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It’s not wrong to be proud of being “white”
It’s just being “white” means something different in regards to heritage.
Most people are proud of their country or town or culture. People usually aren’t proud of their race or skin color. Black Americans and other descendants of slaves all over the world have a common history in their families being subjugated under white supremacy, a social and political tool used by European colonizers to consolidate power while expanding their empires.
Because of this history, people aren’t celebrating the color of their skin, but rather the struggle people had to overcome because someone else has a problem with their skin color and they are just being proud despite that.
White supremacy has been a big issue in the United States since the birth of the nation. White folks were angry when black people had success and killed them. Lynchings and murders were common in the south. The k k k was made up of civilian and police. Eugenics and other means of justifying treating white and black people differnetly go back to the confederacy and states trying to keep slavery legal. Rich people needed to turn the public for slavery. Most southerners were poor whites BUT the wealthy plantation owners tricked them into dyin for their war by making it about “culture” so usually when people say “white power” they are referring to a white Nationalist or supremacists ideology.
You can be proud of your families heritage and accomplishments. You can be proud of the collective strife you and your community and similar ones have gone through. But nobody is just proud of being their race for no reason. They are excercising pride because they had their rights taken away. And unfortunate it was by white people for a lot of cultures. British army colonized most of the world overall. Spain and France too. Belgium some.
History is complicated and we can move forward. The only problem is if white pride is looking back, then that’s wrong. Harvesting prosperity by stealing it from others isn’t rights. That’s nothing to be proud of. But the ability to come together and move forward is something to be proud of.
I notice of Facebook and Fox News like TC and SH that they say weird stuff. Like brown and black people want to” take over “ or replace white people or treat them like they were treated. That’s all some white supremcisits scare tactics. Unfortunate we are so divided people believe it if they have no other connection to people different from them. That’s the downside of being surrounded by one idea or thinking or culture, you don’t know what other people are actually like or what’s being exaggerated or lies about on tv.
These are good conversations to have. We see “left” vs “right” but that’s just a disctraction. It’s naive to believe one side is right and one is wrong. One can’t be good and one evil. That’s too simple.
I wouldn't say it's wrong. I just don't know anyone who genuinely does outside of those who are say from Nordic cultures and trace back what their people did. Or some other non American white culture.
When it's not that the only people who say that are doing it to poke fun at or spite people of other races who talk about personal pride. If someone says Mexican Pride. Totally get it. Cuban Pride. Totally get it. Black Pride Totally get it.
When someone says White Pride tho it brings up images of Hitlerian Great White Race type people. Hitler the Nazis, The Aryan Brotherhood kinda ruined that for all of you. Because they took it on first and put it in the dirt.
While yes you can do it. I'm just saying that's the image you guys gotta break through and having guys that do it doing it solely in spite of other races repping pride doesn't help the image.
It's marketing really. Take back the image and make it something good. Because realistically the only people talking about White Pride are white nationalists that are straight up white supremacist racists. If you can't understand that it's not anyone else's problem. That's just what it is.
I personally think that this post won't make anyone think about the ancestry of an individual. More that this post could if taken seriously upset or invoke feelings of anger.
As a person of colour I don't feel hate. I like to think of life with an optimistic outlook. People say we are the masters of our own lives. And we make a choice everyday to be good or bad.
We also live in a modern civilisation where we are better educated, better equipped and better able to make decisions that hopefully won't have such detrimental effects on the generations after us. And if we are aware of them we have the power to change that.
Their story and the pain is the past, their lives, their sacrifice for my freedom does not go without great and deep appreciation. But I would not be the person I am today without that history, and nor would you.
Maybe I'm foolish. But I cannot punish a neighbour for a crime committed years ago that they didn't have their hands in. If they are open and willing, living along side me is a sign that I and they are equals. That we can coincide without needing to oppress or harrass one another.
If more people took this approach and minded their own business, or made use of the air time people give them productively maybe they could influence for positivity.
I made a post and again so many people focused on the negative.
there's more to life than just pain.
There's nothing at all wrong about being proud of being white
I'm a very white white girl with extremely long extremely light blonde almost white hair longer than I am tall and very bright blue eyes and I'm very proud of being blonde hair blue eyed and white.
Why shouldn't I be. We're the most beautiful women in the world. Men love us and women envy us and want to look like us. We're also the most intelligent. No blonde especially black women are sooo jealous of us. I most certainly wouldn't want to be a black woman. Black women are so ugly dumb and smell bad and look like monkeys and smell like shit and have such bad ugly hair.
I am most certainly not racist. I'm happily married to and have kids with a very dark black man and I wouldn't be married to and have kids with a black man if I was racist.
