Do you think people saying “support black owned businesses” is a racist statement?

[Anonymous]

[Pj1981]

Yes, I think the whole black lives matter, support black business thing is definitely racist (Why not all lives matter) I can promise you the police have definitely treated my white ass unfairly as well. More than once. I've been to prison and had seriously racist black and White C. O's and I have a difficult time understanding how the country works to fight racism with racism by broadcasting only one race matters. Taliban are about to use the weapons we gave them on us and the US is stuck on one race and all genders, the last application I filled out had 5 or moreto choose from. Anyone that isn't supporting those ideas are white supremacist or just ignorant. Everyone wants equality but demands special treatment. It's absolutely impossible as long as we have too say black business, black lives, Even WET is racist. Or at least it would be if it was called WET. We all need to get the fuck over ourselves and look at each other as people instead of a damn color. Unfortunately I will never see it cause one color or the other is always trying to tip the scales in their direction. Petty, on all sides. And F%$^ Blue lives matter also causes cops are going to continue to write reports dishonest, throw people around and charge them with assault and robbery cause when they threw you to the ground your hand grazed their leg as you try to stop yourself from hitting the pavement. That graze was too close to the gun so automatically you tried to rob an officer of his weapon then violently punched his leg when the robbery failed. I saw this shit with my own eyes on a white guy. Cop's think of themselves as superior to all rather than racist. ( Police that don't fudge reports, treat citizens like humans, and don't throw bs charges at people so that arrest records improve, I sincerely apologize, I know your out there somewhere) sorry for rambling it's a sensitive subject cause racism was stupid 6000 years ago in Egypt and stupid now.

[wtf636]

I wouldn't say it's racist, and I understand the point. It is needed in many ways. But that being said...

I generally think anyone that supports someone just because they are "insert race/gender/sexual identity" is kind of an idiot. Just like someone who doesn't go to a business for the same reasons is an idiot.

Identity politics are dumb, and they create more problems than they solve. You want to be equal, but then you want people to treat you special because you are different. It doesn't make sense and causes people to form groups and choose sides, rather than bring people together.

Everyone should shop wherever they want, and people should mind their own fucking business. If you have to guilt someone into using your business, then it might not be that great to begin with. If you run a good business, people will come regardless of whatever you are.

[LauraFall89]

That statement means nothing if read alone without a context. The context is and has been social, economic, political and cultural oppression from whites towards blacks. If this comment hurts, remember that slavery, poverty and social exclusion hurt even more.

In such context, a statement that would otherwise be considered out of place, gains a powerful meaning: support us, blacks, who have gone through hell, to finally bring dignity to our homes and love ones.

PS: I am not black, just have that thing called empathy that is somehow eager towards social justice.

[Built_Like_a_Tank]

You don't have such thing as empathy. You just parrot whatever the media says and think too high of yourself.

[molly4306666]

thank you someone understands that some people weren’t born into wealth like how most white people were : (you know the only ones i saw on Tv growing up such as news reporters, actors etc.) poor communities have to work 10x harder & tell me which race you see the most when you pass by those communities?

[David_Kek]

You don't have empathy, what you are is a virtue signaler. Just because you hate yourself doesn't give you a pass to project it on others.

[Smoke-n-Growls]

Nah. It's not like they're barring me from shopping where I want.

And I appreciate knowing that I'm supporting a Black owned business. It's just like I appreciate knowing I'm supporting local.

I like to know where my money's going, so I can direct less of it to rich department stores and more of it to local business - no matter who owns them.

It's not a matter of race. It's a matter of being a consumer who knows where my money goes. I don't have a lot of purchasing power, so I gotta spend it wisely where I have some.

[OlderAndWiser]

If they said "support white-owned businesses," would that be a racist statement?

[haphazard]

Of course it would be, because leftists are spreading the false and dangerous theory that only whites are racist.

[Grubhub]

Blacks don’t have the power whites have so that’s different

[haphazard]

That's called critical race theory, also known as divisive Marxist bullshit.

[OlderAndWiser]

@Grubhub

1. So you don't want a society that is color blind but a society that gives preferences to some people based on the color of their skin?

2. "Power," as you are using the word, is a very subjective descriptor. Who decides when the "power" is equal so that the preferential treatment can stop?

3. Giving one set of people more power than another set of people is not a formula for creating equality and I suspect that you will deny this but the motivation of the CRT crowd is not equality.

[ThisDudeHere]

I don't get it - the left was uppity with the word ''black'' and wanted everyone to instead say ''African American'', but now they are using black themselves?

[BeMuse]

They are regressing… Civil rights participants wanted to be seen as Americans just like everyone else. During the time of segregation they were seen as separate from other Americans. It was hard to get the public to see them as Americans at that point in history. So they move the goal post towards African Americans which was a step in condition the public towards just seeing them as Americans. Today 86% of the Black community are communists that support the BLM. They don’t see themselves as Americans. They call themselves n! ggers face to face, but like the term Americans they feel it’s a little too far to move the goal post in one generation, so they are trying to move the goal post back to Black in public. They really want to be n! ggers, but that is socially unacceptable at this point in history and would take a lot of work to condition public opinion.

