Thanks for MHO 🙌
"We're the most beautiful women in the world."Wrong. Asian girls are known for being the most attractive girls everywhere.
Funny because all the men I know including my husband all love blondes (natural of course) with blue eyes. All my blonde blue eyed white female friends always have men of all races listing after them. Men always tell me I'm the most beautiful girl they've ever seen and how much they love my beautiful superlong naturally very blonde hair and beautiful bright blue eyes.
False. I even doubt that you're a woman, you seem to be a perv Indian guy (and racist) trying to find a dirty penpal. Anyway, white women can't compete with Asian Goddesses. Asian girls are the most beautiful women in the world, their smell is addictive, they're close to perfection.
White girls look like pigs. 🐖
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"heritage like Irish, Italian, French"Those heritages have been erased from the Anerican society due to intercultural miscegenation, so it makes no sense for most Americans to claim belonging to one of them.
That’s an opinion because I know people who are Irish and Italian and they still celebrate their ancestors, culture, history, traditions and food here in America. I would drink with my Irish / Italian friends and enjoy their food with them as they tell rich stories about their country and ancestors.Yes america is very much a multicultural society / nation but we can also remember the cultures that we have a connection to as well without denouncing our American culture too
I've been to Italy before. I can safely tell you that the only thing common to Italian-Americans and actual Italians are maybe their surnames origins. Everything else is different, actual Italian food is significantly different from the Italian-American one, IAs generally don't speak Italian, they know little about Italy, etc. For the reason that Italian Americans (and all other European Americans with few exceptions) lost touch with their own traditions as they lived the American experience.
I’ve heard that before so I’m not dismissing it and I’ve seen it, so i understand to a degree on the food, certain cultural perspectives, etc. Some things do evolve in a different direction with time while others may stay the same, that depends on the person and their family. That happens with different cultures within a multicultural society sometimes because they may or may not incorporate new perspectives.The main point I’m trying to suggest it’s okay to be proud of your heritage but you have to explain why. Saying I’m proud to be white is synonymous with nazis and kkk members.
You're proud of being a cultureless boor, who's not part of any culture or community, an atomized "individual," with weak social/interpersonal bonds. Gotcha.
Well you're not even close but it was a good try
Prove me wrong then. I'll wait.
It's all good bro I do what I do because I can and I want to and I want to be a part of the solution not a part of the problem and each and every day that I do something I do it to make the world a better place not to prove anything to you that is the last thing I would be doing in my life is trying to prove something to you and even then I wouldn't do it
"Because it’s one step away from sounding like a fascist neo nazi."You need a psychiatrist. Urgently."You can be proud of your ethnicity but being proud of your race"I'm referring to ethnicity, you assumed the opposite because you're a troublemaker.
If you were referring to ethnicity you would be asking a different question
There's no other way I could refer to ethnicity. When it comes to culture, there's no distinct ethnicity in America these days.
Yeah because America’s filled with a mix of a bunch of ethnicities
And of course there is, you could say your proud to be Italian or something
No, it's because they lost touch with their traditions and heritage. European-Americans because they were assimilated into a consumerist society, African-Americans because they were enslaved. Americans regardless of skin color should have a critical view about our society and culture as part of the American experience.
I don’t know what you’re talking about at this point
Race and ethnicity are the same exact thing. the two words are synonyms, like gender and sex.
@ TheSpaceGnome This is the problem with American English language. Just because YOU use the two words as synonyms doesn't mean the rest of the world does. I'm Caucasian. That's my "race", but ethnicity goes beyond that. I'm English and my ethnic background is vastly different to a Caucasian from Scandinavia or the Mediterranean. I live in South Africa. There are 11 official languages spoken here. 9 of them are African languages and the cultures they represent are ethnically diverse, yet most people would just say "black".So I'm proud of my ethnic background - English, not necessarily my "race", Caucasian. European Caucasian's descendants have fucked up North America and Australia and New Zealand for the indigenous peoples by displacing them. They fucked the continent of Africa by dividing it up into European-type nations but ignoring traditional tribal boundaries, resulting in a continent at war for over a century as tribal boundaries are displaced by the invasive style. The Hutu and Tutsi genocide in the 90s was the result.I'm English, not European. Not British.My culture and ethnicity are different from the Welsh, Gaelic and Scottish people.
@TheSpaceGnome race and ethnicity aren’t the same thing, sex and gender are also not the same thing? You should really do your research on something before talking
@DJB72 thank you for explaining
Yes they are the same things, people who think otherwise are incorrect. I'm well aware that the politically correct internet linking people think otherwise, but PC people are wrong about most things. I'll stick to 90s terminology from science books and dictionarys thanks.