Being proud of being white doesn't make one racist just like being married to and having kids with a black man doesn't mean a white girl is ashamed of being white. I'm a blonde hair blue eyed white girl married to a black man and most certainly not racist and am very proud of being blonde hair blue eyed and white. Blacks especially black women tend to be the most racist people of all. Black women hate white women especially blonde hair blue eyed white girls and always get so jealous and hateful when they see me with my black husband and black kids.
"We're the most beautiful women in the world."
Wrong. Asian girls are known for being the most attractive girls everywhere.
Funny because all the men I know including my husband all love blondes (natural of course) with blue eyes. All my blonde blue eyed white female friends always have men of all races listing after them. Men always tell me I'm the most beautiful girl they've ever seen and how much they love my beautiful superlong naturally very blonde hair and beautiful bright blue eyes.
False. I even doubt that you're a woman, you seem to be a perv Indian guy (and racist) trying to find a dirty penpal. Anyway, white women can't compete with Asian Goddesses.
Asian girls are the most beautiful women in the world, their smell is addictive, they're close to perfection.
White girls look like pigs. 🐖
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It’s one thing proud of your family heritage like Irish, Italian, French or even American. Positive things that have history such as accomplishments, food, music , etc. saying I’m proud to be American is absolutely safe. Examples for the good things such as remembering our veterans for WW2 , our space race to the moon, our music , our technological accomplishments, etc.
Saying being proud to be white is a bit like what do you mean by that? People who usually say that are usually white nationalists or KKK members.
"heritage like Irish, Italian, French"
Those heritages have been erased from the Anerican society due to intercultural miscegenation, so it makes no sense for most Americans to claim belonging to one of them.
That’s an opinion because I know people who are Irish and Italian and they still celebrate their ancestors, culture, history, traditions and food here in America. I would drink with my Irish / Italian friends and enjoy their food with them as they tell rich stories about their country and ancestors.
Yes america is very much a multicultural society / nation but we can also remember the cultures that we have a connection to as well without denouncing our American culture too
I've been to Italy before. I can safely tell you that the only thing common to Italian-Americans and actual Italians are maybe their surnames origins. Everything else is different, actual Italian food is significantly different from the Italian-American one, IAs generally don't speak Italian, they know little about Italy, etc. For the reason that Italian Americans (and all other European Americans with few exceptions) lost touch with their own traditions as they lived the American experience.
I’ve heard that before so I’m not dismissing it and I’ve seen it, so i understand to a degree on the food, certain cultural perspectives, etc.
Some things do evolve in a different direction with time while others may stay the same, that depends on the person and their family. That happens with different cultures within a multicultural society sometimes because they may or may not incorporate new perspectives.
The main point I’m trying to suggest it’s okay to be proud of your heritage but you have to explain why. Saying I’m proud to be white is synonymous with nazis and kkk members.
It’s not wrong, it only becomes wrong when the colour becomes the critical thing.
it’s about being proud of who you are as a person, proud of you family, your region, your culture and your country.
none of the above matter in regards to skin colour, everyone can be proud of their region irrespective of ethnic background.
i regularly chat to Vietnamese, Arab, Persian, Kenyan Geordies who was very proud to come from the North East, to speak proper and to be a Geordie.
for the states I guess the same is true for say a New Yorker, I’ve never heard anyone say ‘I’m proud to be a white New Yorker, or A Black New Yorker’
I happen to be white, but I am proud to be a Geordie.
I don't think it is wrong to be proud to be white. it is a good thing to be happy with yourself somehow. however keep it discrete, so that you may not come off as racist to others, because reality is, that all through history white people have become great in this world through slavery and destruction of nations. not every one is racist or capable to do the things many white people did and still do remain in power. I think you should be happy with yourself but also be careful with how you portray yourself in your society, and try to understand how others feel. focus on the good aspects of being white, like your culture, music, art, movies, food, and others. try to be kind to people and understanding. the best way to be likable when you're white, is to show others that even though you did not experience their life sufferings , you still comprehend their struggles and be courteous and accepting always in regards to skin color.
Other people have destroyed too, not just white people.. lol
@shadowarrior99 yes you're right, but he was asking about white people so I answered him in what he asked.
Still some people has an accept what Martin Luther King Jr did between whites and blacks coming together and loving each other they prefer to date people within their race. It seems certain people such as parents would be against their child or sibling to be dating someone outside of their race. Which is really retarded since interracial couples are extremely popular in movies and then in television shows and we're ever in real life so it's kind of pointless what type of white woman she is because in the end she still hurt and nobody can see each other color or her racing.
