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What i dont get is this, every race, Asian, mexican, black, you name it are allowed to be proud except whites. Black women walk in a room sayin, im a strong black woman/queen an proud, imagine me walking in saying, im a strong white woman/queen an proud, id be called racist. even an Asian an mexican woman could walk in an say it, an all would be fine. Also there are black college funds, black tv networks, black churches, can i start a white church? a white college fund? a white tv network an not be called racist? we know the answer. When you honestly consider all i said, how isn't whites are the racist ones, when every race but us can be... proud, and have funds and tv networks an more only for their race.
Nah, that's not the problem. The problem is racists want everyone go be proud of how much "White' people have accomplished.
You know nothing about the history of non-"White" Americans, so why pretend that you do?
Meanwhile, we know all about. . . George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Roosevelt, Thomas Edison, Amelia Earhart, Charles Lindbergh, etc., etc.
@RolandCuthbert no, im exactly right, and u know it, and how would u know what history i know, read all i said, then tell me who looks racist against who.
@BokieLoc maybe yeah its something
So you are going to type a bold face lie about what history you know or had to learn?
I don't get it.
I didn't learn about Chief Plenty Coups until I got off my lazy ass and studied the history of American Indians.
That didn't come from school. I learned a fraction of African-American history and truckloads about "White" folks.
Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. It don't matter if your a guy or a girl, young or old, black owhite or brown, you should ALWAYS be proud of who you are, no matter what the rest of the world says.
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Anyone who is so weak-willed that they let others tell them if they can feel proud. . . doesn't deserve to feel proud.
Albert Einstein was Jewish. Isaac Newton and Stephen Hawking were British.
You are talking about the nonsensical weirdness of "race".
"White" Americans have "White" Americans to be proud of, right? I am "Black". And in my "neutral" school, I was given heroes like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Roosevelt, Thomas Edison, Amelia Earhart, Charles Lindbergh, etc., etc.
How is it that I went to a school with a bunch of other "Black" students and we learned about all these "White" folks and you didn't?
It wasn't like we learned much about African-Americans, Asian-Americans, American Indians, or Latino-Americans. etc. Though I am still uncertain as to what the difference between Latinos and "White" people is.
But anyway, you can't pretend you know much about the history and culture of other folks who are not "White" American or European. So why did you create this thread?
I’ve heard you are a white person pretending to be black. Jewish. British they are all white.
Why the fuck would I care about what racist trolls think?
And the statement doesn't change the fact that everyone learns "White" American history, because we are all forced to.
Go to any history class this semester and watch the students sleep 😴 nobody pays attention so does it really matter
So you are just another disingenuous troll.
There’s also no “white” history. There’s only American history and it just so happens to be that most of our presidents are white due to the majority of the country being white.
So what you are saying is that "White" history is American history.
Dude, get a history book. Every single President was "White" and male except one. Other nations have passed us by decades and racists in America are still mad as hell.
I mean, you guys are steaming maddog angry, that only 99% of all Presidents were "White". That is some amazing shit right there.
I’m saying there’s no such thing as “white” history. It just is what it is. If you go to Korea, you will learn Korean history and it won’t be called “Asian” history.
You can make that claim but when you open an American history book and you see nothing but "White" males, that is "White" history. Just because you change the name does not mean the males in the book changed their culture or their skin color.
You don't know anything about American Indian History because there is no requirement to know about American Indian history. And you bitch and moan because an American Indian would have the nerve to dig up and find out about the history of his/her own people.
That's nonsense.
Non-"Whites" cannot be proud of your love of Thomas Jefferson.
What percentage of American history do you want to be white and what percent should be black?
50/50?
I don't give a crap about universal standards. It is important for African-American kids to know something about African-Americans who lived and died for their rights. It is important for Asian-Americans to understand the same thing about Asian-American History. Similarly, American Indians and so on.
But yes, when we sent the kids of my community to school, they were taught mostly "White" American History, with a lot about African-Americans and non-"White" groups.
Some "White" people might want the same. Others may not. It is their privilege. Because there isn't a requirement to know or understand the history of any non-"White" group.
I’m asking what “something” is to you percentage wise? Are you for segregation? Meaning schools will segregate students based on race where they can learn mostly their history?
What the fuck?
Dude, I am not a racist. If you want to separate own that and stop whining.
