u All men do not hate older women.
When a man gets older, younger women do not lose their appeal. Younger women are attractive and they will always be attractive. And when men are younger, most of them are not attracted to older women. But as we get older, many of us are attracted to women in our own age group even though they have become older (just as we have gotten older.)
There are some guys who chase after older women because they think that an older woman may be able to teach them something about sex, or she will be extremely grateful to have a younger man as a lover. Those guys are a minority.
About five years ago, I had a younger woman express a strong interest in having a relationship with me. It was flattering, as she is very attractive and bright, and she would have been a wonderful partner in many ways. However, I knew that the age difference would ultimately be a huge problem for us and I decided that I should not pursue a brief relationship just to have the sexual experience.
I am not alone. Many older men want long term partners and. . . they may turn and look at that pretty young girl passing by, but what they want is to go home with you.
by the way, you are still a young woman.
Why would my partner want me still if he wants that young girl?
Haven’t you ever fantasized about something that you would never do in real life?
Depending on what. But, let’s be honest: There’s a bigger chance your partner will still want that person they saw and do everything in their power to go hookup with them.
That’s just how it goes because it happens way too often.
@asker The reality is generally men want younger girls, but to go as far and say we “hate” them is pretty extreme. I like older women because they don’t play games and are mature, but as a man that wants children, I have to generally stick to girls below 30.
The other challenge is that women who are still single or not married after 30 usually have a lot of baggage and in this country, women can get away with murder 😂
1. Fertility for a family oriented man is important.
2. Women tend to make more immoral life choices than men, and the older she is, the more likely she has made choices that make her totally unacceptable as a partner.
3. Older women tend to have more debt that they then expect the man to pay off if they stay together.
4. Most of the time, the reason a woman is single when older is because she had casual sex for years, used education as an excuse (it doesn't take 12+ years to get a degree so it is a lie when they say they spent their 20s in college), she has kids from past mistakes and now wants someone to take care of them, she has a bad personality, or she is unattractive.
5. The women that are currently older tend to be feminist, sexist, unfair, selfish/greedy, and dishonest. (Not because of their age, it is many women from gen x and millennials, even when they were in their early 20s they were that way). The majority of them were always bad potential partners.
They aren't hated, it is just that me, and many good quality men have no interest in them. (or in younger ones either if they have the same moral qualities and pasts as I listed earlier.)
I’m 31 and never been in a relationship. Is it better to remain single for the remainder of my life?
Even in my 20s, I’ve never been in a relationship. Men just found me repulsive. They still do. So I just stay away and don’t bother.
As a girl , i would say makeup saved my life.
Also Dress up.
And look for guys in better places.
Dont try dating app.
U can definitely find someone who think u r attractive.
2-5 are just incorrect. Sounds like you think all women are evil
@DrPepper12 Actually they are correct. Promiscuity, stealing kids from fathers, more women in education abusing children, more common to have student loan debt, and it does NOT take 12+ years to get a degree like I said.
Disagree but we still had a dialogue and thats important these days!
In real life they can't even tell our age in most cases. So far I haven't experienced hate by men regarding my age in my every day life.
I have experienced hate online by men who for some reason think men look better than women as they get older.
I don't know what makes them think that since that is something that it fully depends on each person and it has nothing to do with gender. Perhaps they want to feel better about themselves regarding aging yet they want to bash women at the same time for aging?
No clue.
You can look good at any age regardless of your gender, it has mostly to do with genetics and whether you take care of yourself or not.
Well said!!
a lot of it is projection. These men are really scared of aging. They know they die sooner than women and have less options as they get older. A woman could literally be 90 years old and ugly and still get attention from men while men could be 20 in their prime and best shape of their life and get no attention from women.
@Juxtapose I dare you to call your own mother an old ugly hag.
@Juxtapose 90 year old women regularly get raped. It's a huge problem
@Juxtapose my grandmother is 80 years old. She went on a dating site once and had so many messages the next day she was overwhelmed and deleted her account. They definitely get more attention then even the best men
@Juxtapose even irl men will give unwanted attention to women constantly. I'm like super pregnant right now and keep getting hit on. Like men will go after vulnerable women (including older women) just because it's easier for them. Which most men never receive unwanted attention in the same way as women do regardless of age
@Juxtapose def not lol
True!!! 💯
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Well going to disagree... I am definitely a mature woman and I can say with confidence men do not hate me at all. I have never encountered this.