Simply put our society has changed the notion that being proud of the fact that you're white is wrong. This unfortunately stems from the oppressive nature of our ancestors, and is really more of a black versus white issue. While we all have different aspects to our ancestry, we still get hung up on our skin tone. Most white Americans are mutts, a combination of different aspects of History. So we can't necessarily pigeonhole ourselves into saying oh I'm Italian-American or I'm irish-american when we may also have German French etc etc. So while it would be easy to say that I'm proud to be American, because of our hangup on skin tone, if you say you're proud to be a white American you're going to be demonized for it. It's easier to simply say that your Southern, you're a New Yorker, a redneck or a hillbilly. It's simply less taboo that way.
Who said it is wrong to be proud to be white? I have never heard that before. I think it is not wrong!! But why are you asking just about white people. All races have people that are proud of their race. There is an old saying from the70's that black people used to say all the time while giving the power sign "I'm black and I'm proud. I think it was even a song back then. So there ya go!
Black power is not the same as saying whites power… just Saying lol
I don’t think being white is something to be ashamed of for sure but being proud of something that wasn’t earned is kinda lame I can be proud of some of the accomplishments of my ancestors but that’s still only kinda something to be proud of because it’s not my accomplishments the same as the things I’m ashamed of my ancestors for doing are my doings so I’m ashamed for them. Anyways I’m proud I raised 4 daughters I’m proud of work that I’ve done but being proud of something I had nothing to do with is kinda lame I don’t care if I’m white brown black yellow or green it’s basically a roll of the dice not much to be proud of and definitely nothing to be ashamed of
Because being proud of inherent characteristics is kind of a silly thing to do, you should be proud of things that you personally have achieved and accomplished.
Now, if you're asking why race Marxists get pissed off at white people having racial consciousness while obviously being in favor of every other racial group having racial consciousness, well, they're race Marxists, they've defined white people as the oppressor class, and therefore any injustice you do to them is in fact justified, and no, they don't think they're hypocrites, thank you very much..
Its not wrong, but I don't get why you should feel "proud" of being a particular ethnicity. You should feel proud of yourself, for your accomplishments and you as a person.
"You should feel proud of yourself, for your accomplishments and you as a person."
Whatever great one's accomplishments are, the individual is never as great as a healthy community and a vibrant culture. White people are in a downward spiral of decadence for forgetting it.
You do you, I guess?
@Archerer "So you are proud of being in a downward spiral and in a culture that is forgetful and self destructive"
Of course not, dumbo. That's why I think every white person should reject individualism, the consumerist mindset, nihilism and everything associated to liberal capitalism, which is what put white people in such situation. The first step is to recreate our identity and rebuild our communities.
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@Archerer Since you're trolling, I'm going to remove your stupid opinions.
@Archerer As if I cared about what a stupid blackboi like you thinks... Go eat a banana.
It's not, it's not wrong to be proud to be who toy are, people are proud Asian people are proud African and that's absolutely OK
It's only when that pride Is forced upon others then it's a problem or you play victim in a situation when you are not then it's a problem
You should not be, that is the kind of thought put out by the 'White Saviours' in academia under the label of 'White Fragility'.
‘White Fragility Theory’ is a bullying rhetorical tactic put forward by ‘white saviours’ like Robin DiAngelo and others in The Intersectional/Identitarian Mob, as such, it can easily allow for racism against white people while at the same time denying that white people can be a subject to racism.
Be proud of who you are and where you and your family are from.
It is not wrong. You should be proud of YOURSELF, whatever your colour is.
I am a genealogist, too, so I am proud of what my ancestors achieved for the family and for others.
Well said, I appreciate your opinion.
Just be proud to be alive. Stop paying so much attention to race
It's nothing to be proud of. You either were born as it or not, there is no accomplishment. Neither should you be ashamed of it since it's beyond your control. Your skin color only effects some minor biological things, don't let it define you or others.
You shouldn't feel either, you aren't your ancestors.
I really don't understand this bullshit of why people try passing the actions of the dead onto the living, it's fucking dumb.
It would be like your brother winning the nobel prize and you trying to take credit, or your other brother commiting murder and then you get sentenced for it.
In the woke consumerist America, you can either be proud of the things you buy or hate yourself and your heritage. People will tell us to pick one or the other and you're an example of that.
I don't hate myself, I don't know my ancestors more than 2 gens back, and I usually complain about product quality being shit in just about everything these days. So no, I'm not either of those things. but passing the buck on blame or credit is retarded.
People should focus on their own acomplishments and failures and stop pretending they aren't individuals.
" I don't know my ancestors more than 2 gens back"
That's because you're fully assimilated into an anti-human, antinatural, consumerist society where To Be is To Buy, and you don't even realize it. Your whole identity relies on your material achievements, which is something characteristic of a consumerist culture since it denies the difference between To Be and To Have.
