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Why is it wrong to be proud to be white? (Page 2)
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The key word there is "proud," kiddo. No other group of people has stolen and cheated as much. There is little for you to really be "proud" of.
Kinda rich coming from an Islamic fundamentalist like you. The Arab slave trade was bigger than its Atlantic counterpart. Muslims conquered territories by the force of the sword, beheading millions, raping women and spreading backward values. Your countries were the last ones to abolish slavery and still to this day most of them have no laws to ban rape and pedophilia.
SHUT THE FUCK UP, PIG!
I'm proud to be human.
Pride is the new social faux pas.
Because tribalism is a fundamental flaw in humans.
Lol. You think human beings are a species that's separated from the Animal Kingdom and the Mother Nature's rules don't apply to us. Lol lol lol
Nature and morals don't go hand to hand. Therefore nature in us is flawed to us living as a society with morals.
If you want to live like an animal, were your just killing what you want when you want, breeding women by force, and other such nasty things. Then you will go to prison.
Humans are adapting away from nature cause we know it's not socially moral. Neither is tribalism but a lot of humans are to dumb to realise it's a flaw.
I didn't make the rules, I'm just telling you how it is. If you pored over philosophy and biology studies, you'd come to the same conclusion Aristotle did 2400 years ago: humans are social animals. But, of course, I know that you "libertarians/individualists" prefer to keep yourselves within the comfort zone of your ideological abstractionism than make an effort to think and understand the world around you. And this the fundamental flaw of your ideology: you deny that there's a world around you. Your understanding of everything human is supposed to end at the individual level and so, as a result, you're oblivious to human interrelations, especially at a societal level.
You can live your antinatural utopia as I'm sure you are a chronic mom's basememt dweller. Okay. But people should strive for a better understanding of ourselves while species and work for the improvement of our communities.
I don't think you understand that if humans acted on nature we would all be rapists, killers, etc. But clearly you must of never watched dogs in the wild because that would be us. Nature is not moral. If you don't understand that simple concept, then your logic is flawed not mine.
To strive for a moral world we must ignore nature that is not. You can disagree and say what you want, but it will never change the fact that nature is not moral which to me makes your disagreements invalid. And tribalism is a fundamental flaw from nature.
Your problem is that you're dogmatic, you fear the environment around you and deny all the evolutive features animal species, especially the human one, acquired through millions years of evolution supposedly in order to fix its flaws.
Tribalism is not an "aberration," but the very social mechanism that allows us to cooperate with other humans as the social animals we are, without that, we'd be like tigers, sharks, spiders, and human society would be an impossibility itself. Yet you think you're smarter than Mother Nature... Lol
Dogmatic implies my views don't come from facts but just a unquestionable certainty not based on a fact. My view exactly comes from a fact, Nature is not moral. And you think tigers don't have tribalism? what are you even on about lmao.
I'll give you a little hint many animals have tribalism, it is literally were it comes from. Not just some social construct on humans have that make us different from tigers or other animals lol.
Anyway i can see you don't a very simple concept that nature isn't moral so i will leave you to be one of those humans to dumb to realise tribalism is a flaw.
Tribalism is an evolutionary feature, not a flaw. But Mother Nature, wise as She is, knows better and will weed out individualists from the human gene pool. You might have not realized it, but individualists have a mortal flaw... Since you reject our tribal nature and see yourselves as an "island entire of itself," you lack the necessary skills for human cooperation, and so you tend to have weak bonds with other people, which makes you lonely and ultimately fail to reproduce.
In no more than two or three generations Mother Nature will have gotten rid of libertarians/individualists/incels. 😆
You can think what you want, which by the way is subjective to your thoughts and stereotypes. Since you literally don't have a clue who i am. For all you i could have a girlfriend, i could have great social life, but yet you jump to lines like incel which just shows you base stuff on whatever you think of a person. Not based on just the simple facts.
But that is your flaw, jumping to conclusions and making up an idea of me without knowing me. Humans all i have them even I, but my flaw is not the simple point of pointing out that nature is not moral.
ITS NOT!!!
Kind of is. And it’s stuoid to be proud of skin color.
@OddBeMe It's much more than skin color. It's about culture, identity, traditions and heritage.