[BeMuse]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANB5zTl-nrY

[ThisDudeHere]

@BeMuse lol why do you sensor n** and capitalize black? :D

[menina]

No. It's a statement to support business that might be struggling. Why does everything that involves supporting black people is considered racist? When people say that they're not saying that white people shouldn't be supported, they're just saying that black people need support too.

[JustAnj]

I don't take things to personally, a lot of times I see this as they want to be specific and I do assume it is usually a black person asking to support the black community. To slip into my head further then that would be ignorant to imply a pessimistic view and hatful projection.

People who want to view everything directly personal are creating the atrack in themselves. If they purposely say this directly saying negative things instead of it being innocent and misunderstood, then yeah makes sense. Though asduming this is a hateful projection is ignorant in itself. We don't know enough to know that is the intention don't allow your mind to bully you.

[BCA6010]

If you're going to promote businesses based on the skin color of the owners and/or managers, then you either have to tolerate the same attitude from ALL others without exception, or accept the fact that everybody is going to hate you for being a racist.

The irony of the fact that BLM and ANTIFA torched a disproportionately large number of "black owned and operated businesses" during last year's riots while simultaneously calling everybody else racists still makes me chuckle and shake my head in disgust a year later.

[VDrago14]

Yes,

A statement like that implies that the only reason you support their business is simply because of the color of their skin, when in truth it should have no bearing as to why you are shopping there. As a business their top priorities should be taking care of the customers, and their employees.

I'll give an example, there was a local comic book shop in which the manager at the time was a black female. I shopped there because of the goods they offered, and the excellent customer service. We also chatted about comics we liked and had a mutual love for Transformers. The fact that she was a black female had nothing to do with why I shopped there, and it would have been the same if it was a white male. Customer service is what keeps people returning. The color of their skin is of zero consequence if they are doing the right thing.

[Bobme]

Yes vary racist.
Just shop where you want as long as you get what you want. If its black owned who cares? As long as they have what you want why would you even think about it that way. People over think so much so they don't hurt someones "feelings ". Well toughen up it is a harsh world out there. Just mind your own business and if someone says something that hurts your "feelings " cupcake you will get over it. Remember, these low points in life make it easy to see a bright future when you are on the bottom you can only go up.
Have a nice day.

[Mishan97]

At the end of the day, nobody can force anyone to shop anywhere. I don’t find it racist because it’s just another way of promoting your business. Just as some businesses advertise that they are family owned, etc, these businesses have a right to advertise that they are black owned if they believe that will bring them more customers. You can still choose to shop at whichever business you feel gives you the best experience. So, I don’t find it racist at all.

[Cathy7734]

I liked your reply and gave it a "thumbs up." It's a very good point.

[Mishan97]

@Cathy7734 thank you😊

[SaoirseS]

Exactly!

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

It's a dog whistle for getting rid of the so called "regulatory burden" that is supposedly holding businesses from getting started in black neighborhoods. Here's the thing, when regulations were laxed in the 2000s, it allowed predatory lending to run rampant, taking billions of dollars from the black community (partially leading to the crash of 2008) and making it hard for black businesses to expand once established while outside businesses crept in, taking revenue from black neighborhoods without reinvesting capital. So when people talk about how "black businesses matter" what they mean is make the black community more vulnerable to predatory lending practices.

[Lillie_xo]

I mean it can be interpreted that way but I dont think its meant to be
You could see it as: "Support business', regardless of race"
or you could see it as: "Support black business' instead of white ones"
obv there are other ways you can interpret it but those are the first two that came to mind
I would say it's intended as the first one because thats the one that actually goess with BLM's goal
but I wouldn't know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Oigit]

I don't see how it is racist. For me its a sign like any other. Though I do think its funny as hell when people get angry over a sign in a window or a t-shirt. Because such things only have as much power over you as you give them. If you are choosing to get angry at such thigs you are giving such things a lot of power over you.

[kyleelyn199723]

I wouldn’t say racist, but more like entitled. Why is someone’s business worthy to me because of their skin color? If I’m not interested in their business, I’m not buying from it. That includes any business.

[Asker]

Very true. To me it is racist because if it said “support white owned businesses” then there would be a problem.

[kyleelyn199723]

In their eyes I think it might be a problem , but that I don’t think it’s racist either. I think it’s just entitlement.

[Asker]

Thank you for your opinion and for replying. 😀

[molly4306666]

we’re obviously not forcing you to buy from a black owned business you have no interest in just like any other business. if you’ve been to any black business and liked something about it support it by telling your friends or family about it. simply because most blacks come from poor communities and have to work 10x harder I don't know it’s that’s something new you’ve just discovered lol but drive by a poor community and tell me which race you see that’ll help out if your confused

[kyleelyn199723]

@molly4306666 it has nothing to do with that and I do come from a community that is diverse. No one can force anyone to do anything, however I do think there is some sort of entitlement attached to “support a black owned business”

[molly4306666]

what do you mean it has nothing to do with that we surely don’t say it because we think we’re superior to others lol… what in the world

[kyleelyn199723]

Where did I say you guys thought you were superior? I said it comes down to an entitlement. Skin color shouldn’t be brought into a business organization unless if it has to do with skin color or cultural differences such as hair

[molly4306666]

i’m telling you one reasons and it’s definitely not entitlement & yeah it shouldn’t so why am i from the south and seeing mainly whites at big businesses like clinics and such.

