
What do you think about making verified ID a requirement for opening a social media account?


It's funny people say this would ruin privacy, Umm what privacy? If one thinks they actually have that when everything sells there data and... many things go on that pretty much assure you don't how do you have it?
Now because people do actually think they have it naive like, is the actual reason they wouldn't do this ID thing. Because then people wouldn't have a blanket of self belief of privacy they don't have.
And yes Vpns are a thing... But i highly doubt there isn't anything that also gets around them and still sells your data. Just again another self belief of this privacy.
Now this may all sound like a crackpot theory but it's really not.
However that all be said, the one main reason i disgaree with it. Because simply that would of annoyed me when i was underage lol. And i don't see why them having my data then could easy found out that i was lying about my age, wouldn't take a genius hacker to do that nvm a fully funded social media site with way's to hire systems and people to find out stuff on you. Would all sudden now change to be problem that goes even a step ahead of needing ID when again it wouldn't be hard just to find out by other means.
Too late. When the Internet was young, the way it worked was everyone needed an email address to send messages on a site and it was hard to get an email address without the email service provider knowing EXACTLY who you were. If complaints came in about your account they would cancel your account and good luck getting another one anytime soon. It was a big hassle... sort of like if you lost a driver's license level of hassle and you had to go to the office to get a new one. There were pros and cons to that but it was way better than what we have now.
The people who made the current system possible are big companies like Microsoft and Yahoo! who gave out lots of free anonymous email accounts. Then anonymity became normal and people could be total a-holes in secret.
I don't support cancelling/silencing people just because you disagree with their opinion tho. I'd only support doing that to people who make death threats, stalkers and hardcore stuff like that.
The other thing is that back in the day people would think more before they posted stuff because (with USENET) it might take hours for your message to get distributed. Instant gratification and posting every random thought in your head wasn't a thing. We have created something that appeals to the lower nature/emotions of people who lack self control.
It's ineffective. There are several sites in which it has been proven that bots have been verified so the idea that you can completely stop spamming/trolling is a bit of a pipe dream. This action only helps prevent those who don't know how to spam or have no desire to, but those that do spam have been at it a long time. They practically feel it's their job and a little ID check is not going to make them quit or prevent them from getting in to these sites because they aren't like CIA level encrypted and protected. There is no second and third check to actually try and verify you're dealing with a human and not a machine or spammer.
I like the idea but there'd be pitfalls and I don't know about those
Kids might be tempted to get fake id's, some people make sure their personal info never goes online so these people will definitely not use social media, then you'll have those annoying liberals manifesting for their 'rights'. The problem is whatever you do people will always find a way to complain (sometimes rightfully so but at times, and more and more often, it's exaggerated)
I can see how it'll help tho so I'm more for than against the idea
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I think of it as a double edge sword. On paper, it sounds like a good idea but in reality, it can cause a lot more issues. Yes, it can take away the trolls and people creating accounts just to spread hate, but it can lead to other things like data being hacked, privacy, etc. I think they should allow more people to become verified to show proof that they are real and if you don't want to verify then you don't have to but people will take you less seriously. Therefore, if managed correctly it will be more of an asset.
Very very bad. the internet should be 100% anonymous and untraceable for everyone up to and including by even law enforcement at the highest levels.
I do not advocate for the trolls or keyboard warriors or criminals, but Freedom, Privacy and Safety should be respected. Not that I have a mainstream social media account anywhere, it's already bad enough that they want to send SMS and I don't have or want to get a smart phone.
I miss the old days of the internet, pre-DMCA and pre-Patriot act and pre-Social media. The internet was a beautiful and vast Wild Wild West.
I think it needs to happen.. Which is why did a mytake on this very thing...
"Online Identity Verification": For Or Against?
It's a terrible idea. I have met kids online who came from terrible family backgrounds and the Web was the only place they could vent and ask for advice or help.
The requirement for ID would remove this lifeline for them. Same goes for people figting for democracy in dictatorships.
Just a terrible idea from people whose biggest problem apparently is that not everyone says nice things about them online.
I frankly find it laughable that celebrities want followers, they want likes, they want praise and popularity and sponsorships, but criticism? No thanks.
Utter pussies.
The last thing needed is another law. It should be up to the owners of the organization, if they wish to make that a requirement. However, verification cost money; are you willing to pay the additional cost to open an account? Of course you are not since most people are unwilling to pay extra. Therefore, the organization would have less revenue whether obtained by charging a larger fee or have the numbers to charge more for advertising.
Nevertheless, that is a requirement to open some accounts. Typically, it is a function of how much enough people are willing to pay for the added assurance.
Definetly, i think it's important.. The last few days alone has been horrendous for social media, I'm referring to the European Cup and the death threats and racist abuse footballers have received is absolutely scandalous.. But it also happens to regular people too, esp between under 18s, bullying is rife esp now its getting inside homes, kids don't escape it.
So, I just noticed the majority of people get it wrong when it comes to _how_ this would be implemented.
You'd not need to give internet companies your ID or details - instead, the governmemt would give you a digital ID akin to what the drivers' license or passport is today, and you'd simply show it at the digital shop/nighclub/library etc.
