I don't share (wisdom) unless asked quite obruptly from females , then that in itself is quite debatable. As shallow waters , make huge noise and always crash against the shore , still waters run very deep and smooth and tremendously strong. Truthfully I believe most guys don't care about you'all that much either...(i. e.) ... if your sexuality wasn't an issue , neither are you. That's what I've learned.
Well tell you a little secret, look see dudes have feelings too just like you want dudes to notice you it goes both ways see dudes are human also, they have what do you call it ummm feelings yeah that's it
patriarchy. you need to realize that 100 years ago , a woman's self worth was completely based on if she can find a husband. The sexist patriarchist still think the same rules apply today.
Whats the patriarchy, define it? Also if that was what a woman's worth was then is it matriarchies fault that a man only had worth in what he could produce to provide for a woman and his children or is that also "patriarchy's"(read:Men's) fault?
That's also why those rubasic les don't apply to as big of a standard today, things that men find attractive will still remain and are in no way patriarchal. If men and women didn't find things in each other that where attractive the human race would've already gone extinct.
Modern men also have unprecedentedly high divorce rates and how do you know men prefer women with careers who won't be able to devote as much time to taking care of their children then she otherwise would have without a career.
No, that is not true and its also not what I asked. If it was patriarchy that women's self worth was completely based on if she could find a husband (assuming this statement is correct (its not)), then is it not then matriarchy that a mans self worth and value came only in his ability to provide for his wife and children? That was the question. So was it matriarchy or not?
@IronSword because I have dated a lot. I have never ever came by a modern young man who prefered a woman without an education / career.
This type of woman is what modern men call "a woman with nothing to bring to the table".
Younger MODERN men are looking for more than just a woman who can pop out babies, they expect women to have an education / career / income. It shows that she is competent as a person.
Only Misoygnistic men from the rural , suburban, all white, Christian communities would believe that all women should be uneducated, housewives, get married at 18 and have 4 kids by the time she turns 25.
Men from large modern citifies no longer hold this type of mindset.
Most men in the US can't even support a housewife. Most wives in america are working.
Housewives are no longer respected by society. Career women are the ones who hold and get all the respect. Housewives are also unaffordable by most of america too.
I think its about time people wake up and realize its no longer 1950, its 2021. Where there are more women in college than men.
@hellionthesagereborn Not really. If you're unmarried as a woman, you will get insulted with names such as "spinsters" or "the lady with 50 cats". There really wasn't a bad stigma for poor men who is struggling to support his family.
Strange, you keep avoiding answering the question. Men are harassed to get married too, acting as if this is only something women go through is incredibly ignorant. Also yes their is a stigma against poor men and especially against poor men who are struggling to support their families.
So I will ask again, if "patriarchy" is responsible for all the bad things women experience as suggested, is Matriarchy responsible for all the bad things men experience, yes or no?
there is no stigma against poor men. there is no stigma on unmarried men. Unmarried men are called bachelors , which is quite respectful sounding compared to what unmarried women are called "spinsters " or "lady with 50 cats".
its about time that you stop starting pity parties for men. we can all see through your lies.
Everyone cares about everyone else's approval. Those who claim otherwise are usually trying to cover their insecurity about not being sure if they are worthy of it.
Oh, I don't know, maybe BECAUSE SO MANY YOUNG GIRLS ARE SO "CLINGY" with much older, and, oh, RICH guys!! Does the term "gold-digger" mean anything to you?
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And those people who said "Don't act like that or no man will marry you" to you..
Not every woman cares about what we think. But we think what we think because of the thousands of thirst traps and validation posts y'all make. Along with the "sex sells" philosophy of marketing.