@TheSpaceGnome this has nothing to do with being politically correct.If you think race and ethnicity is the same thing I’m sorry but that’s retarded.A dna test isn’t able to quantify your race, because race is scientifically inept. It’s societally constructed, there have already been countless scientific studies done on this topic.Sex and gender aren’t the same thing, because much like race and ethnicity. Sex is biological and gender is socially constructed.They aren’t synonymous. Saying so is just punching science in the face and making your own shit up.
Nope, you are incorrect on all accounts, and thinking otherwise is retarded.Race is not a social construct, it is shorthand for "racial ethnicity", it is citing your dna and your genetic relation to other people, and nothing else. No actual studies state otherwise, and this is how its been referred to since before you were even born. Race does not have cultural or sociological implications, as people are individuals, and culture is region and law based, not ethnicity based.Gender is not a mentality, thinking like a male or thinking like a female is a "woke sjw" fabrication with zero scientific backing. There is no actual difference between how men and women think by default, and any common difference between them is the result of cultural influence overriding individual preferences (ie being a follower), real world experience has proven this, and anyone who believes an internet claimed study to the contrary, has zero concept of sound methodology when running a study, and is blind to whats in front of them.Gender symbols are used in animal encyclopedias, medical books, books on paleontology, biology books, etc to note an organism's biological sex, not their mentality or behavior (which varies greatly by both individual, and species), and stereotyping genders into ways of thinking needs to stop, because again, people are individuals, and countless studies about every other biological topic have indirectly have proven this, as does just interacting with people or other animals.
"Gen-der n., Gram. Any of two or more categories, as feminine, masculine, or neuter, into which words are devided and which determine agreement with or selection of modifiers or grammatical forms; the quality of being of the male or female sex."Source: A physical copy of Webster's Dictionary - circa 1997 - Landoll, Inc.Gender symbols used in a book to denote exclusively biological sex: source example issuu.com/.../spiders_and_their_kin_-_a_golden_gu
It should be noted that the mentioned dictionary was made when most words only had one definition (as it should be), because most people who had a say in what went in, were literate, and not arbitrarily offended by everything.
From the same dictionary, the only definitions for "race" reads only this (gender only has one definition in that book by the way)1. Race: n. The zoological division of the human population having common origin and other physical traits, such as hair form and pigmentation; a group of people having such common characteristics or appearances; people united by a common nationality.2. Race: n. A contest which is judged by speed; any contest, such as a race for an elective office, raced, racer n.
Again, from the same book:Eth-nic adj. Relating to or of national, cultural, or racial group, ethnicity n.
Conclusion: 1. gender = biological sex2. race = ethnicity = sub-species, but also ethnicity can refer to culture or origin as well in anthropology, so for the only duel definitions, you had it backwards, but both are still synonyms.
"There is one race and it started in Africa"Citations needed."Your ancestors were slaves"I don't have recent African ancestors."your ancestors were colonist who lacked morality."Nah, little being, my ancestors weren't Zionist Jews nor settlers in this country."Your ancestors were the beaten in America and they were the beater in America"You know soooooooo little about my ancestors. Your nonsense is pitiful.
@RainbowUnicorn123 Since you're trolling, your reply will be deleted.
This is by far the most retarded thing someone said in this thread. Belonging to a culture and a community isn't an "accident," you just don't know its importance because you're a lonely person with no prospects in life besides buying things. Individualism, nihilism and consumerism hinder human progress and create cultureless boors like you.
You are retarded. Being born into a culture IS an accident of birth.
Your opinions are pure autism. Sorry, but I don't think you autists should have a place in society... You're dysgenic.
"Belonging to a culture and a community isn't an "accident," you just don't know its importance because you're a lonely person with ***no prospects in life besides buying things.***"
You are such a coward. The fact that you’re posting anonymously shows that. Don’t pm me you waste of space. Miserabpe cunt with nothing better to do.
Listen you racist scumbag. I’ll be proud of my culture and I’ll shout it off the rooftops but for a scumbag pig like you who is a thief and doesn’t even have a culture worthy of being proud there is nothing for you to be proud of. Lol what is your culture even? There is no richness to it. Look at the Eastern world. They have culture to be proud of. You have nothing. Bland food, bland clothes, plain face. You’re just bland in everyway.
"scumbag pig like you"I'm not your father. 🐖
You sound like a butthurt black boy.
Other people have destroyed too, not just white people.. lol
@shadowarrior99 yes you're right, but he was asking about white people so I answered him in what he asked.