It'd be way safer to immediately see who posted using the gov't ID and who didn't (and banning non-govt IDs would not be obligatory except where really needed (i. e. for banks)
You would have to remove all the SAML type stuff from Facebook, Google etc.
Only Fans have an issue with 15/16 yr olds having accounts even though you need ID.
it all increases the chances of your data being stolen and sold.
The trade in fake online ID will skyrocket.
Hate it with a passion. Potential data leaks would be 10 times worse and anonymity goes out the window
You mean as unsafe as online banking?
@NoLookingAtSoleil That's one per person and has much more of an incentive to keep it safe when compared to twitter, facebook, Instagram, snapchat, tiktok and whatever else. The more places you give your personal details, the higher the likelihood they get leaked, and if every site ends up requiring it ('social media' is a very vague term) the probability skyrockets
It doesn't work like that at all!
You'd only ever give your details to the government (in fact they would just use the existing ones plus say an identifier they give you or that you can choose)
None of the companies external to the gov't would get your details except what they are approved to collect by the government (i. e. name, dob, for some maybe the address)
The point would be not to get your info, but to make sure criminals cannot appear as legitimate people
Suspending profiles of offenders would be way easier as well - the judiciary decides and presto, the apps they ban you from stop working
Social media is a spying device... No reason to cooperate with better tracking and logging if you’re going to screw around on it. It’s better to try to mask your true identity, add counter intelligence to mask your behavior patterns, etc. Social media should in reality be destroyed. If people want a network of friends to communicate online with the system connecting peers should really be decentralized.
The asker removed someone else's comment and the thread with it after I called him out and got him caught in his own bs xD
@Nachowedgie Not surprising. Tyrants love tracking and censoring people.
If the verification would include something like a code getting sent to your email or phone, that would be a good thing for the user because it would ensure that their social media account doesn’t get stolen or broken into. I actually prefer verification of my identity when I am signing in to my accounts and often change the settings of my accounts to include it.
Definitely a "bruh" moment out of social media.
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I can see the obvious positives , in essence that profile could be anyone , its becoming more and more important , however , on the other side the utter suppression with Corona Virus , sent some under cover for good reason , no alternate views allowed.. Believe us OR ELSE.
" You are either with us or again us " , well that statement is simply never true. Im sitting on the fence. But , just as your question was also asked anonymously , obviously for some reason.
Worst idea ever. Being able to express your views anonymously is crucial to democracy.
The juice isn't worth the squeeze, this only regulates honest people who wouldn't do it in the first place.
This stops people who want to state their real opinions anonymously without the pressure of getting fired or socially cancelled.
People with malicious intent won't be fazed by this policy in my opinion.
Thats a stupid idea.
I mean it may be understandable to prevent fake accounts, but the social media have already way too much data and in the past were giving this data away to anyone. So its not a good idea to feed them even more and even more personal data.
Would be problematic since there is no ID system that cover the world. So either it will be a local social media or you will get the troll coming in from the weak ID system countries. Above that it really would accelerate privacy issues, considering how much social media is already tracking you. I rather have the trolls then give them even more way of tracking my life.
No. The loss of anonymity online was the greatest hit to free speech that most people don't even know happened. The human brain is designed to learn from its mistakes, you do something stupid then you feel shame for a little bit then everyone moves on; these days those mistakes stay with you for life and it's ruining everything that humanity is. The only way to save us all is to return to pure anonymity so people can actually have opinions and openly troll again.
The Fox News TV series? Did Republicans forgive the (formerly Dixie) Chicks for being mean to Bush, yet? Of course, as far as I know, they stand by what they said.
Cenk Uygur, for example, used to be Republican and said a lot of stupid things and he named TYT after genocidal Turks, but he apologised for it and wasn't cancelled.
Who's been "cancelled" for something they said a long time ago and genuinely apologised for?
It doesn't matter what political persuasion you are, it's the right that's making a big fuss about "cancel culture", which is simply another name for consequences for speech. Can you give me an example of someone who has been "cancelled" for something they said in the distant past and genuinely apologised for?
Speech with no consequences quickly ends up as a cess pit of disgusting ideas and occasional dangerous morons acting on them. (See 4chan and its successors, which brought us Pizzagate and QAnon.)
I oppose it because there are people who live in countries and societies where speech and ideas aren't free. Meaning they can be penalized and prosecuted for expressing their opinions. Mainstream media in such countries or societies are usually controlled and propagandist. Social media becomes the only tool to debate, discuss and share information.
I saw times where social life went smoothly without using electronics.
I just needed to leave the house every now and then.
To have ''s. m.'' now is more a convenience than a necessity.
The shortcomings of internet security are not caused by (''missing'') registration procedures; they are caused by an immature and/or degenerated culture.
I quote one computer law:
''Rubbish in - rubbish out''
At a time when their rounding up Republicans left and right for everything from treason to tax evasion? No thanks.
I find it ironic though… we don’t need photo ID for voting but we do for social media?