It might hurt your feelings to hear this, but individualism failed our society.
No, it's because I don't care.
If I were born 10,000 years ago I still wouldn't care.
I'd be making stone tablet paintings and cave paintings instead of drawing on paper and computer tablets.
I'd be playing with my pet saber cats and hunting instead of playing video games with prehistoric creatures in them.
I'd be picking up bugs and painting everything I see Instead of taking macro photos or watching videos.
I'd still be an artist, I'd still be a person who loves playing, and researching, and science, and archiving, and excitement.
I'd just be using whatever that era has to allow for that. And in this era, I use computers made by consumerists, like the ones people buy to sequence genes to find out their ancestors, or like the ones people buy to complain about them on gag, you fucking hypocrite.
Human geneology is boring, and not useful outside customized medical care that no one does well enough to care about yet.
You might not want to hear this because it might hurt your feelings, but I'm not brainwashed by people who make products.
I make products.
Why? because I enjoy them, which is also why I buy products too by the way.
Also individualism is the only society worth bothering with, herd mentality and its brainwashing bs can go fuck itself.
And literally none of that, has anything whatsoever to do with the fact that it's stupid to blame or credit person A for oerson B's actions, you blithering idiot.
"No, it's because I don't care"
Of course you don't care. Individualists are generally nihilists, you care about nothing that's relevant to society's development, only about your most basic urges.
"Also individualism is the only society worth bothering with, herd mentality and its brainwashing bs can go fuck itself"
Lol. Mother Nature will get rid of individualists as She always did. Who represents individualists better than an incel? Maybe an extreme hedonist, I'd say. But they're both "condemned" not to reproduce, thus their genes will disappear and so will their ideology.
Enjoy your future, individualist. In a generation or two your mindset will be a thing of the past, until it reappears some hundred years later just to be wiped out by Mother Nature one more time.
You have no power against nature.
Nature actually favors individualism, its how evolution happens. Variety is why life continues to persist in spite of change, whereas homogenization (herd mentality) causes species to go extinct during drastic changes.
Humans typically survive habitat change without even having to adapt either way though, because we can alter environments and reverse changes to suit our needs, so your point is bs twice over.
Nihilism is the idea that life is better without purpose, that purpose is a delusional trap that locks you in, preventing you from changing your mind about what you want to do, and that the true meaning to life is subjective hedonism, which is also good, and is favored by nature as well, as those who do what feels good and avoid what doesn't, usually tend to live longer and breed more. (not that I even want kids, I don't.)
You really do have no clue what your talking about lol, I won't be dead within 2 generations even if I don't surpass the record for human lifespan this far. I'm only 35 lol. And passing on my genes is not important to me, nor will not doing so result in no more people like me, because thats not how genetics works.
As for what happens if and when I do die, there will always be individualists, there always has been since complex life started (Not that I will be alive enough to care).
You act as if there is some kind of negative consequence for me to do self preservation or self gratification. What a load of horse shit that is lol.
You can get a genius from 2 idiots, and an idiot from 2 geniuses.
Like it or not, films like idiocracy, which assume that humans can pass on intelligence and personality traits directly to offspring, as of they were clones of the parents, are scientifically speaking, bullshit.
Thats not how it works, you are mixing genes, not cloning parents, so even if every artist on earth today, got surgically steralized before breeding you will still have just as many artists born per non artists ratio wise in the next generation, because even people who suck at something, carry the genes to be good at it.
Life is a crapshoot.
Lastly, now that your "facts" are called out as bullshit, I don't care what nature, humans, or anything else "favors", I do what i want ^-^
"Nature actually favors individualism, its how evolution happens"
Only some species are favored by individualism, notoriously the ones that reproduce by parthenogenesis.
That's not the case for humans as we as species evolved by cooperation with other human beings plus adaptation to the environment around us.
Your factual basis to claim that "nature favors individualism, so it's how evolution happens" is non-existent since we're notoriously a gregarious species. #Fail
"whereas homogenization (herd mentality) causes species to go extinct during drastic changes"
False. It's evident that you know nothing about what are the realities that cause extinction crisis in nature. It's linked to maladaptation for starters...
"Humans typically survive habitat change without even having to adapt either way though, because we can alter environments and reverse changes"
Nature needs just a few climate changes to destroy all life in this planet. Our potential to alter our planet is very limited because we can't really control it and we can get extinct in the process.
" I won't be dead within 2 generations even if I don't surpass the record for human lifespan this far. I'm only 35"
In the period of two generations you would be 85 to 109. Safe to assume you'll be dead.
You are Incorrect on all accounts, you repeatedly spew falsehoods and claim them as facts like some bible thumping retard. literally nothing you have said this entire conversation has had any validity to it whatsoever.