Black power is not the same as saying whites power… just Saying lol
Well said, I appreciate your opinion.
"You should feel proud of yourself, for your accomplishments and you as a person."Whatever great one's accomplishments are, the individual is never as great as a healthy community and a vibrant culture. White people are in a downward spiral of decadence for forgetting it.
You do you, I guess?
@Archerer "So you are proud of being in a downward spiral and in a culture that is forgetful and self destructive"Of course not, dumbo. That's why I think every white person should reject individualism, the consumerist mindset, nihilism and everything associated to liberal capitalism, which is what put white people in such situation. The first step is to recreate our identity and rebuild our communities.
@Archerer Since you're trolling, I'm going to remove your stupid opinions.
Typical white man can’t face the reality, y’all are Hicks
Nothing to be proud of, and you contributed nothing to any European culture or heritage
@Archerer As if I cared about what a stupid blackboi like you thinks... Go eat a banana.
I’m European, actually European, like born there so you wish you could suck my balls!
"you can be proud of where you came from, your heritage, your culture"It's not the case for Americans, since they don't know exactly their roots and lost touch with their heritage and traditions. An American can either be proud of being white or European-American.
I guess my question would be why would someone feel the need to be proud of less pigmentation in their skin? Honestly it's nothing to be proud of, more skin damage, higher risk of skin cancer, faster aging, etc. If you want to be proud of something, be proud of your accomplishments, be proud of what you do, your traditions, your culture and how you treat people, not the lack of melanin in your skin...
"proud of less pigmentation in their skin?"Smartass, it's obviously that I'm referring to whites as an ethnicity, which includes culture, heritage and traditions, it's just that European heritage has been erased from the American society due to consumerism and liquid modernity, so it's hard to specify what kind of European heritage we have since most Americans lost touch with their family heritage. I think a Euro-American identity should be created and is necessary to provide meaning and sense of belonging to us, something that neither liquid modernity nor consumerism can do."Honestly it's nothing to be proud of, more skin damage, higher risk of skin cancer, faster aging"That's not the point here, but since you claimed something so dumb about the white skin color, I tell you that having a white skin is an EVOLUTIONARY trait. White people are adapted to live in colder environments, especially at high latitude climates. You shouldn't talk like a complete ignorant about how Mother Nature created us. Be grateful to Her.
Yeah but being white isn't an ethnicity... it's obvious that you have a chip on your shoulder so I'm not gonna get into it, but the more you talk the more it's starting to sound like white power...oh and a side note, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them and idiot. If you can't deal with opposing opinions, the internet might not be the best place for you.
Stop complaining, you said something extremely stupid and all called it out. Although I agree that we shouldn't be proud of our skin color by itself, evolution didn't give us a white skin to make us more prone to skin damage, skin cancer and the effects of aging, but to adapt us to a certain kind of environment. And you said that because this topic evidently makes you uncomfortable. You knew that I'm arguing against a social taboo right from the beginning. And this is why you think I'm a "White Power" type: you can't understand why I don't make the same choice as yours, i. e., to concede to the comforting lies of our society and avoid heated discussions, to be proud of being a cultureless, atomized "individual.""obvious that you have a chip on your shoulder"It's hard not to resent the culture we live in these days. Liquid modernity is toxic, consumerism is toxic, individualism is toxic. This culture is a bizarre moment of human history. I'm trying to change it, while people like you would rather choose conformity.
Yes people with lighter skin tones do better in colder climates but it is true that they are more prone to sun damage. Are you telling me that is wrong?
"but it is true that they are more prone to sun damage"In low latitudes only, where we aren't fully adapted to the environment. Notice how Southern Europeans have a darker skin tone than their Northern counterparts.
If it wasn't for our heritage, we wouldn't be here.
Infact every single living thing all started from a single cell... That is the furthest back ancestor of everything alive
I'm referring to whites as a collective group with a shared experience, which includes culture, heritage and traditions. Not to race specifically.
yeah I as an Italian don't have much in common with a Southern American boy tbh. Your upbringing is going to affect you a lot more. You go from the USA to like Belarus for example things are gonna be WAY different between us. A black man in America is naturally going to have more in common with his white American counterparts then black men in the Congo.
Being proud of your ethnicity and cultural background is not necessarily bad. It's what prevents people from becoming like Americans, I mean, cultureless boors.
In the woke consumerist America, you can either be proud of the things you buy or hate yourself and your heritage. People will tell us to pick one or the other and you're an example of that.
I don't hate myself, I don't know my ancestors more than 2 gens back, and I usually complain about product quality being shit in just about everything these days. So no, I'm not either of those things. but passing the buck on blame or credit is retarded.People should focus on their own acomplishments and failures and stop pretending they aren't individuals.
