise the kids. Things sucked for both genders for most of history, but HOW exactly have men been "used throughout history of having everything go their way?" This comment is EXTREMELY ironic, as you also stated that I have "a complete lack of understanding what it means to be a woman in society."

I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that everyone who wasn't rich had a hard life throughout history. But then you threw that under the bus with a ton of feminist undertones, by assuming all men were kings and gods, and that all women were slaves up until the 1960s of something.

I'm sorry, but your entire comment comes off as sheer projection, including a complete lack of self-awareness (towards men). I was willing to be open-minded and listen to you until you passively aggressively implied the concept of "patriarchy."

[MCheetah]

*... including a complete lack of self-awareness (and awareness towards men, as well)

[douride2]

Nothing on your list is on mine.