I like that the petition to mandate a positive ID on social media accounts doesn’t require a positive ID to sign. 😂
Instead of verifying the person’s mailing address, birth name, date of birth, etc, we could just verify that the person posting on social media is actually a person and not part of a botnet or any kind of automated account that just generates posts for social media.
Where do I sign this petition? Give me the link because i'm tired of all the evil that goes around with the teenagers of this generation.
It will kill social media. It also has to be world wide, so VPN's can't be used to spoof locations. Then there is the question of what ID is used. In UK, there is no requirement to have any ID.
@goaded I don't think they will get away with doing that. Where I live in a true blue area, there is great unrest among the people. Tories have failed badly on several election promises. If they break their promise on the pension triple lock, they will lose much of the grey vote. My own 4 grandparents, for a start.
You fools have no idea how much the criminal world is going to enjoy this identity theft.
That and - giving the state any more power over your own people is a very, very big mistake.
It will destroy privacy so it will never happen. But everyone will be a hell of a lot more respectful if everyone knows who you really are.
I think it's good for some places, but there should always be others where people can remain anonymous. There are countries where people are not allowed to tell the truth without repercussions. They need to be able to speak freely.
It's stupid and with all the privacy and data breaches it's unsafe. I wouldn't do it
Seems you guys prefer fakery
@NoLookingAtSoleil kinda like you and your profile? Practice what you preacg weirdo blocked
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F*CK NO! That would literally kill everything good on the internet, as we know it! On;y an asshole or an insane person would want to take away the ability to post anonymously on the internet.
If there were two websites--one where everything you do or say can be permanently tracked back to you by anyone forever, and one where you could post whatever you wanted anonymously, which do you think would have the more interesting content? Which would you want to spend time on?
Redundant idea. Social media as it is in it's current state is a privacy nightmare cesspool, where almost everybody can be found online. Photos and full name and whatever they share online are all there to identify and find someone. A phone number alone is enough to identify someone.
But sure. People don't care and won't care. They can enter their personal data and ID all they want. They're too hooked on that crap.
I think it’s stupid asf and there’s so many ways for your information to get compromised because of this
Absolutely not. Fuck Big Brother.
I don't need to be protected from speech. And I hate being monitored 24/7.
It is a way to link people to accounts, which is self-evidently goung to be used to censor, cancel and, eventually, round up and kill everyone who is not a Democrat/Communist, or one of their useful idiots.
This is an inherently bad idea. This would eliminate true freedom of speech. People only say how they really feel about anything whey the can do so anonymously.
Well it would eliminate most of the trolls, fake accounts, and scammers. Too bad they don't have that here as the trolls would not be able to do their thing without being known who they are.
I think this is a great idea. Means criminals can be caught much easier.
Yeah, dumb criminals... I wouldn't do anything on an account that I remember I verified with my card... Smart people will jus use a fake Id.. this whole Id thing is bullshit anyway
People deserve privacy ffs
Dumb and stupid. Reckless too! If someone disagrees with you, easier to dox and cancel. Which some think is okay until it's them.
And especially the overseas trolls will definitely not find a way to navigate around that, yeah sure.
Once it gets mandatory, I simply will not have any social media accounts anymore.
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There is no need as they already have your IP, your photo (s) and connection logs.
It's as good as an ID if they want to find you,.
I can understand the need for this. However it is a slippery slope. Next you will need an ID for an e-mail account.
Yes so there won't be any catfishes and criminals people.
this is just one more step to communism. if it this becomes a requirement then our privacy and anonymous will fly out the window.
oh well at least it will keep hackers discouraged
you could argue "it's good so people will behave online". but you could also argue: "that's just another big step in 1984 (the novel) becoming reality".
Stupid idea. The whole appeal of Internet is everyone can have a voice
Yes. Although I don't think you need to go that far. More that you can exclude anyone who is not verified.
I get the idea, but what's the point? People would just move to some other platform. Besides, it's not like facebook/twitter or whoever else can enforce this.
I would be so happy with that idea. Social Media frankly is the number one issue with the world. It would help prevent multiple accounts, fake accounts, and help with trolls and spamers.
Generally opposed, it’s important to enable anonymous speech.
The fact that you posted anonymous just shows your opinion on this, along with the question are invalid.
I could partially agree with that, but then again... you posted this anonymously.
That's kind of hypocric from you, right?
I didn't even state my own opinion on this your fucking idiot I literally just asked the question 🤡
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No thanks, there is no way I give those leeches any more infos than I want.
If parents don't want their kids to do shit on social media, they should do their job and watch over them.
I can see the utility as to make sure no one who is banned can make another account but at the same time, especially as of late, it can absolutely be abused.
Would cut down on keyboard warriors quite a bit, since they wouldn't be shielded by anonymity.
Many websites already do that. I think one of the reasons is to avoid fake/troll accounts.
Some KTB // Nazi level bullshit.
Watch those sites die overnight.
Are you trying to close down small social media sites? What about dating or porn sites?
Most peoples info is already out there for someone to get so this would make it easier than it is already.
Terrible idea. 1984 was a warning, not an instruction manual. All of the people who said good are absolute fucking morons.
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