Okay, so maybe you can answer a question then, if women don't care about what men think, why do they wear skimpy clothes, low cut shirts, short skirts, heels, makeup, cleavege glitter, get their nails done, breast implants, butt implants, lip injections, botox, take fifteen photos and then pick the one that they look best in, use filters to make themselves look more attractive, have fifteen different hair and skin products to make sure their skin is perfect and they look good, spend three times as much on their hair then a man does, post half naked photos of themselves on any and all social media sites, ask questions about if they look pretty or not, complain when they don't get male attention, and in videos and photos they post generally crop the top of their heads from them in order to show more cleavege? Seems like a lot of extra work to get male attention and approval that isn't wanted don't you think?
and why is that women's fashion? Because women care what men think. the only reason why women adamantly refuse to admit this is because of well one ego, and two if they admitted this it would mean that women wouldn't have as much leverage because they would have to admit they want male attention as much as men want female attention.
@karaspara The majority of women aren't lesbians. (That's an odd argument anyway, since so many lesbians are butch and masculine to the point of being "men with vaginas" anyway.) His point was basically that if women didn't care what men thought of them, they wouldn't do anything whatsoever to exude sex appeal. Cleavage wouldn't be a thing. Makeup wouldn't be a thing. Etc. Women can claim they do it for other women (which is largely true), but won't admit that the other women are their *competition!* They dress up not to impress other women, but to BEAT other women in sexiness! And men have enough experience with the "I just do it for me" chicks to know they're full of sh*t. The "I just do it for me" chicks are often the MOST insecure the moment they aren't getting male attention. They're narcissists and take the attention they get for granted... Until they hit their 30s, that is.
Must suck to be around the women you guys know not true of me my sister or close friends though I do know some women obviously that fall under that bracket
To attract other women, hence why lesbians tend to dress in a more masculine way because they tend to prefer more masculine women. Check your ego, your the one suggesting that your so above all others that you are unfazed by your own biological drives. I'm saying both men and women try to be more attractive to the opposite sex and do seek their approval, your the one claiming that you wear make up only for you (narcissistic) that you wear revealing and figure hugging clothing only for you (narcissistic), that you only care about what you think and feel (narcissistic). Your quite literally arguing that your ego is so massive that women only care about themselves while I'm saying that both genders care about what the other thinks, how is that me being egotistical and you not?
So do you really believe that women are that narcissistic and sociopathic as to not care about any one else or what anyone else thinks but themselves, or do you want to admit that you go through all of this trouble, jump through all of these hoops because yes you actually do care about male approval and yes you do want to look attractive towards the opposite sex? Keep in mind, their is a right answer to this.
Because they do unless you’re a lesbian. Unless you’re a conservative woman you’re more concerned about our dicks size then you are about our personality
Are you kidding? I see more women doing everything for their men to get THEIR approval. They wait on them hand and foot and are sluts in bed for them, even if they don't want to. They take abuse and go back for more instead of leaving and if they do leave they go back. So I think you have that backwards.
They were raised by women who conflate attraction with looks. Men shouldn't do that because it says you're trying to look cuter than her. Wearing simple shit looks more masculine to me.
Becaues men are the gate keepers of relationships. Just like women are the gatekeepers of sex. If you want a man to commit, then you have to get his approval.
Because women are blackholes for attention, there is no limit they can absorb and steal from other people. Women basically exist to consume, and they produce nothing beyond more mouths that exist solely to consume.
Girls do tend to seek out approval from people they care about like family, friends and boyfriends just not really so much from other people. Guys are like that too except they seek approval more than most girls do. That's just my opinion.
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I don't share (wisdom) unless asked quite obruptly from females , then that in itself is quite debatable. As shallow waters , make huge noise and always crash against the shore , still waters run very deep and smooth and tremendously strong. Truthfully I believe most guys don't care about you'all that much either...(i. e.) ... if your sexuality wasn't an issue , neither are you. That's what I've learned.
Well tell you a little secret, look see dudes have feelings too just like you want dudes to notice you it goes both ways see dudes are human also, they have what do you call it ummm feelings yeah that's it
Dude! Punctuation is fundamental! Yikes.
patriarchy. you need to realize that 100 years ago , a woman's self worth was completely based on if she can find a husband. The sexist patriarchist still think the same rules apply today.
Whats the patriarchy, define it? Also if that was what a woman's worth was then is it matriarchies fault that a man only had worth in what he could produce to provide for a woman and his children or is that also "patriarchy's"(read:Men's) fault?