I am not here trying to tell you how much non-"White" history you need to know. The point is you don't know it. Because you do not want to know it and moreover, you do not have to. But you are whining over what the people you claim are "not like you" are learning.
I don't hang around folks who think "White" American history is the only history that is valid. The "White" people I know can study the life of Chief Plenty Coups and understand that is American history. If you can't, why project that silliness onto me? Why is this so hard for you? Why does it piss you off that other folks might want to study the history of non-"White" leaders as part of American history? And if you are that messed up, how in the world can you survive in this country?
I’m not mad so just answer my question. What percentage wise of black males should be in American history books? What percentage of white males? Since you say it’s all white then make a suggestion on where you want to be.
So that question makes nonsense. There is no such thing as a percentage. When my nieces and nephews went to school. They needed to know about the Founding Fathers, "White" American inventors, etc. But they also needed to know about the famous debates between Booker T. Washington and W. E. B. Dubios. They need to know who the first "Black" senators were, Hiriam Revels and Blanche Bruce.
You don't want to know that. That's cool. You can get away with being ignorant.
I mean, you can learn 50% "White" and 50% "Black", but if you don't learn what is important, it is all garbage.
That's why percentages make nonsense.
I mean, be proud of your heritage, sure. Skin colour is a poor indicagor of heritage, though. I've met white passing or Vietnamese passing full-blooded Filipinos, and 6th generation Canadians who look Greek (and used to have Greek heritage generations back, but are fully "Westernized" now). Also, people whose families are of a particular ethnicity, but who have also lived in Canada for multiple generations - meaning the last two haven't ever been to their "homeland" because Canada IS homeland.
So being proud of your family's history or heritage (provided it is indeed something worthy of pride), is fine.
But when people usually say "White Pride" - especially in North America - they generally do not mean "I'm proud of my Ukranian-French-Canadian heritage". They usually mean they support White Supremacy, which is different from having a healthy respect and appreciation for Nana's recipes and the hardships her generation went through when they arrived in Canada.
White Supremacy is a problem, is racist, is false, and should die out.
Being proud of who you are, regardless of your skin tone, is okay.
This is the game that is being played… People that want power are provoking minority populations to antagonize White people via communism. Minorities are the sacrificial cannon fodder. The people in power know that the minorities will lose that battle. That is the plan. What they really want is to mobilize white people for war and for White people to have a strong central identity. Think how Germany was mobilized with the Aryan master race at the center of it. The same people are behind this push... If you piss off White people enough they will lose their humanity and go to work to dominate and subjugate the world… Minorities that play along and do the devils bidding are dumb as shit. If they succeed at their task they lose everything. The main concern for White people is to maintain liberty. America was set up on an upside down pyramid. The masses are at the top with individual liberty and those in government are civil “servants”. The civil servants want to flip the pyramid and have a dictator at the top with the masses at the bottom as a slave class. The fact that Blacks are using their energy to push a political movement that would make them slaves again is amusing, but I’d prefer to preserve liberty for all.
People identify as various things for a number of reasons, mostly to do with wanting to belong to a certain group that they have access to. So in that sense saying you’re white means you want to identify with white people and be considered one of that group. If you happen to mention this while someone was discussing racial oppression they’re likely to not be too thrilled about it.
If you identify as “white” then you’re technically reinforcing the false narrative that there are 5 distinct races with clear lines between them. While ethnicities obviously exist, they’re really just collections of genes being more common in a given population than another and no one can draw a clear line between say “yellow” and “brown” people because people come in all shades in between.
That said, this argument also applies to identifying as being black. Given most African Americans are mixed race the distinction between the two is entirely based on cultural norms/stereotypes which associate dark skin with animalistic and sub human characteristics. With being white being identified with being civilized and rational and darker skinned people being considered exotic, less sexually inhibited and generally less capable and in need of rescue by white people.
No one’s telling white people that they shouldn’t be ashamed of their race.
What other races are doing is manifesting their ability to be proud of their own race because they’re the ones that have been oppressed in the past, mostly in America and Europe. You also wouldn’t believe it, but there’s still a considerable amount of racism around the world, and the US is not an exception. Black people and latinos have been marginalized financially, culturally and even educationally. This is why “black schools” exist—they don’t exist to benefit black people; they exist to benefit white people; it’s to divide both of them.
