Freedom means taking responsibility for yourself and yourself alone sweetheart. No one is responsible for anyone the only thing we can do is use our freedom is to voice our opinions and beliefs leave law making to science and science alone not politicians
That's quite the analogy you came up with. But your freedoms end, where mine begins. You're free to shoot yourself in the face.
Just a small correction. We aren't a democracy. I agree with you on some things. What needs paired with Freedom is rights of the individual, and thats what creates safety. But pure safety above Freedom is a prison and turns everyone into subjects.
That's true. It's an American dichotomy
Thats where your wrong. Freedom isn't bieng able to shoot someone for a hot dog. Its bieng able to shoot the guy who's trying to shoot you for your hot dog
You really think your safety and life matters to someone else who happens to be in a position of power? You are certainly a naive little girl sweetheart...
@JimBeams oh noooo, big strong man with a guuun. So scared. Totally didn't see this response coming.@Amur8711 Agreed we need both. I voted Safety because there was no "both" option and I knew the alt-right faction here would chose Freedom and I didn't want to lump my vote with them.@captain_voidwalker But who's to say it wasn't MY hot dog he stole from me and I'm just getting it back? What now?@vald9inches Lol, you really think you have a position of power? What do you think this is, the 1930s?
You're the one with the gun who wanted to shoot someone.
@Smoke-n-Growls wtf are you even smoking? 😂 What makes you think I personally have a position of power and for some reason wasting my time talking with you?
You need to reread what I said
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Benjamin Franklin said that hence the thumbnail for this question lol
He was a wise man
Indeed he was!
Lovely and well thought out answer! Bravo! I rarely see such deep and thoughtful reflection like this in a comment! ❤️❤️❤️
That would be freedom...
Why aren’t you in North Korea? You seem to think free countries are dangerous. Iran is dangerous. Go there trying walking around without a head covering in 60 degrees summer. I’m sure you’d enjoy that. people who think gov should all the rights for the safety soon see themselves in tyranny. Yaaah give all the tanks and guns to a small selective of people. Yaaah I’m sure they’d want the best for you. Because I don’t you’re so useful to them? Baaah! No one there why you’re fat. Waiting for the gov to take of your health too?
@m33lad you totally misunderstood my comment. Dangerous countries are not free. My point was safety does not always beget freedom, but generally freedom ensures safety. Of course the words safety and freedom can be viewed rather objectively. 😜
You nailed it, PikNik77.
The reason why is objective because those people who want safety don’t learn nothing from history. Those who give up freedom for safety don’t know where is going to lead. Look at Cuba and China and Iran and North Korea. There is your answer. I don’t even want police. Is not the job of gov to keep us safe. I live in South Asia. You almost never see police presents here. But is on of the safest places I’ve Been too. And no one calls the cops here for pity shit. Why is it so safe? Because of buddhist religion. We become and do what we believe in. That’s why criminals exists and no matter how many cops they hire. They don’t just disappear.
You'll just love what safety will have in store for you
I see the Nazi example was too much lol
You're not free if you're not safe ✌🏻
Tell that to a caged bird 😢
You're free if the people making you safe kill you. You're free from suffering ever again. I think you're actually right!
And what is it like to be without freedom?
I grew up with very strict parents and I still live with them. I’ve never been to a sleep over before, I’ve never been allowed to a party, I can’t sleep over my bf’s house, I can’t go on vacation with his family, I got into trouble for taking a few sips of beer at 19 and my mom almost beat me up, i feel trapped sometimes and I just wish that I could get started on my future I’m still in college now but I desperately want to finish
@pillingsadness go ahead and give an example of such a society? And if it did exist they missed the entire point of personal freedom and security of a country's BORDERS! Lmfao 😂
why did you go anon? You said Without national security there would not be freedom and history has shown this so give us an example! Lol
This was a good discussion then you went asinine on us…
Then you'll find to get nor deserve neither
I deserve all things that are good for me.
I have the perfect cage for you to feel protected! We call it a gas chamber! It's ok you can TRUST ME! It's for your own safety and everyone's safety!
A cage doesn't sound safe.
You want to be a brainwashed slave
It will be a cage with lots of pillows and body guards and lots of security cameras all to make sure you are safe and nobody can get to you!
... especially if CCP Biden is the one giving us our "safety"
Then it's not a free society is it now? Lmfao
@vald9inches so prisons should be emptied?
Of course they should be emptied what kind of dumb question is that? What civilized human being would force another human being to live in a cage like an animal?