I've muted your question, I won't get notifications for it anymore.
Messed up attitude of villainizing as usual. probably because of threatening competition to not get something.
Suppressing of a group istead of growing up.
There are many messed up reasons why some behaves like some shithead. the entertainment exuses of doing it unusually shows personality disorder behavior.
It isn't. It just doesn't make any sense to be as it's neither an accomplishment nor is it treated as a carrying an implicit handicap you have to prove you've overcome before people will let you have access to money. And so to be proud of being white despite that just makes it look like you have nothing else to be proud of.
It's not wrong to be proud of your (positive) heritage. The problem with white pride, nowadays is that it's usually capitalized.
White Pride is not the same thing as Black Pride, for example. One is a well established hate group, and the other is trying to lift the morale of a subjugated group.
As long as you don't confuse WP with wp, you're good.
Wow sounds like you had a boring life I'm proud be a father I'm proud to be who I am I'm proud then I got this opportunity to be a part of the human race to learn to grow to become I'm proud to have accomplished all the things that I have and I'm proud that I don't have to pick a color to be proud of because at any given day of the year I can be any color and I usually am I'm proud it my life hasn't been as boring as yours and that's the only thing I'm proud of the color I am one day that's pretty sad I mean don't get me wrong I'm happy for you I'm happy that you're happy the dude hold your arms out as wide as you can that's how big the world is I'll make the okay sign with your fingers that's the little world you live in expand my friend
You're proud of being a cultureless boor, who's not part of any culture or community, an atomized "individual," with weak social/interpersonal bonds. Gotcha.
Prove me wrong then. I'll wait.
It's all good bro I do what I do because I can and I want to and I want to be a part of the solution not a part of the problem and each and every day that I do something I do it to make the world a better place not to prove anything to you that is the last thing I would be doing in my life is trying to prove something to you and even then I wouldn't do it
You should be proud of who and what you are. Always. There will always be people trying to put you down. Various reasons - it really doesn't matter what. They'll claim it's for the right reasons and that they're in the right. We must learn to ignore them and listen to our own internal values.
It shouldn't be, we all should be proud of ourselves and where we came from. We must always remember though that we equal and the only true race is the human race
Absolutely!
How can anyone be proud of something they did nothing to achieve? Be proud of a nice sun tan but don't proud of being born with a certain skin tone.
Likewise, never be ashamed of how God made you. In doing that you're insulting Him.
Americans don't know the philosophical difference between To Be and To Have. Kinda expected from a nation of cultureless boors, who're only united by a piece of paper and the homogenizing power of liquid modernity.
Talk about 'missing the point' -- just stop already. No, there's nothing 'wrong' with being proud -- but that's quite an over-simplification if there ever was one. I can't believe you even "asked" this silly question.
Because it’s one step away from sounding like a fascist neo nazi.
If you’re ok saying your proud to be white, the question is what’s separating you from saying white pride worldwide?
You see the problem, there’s a clear connotation. You can be proud of your ethnicity but being proud of your race is idiotic since race is a made up human construct and ethnicity has more influence on a person than race.
"Because it’s one step away from sounding like a fascist neo nazi."
You need a psychiatrist. Urgently.
"You can be proud of your ethnicity but being proud of your race"
I'm referring to ethnicity, you assumed the opposite because you're a troublemaker.
There's no other way I could refer to ethnicity. When it comes to culture, there's no distinct ethnicity in America these days.
No, it's because they lost touch with their traditions and heritage. European-Americans because they were assimilated into a consumerist society, African-Americans because they were enslaved. Americans regardless of skin color should have a critical view about our society and culture as part of the American experience.
Race and ethnicity are the same exact thing. the two words are synonyms, like gender and sex.
@ TheSpaceGnome This is the problem with American English language. Just because YOU use the two words as synonyms doesn't mean the rest of the world does.
I'm Caucasian. That's my "race", but ethnicity goes beyond that. I'm English and my ethnic background is vastly different to a Caucasian from Scandinavia or the Mediterranean.
I live in South Africa. There are 11 official languages spoken here. 9 of them are African languages and the cultures they represent are ethnically diverse, yet most people would just say "black".
So I'm proud of my ethnic background - English, not necessarily my "race", Caucasian. European Caucasian's descendants have fucked up North America and Australia and New Zealand for the indigenous peoples by displacing them. They fucked the continent of Africa by dividing it up into European-type nations but ignoring traditional tribal boundaries, resulting in a continent at war for over a century as tribal boundaries are displaced by the invasive style. The Hutu and Tutsi genocide in the 90s was the result.
I'm English, not European. Not British.
My culture and ethnicity are different from the Welsh, Gaelic and Scottish people.
