
Should protestors blocking roadways be illegal?


If you want to make protest illegal, you are an enemy of democracy and freedom.
Recently a republican representative said "democracy is the enemy of prosperity" he's a member of the anti democracy group known as ALEC which operates at the state level as an independent oligarchy, writing laws for the politicians they bought to pass.
There is a difference between making protests illegal or making limitations on where it can be held due to safety concerns.
We cannot rest content with the charge from Washington that this peaceful protest is unpatriotic. ... The fact is that this dissent is the highest form of patriotism."
In mist of these states the fascists who want to restriction your freedom to assemble ( Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.)
The ex confederate states that are pushing these unconditional laws , are the same states that have "stand your ground" laws. Giving these protestors the legal right to shoot the drivers if they feel threatened.
The issue is that by allowing protests everywhere you allow people to infringe on the freedom of others. Giving those protests total freedom means that all those folks driving to work or to pick up their children from preschool, etc, get restricted in their freedoms.
So when I have to work at the hearing clinic in the same office as planned Parenthood, I should be able to run over the protestors who are ALWAYS there, blocking the entry for the last 39 + YEARS?
@slartybartfast
The following is an excerpt from your reply -
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances".
You've made your own argument against your stance.
Look up the lawful definition of peaceful assembly.
The blocking of roadways does not adhere to the definition of peaceable assembly.
It is a chaotic act, designed by the perpetrators to cause chaos and to endanger the public.
The terms peaceful and chaotic are diametrically opposed.
Blocking roadways, beyond endangering the public, does nothing except to show the public that the demonstrators are unwilling to adhere to the law of the land.
That's not a good way to garner support for one's cause.
One would think that any fool could understand that bit of common sense, but apparently, and obviously, there are fools who don't seem to be able to comprehend simple logic.
It's my opinion that these unlawful demonstrators feel that they can do anything they please, anytime, anywhere.
They'll reap what they sow.
@slartybartfast
Regarding your comment about gaining access to your workplace, if demonstrators are blocking you from entering the building, call the police. They'll protect your rights. If you encounter physical violence, you have the right to defend yourself. If you choose to physically bull you're way through a crowd to gain entrance, that's you're choice. You've taken the law into your own hands. You're then guilty of a crime yourself.
The protections being afforded to those individuals who may hit a road-blocking demonstrator are not extended to someone maliciously intent on hitting someone. They are for those who are doing what they must to protect themselves, to get out of harm's way. Self defense.
I'm sure you know exactly what I'm talking about. Don't try to fool me. It won't work.
Here's another example of your twisted thinking, your quote -
"states that have "stand your ground" laws. Giving these protestors the legal right to shoot the drivers if they feel threatened."
Once again, twisted logic. It's the unlawful demonstrators who would have no legal backing in such a situation. All they need to do is get off of the road. That would be the end of both the danger to themselves and their unlawful behavior. The defense of "standing your ground" would not be apply to someone who is behaving unlawfully.
If a driver maliciously shows intent to harm an unlawful demonstrator, for those moments, a demonstrator, even though they are already behaving in an unlawful manner, would be in the right in defending themselves. Murder though, would not fall under the definition of defending oneself.
You may attempt to fool the world with your twisting, and selective use of wording to condone the actions of unlawful demonstrators, as well as the pre-meditated thoughts of your own (here is your own quote, "I should be able to run over the protestors"), but be assured, the sane members of society are too wise to buy what you're trying to peddle.
I think it should be allowed if the protest is peaceful and directed at government which is in keeping with the 1st amendment of the U. S. constitution. But that amendment explicitly says it only limits federal law from preventing peaceful assembly not the states. So if some state wants to turn into North Korea, I guess they can.
Absolutely. What if an emergency vehicle needs to get through to respond to an emergency, and these idiots cause someone to die because help couldn't arrive in time?
If it is a scheduled protest, the streets are normally blocked out thanks to a permit from the city.