[kyleelyn199723]

@molly4306666 a black person has the same opportunity as whites people. They’re many successful black people out there. Stop the nonsense. And Black Lives Matter movement all comes down to entitlement.

[molly4306666]

they do but they have to work 10x harder because they were built into wealth like others. & i never said all there’s no successful black out there. we don’t need other people to feel entitled but i’ll say this everyone does need support. no need to force but if you like something about the business it wouldn’t hurt to support it easily

[weeee]

I dont get this combative stance people have on everything.

"black lives matter" means "white lives dont matter". "support black owned businesses" means "dont support white owned businesses". Like what. Those things aren't mutually exclusive. People always want to spin things around and make it about themselves.

[haphazard]

Yes it is, because it first and foremost implies that black owned businesses are not supported. Second, it encourages people to spend their money at black owned businesses instead of other ethnic owned businesses. If someone promoted spending money at white owned businesses instead people would be whining day in and day out about racism. You can't have it both ways.

[jshm2]

No. That's as daft as asserting "Support cancer charities" means fuck all other charities. Or that "support children" is ageist and you're demanding old people be kicked to the kerb.

You don't live in a dichotomy, and can support multiple things without one needing be exclusive.

[Anonymous]

No, to me "supporting black owned" is choosing to help in developing black communities. Richer communities have better schools, mental health providers... Ultimately money is more influential than any protest. I also think that the message is not just directed at non blacks. Black people should go out their way to support their community.

[Anonymous]

This seems segregated. Why only support black? What about Asian? Latino, Middle-Eastern? What about the local diner down the street owned by white people? Support local business sounds so much better. Advertising all small or big local businesses should be a thing. All this does, is make people more divided. It's basically saying that they do matter, but they're the only ones that matter.

[weeee]

This is like being sad your pet died and someone comes up and goes "other people's pets die too, why dont you get depressed for them? "

[Opinion Owner]

@weeee because no one is talking about it as a general problem. It's talked about for a specific group of people. This alienates other groups. If you're going to include one group of people, then you need to include the others as well. And people do get sad generally when their pets die. It's universal. But when someone barges in and says, "only Yorkie death" should matter above any of the other deaths, then it's just wrong and selfish. It's saying only my group matters.

[weeee]

"If you're going to include one group of people, then you need to include the others as well."

No you don't? Why should you? You really think you can address everyone's problems all the time at once? Would you object to a fundraiser for children with leukemia too because children with lymphoma exist too?

[SaoirseS]

No I don’t. It’s no different from Veteran-owned, locally-owned, or family-owned.

[Peterness]

Veteran-owned is not a race
locally-owned is not a race
family-owned is not a race

Whites only is racist
Blacks only is racist

There is a big difference. Your examples include all races equally.

[SaoirseS]

You're missing the why (hyphenated) owned is used in the first place. A business lists itself as Veteran-Owned to appeal to veterans, or those who support veterans, but does not exclude doing business with anyone. Family- or locally-owned gun stores use the term in promoting their business to encourage people to support mom and pop shops rather than taking their business to big box retailers. Native American-owned businesses have been promoting themselves in communities for years solely as a means of letting fellow Native Americans know they're in business, and hopefully encouraging fellow Native Americans to shop there. The public gets it, and nobody gets her panties/his man panties in a bunch over it. So if the black community wants to advertise itself as black-owned to let blacks know they're in business and subtly encourage them to shop there, so what? It's just marketing. People are free to pick and choose where they shop, with or without knowing anything about the proprietors. Freedom, you know.

[Peterness]

I agree with you 100%. I'm not saying it is necessarily bad. I'm just pointing out that if you use race as the hook to get people into your store or if you use race as the reason to shop at this store and avoided that store it is racist. It is easier to see when you flip it and say "These white businesses are having a hard time so we should shop white only". Because of our history, that statement is quickly and accurately labeled racist. I think we should be careful when we turn the tables. We do not want to give anti-black groups fodder for their hate. (not that they need any).

[SaoirseS]

@Peterness. I understand what you're saying. I certainly don't think it's racist, but I don't think window signage that a business is black-owned is a good idea either. There's media for marketing black-owned business without putting a sign in the window that's sure to irritate someone. If you want to find black-owned businesses here, just look for it. Like here: www.visitkc.com/support-black-owned-kc-businesses

[rjroy3]

No. I could understand why it sounds pretentious coming from non black people tho. Virtue signaling. That's like saying you're anti whatever country if you say "Buy American".

You're not saying fuck everyone else. You're saying support within. at least when it's black people saying it. When it's others I don't know. It sounds disgusting to me

[David_Kek]

If you flipped it and said "support white owned businesses", nobody would say that isn't racist. The mentality of having one rule for one, and one rule for another on the basis of race, is racist.
Of course this is racist. The only difference is in this day and age this is a type of racism that is deemed acceptable in mainstream society, for better or worse.