@TheSpaceGnome race and ethnicity aren’t the same thing, sex and gender are also not the same thing? You should really do your research on something before talking
Yes they are the same things, people who think otherwise are incorrect.
I'm well aware that the politically correct internet linking people think otherwise, but PC people are wrong about most things. I'll stick to 90s terminology from science books and dictionarys thanks.
@TheSpaceGnome this has nothing to do with being politically correct.
If you think race and ethnicity is the same thing I’m sorry but that’s retarded.
A dna test isn’t able to quantify your race, because race is scientifically inept.
It’s societally constructed, there have already been countless scientific studies done on this topic.
Sex and gender aren’t the same thing, because much like race and ethnicity. Sex is biological and gender is socially constructed.
They aren’t synonymous. Saying so is just punching science in the face and making your own shit up.
Nope, you are incorrect on all accounts, and thinking otherwise is retarded.
Race is not a social construct, it is shorthand for "racial ethnicity", it is citing your dna and your genetic relation to other people, and nothing else. No actual studies state otherwise, and this is how its been referred to since before you were even born. Race does not have cultural or sociological implications, as people are individuals, and culture is region and law based, not ethnicity based.
Gender is not a mentality, thinking like a male or thinking like a female is a "woke sjw" fabrication with zero scientific backing. There is no actual difference between how men and women think by default, and any common difference between them is the result of cultural influence overriding individual preferences (ie being a follower), real world experience has proven this, and anyone who believes an internet claimed study to the contrary, has zero concept of sound methodology when running a study, and is blind to whats in front of them.
Gender symbols are used in animal encyclopedias, medical books, books on paleontology, biology books, etc to note an organism's biological sex, not their mentality or behavior (which varies greatly by both individual, and species), and stereotyping genders into ways of thinking needs to stop, because again, people are individuals, and countless studies about every other biological topic have indirectly have proven this, as does just interacting with people or other animals.
"Gen-der n., Gram. Any of two or more categories, as feminine, masculine, or neuter, into which words are devided and which determine agreement with or selection of modifiers or grammatical forms; the quality of being of the male or female sex."
Source: A physical copy of Webster's Dictionary - circa 1997 - Landoll, Inc.
Gender symbols used in a book to denote exclusively biological sex: source example
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It should be noted that the mentioned dictionary was made when most words only had one definition (as it should be), because most people who had a say in what went in, were literate, and not arbitrarily offended by everything.
From the same dictionary, the only definitions for "race" reads only this (gender only has one definition in that book by the way)
1. Race: n. The zoological division of the human population having common origin and other physical traits, such as hair form and pigmentation; a group of people having such common characteristics or appearances; people united by a common nationality.
2. Race: n. A contest which is judged by speed; any contest, such as a race for an elective office, raced, racer n.
Again, from the same book:
Eth-nic adj. Relating to or of national, cultural, or racial group, ethnicity n.
Conclusion:
1. gender = biological sex
2. race = ethnicity = sub-species, but also ethnicity can refer to culture or origin as well in anthropology, so for the only duel definitions, you had it backwards, but both are still synonyms.
Not a clue! It's perfectly fine to be proud to be brown, black, yellow, red or any other shade of pink, why shouldn't it be okay to be proud to be white, too?
Ain't a FUCKING THING I CAN DO about any shit my anestors might've done!! That's ancient hisory!!
Lmao this is ridiculous. there's nothing wrong. Its probably their personal problem if they shame all white people. Thats hilariously ignorant
I don't think it is, in the past people have used the same terms to undermine others, that's why it's frowned upon. As long as you treat others well, you can be proud of anything.
That said, I can't relate. Being proud just because someone else is also white? I don't see how that relates to me at all. Might as well be proud of someone because we all have eyes.
It’s pathetic to be proud to be anything that was literally an accident of birth. Usually people who have nothing going for them are stuck on something as irrelevant and pathetic as race. Using race and colour as identifiers in the third decade of the 21st century is pathetic. Racism is pathetic. We should just see people as people and that’s it.
This is by far the most retarded thing someone said in this thread.
Belonging to a culture and a community isn't an "accident," you just don't know its importance because you're a lonely person with no prospects in life besides buying things. Individualism, nihilism and consumerism hinder human progress and create cultureless boors like you.
Your opinions are pure autism. Sorry, but I don't think you autists should have a place in society... You're dysgenic.
"Belonging to a culture and a community isn't an "accident," you just don't know its importance because you're a lonely person with ***no prospects in life besides buying things.***"
***autistic screeching***
Listen you racist scumbag. I’ll be proud of my culture and I’ll shout it off the rooftops but for a scumbag pig like you who is a thief and doesn’t even have a culture worthy of being proud there is nothing for you to be proud of. Lol what is your culture even? There is no richness to it. Look at the Eastern world. They have culture to be proud of. You have nothing. Bland food, bland clothes, plain face. You’re just bland in everyway.