It’s okay to be proud to be white. But it’s not okay when you start thinking that being white makes you better in any way, because it doesn’t. I myself am half white, but I know that “white pride” is just totally a bad taste. Respect minorities and let their voice be heard. They are the minorities for a reason; because for the first time in history they finally have a space for people to actually listen.
That’s why it looks bad when people say “I’m proud to be white.”
Oops sorry I meant “No one’s telling white people that they should be ashamed of their race” **
Being oppressed historically isn't something to be proud of though. It means you have a history of losing life's competition LMAO.
I didn’t say you should be proud of your oppression. I said be proud of existing and having a voice for the first time in a long time
Why is it all white people? My family is white and in Eastern Europe were peasant slaves at that point in history in the Russian Empire. Very few white countries actually participated in the Transatlantic Slave Trade, the entirety of Eastern Europe did not participate in this institution, they had their own systems of feudal slavery and were victims of slavery themselves from tyrannical Empires such as the Ottomans in the Balkans. African countries also willingly as part of trade sold their own kind into slavery for profit, Nigeria in particular made a fortune doing so. More importantly, only 1% could afford slavery on mass, the other wealthier 5% of these Transatlantic slave-based countries wealthier crusts such as the upper-middle to lower upper class just had on average 1-9 slaves working as fed, clothed, and decent household servants. While the majority of the population (working or desolate class) were dying in slums and worked in slavery-like conditions at the ages of 30-40. So why are we blaming the whole of white society for something only the 1% made and profited from 100 years ago? Makes no sense to me
I find it quite idiotic to want to render all the events of history on a racial basis or rather on dermal phenotypes since races do not exist.
For the rest I quote Schopenhauer:
“The cheapest sort of pride is national pride; for if a man is proud of his own nation, it argues that he has no qualities of his own of which he can be proud; otherwise he would not have recourse to those which he shares with so many millions of his fellowmen. The man who is endowed with important personal qualities will be only too ready to see clearly in what respects his own nation falls short, since their failings by him will be constantly before his eyes by him. But every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud adopts, as a last resource, pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and glad to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority di lui. "
One level below national pride is race pride or race shame which are one and the same.
This has got to be one of the most retarded questions i have ever read in my entire fucking life. how can you be proud of something you were born into and had no control over? being proud of being a genetic "lottery winner" if you can even call it that which i sure as hell don't (like a genetic lottery winner for being born into a rich family with rich parents or having good looks). it's as fucking retarded as the blm movement and the feminazi's and the psychotic liberal nutjobs who deem being white as bad and evil. those type of people are more racist than the conservatives they fight against. they praise everyone except for their own kind when most who own a mirror in their homes don't even bother to look at it otherwise they would know they themselves are white. and those who do own a mirror go around crying and yelling white guilt and try shoving that bullshit down other people's throats. how can you feel guilty about a skin color and race and ethnicity you were born into much like how can you be proud of a skin color race and ethnicity you were born into. one extremist retard against another extremist retard. great question here NOT!!! hence the major sarcasm in that last sentence. I swear the fucking retards that are coming on this site get dumber and dumber by the fucking damn minute
Would you like a taste of reality?
It's criminals, hard done by achieve nothings, etc. who go on with "white privilege". Who blame whites for the fact they get nowhere in life. The tramps of society. They expect life to be easy and when it turns out to be hard blame everyone else for their failures. The people in the BLM riots earlier who were burning down their own properties or properties of their business-owning peers.
Just them.
Nobody else. Why? Because there's plenty of black, Asian, etc. or "non-white" people who made something of themselves. Thousands of them. Millions of them. They don't care about "white privilege" because they proved they could get somewhere. They're proud and they have every right to be. Just as any white person has to be. These minorities didn't sit with a thumb up their asses & a hand out like beggars like their lazy-arsed good for nothing peers who bitch about whites.
White guilt is a manufactured scam designed to create divisiveness. It's racist.
History teaches us that not only white people are, or have been, racist. Slavery wasn't exclusive to white people. For example, the first Europeans (Portuguese) who brought back slaves as cargo bought them from African slave traders.
Even today, is it only "white" people who engage in human trafficking (slavery)?
What the fuck is "white", anyway? Does that include everyone from Persians, Hispanics, Mediterranean people like North Africans and Italians, to blond-haired, blue-eyed northern Europeans?