But you’re a sick fuck too so
@northerngal I will join you in disagreement. Why would any man hate an older woman? Admittedly, Iām old, but Iāve never hated older women. When I was young I actually preferred older women. Furthermore, my wife gets more attention than lots of younger women!
You aren't even old. You've barely started. I'm more than twice as old as you, and have been an adult almost four times as long as you. 31 seems like ages ago to me.
Anyway, the trick is to age gracefully. Like you said, you can't do anything about it. You don't have to like it, nobody does. But you do have to accept it and not let it get you down. There is no need to carry the burden of not accepting your age. It will just wear you down twice as fast. It's difficult for some people, but most grow old gracefully.
Accept it, and make the best of your life no matter how old you get. A lot of people consider their retirement years as the best in their life. I don't know if that's true with me, but it's certainly in contention for the best years.
You are as young as you feel. You are as young as you act. There is also a lot you can do to keep up your health.
But it seems weird even talking about you getting old. You are very young. Worry about getting old when you actually get old, not when you are barely an adult.
We don't. But older women are the equivalent of a person that thinks the man should pay full price for used goods. Nobody would do that if they were buying a car why would you expect a guy to do that. And these women get outraged about it. Which makes them either oblivious to thier current value, or downright egoistic. Anybody with common sense would be turned off by that.
The mistake you're making is you're thinking that men hate older women. That's simply not true. But you WILL regarded with what you bring to the table. And with most older women that's a trunkful of baggage. So think about it logically. You expect him to do more, get less, and pay the same amount? What fool would take that deal unless they were really desperate?
Most men (not all) have NO PROBLEM accepting an older woman so long as she's realistic about her current value and acts accordingly. Would you want to date a homeless guy? Didn't think so. Would you want to date a homeless guy the just sponges off you? Again didn't think so. So why would you expect a man to accept the social equivalent from an older woman?
Glad I could help.🙂👍
So it’s only women who think too highly of themselves?
Yeah I can see how that’s problematic.
No, I'm sure women have gripes to. Do you feel older men think highly of themselves.
Most probably think that way too.
And I didn't say women think too highly of themselves. I said the overestimate thier value.
Most of these women who overestimate thier value actually hate themselves.
I can agree to that.
🙂👍
Though I’m curious about something: If a husband leaves his wife because she got older, is it her fault?
That's not easily answered because now you're talking about the dynamics of longterm relationships not just the gender dynamics in dating.
I'd have to know her, I'd have to know him. I'd have to know the high points of what precipitated it. Did she drive him away? Did he have a midlife crisis? The main thing that leads to splits is 2 people grow apart. Being the age I am I now see a lot of my married friends splitting and the thing that seems the biggest reason is the kids leaving the nest. Think about it. You meet as kids, you fall in love you start building a life, next comes kids. After that the two become parents united in raising those kids. Life takes precedence over love. All of a sudden those kids are fully grown and those two lovebirds 20 years. Later are 2 strangers with no longer having kids to fill that void, they can't connect anymore because 20 years later they're completely different people. They grew apart. . It's sad, but it happens. So I'd say that's probably the biggest cause of dissolution of long time marriages
So why did your friends marry and have kids if they were just going to split?
When I'm sure they never saw them growing apart like that. It wasn't intentional. And thier kids are all grown.
I donāt know about hating, but according to evolutionary biology within our species, we are attracted to the aspects of the opposite sex that lead to conception or fertility. Men are honed in on cues signaling fertility within women. One of these cues is youthful appearance, and if you examine the data when peak fertility occurs in women its around 21 years of age. This means men, regardless of age, are most attractive to 21-year-old women. Another unfortunate fact is that menās fertility tends to increase as they age because their status and ability to acquire resources increase with age as well. So men donāt peak until theyāre about 31.
I hope this isnāt bringing you more pessimism, but honestly, you can throw that out because individuals you meet in person can vary more than these generalizations state. Work on yourself, go to therapy (not for talking about your childhood but for cognitive behavioral therapy), build your self-esteem up, and anything past thatā¦ Who cares? Just be yourself; people will like you.
Suppose you want any last parting wisdom from evolutionary biology and ecology that may give you some optimism within humans and most other species when ecological conditions are good, it is advantageous to have a male because they are the high-risk, high-reward sex. When ecological conditions are harsh, having a female is beneficial because that guarantees your offspring will have offspring of their own. What this means is you have all the cards in your hands, and evolutionarily speaking, you were destined to end up with someone; thatās not what the Incelsā on here can say. They were destined to die alone.