"scumbag pig like you"
I'm not your father. 🐖
Everybody has the same ancestors. I don't know why we all act like humanity started in Europe or something. There is one race and it started in Africa. Your ancestors were slaves and your ancestors were colonist who lacked morality. Your ancestors were the beaten in America and they were the beater in America. The quicker we all accept these truths, the quicker we can all move on.
"There is one race and it started in Africa"
Citations needed.
"Your ancestors were slaves"
I don't have recent African ancestors.
"your ancestors were colonist who lacked morality."
Nah, little being, my ancestors weren't Zionist Jews nor settlers in this country.
"Your ancestors were the beaten in America and they were the beater in America"
You know soooooooo little about my ancestors. Your nonsense is pitiful.
@RainbowUnicorn123 Since you're trolling, your reply will be deleted.
It's not wrong.
Some political people think it's not relevant to the legacy of slavery which hangs over Africans in America.
It's all about context.
What my ancestors done is nothing to do with me so why should I be ashamed for shit I didn't do?
If you go back in ancestors enough.. keep going in time and eventually we all came from the same ancestors anyway... Oh yeah... The first humans was black Africans... We white people evolved from the Africans.. oh yeah... We all have a black ancestor somewhere back on the timescale.. we all have some. black in us
Why would you. You didn’t accomplish anything special by being white. You just are. White, brown, black. Etc. Who cares we are all humans all people with the same insides. What makes one color so special from another. I will tell you. Absolutely nothing. The only people that see a color as an advantage are racists.
What does it mean to be “proud of being white”? Being “white” is a weird Anglosphere concept of throwing together loosely connected ethnicities in Europe that share little ancestry, history, cultural traits and constantly fought with each other.
There's no other name for Americans of European descent. They lost touch with their heritage and traditions as part of the European-American experience.
Is not wrong! The evil people on control that want us dead know that white people are the woke ones. That will fight back.
To slow this down is to make them seem as racist as possible.
I am proud, very proud and when I compare their success to that of other races I feel even prouder. I will raise my daughter to hate those who try to shame her for her race. Should we shame blacks for their extreme history or violence and rapes? Why hold one group accountable for things that they didn't do and excuse another groups for things that they still do?
I'm proud of being superior to others by outperforming people often.
I would say being proud of your ethnic background is okay
I would not say it is horrible to be proud in the sense that you have pride in what you ancestors accomplished, but it is wrong to be proud in a way that makes you think of people who are not white as lesser than you, because that it not true.
Overall, I think one should be proud of their own accomplishments rather than their ancestors', but I would not say that it is horrible or extremely defaming to be proud of others' accomplishments.
It’s not wrong it’s just pathetic ridiculous and annoying. Pasty face unmelanated people run the damn planet. And now on top of that you want more special snowflake privileges. GTFO. Get your crap together. Nobody has any sympathy for your babified BS out here
You sound like a butthurt black boy.
It isn't. If you're proud of who you are, good for you, keep that up.
Do not let anyone make you feel ashamed of who you are and who your ancestors were.
It is NOT wrong to be proud of being white. Be proud of what you are despite what this cancel culture wants you to belive.
No because it's stupid and racist to scapegoat an entire race of people for the suffering of another.
It's not wrong to be thankful and satisfied with your own accomplishments, regardless of pigmentation.
Sense of belonging, culture, traditions, identity and heritage are evidently more important than one's accomplishments.
I view those as parts of ones' "accomplishments" - they belong if they choose to, they can accept prior traditions, etc.
The individual doesn't produce culture. That's a collective effort, but since Americans reject anything collective that doesn't involve creating wars abroad or enforcing woke stuff, our communities are dying in front of us.
I'm proud of a lot of shit. However I'm only white because im not black.
It isn't. You should never feel ashamed of what you are.
If you don't think other races are worse, than yours, then it's nothing bad.
No it's not wrong to feel good about the race you were born as cause God created you in his image not others.
I cannot comprehend why you would be proud to be white. Nor can I comprehend why anything other than your own moral compass would be involved.
Because those worthless snowflakes and SJW's want you to feel that way.
Why are you "proud" or "not proud" to be a color, or race, that you had nothing to do with being born into?
I guess it’s weird to be proud of anything that you had no part in contributing to.
Again, individualists don't know the difference between To Be and To Have. According to you, To Be is To Buy, and individual needs are more important than community, culture and social bonds.