History is complicated. Instead of judging and stereotyping people based on historical events, how 'bout if we assess people on an individual basis? How 'bout condemning all forms of bigotry that are alive today and now?
Everyone of every race and ethnicity should be proud of their heritage.
No one should be ashamed of their race. You should only be ashamed of yourself as an individual if that is warranted.
Incidentally, from the 16th to the 19th centuries, a large number of Europeans where captured as slaves and taken to North Africa. Arab slave traders were also active in Africa at this time. So let's not pretend that's just something whites did. And they didn't have immunity to African tropical diseases, so they weren't the ones capturing slaves in Africa and selling them- that was done by Arabs or other Sub-Saharan Africans.
What is skin color anyway. Race is a made up thing by humans back in the day to specity certain people of different skincolor. In reality we are all the same except we all look a little different because of the climate and environment we live in. Dark skin = for hot environments and light skin = for cold no sunshine environments. History has nothing to do with today. Why would you be ashamed at all for something you didn't do. People of all skin colors have their bad and good people and if Asians or Africans were able to conquer the world back in the day they would have done exactly the same. Back in the day were the days of greedy kings that wanted more more and more no exceptions.
The reason people oppose white pride in Europe and North America is that it’s viewed as the default condition that refutes other scripted or additive cultural conditions, so it seems to them white pride is a celebration of their non minority status and not a celebration of their intrinsic social or cultural properties in its stand alone dorm, especially since the particular brand of white culture is not specified as it relates to language or nationality or creed and is not specified to any personhood or cultural specific ethos.
I can't believe my questions will get removed, when asking legitimate questions about boys and girls, and then this guys comes in here to stir up racist right-wingers, that's cool.
You sound exactly like Tucker Carlson, he is obviously where you probably get your talking points from.
Guess what? Just because your white doesn't make you anything even close to;
"Albert Einstein, James Clark Maxwell, Isaac Newton, Stephen Hawking" don't take credit for what they have accomplished.
Stop this "white oppression" bullshit. I'm white. Take the heat that is given to you. Rather than posting this right-winger, dog-whistling fascist bullshit RACE-BAITING loaded questions.
So wait, you get to be proud of being white because some great things in the past was done by white people, but you don't want to be shamed for some of the bad things white people did?
You can't just pick the positive and leave the negative. If you wanna team up, identify and take partial responsibility of the people with the same color as you, you have to take the good and the bad obviously. Because being proud or ashamed of someone else's actions implies responsibility, they are just the opposite feelings depending on the outcome of those actions.
Ok well I don't think white people should be held accountable for what they didn't do or what their ancestors did. It's what they continue to do today. The systemic racisim, the discrimination the lack of inclusion and so on... like I'm not saying anything bad that happens is a white persons fault I'm just saying that like... what your ancestors did is giving people shit to this day and that deserves to be aknwoledged (not that you are to blame but just... don't act like it didn't happen either I guess... it's a part of history afterall), racist white people also exist to this day... you know what I mean? But anyway you should for sure be proud of your skin, where you come from, culture and such I think that's ok. I don't think the problem is with you but with other white people. Do you see where I'm coming from?
Personally I don't think anyone should be proud of their "race" to be fairly honest. It's such a weird thing to be proud of. Human races are not monolith hive minds. You can feel pride in feeling accomplished that you are successful in life despite the possible hurdles that the society that you live in might have set in your way because of your race but overall I don't understand why people care so much about race. Feeling proud of the community that you're a part of makes more sense for example because it concerns the people within it who worked together to achieve success. But a race is a very broad category. Different ethnic groups within a race are different between eachother already.
One of the most reasonable answers.
But of course, knowing how people in G@G think—they’ll downvote you to no end.
You're talking about two different things here. White guilt and white pride are two very different things. I can passively not be proud of being white without feeling white guilt... and I'd say that's probably the most healthy outlook one can have.
White pride typically doesn't serve much of a purpose. Black pride or Native American pride or Irish pride or German pride all often serve the purpose of advertising one's culture, or supporting one's own group that's had economic problems stemming from history. There is no white culture though, and white people, on average, are pretty financially well off.
Also, historically, white pride has been mostly rooted in hate groups... so advertising one's "white pride" is basically waving a flag that says "I'm an asshat." Now... if a person wants to have southern pride or something like that I figure that's fine... that's something different than white pride though.
I’m white European and proud to be white
I will marry an European guy too! