The part of society that hates older women is comprised of nothing but misogynistic asshats who 'value' younger women because they view them as an easy lay. So.. pick your poison.
I'd rather do without that group of people as a whole as I know that, regardless of my age/gender, I have more to offer than what's between my legs.
Yes, ageing is natural and you shouldn't fear it. Nowadays brands and companies don't care about people they only care about making money off of peoples insecurities mainly women making them think that they are too old to do, wear and have certain things. Half of the beauty staisrds out there are complete bs so people can make money off of people.
What you think is what you attract. If you constantly think that your man is going to leave you for a younger woman then that's what's going to happen. You need to change your mentality and stop fearing things that have not even happened because your subliminally creating these situations even if you don't intend them to happen.
I would say stop feeding into society, be happy with your own life, increase your confidence and just live your life.
I dont know if this helps you but I've seen 100x more married couples, growing old together and less than 10 cases in my life where old guys end up with young adults.
I can remember only 1 case where a 50 year old started dating a 20 year old. Now they are engaged, living normal life.
Add to my comment. I dont think society hates old women. That is a word too strong. I think you are trying to ask as why older women are no longer found atractive by majority of men.
Listening to Society and Social Media is why Everyone is so Depressed. I am 66 years old and I Love being 66 years old and I do Not feel hated by society. I am very Vein and taking care of myself has Always been my Top Priority. A lot is women after getting married have Lost making “Taking Care of Themselves” a Top Priority!
Same reason why they hate old men... because some idiot in society told people to and like good little sheep, they did.
Real reason? There is no reason, because people in large numbers are straight up stupid. This is why people are always much kinder one on one than they are in groups.
The whole issue for women is that after 30 the chances of a healthy pregnancy and birth exponentially decrease. While sure mens sperm count might drop but there's still sperm non the less and men produce it until the day they die. While a womans eggs are effectively gone by 45.
Listen according to your point of view, you may say old wo. en are disliked by the society. But for heaven's sake, there are still many people who love the old people. Especially women. If your husband leaves you then it's his fault and not yours.
There’s nothing wrong with it, I’m not sure about western culture but I’m my culture aging is celebrated. Grey hairs and wrinkles are a sign of someone’s wisdom
I don't hate old women but I think many old people are a little mean, very opinionated, think they are right about every subject, judge modern women like it's still 1938, and I'm sure there's more these are just quick observations
Old women are fine everyone loves grandma. But old unmarried women who don't have a family tend to be a drain on society at large. At least when us men get to old to work we have the common courtesy to just die
I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about but maybe if so many didn't act bitchy and kareny then yeah they wouldn't be seen so negatively stereotypically.
I wouldn't say that they aren't hated, they just aren't valued. After 21 it is all down hill from there my friend. My advice, find something else that besides your looks and ability to reproduce that adds value to who you are.
Your fear is only contributing to the stigma. Live your life, make good choices, be happy, and own it. There will always be men like me who love older women anyway.
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I don't want to date younger men. I want someone around my age so a guy who love girls around his age
If he is a good man he will not leave you, besides he probably couldn't regardless of who ages better men still have far less bargaining power in the dating game usually.
Looks the opposite to me.. when a man is older he has all the power. Unless he was too dumb to build himself up at all when he was younger (and I don't just mean money/looks but also character/determination/backbone). There's a reason why it's mostly older women whining about their dating situation & not older men.
@asker The term incel is tossed around so much that it's meaningless. The real question is can you get a quality guy to take you seriously long term or not and the answer for you right now is 'no'. That's on you and for you to fix.
A lovely faithfull devoted woman is a blessing at any age... A man who loves you will never leave you for any other girl, no matter how much you age or look cause real love is something bigger than physical appearance...
Well give your virginity to an older man and you will most likely be taken care of. Otherwise used cars get traded in. Should have thought about it before you damaged your most valuable possession.
"Thought of my husband finding me less attractive and leaving me for younger women is scary and nightmare" makes your nightmare less likely to become your reality.
well I am not asking for too much. I am very faithful still virgin won't cheat love kid's and I am also educated and my family is very good I would take care of him.
Not talking about clothes. Talking about actual beauty. If you stood in a line of 100 girls nude with no makeup... where would you rank if judged by a group of men?
Guys in your dms mean nothing. It means you are a girl. here's the fact girls dont really understand. 99% of men are gladly ready to have sex with you. Only like 5% of men would ever under any circumstances marry you. So if you got 99 messages online from men only 5 would ever consider being serious with you. Now are you good at picking those 5? Probably not because i guarantee those 5 are not the hottest 5 or the richest 5 or even your age if they are under 25. That might sound weird or unfair or not your preference... but its life. Either play the game to win or refuse to play and by default lose.
Yes because men and women dont care about the same thing. So the fact you think that is true makes me think you have the kind of attitude marrying men dont like and you might not have the things marrying men are looking for. Being rich (are you or your family?) And educated does not matter to men. In their heads some will think it matters but just wait till a dumb bimbo in a 5 dollar dress shows up and see how much he cares then. Men care about looks, youth, housekeeping/childcare and obedience. Thats it. If he cares about your money or other things you have found a man who will cheat on you for sure.
If they want a rich or educated wife to the exclusion of the things i mentioned then usually they are wimpy men who do that, or cheat or have some kind of masculine energy/responsibility issue. there's nothing wrong with a woman who is educated but there is something wrong with a woman who can't cook well. Having an education is not an excuse. Understand what im saying?
Just because you see that doesn't mean they aren't highly flawed. I guarantee a woman who is educated is important but can't cook is ok... i would bet money they cheat, they let her cheat because they cannot satisfy her, or they are not responsible in private they ignore the wife to play video games or something like that. There are many ways it plays out but it always does somehow with these guys and the women who get with them.
Well I am talking about stereotypical high quality men rich educated very handsome tall and smart they have morals they won't cheat wimpy men? people respect them and some kind of masculine energy/responsibility issue? They take care of their family and kids and work they're very responsible and hard worker wimpy men who do that, or cheat or have some kind of masculine energy/responsibility issue.
I think so too. Especially since the rules they had for relationships have gone out the window the game is played different now. I think you can still get that kind of man but not unless he's older. Thats my take from my experiences and knowing my own motivations. Also most girls aren't a virgin. I think that will help you a lot towards getting at least close to what you want.
Typically relationships that last have incentives to stay together. In the past men made the money, women NEEDED the man just to live. Women of marriagable nature ie virgin were highly rare and prized possessions and a man would work to be able to afford to have a woman. Today this is not the normal dynamic at play in most cases. Men and women can just jump to whoever they want and they are actually rewarded for doing so. With an older man, he will have an incentive to stay with you because in theory he will have a harder time finding a younger woman. So if he has that he won't be able to find a better deal elsewhere. A woman with an older man he had his emotions wisdom and ideally finances in order he will be able to maintain order in the relationship a young man will struggle to. Older men still at least partially play by the old rules still ie desire a family unit and marriage and such. Young men are so turned of by that situation they just assume they will never get married or have kids and plan their life accordingly to go through girlfriends. I can also promise there are no top tier men of a young age willing to get married. If you find a early 20s man willing to get married he is defective in some way because there is every reason not to do that and no reasons to do it. So what man in his right mind would do such a thing? Those with weird motivations that we dont need to go into but one example would be a male gold digger he would be glad to marry a rich girl because he won't care if y'all work out or divorce since he's going to get alimony. Thats one of a few types of predatory young men out there.
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The part of society that hates older women is comprised of nothing but misogynistic asshats who 'value' younger women because they view them as an easy lay. So.. pick your poison.
I'd rather do without that group of people as a whole as I know that, regardless of my age/gender, I have more to offer than what's between my legs.
Yes, ageing is natural and you shouldn't fear it. Nowadays brands and companies don't care about people they only care about making money off of peoples insecurities mainly women making them think that they are too old to do, wear and have certain things. Half of the beauty staisrds out there are complete bs so people can make money off of people.
What you think is what you attract. If you constantly think that your man is going to leave you for a younger woman then that's what's going to happen. You need to change your mentality and stop fearing things that have not even happened because your subliminally creating these situations even if you don't intend them to happen.
I would say stop feeding into society, be happy with your own life, increase your confidence and just live your life.
I dont know if this helps you but I've seen 100x more married couples, growing old together and less than 10 cases in my life where old guys end up with young adults.
I can remember only 1 case where a 50 year old started dating a 20 year old. Now they are engaged, living normal life.
Add to my comment.
I dont think society hates old women. That is a word too strong. I think you are trying to ask as why older women are no longer found atractive by majority of men.