@hellionthesagereborn nowadays, most wives have to work full time jobs in order to support their families
That's also why those rubasic les don't apply to as big of a standard today, things that men find attractive will still remain and are in no way patriarchal. If men and women didn't find things in each other that where attractive the human race would've already gone extinct.
@IronSword Modern men prefer smart women with education and careers than housewives.
Basic rules*
Modern men also have unprecedentedly high divorce rates and how do you know men prefer women with careers who won't be able to devote as much time to taking care of their children then she otherwise would have without a career.
No, that is not true and its also not what I asked. If it was patriarchy that women's self worth was completely based on if she could find a husband (assuming this statement is correct (its not)), then is it not then matriarchy that a mans self worth and value came only in his ability to provide for his wife and children? That was the question. So was it matriarchy or not?
@IronSword because I have dated a lot. I have never ever came by a modern young man who prefered a woman without an education / career.
This type of woman is what modern men call "a woman with nothing to bring to the table".
Younger MODERN men are looking for more than just a woman who can pop out babies, they expect women to have an education / career / income. It shows that she is competent as a person.
Only Misoygnistic men from the rural , suburban, all white, Christian communities would believe that all women should be uneducated, housewives, get married at 18 and have 4 kids by the time she turns 25.
Men from large modern citifies no longer hold this type of mindset.
Most men in the US can't even support a housewife. Most wives in america are working.
@IronSword
Housewives are no longer respected by society. Career women are the ones who hold and get all the respect. Housewives are also unaffordable by most of america too.
I think its about time people wake up and realize its no longer 1950, its 2021. Where there are more women in college than men.
@hellionthesagereborn Not really. If you're unmarried as a woman, you will get insulted with names such as "spinsters" or "the lady with 50 cats". There really wasn't a bad stigma for poor men who is struggling to support his family.
Strange, you keep avoiding answering the question. Men are harassed to get married too, acting as if this is only something women go through is incredibly ignorant. Also yes their is a stigma against poor men and especially against poor men who are struggling to support their families.
So I will ask again, if "patriarchy" is responsible for all the bad things women experience as suggested, is Matriarchy responsible for all the bad things men experience, yes or no?
@hellionthesagereborn
there is no stigma against poor men. there is no stigma on unmarried men. Unmarried men are called bachelors , which is quite respectful sounding compared to what unmarried women are called "spinsters " or "lady with 50 cats".
its about time that you stop starting pity parties for men.
we can all see through your lies.
Because for all too many women, the need for approval is their "kryptonite", to use the Superman story:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/GIiToWAA5PsEveryone cares about everyone else's approval. Those who claim otherwise are usually trying to cover their insecurity about not being sure if they are worthy of it.
Damn. From the 3 pointer!
Oh, I don't know, maybe BECAUSE SO MANY YOUNG GIRLS ARE SO "CLINGY" with much older, and, oh, RICH guys!!
Does the term "gold-digger" mean anything to you?
And those people who said "Don't act like that or no man will marry you" to you..
What sort of gentials did they have?
Uh huh..
Mystery solved.
Not every woman cares about what we think. But we think what we think because of the thousands of thirst traps and validation posts y'all make. Along with the "sex sells" philosophy of marketing.
It's not a gender thing, it happens to me with women too.
Just a few days ago a gal told me that I look like a six out of ten, while I never asked for such rating.
I simply replied that I give her a four :D👍
They look at the world through there eyes and can't see anything else ( not all guys but the Jeremy Clarkson's and Piers Morgans of this world )
Omg, Piers is such a jerk!! I can't stand the way he treats women!!
Okay, so maybe you can answer a question then, if women don't care about what men think, why do they wear skimpy clothes, low cut shirts, short skirts, heels, makeup, cleavege glitter, get their nails done, breast implants, butt implants, lip injections, botox, take fifteen photos and then pick the one that they look best in, use filters to make themselves look more attractive, have fifteen different hair and skin products to make sure their skin is perfect and they look good, spend three times as much on their hair then a man does, post half naked photos of themselves on any and all social media sites, ask questions about if they look pretty or not, complain when they don't get male attention, and in videos and photos they post generally crop the top of their heads from them in order to show more cleavege? Seems like a lot of extra work to get male attention and approval that isn't wanted don't you think?