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If it's not, it definitely should be. People still need to get to work and firefighters and EMTs and cops still need to be able to do their jobs. I've heard stories about people dying because first responders couldn't get to them in time because of that. Or they couldn't get to the hospital in time.
Absolutely. I am all for doing peaceful protests, but you can't just go onto streets and expect everyone else to take care of not hurting you. Go on a public park, or infront of a townhall, etc. Many options where you aren't posing a risk for yourself and others.
Illegal... is what a ruling elite decides to be unwanted.
There are many ''illegal'' details that I consider to be morally justifiable (under specific conditions)
There are different types of protest. The ones that do not hurt or damage others are very ok to me (but somewhat pointless at the same time); even if my own progress on the street is slightly delayed.
I feel no tolerance towards those with mindless destruction and aggression.
yes, unless the road has been closed for the event. And in many places it technically is since many places have laws about public assembly. Honestly, I'm glad i've never ad to deal with it as i carry a can of bear repellent in my car for when I'm hiking and I would be inclined to use it. the road has been paid for by the public for the purpose of transit and commerce. Just as you have to be licensed to drive a car, you should have to get a license for a protest
I think blocking traffic usually is illegal; that's why people having a protest are supposed to keep on the sidewalk and keep moving. That's obviously trickier when there are thousands of people.
What's far, far worse, though, is the idea that you can legally run someone over (or shoot them) for doing something illegal that isn't a danger to anyone. Would the killer at Charlottesville have got away with it, with these new laws?
No way! I really enjoyed watching all the videos I saw of cars and especially one of a semi running these a holes over.
Not to mention perhaps one day they will surround my truck and become violent leaving me no other option than to record my own feature film on dash cam showing how 381 HP can drag multiple rioters behind you while simultaneously climbing over a mountain of them in front of you all while being in 4x4. Hell, just the thought of it nearly made me shoot wood just now.
100% yes. Only a peaceful protest is what is considered legal. But if you are interfering with other people's lives it is no longer peaceful. People died due to ambulances being blocked with the election protests. Granted you almost have to have a violent protest nowadays for anyone to listen. But that's not the question at hand here.
Blocking public roadways is always illegal except as allows by law for emergency personnel or construction.
That said just because someone is breaking the laws doesn’t give you a legal right to break the law too.
The thing about the right to protest is its kinda enshrined in the constitution. The right to free speech shall not be abridged. Just because it inconveniences people doesn't make it illegal.
so you support protesters blocking roadways where emergency vehicles go.. Interesting, so i guess we should come after you when people die because an ambulance is blocked because of idiotic protesters.
I have to agree with him, the constituition in freedom of speech is more important than pur convenince. The real question is how to resolve the issue of getting emergency personel to their destination. Maybe the law should be if crowds block the roads and emergency personel can't respond, then the people who blocked the way should be charged with manslaughter through negligence.
@Crazybeeguy In our states you can run them over legally
In most cases it it.
The problem is liberal prosecutors selectively enforce laws.
More to the point it should be legal to just run them the fuck over.
nice
If you stand in the road like an idiot do you really think I'm going to stop?
If you stop for protesters they could swarm you, take you out of your car and kill you.
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I'm not an attorney, nor do I portray one on TV, but I would imagine that with very few exceptions, the blocking of roadways by anyone is already illegal.
Yes it must be , actually in my country we have separate place for protests cause i live in democratic country , and every country must have this kin of system
Whoa , but that's not the best thing we can do , somehow
Oh , That's pathetic in my opinion , tbh
At least we have human right association here
No but if they deliberately stand in front of your car, it should be legal to mow them down!
Not here in the UK it isn't. You can end up in prison for it.
Can you also shoot them legally as well?
It IS illegal for protestors or anyone else to block the road. The only exception is if they have a permit and have hired police for traffic control.
Of course. And there very good reasons for that, not least of which is blocking the passage of emergency vehicles.
Yes, and it actually is illegal. Just one of many laws that almost never gets enforced outside of a few states.