No, but I should be proud of being European-American and I do efforts to bring positive things to my community, and this is something I want to see other people do as well. Unfortunately, they don't do it because they have an individualistic mindset. White people see their neighbors sink in drugs and alcohol, commit suicide, get impoverished, but do nothing to solve it. The reason is that they lack a collective identity.
Your mother is retarded. That pathetic bitch should have aborted a little shit like you.
Go troll someone else, you leftover if an abortion.
Technically not. But it’s just historically wrong. Because slavery.
"But it’s just historically wrong. Because slavery."
Non sequitur.
Pride is something forbidden for every people then since they all committed crimes and atrocities. Yes, that includes Jews and blacks. Jews for example turned the 2/3 of Palestinian population into refugees by means of ethnic cleansing. Why are you silent about that?
So, according to your own logic, Jews have no reason to feel prpud of themselves. Be consistent with your values and tell them that.
No is wrong to be proud, but withim the limits of common sense.
Because it's idiotic. It's fine to be proud of your culture. The whole concept of race is idiotic. 2 world wars weren't enough to get through your skill skin tones don't define or unite people?
I'm referring to whites as a collective group with a shared experience, which includes culture, heritage and traditions. Not to race specifically.
yeah I as an Italian don't have much in common with a Southern American boy tbh. Your upbringing is going to affect you a lot more. You go from the USA to like Belarus for example things are gonna be WAY different between us. A black man in America is naturally going to have more in common with his white American counterparts then black men in the Congo.
Because there is no reason to be proud of being white, you can be proud of where you came from, your heritage, your culture, but being proud of "being white" seems pretty shallow, that's like being proud you have blonde hair and blue eyes.
"you can be proud of where you came from, your heritage, your culture"
It's not the case for Americans, since they don't know exactly their roots and lost touch with their heritage and traditions. An American can either be proud of being white or European-American.
I guess my question would be why would someone feel the need to be proud of less pigmentation in their skin? Honestly it's nothing to be proud of, more skin damage, higher risk of skin cancer, faster aging, etc. If you want to be proud of something, be proud of your accomplishments, be proud of what you do, your traditions, your culture and how you treat people, not the lack of melanin in your skin...
"proud of less pigmentation in their skin?"
Smartass, it's obviously that I'm referring to whites as an ethnicity, which includes culture, heritage and traditions, it's just that European heritage has been erased from the American society due to consumerism and liquid modernity, so it's hard to specify what kind of European heritage we have since most Americans lost touch with their family heritage.
I think a Euro-American identity should be created and is necessary to provide meaning and sense of belonging to us, something that neither liquid modernity nor consumerism can do.
"Honestly it's nothing to be proud of, more skin damage, higher risk of skin cancer, faster aging"
That's not the point here, but since you claimed something so dumb about the white skin color, I tell you that having a white skin is an EVOLUTIONARY trait.
White people are adapted to live in colder environments, especially at high latitude climates.
You shouldn't talk like a complete ignorant about how Mother Nature created us. Be grateful to Her.
Yeah but being white isn't an ethnicity... it's obvious that you have a chip on your shoulder so I'm not gonna get into it, but the more you talk the more it's starting to sound like white power...
oh and a side note, just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make them and idiot. If you can't deal with opposing opinions, the internet might not be the best place for you.
Stop complaining, you said something extremely stupid and all called it out. Although I agree that we shouldn't be proud of our skin color by itself, evolution didn't give us a white skin to make us more prone to skin damage, skin cancer and the effects of aging, but to adapt us to a certain kind of environment.
And you said that because this topic evidently makes you uncomfortable. You knew that I'm arguing against a social taboo right from the beginning. And this is why you think I'm a "White Power" type: you can't understand why I don't make the same choice as yours, i. e., to concede to the comforting lies of our society and avoid heated discussions, to be proud of being a cultureless, atomized "individual."
"obvious that you have a chip on your shoulder"
It's hard not to resent the culture we live in these days. Liquid modernity is toxic, consumerism is toxic, individualism is toxic. This culture is a bizarre moment of human history. I'm trying to change it, while people like you would rather choose conformity.
Yes people with lighter skin tones do better in colder climates but it is true that they are more prone to sun damage. Are you telling me that is wrong?
"but it is true that they are more prone to sun damage"
In low latitudes only, where we aren't fully adapted to the environment. Notice how Southern Europeans have a darker skin tone than their Northern counterparts.
Why is it wrong to be proud to be black?
It's not wrong.
That’s my answer
I'm proud to be white and also thankful to God for making me white.
You should Be grateful to what you are.
Both being proud or ashamed of your skin color is idiotic. It's not like you had anything to do with it.
Being proud of your ethnicity and cultural background is not necessarily bad. It's what prevents people from becoming like Americans, I mean, cultureless boors.
There's Nothing wrong in it...