Fashion
and why is that women's fashion? Because women care what men think. the only reason why women adamantly refuse to admit this is because of well one ego, and two if they admitted this it would mean that women wouldn't have as much leverage because they would have to admit they want male attention as much as men want female attention.
Why do lesbians dress up then mate? Check your own ego 😂
@karaspara
The majority of women aren't lesbians. (That's an odd argument anyway, since so many lesbians are butch and masculine to the point of being "men with vaginas" anyway.) His point was basically that if women didn't care what men thought of them, they wouldn't do anything whatsoever to exude sex appeal. Cleavage wouldn't be a thing. Makeup wouldn't be a thing. Etc. Women can claim they do it for other women (which is largely true), but won't admit that the other women are their *competition!* They dress up not to impress other women, but to BEAT other women in sexiness!
And men have enough experience with the "I just do it for me" chicks to know they're full of sh*t. The "I just do it for me" chicks are often the MOST insecure the moment they aren't getting male attention. They're narcissists and take the attention they get for granted... Until they hit their 30s, that is.
Must suck to be around the women you guys know not true of me my sister or close friends though I do know some women obviously that fall under that bracket
To attract other women, hence why lesbians tend to dress in a more masculine way because they tend to prefer more masculine women. Check your ego, your the one suggesting that your so above all others that you are unfazed by your own biological drives. I'm saying both men and women try to be more attractive to the opposite sex and do seek their approval, your the one claiming that you wear make up only for you (narcissistic) that you wear revealing and figure hugging clothing only for you (narcissistic), that you only care about what you think and feel (narcissistic). Your quite literally arguing that your ego is so massive that women only care about themselves while I'm saying that both genders care about what the other thinks, how is that me being egotistical and you not?
So do you really believe that women are that narcissistic and sociopathic as to not care about any one else or what anyone else thinks but themselves, or do you want to admit that you go through all of this trouble, jump through all of these hoops because yes you actually do care about male approval and yes you do want to look attractive towards the opposite sex? Keep in mind, their is a right answer to this.
Because they do unless you’re a lesbian. Unless you’re a conservative woman you’re more concerned about our dicks size then you are about our personality
Are you kidding? I see more women doing everything for their men to get THEIR approval. They wait on them hand and foot and are sluts in bed for them, even if they don't want to. They take abuse and go back for more instead of leaving and if they do leave they go back. So I think you have that backwards.
You're ridiculous
Only to weak women. You apparently don't have that problem.
Worst case scenario. Too personal. That's not most men's behavior.
They were raised by women who conflate attraction with looks. Men shouldn't do that because it says you're trying to look cuter than her. Wearing simple shit looks more masculine to me.
Becaues men are the gate keepers of relationships. Just like women are the gatekeepers of sex. If you want a man to commit, then you have to get his approval.
This
As long as you aren't walking around with your snizeroo hanging out, you will land a husband. So don't listen to those men, Kimmy!
Ew shut up I don't care about thaaaat
You don't care about what? Finding a husband?
She doesn't. Like a typical 16 year old, she's ignorant. Let her think she's getting somewhere other than deeper in her own hole.
That just explains the original post though.
@NightHawk99 , Ah, 16. Yeah. Her first orgasm will clear away all this nonsensical-think real quick.
Because women are blackholes for attention, there is no limit they can absorb and steal from other people. Women basically exist to consume, and they produce nothing beyond more mouths that exist solely to consume.
Of course we do. lol
Personally, I'm not sure why no man wanting to marry you is seen as a bad thing.
A female who makes demeaning generalizations about men probably warrants such treatment.
Girls do tend to seek out approval from people they care about like family, friends and boyfriends just not really so much from other people. Guys are like that too except they seek approval more than most girls do. That's just my opinion.
I don’t need approval from any man lmao nor do I care for it. I don’t even need it from women.