Let's just make it legal to plow them down in d with your foot down
The question should of been if it was ok for that guy to run over the group of people for protesting and believing in something different.
Anyways it's a protest as long as it's peaceful it shouldn't matter, but that guy definitely injured people
I fucking hate it when they do it, but on the other hand, if something ever comes up worth fighting for, you need to be able to do something and not just be set packing.
It should be illegal and shock troops should be used to remove them.
Yes, it should be illegal, those who block roads should
be given 30 days in jail, so they understand that the situation
is not good
Nah, but it should be legal to drive over them like the useless shitheads they are.
And Flordia.
@BCRanger10 🤣🤣🤣 They had some shit happen there
People can if they get a permit. If it's truly peaceful then this isn't a hard thing to obtain. Without a permit, the town/city/state doesn't know and it can cause an accident.
They can get a permit to protest or rally or whatever, but that doesn't give them the right to block off roads. You can get a permit to close roads for things like filming, farmer's markets, craft fairs, etc, but you need to be able to do that without impacting traffic.
@MotorcycleMan that is what i meant to imply but i did not do so clearly.
All good :)
Yes. Unless it's full scale revolts, why are you blocking roadways for the common man?
I think it would be far more fun to plough into them. Blocking roadways is having the reverse of swaying opinion to their favor.
In some places it is! Whacka-Mo!
It certainly is.
DeSantis has the right idea. If they are blocking a bridge or roadway, it is open season. Notice you don;t see many protesters in florida anymore?
Yes, if you want to protest in the streets get a permit to have the road closed. Randomly marching in the streets sets a dangerous situation between motorists and protesters.
No.. and running over them is whats illegal...
and the downvotes come in 3..2..1 and go snowflakes!
I don't down vote you man
@WowwGirl I know... Its the other ones who if you say "Biden" or "Obama" they get so jerked up
It ridiculous get a grip
It IS illegal.
Drive over them, because, if you stop, they will attack you.
I think immunity for any charges if you decide to run them over would be good.
No, if an issue is so great and ignored that people need to do that then that's the problem
Should it be? it is indeed illegal. They just never get in to trouble for it.
In my state protesters don't block roadways because legally they are in the wrong if they get hit while protesting.
Yes. Especially when they're "protestors" that are endangering the safety of the people they are blocking.
That's usually the reason they block people anyway.
The penalty for violating the constitutional order and harming the normal functioning of society should be death penalty.
You're doing that now, the constitution of freedom of expression. Just the first Amendment alone harms the "normal" function of society. Just because you're ignorant doesn't mean we should give you the death penalty.
yes, what if people live there and need to reach their parking lot?
Yes. They are wasting people's time by causing traffic.
No question about it.
Yes that should be illegal.
They won't be standing there when a monster truck is coming at them
Where do you think they should protest? At home where nobody can see them?
It is illegal. If the protesters move to the streets, they become a parade so they need a permit in many cities.
Yes. In fact, it should be a shooting/hanging offence.
Simples...
@CaptainSmartass like you folks in Wembley Stadium?
No that is just dumb if you ask me. Seriously get a life.
In UK it is, but tolerated by an extent by police imho, unless things kick off,,,
should running over people blocking roadways be legal?
Nope there is no illegal in democracy.
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No it's fine, just don't make it illegal for us to drive through them🙄
It is now in so e states and legal to run them over if you feel threatened while in your car
Probably yes unless they have permits. People have to get where they are going.
Yes, if they don't have paperwork so it can be set up to devert traffic. What if an emergency vehicle needs through?
... you mean jaywalking and they got hit... shame... not.
Yes it is in some states...
You even have a right to not stop in those states
yep and they should be run over while someone screams get a job u damn hipsters
It is often illegal already.
If it isn't illegal it definitely should be
Yes unless they have permits to do so.
Absolutely, it’s dangerous.
Absolutely.
Shit i thought it was illegal
Oh hey I could do that? Weird
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