Listening to Society and Social Media is why Everyone is so Depressed. I am 66 years old and I Love being 66 years old and I do Not feel hated by society. I am very Vein and taking care of myself has Always been my Top Priority. A lot is women after getting married have Lost making “Taking Care of Themselves” a Top Priority!
Same reason why they hate old men... because some idiot in society told people to and like good little sheep, they did.
Real reason? There is no reason, because people in large numbers are straight up stupid. This is why people are always much kinder one on one than they are in groups.
The whole issue for women is that after 30 the chances of a healthy pregnancy and birth exponentially decrease. While sure mens sperm count might drop but there's still sperm non the less and men produce it until the day they die. While a womans eggs are effectively gone by 45.
Not as much as old men.
Telling that your beauty decays isn't hating you, it's just not loving you for your beauty.
Also, society, more precisely, women, lie to old men in order to get their resources, men hit the wall just as much.
You have a problem with believing hate is just not adoring you.
Listen according to your point of view, you may say old wo. en are disliked by the society. But for heaven's sake, there are still many people who love the old people. Especially women. If your husband leaves you then it's his fault and not yours.
I don’t agree with your premise that society hates old women. What is “society” anyway. Everything needs context.
There’s nothing wrong with it, I’m not sure about western culture but I’m my culture aging is celebrated. Grey hairs and wrinkles are a sign of someone’s wisdom
I don't hate old women but I think many old people are a little mean, very opinionated, think they are right about every subject, judge modern women like it's still 1938, and I'm sure there's more these are just quick observations
Old women are fine everyone loves grandma. But old unmarried women who don't have a family tend to be a drain on society at large. At least when us men get to old to work we have the common courtesy to just die
I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about but maybe if so many didn't act bitchy and kareny then yeah they wouldn't be seen so negatively stereotypically.
I wouldn't say that they aren't hated, they just aren't valued. After 21 it is all down hill from there my friend. My advice, find something else that besides your looks and ability to reproduce that adds value to who you are.
Your fear is only contributing to the stigma. Live your life, make good choices, be happy, and own it. There will always be men like me who love older women anyway.
I don't want to date younger men. I want someone around my age so a guy who love girls around his age
I'm sure I will sill like 50 year old women when I am 50, you really missed my point lol
Because they're not good for sex, can't have kids, and generally tend to be cranky. (No offense; just telling you how people feel.)
If he is a good man he will not leave you, besides he probably couldn't regardless of who ages better men still have far less bargaining power in the dating game usually.
Looks the opposite to me.. when a man is older he has all the power. Unless he was too dumb to build himself up at all when he was younger (and I don't just mean money/looks but also character/determination/backbone). There's a reason why it's mostly older women whining about their dating situation & not older men.
@hahahmm there are incels and most mgtow are old lol
@asker The term incel is tossed around so much that it's meaningless. The real question is can you get a quality guy to take you seriously long term or not and the answer for you right now is 'no'. That's on you and for you to fix.
@hahahmm lol why can't I get one?
Why else would you be so worried about a man leaving you. If/when you have a quality guy you won't think that.
@hahahmm because men in gag and internet tell me that all men love younger women and I am gonna age he can leave me because he would be a quality guy
@asker Looking like crap is a symptom of bad choices/character. So is being alone at 40+. So it all comes back to the same thing in the end.
A lovely faithfull devoted woman is a blessing at any age...
A man who loves you will never leave you for any other girl, no matter how much you age or look cause real love is something bigger than physical appearance...
Well give your virginity to an older man and you will most likely be taken care of. Otherwise used cars get traded in. Should have thought about it before you damaged your most valuable possession.
Why should I date older men?
"Thought of my husband finding me less attractive and leaving me for younger women is scary and nightmare" makes your nightmare less likely to become your reality.
but I won't find him attractive so it is lose lose situation
Yup and thats your life. Sorry bruh.
It is unfair I think that I deserve a faithful guy around my age because I am also faithful and young
Why would you be entitled to something almost no women get? Are you objectively better according to mens standards than 99.9% of women?
well I am not asking for too much. I am very faithful still virgin won't cheat love kid's and I am also educated and my family is very good I would take care of him.
And are you hot?
I think I am more on cuter side my clothes are more conservative
Not talking about clothes. Talking about actual beauty. If you stood in a line of 100 girls nude with no makeup... where would you rank if judged by a group of men?