" I don't know my ancestors more than 2 gens back"That's because you're fully assimilated into an anti-human, antinatural, consumerist society where To Be is To Buy, and you don't even realize it. Your whole identity relies on your material achievements, which is something characteristic of a consumerist culture since it denies the difference between To Be and To Have. It might hurt your feelings to hear this, but individualism failed our society.
No, it's because I don't care.If I were born 10,000 years ago I still wouldn't care.I'd be making stone tablet paintings and cave paintings instead of drawing on paper and computer tablets.I'd be playing with my pet saber cats and hunting instead of playing video games with prehistoric creatures in them.I'd be picking up bugs and painting everything I see Instead of taking macro photos or watching videos.I'd still be an artist, I'd still be a person who loves playing, and researching, and science, and archiving, and excitement.I'd just be using whatever that era has to allow for that. And in this era, I use computers made by consumerists, like the ones people buy to sequence genes to find out their ancestors, or like the ones people buy to complain about them on gag, you fucking hypocrite.Human geneology is boring, and not useful outside customized medical care that no one does well enough to care about yet. You might not want to hear this because it might hurt your feelings, but I'm not brainwashed by people who make products.I make products. Why? because I enjoy them, which is also why I buy products too by the way.Also individualism is the only society worth bothering with, herd mentality and its brainwashing bs can go fuck itself.And literally none of that, has anything whatsoever to do with the fact that it's stupid to blame or credit person A for oerson B's actions, you blithering idiot.
"No, it's because I don't care"Of course you don't care. Individualists are generally nihilists, you care about nothing that's relevant to society's development, only about your most basic urges."Also individualism is the only society worth bothering with, herd mentality and its brainwashing bs can go fuck itself"Lol. Mother Nature will get rid of individualists as She always did. Who represents individualists better than an incel? Maybe an extreme hedonist, I'd say. But they're both "condemned" not to reproduce, thus their genes will disappear and so will their ideology. Enjoy your future, individualist. In a generation or two your mindset will be a thing of the past, until it reappears some hundred years later just to be wiped out by Mother Nature one more time.You have no power against nature.
Nature actually favors individualism, its how evolution happens. Variety is why life continues to persist in spite of change, whereas homogenization (herd mentality) causes species to go extinct during drastic changes. Humans typically survive habitat change without even having to adapt either way though, because we can alter environments and reverse changes to suit our needs, so your point is bs twice over.Nihilism is the idea that life is better without purpose, that purpose is a delusional trap that locks you in, preventing you from changing your mind about what you want to do, and that the true meaning to life is subjective hedonism, which is also good, and is favored by nature as well, as those who do what feels good and avoid what doesn't, usually tend to live longer and breed more. (not that I even want kids, I don't.)You really do have no clue what your talking about lol, I won't be dead within 2 generations even if I don't surpass the record for human lifespan this far. I'm only 35 lol. And passing on my genes is not important to me, nor will not doing so result in no more people like me, because thats not how genetics works.As for what happens if and when I do die, there will always be individualists, there always has been since complex life started (Not that I will be alive enough to care).You act as if there is some kind of negative consequence for me to do self preservation or self gratification. What a load of horse shit that is lol.
You can get a genius from 2 idiots, and an idiot from 2 geniuses. Like it or not, films like idiocracy, which assume that humans can pass on intelligence and personality traits directly to offspring, as of they were clones of the parents, are scientifically speaking, bullshit. Thats not how it works, you are mixing genes, not cloning parents, so even if every artist on earth today, got surgically steralized before breeding you will still have just as many artists born per non artists ratio wise in the next generation, because even people who suck at something, carry the genes to be good at it.Life is a crapshoot.
Lastly, now that your "facts" are called out as bullshit, I don't care what nature, humans, or anything else "favors", I do what i want ^-^
"Nature actually favors individualism, its how evolution happens"Only some species are favored by individualism, notoriously the ones that reproduce by parthenogenesis. That's not the case for humans as we as species evolved by cooperation with other human beings plus adaptation to the environment around us. Your factual basis to claim that "nature favors individualism, so it's how evolution happens" is non-existent since we're notoriously a gregarious species. #Fail"whereas homogenization (herd mentality) causes species to go extinct during drastic changes"False. It's evident that you know nothing about what are the realities that cause extinction crisis in nature. It's linked to maladaptation for starters..."Humans typically survive habitat change without even having to adapt either way though, because we can alter environments and reverse changes"Nature needs just a few climate changes to destroy all life in this planet. Our potential to alter our planet is very limited because we can't really control it and we can get extinct in the process. " I won't be dead within 2 generations even if I don't surpass the record for human lifespan this far. I'm only 35"In the period of two generations you would be 85 to 109. Safe to assume you'll be dead.