Thank you
@OddBeMe I'm proud of you
You are judged by what people did 500 years ago.
Being white isn't an achievement but you do you. Enjoy your privilege I guess.
You're another dumb individualist, redundant since all individualists are dumb, who doesn't know the difference between To Be and To Have.
According to your stupid induvidualistic-consumerist mindset, To Be is To Buy.
It's amazing the way you analyzed my mindset from just a couple of sentences. But yes I'm an individualist so suck my dick.
Its not wrong. Just stupid. Proud of skin color... dumb
No, smartass. Proud of ethnicity, sense of belonging, heritage, traditions...
Ethnicity , sense of belonging, heritage and traditions.
Which one? You got slavic Celtic, Germanic ethinc groups. All of them have white skin but have very different cultures , belong to different tribes and have their own traditions.
My point stands
I mot proud its just i was born this way
A person should be proud of their accomplishments, what they've achieved, and not something they had absolutely no control over, like their place and time of birth. That was just down to luck.
Again I'll repeat, "In the woke consumerist America, you can either be proud of the things you buy or hate yourself and your heritage. People will tell us to pick one or the other and you're an example of that."
Why must it be one or this other? This is the false dichotomy fallacy, because there are always other options. I don't care about "consumerist America", I don't even live there!
"... one or THE other", I mean.
Why are you asking me? You have one of those sides. You're on the "consumerism" train. You're the rootless, atomized individual here, whose only concern in life is accumulating material things.
I'm not on any "train" you bloody fool! You know NOTHING about me, I'm a complete stranger to you, so why are you being so presumptuous? I choose neither "side"! Do you really believe that my only concern in life is to "accumulate material things"? I don't care about material possessions; why should I? They don't bring happiness or contentment, and that's something I've always known.
I think I have a good understanding about you. Since you're an individualist, I can safely say that you're not part of any community or culture, you have weak social bonds, you have weak interpersonal bonds and your life revolves around satisfying your most basic urges. That's why I know you're assimilated by our society's consumerist culture.
No, you can't "safely say" ANYTHING about me. Got it? Nothing.
Stop all that sjw and blm crap.
Why would you be?
Because it's my heritage, you ignorant.
Ah, name calling, a sure sign of the intellectually superior. I'll be stopping this conversation here.
white people bad, other people good
It isn't wrong.
Simply being proud to be white isn’t even a thing
According to your own definition, black boyz have no reason to be proud of being black either.
proud of being black has an entire different meaning than being proud to be white
"proud of being black has an entire different meaning"
That doesn't mean one is valid and the other isn't.
Yes it does, being proud of being black in America is being proud of a people that went through obstacle after obstacle to just live, being proud to be white is a phrase that really only white supremicists use
You're just a black boy who thinks your skin color gives you authority to act like a gatekeeper. White liberals are spoiling you too much, they treat you like their pets. 😆
Look, black boy, the history of this country is directly linked to class oppression, and, believe it or not, most white people have always been part of the less privileged classes.
And you are just a racist white boy that has nothing better to do for her to troll all day
Questioning a social taboo isn't acting like a troll, black boi.
So you are just a complete fucking dumbass got it
"Hurr durr, I'm a butthurt blaq boi 😭"
I summarized your words for you.
Replace “blaq” with white and you would describe yourself
I can't, I'm talking about you.
😂 you are a racist dumbass
Due to history of colonialism and slavery.
Non sequitur. But I doubt that you know what it means, the school system in this country is a rotten factory of ignorance that produces people like you.
These are facts.
Non sequitur facts. You're too unintelligent to figure it out by yourself.
Those are the things that actually happened. Stop being delusional.
That bears no correlation to European cultures and identities. Neither colonialism nor slavery are cultural traits or traditions, let alone something specific to all European people. Jesus Christ, you have a rock for brain, you hate white people so much that it makes you even dumber than you're.
By the way, if your leave another dumb reply that makes me think you're trolling, you'll get your opinion removed by me.
So should turkish people also not be proud of being turkish due to the ottoman empire and it's slave trading?
What about other nations with slaves such as the egypts?
Are all of those nations wrong to be proud of their heritage? Or is it just whites?
That’s not unique to white people.
Holding to ideas like that holds us all back.
It also pushes so much hate.