Lol I don't know I am not a guy but I think that I am pretty cute and I have guys in my dms who want to date me so I guess I am desirable
Guys in your dms mean nothing. It means you are a girl. here's the fact girls dont really understand. 99% of men are gladly ready to have sex with you. Only like 5% of men would ever under any circumstances marry you. So if you got 99 messages online from men only 5 would ever consider being serious with you. Now are you good at picking those 5? Probably not because i guarantee those 5 are not the hottest 5 or the richest 5 or even your age if they are under 25. That might sound weird or unfair or not your preference... but its life. Either play the game to win or refuse to play and by default lose.
Well so according to you a young rich good looking educated girl who want a young rich good looking educated guy have high standard?
Yes because men and women dont care about the same thing. So the fact you think that is true makes me think you have the kind of attitude marrying men dont like and you might not have the things marrying men are looking for. Being rich (are you or your family?) And educated does not matter to men. In their heads some will think it matters but just wait till a dumb bimbo in a 5 dollar dress shows up and see how much he cares then. Men care about looks, youth, housekeeping/childcare and obedience. Thats it. If he cares about your money or other things you have found a man who will cheat on you for sure.
I know many rich guys in my family and most of them have educated rich wife
What kind of attitude I have?
Well most people in my family can afford maids
looks, youth, housekeeping/childcare and obedience. Youth and looks both fade
In my family men want a equal not a maid. they like smart and classy women so I don't see why I can't expect that from my husband
If they want a rich or educated wife to the exclusion of the things i mentioned then usually they are wimpy men who do that, or cheat or have some kind of masculine energy/responsibility issue. there's nothing wrong with a woman who is educated but there is something wrong with a woman who can't cook well. Having an education is not an excuse. Understand what im saying?
I can cook anyway but thing is I don't need to cook neither most women in my family why would he care about cooking if he can afford maids?
Just because you see that doesn't mean they aren't highly flawed. I guarantee a woman who is educated is important but can't cook is ok... i would bet money they cheat, they let her cheat because they cannot satisfy her, or they are not responsible in private they ignore the wife to play video games or something like that. There are many ways it plays out but it always does somehow with these guys and the women who get with them.
Well I am talking about stereotypical high quality men rich educated very handsome tall and smart they have morals they won't cheat wimpy men? people respect them and some kind of masculine energy/responsibility issue? They take care of their family and kids and work they're very responsible and hard worker
wimpy men who do that, or cheat or have some kind of masculine energy/responsibility issue.
Never met one like that that cared about a womans education very much. But if you can find so many of them whats your problem?
Problem is that I am scared about becoming old and my husband finding me less attractive and leaving me for a younger women
But the men you know like that never leave or cheat and are perfect? So you're just being irrational.
People change how am I supposed to know if they won't cheat? I am young now but I won't stay young
Do all the perfect husbands leave or cheat on their wives when they get older? If not then why do you have this idea it will happen to you?
I don't know many men on internet think so
I think so too. Especially since the rules they had for relationships have gone out the window the game is played different now. I think you can still get that kind of man but not unless he's older. Thats my take from my experiences and knowing my own motivations. Also most girls aren't a virgin. I think that will help you a lot towards getting at least close to what you want.
Why he need to be older?
Typically relationships that last have incentives to stay together. In the past men made the money, women NEEDED the man just to live. Women of marriagable nature ie virgin were highly rare and prized possessions and a man would work to be able to afford to have a woman. Today this is not the normal dynamic at play in most cases. Men and women can just jump to whoever they want and they are actually rewarded for doing so. With an older man, he will have an incentive to stay with you because in theory he will have a harder time finding a younger woman. So if he has that he won't be able to find a better deal elsewhere. A woman with an older man he had his emotions wisdom and ideally finances in order he will be able to maintain order in the relationship a young man will struggle to. Older men still at least partially play by the old rules still ie desire a family unit and marriage and such. Young men are so turned of by that situation they just assume they will never get married or have kids and plan their life accordingly to go through girlfriends. I can also promise there are no top tier men of a young age willing to get married. If you find a early 20s man willing to get married he is defective in some way because there is every reason not to do that and no reasons to do it. So what man in his right mind would do such a thing? Those with weird motivations that we dont need to go into but one example would be a male gold digger he would be glad to marry a rich girl because he won't care if y'all work out or divorce since he's going to get alimony. Thats one of a few types of predatory young men out there.
Because they're supposed to have loving families by the time they're old. If they fail to do that then they fail at living a civilized life.