You are Incorrect on all accounts, you repeatedly spew falsehoods and claim them as facts like some bible thumping retard. literally nothing you have said this entire conversation has had any validity to it whatsoever.
I've muted your question, I won't get notifications for it anymore.
Kinda rich coming from an Islamic fundamentalist like you. The Arab slave trade was bigger than its Atlantic counterpart. Muslims conquered territories by the force of the sword, beheading millions, raping women and spreading backward values. Your countries were the last ones to abolish slavery and still to this day most of them have no laws to ban rape and pedophilia. SHUT THE FUCK UP, PIG!
There's no other name for Americans of European descent. They lost touch with their heritage and traditions as part of the European-American experience.
Americans don't know the philosophical difference between To Be and To Have. Kinda expected from a nation of cultureless boors, who're only united by a piece of paper and the homogenizing power of liquid modernity.
Ain't a FUCKING THING I CAN DO about any shit my anestors might've done!! That's ancient hisory!!
Sense of belonging, culture, traditions, identity and heritage are evidently more important than one's accomplishments.
I view those as parts of ones' "accomplishments" - they belong if they choose to, they can accept prior traditions, etc.
The individual doesn't produce culture. That's a collective effort, but since Americans reject anything collective that doesn't involve creating wars abroad or enforcing woke stuff, our communities are dying in front of us.
You're another dumb individualist, redundant since all individualists are dumb, who doesn't know the difference between To Be and To Have. According to your stupid induvidualistic-consumerist mindset, To Be is To Buy.
It's amazing the way you analyzed my mindset from just a couple of sentences. But yes I'm an individualist so suck my dick.
No, smartass. Proud of ethnicity, sense of belonging, heritage, traditions...
Ethnicity , sense of belonging, heritage and traditions.Which one? You got slavic Celtic, Germanic ethinc groups. All of them have white skin but have very different cultures , belong to different tribes and have their own traditions. My point stands
Again, individualists don't know the difference between To Be and To Have. According to you, To Be is To Buy, and individual needs are more important than community, culture and social bonds.
I think you think that you said something deep but it’s just vague and doesn’t actually mean anything. Are you “proud” to have brown eyes too?
No, but I should be proud of being European-American and I do efforts to bring positive things to my community, and this is something I want to see other people do as well. Unfortunately, they don't do it because they have an individualistic mindset. White people see their neighbors sink in drugs and alcohol, commit suicide, get impoverished, but do nothing to solve it. The reason is that they lack a collective identity.
That is retarded.
Your mother is retarded. That pathetic bitch should have aborted a little shit like you.
Go troll someone else, you leftover if an abortion.
Again I'll repeat, "In the woke consumerist America, you can either be proud of the things you buy or hate yourself and your heritage. People will tell us to pick one or the other and you're an example of that."
Why must it be one or this other? This is the false dichotomy fallacy, because there are always other options. I don't care about "consumerist America", I don't even live there!
"... one or THE other", I mean.
Why are you asking me? You have one of those sides. You're on the "consumerism" train. You're the rootless, atomized individual here, whose only concern in life is accumulating material things.
I'm not on any "train" you bloody fool! You know NOTHING about me, I'm a complete stranger to you, so why are you being so presumptuous? I choose neither "side"! Do you really believe that my only concern in life is to "accumulate material things"? I don't care about material possessions; why should I? They don't bring happiness or contentment, and that's something I've always known.
I think I have a good understanding about you. Since you're an individualist, I can safely say that you're not part of any community or culture, you have weak social bonds, you have weak interpersonal bonds and your life revolves around satisfying your most basic urges. That's why I know you're assimilated by our society's consumerist culture.
No, you can't "safely say" ANYTHING about me. Got it? Nothing.
"But it’s just historically wrong. Because slavery."Non sequitur.
Not really. It’s like Germans telling Jews they have pride.
Pride is something forbidden for every people then since they all committed crimes and atrocities. Yes, that includes Jews and blacks. Jews for example turned the 2/3 of Palestinian population into refugees by means of ethnic cleansing. Why are you silent about that?
Well…yeah. In a perfect world we can say shit without people placing baggage on it. But Israel does have an ethno nationalist problem, like Americans did back in the day.
So, according to your own logic, Jews have no reason to feel prpud of themselves. Be consistent with your values and tell them that.
Just for being Jewish? No.