I think most of the animosity you see towards older women is about them refusing to settle when they are young, but expecting high value men to settle with them when they are old. And at the same time, seeing older women shame men for being attracted to younger women.
With that being said, anyone shaming someone for literally just being old, is an idiot. It's a biological process that happens to all of us. And it goes both ways too. Girls on social media absolutely shame men for existing while old. Joey Swole (an anti-bullying influencer) calls them out for it all the time.
Some of these replies above are pretty accurate, particularly the Anonymous one above. I wonāt repeat their points but Iāll add this: it would be very simplistic to make a connection that men hate older women. Truth is most older women have a man in their life, or are simple single and wonāt ever be otherwise.
Relationships are blending of two lives and require a lot of patience, understanding, and compromise. Some people (men and women both) arenāt very capable of these things and it makes having a relationship very difficult or impossible for them. Maybe in their youth they had the gift of beauty and could attract more men to the table but, if those same men later see sheās not compatible with a respectful relationship then they leave. Eventually lacking the beauty of her youth she simply blames men for not respecting older women when the truth may very well be she was never a desirable woman - looks not withstanding at all.
A POV i never considered! Very perceptive! Ty!!
Thank you. Nasty people end up alone. Beautiful nasty people can trick some until their true nature is revealed.
Men don't hate older women, most of the time they're more kind and live in the real world. It's more like young women can sometimes believe that they're amazing at everything, they have the best personality, life is so easy and men just suck and complain too much, if they're having a hard time in life. Then Karma arrives at some point. I think that's what some men are talking about. It's not that they hate older women, it's seeing someone who they found annoying being humbled.
Weather that's right or wrong you can have your own opinions about that. For some guys I guess they don't have many pleasures in their life so this gives them some solace some reassurance that life is fair and things even out over time.
Unfortunately some women as they get older, become bitter so they kind of bring it on themselves to a certain extent. Undoubtedly, guys and other girls contribute to that bitterness, but it comes down to her making better choices for her.
Attitude is everything, so my advice is for those older women who choose this path is to get out and do things that make them happy and step away from those people or things that make you bitter. Get rid of friends constantly put you down as they aren't friends at all if they constantly drag you down to their level.
No clue honestly. I see lots of older women that look beautiful and are nice, so I don't know what issue those men are having with finding a woman their age. Then again, maybe some of those men are actually crappy and are mad that a woman their age can see what they're playing, while a younger woman wouldn't and would put up with it longer than needed.
Most men have no such problem. The males that do have that problem can simply be avoided, and usually don't get much human interaction IRL anyway so not really a problem.
Well, that is because men are visual creatures and so outer beauty, looks do matter to us (men). Usually physical beauty looks are connected with age.
However, that does not mean men hate older women, they just may not have a preference for them.
Not having preference and outright hating are two different things.
So, if a woman marries young and have kids, would it be her fault her husband left because she got older?
@Peridot25
No, it won't be her fault.
@Peridot25
Simple logic, nobody remains young and beautiful forever.
Men don't hate older women. If you are talking about physical beauty and dating, then, yes, men prefer younger women. We've evolved to prefer health and fertility and many years of child-bearing ability in women. Genes that cause men to have these preferences are most likely to get passed on.
Men can be quite harsh toward women who waste their fertile years pursuing a career while neglecting the need to start a family, only to act surprised that they are no longer able to attract a partner or get pregnant when they are 40 and finally decide to settle down.
What @OlderAndWiser said. I don't believe for a sec that ALL men hate older women. It's just that they still have eyeballs in their head at any age and like the perky young things still. Doesn't mean they can't appreciate the vintage models. ;)
Probably more of a fear than a hatred. I don't know how women seem to so easily cope with their own mortality but men tend to struggle with it after a certain age. Any reminder that we are constantly getting older is harrowing and grim and if getting hostile towards it makes it go away then that's what's likely to happen.
Men don't "hate" older women.
Men just aren't sexually attracted to older women.
And it is kinda funny that women take it super personally either way.
Well guess what: Older women just achieve the baseline status that men live with for their entire lives.
I think it’s because husbands leave their wives once they get older.
Lol you were making a point for having your preferences and being very brutal about it so you have no room to talk really. It is the way of the world, the more younger women are the more appealing they are and that is to do with biology. Younger women have less complicated pregnancies and are less likely to have kids with health problems.
There’s nothing wrong with having preferences. I just hope men don’t leave their wives after they grow older and abandon their children.
I just hear so many horror stories about husbands doing that because they expect their wives to stay young forever and stay at a certain age.
I'm losing my metabolism gift gradually so it's happening to us 30 guys as much as the women who complain they're getting on in years aka closer to menopause even or the middle age.
Ah well.
The 20s seem like they'd last forever yet they're all not timeless. Ah well ā¤ļøā🩹😆
So chin up everyone and do the best ya can with just chugging along as the steam trains that you all are, because taxes. Because taxes 💜🫰🏻👍🏻
"y'all exist to work and work to work " I love that sort of motto lol 😆😆😆😆 if was one
I hate to say this because it's wrong but perhaps if men were exploited or marginalized they might learn a thing or two. This wouldn't be the first or last time men make impossible demands on women.
I dont hate older women. If this was the case, that all men hated them for becoming fat, wrinkly and decayed, no grandparents would live together. If people were that shallow, there would not be overpopulation on earth.
Ho on Timder or other dating sites to get fresh air, network with new people , away from toxic guys.
Someoneās never heard of milfs!😂 Iāll say some men donāt like āolder womenā. And Iām sure some dick head men will judge a woman based on her age but if weāre being honest people from both genders judge each other pretty cruelly. Like height vs weight. Or wealth vs body count debates. Ik that in some cultures men try to marry the youngest they can get😬. But in a lot of western societies I think most people try to keep dating in their age range.
We donāt. But we are visual creatures, and will always get distracted by the next pretty young thing. Itās also cruel that older guys can still pull younger girls, whether by looks, finances, or stability. We can still knock you up in our 70s while you stop bearing children and often have a serious drop libido by your 50s. It sucks, but we donāt make the rules. We just cum as much and in as many places as we can.
I don't categorically hate older women. I am VERY attracted to some of them.
I do hate Karens but Karen behavior is occurs in all age groups and genders. It is not limited to older women at all.
I don't experience that. They're very nice to me.
You're in the prime of life, Peridot. You must not be meeting the right guys.
Because they think they should be with a freshly 18 year old model
We don't. Older women are less attractive, yes, but men don't hate them.
Sounds like you're projecting something personal rather than this being general. I don't hate older women. Doesn't mean I'd date them though which I suspect is what this is about.
No projection here. I was mostly curious what men thoughts are. Because a lot of men have this mentality that women stay young forever and never age. Then they get mad when they find out women grow old.
*mens
Which isn't true at all hence it seemed like projecting.
What about men leaving their wives because they aged?
why would I hate "older" women?
there is no way I would have any interest in a 20 something.
Iām 34 years old, do you think that I am old?
Jen, you are 34 years young
I don't think hate is the right word but older women just physically look ugly and no longer physically appealing.
That explains why husbands divorce their wives.
Not necessarily. People divorce for all sorts of reasons.
Only the older women who blame men for them being single at that age
how are men hating on older women?
aging comes with different pros and cons for both men and women
I get along well with older women, they're usually more interesting to talk to, so I'm not sure what you're referring to.
Old men want young women, young men want older women.
I don't know any males who hates females based on age
I don't, Never have. I in fact prefer older.
I don't hate them, but they are no longer sexually interesting.
Bullying is a lifestyle for some people.
That's a false question. Nobody hates that you get older. Please ask what you are really wanting to know
Cause a lot of women sleep around with Chads in their 20s, then in her 30s she makes guys wait for sex, go on dates, etc. They feel jipped
Because men will only receive their first flower when they die.
I dont hate older ladies? Cause I love them so much?
Don't hate them, just want to have kids and they are less able to than younger women.
Men donāt hate older women
i don't. what's your research?
For many men (not all), youth = fertility.
But, even young women age. So, what are they going to do once their young wife gets older?
That’s all a part of the fantasy. Once a woman gets “too old”, they’ll just get a younger woman and just start the cycle all over again.
I have no problem with them
I don't;I just don't want to date them.
No one hates older women.
u I never have
Same reason why women hate older men so much.
I didn't know we did?
they are feral
We don't hate. Maybe some of them around u.
I don't. Why do they hate them? What reason?
never heard of this before
it's ok because we hate old men too
20-30 child, 30-40 good nice
They're meaner lol
I would prefer to date an woman who is 2 to 5 years older than me. Although I must set her expectations that I'm only a guy living in the rural areas so I cannot give her the financial luxury that she might ask.
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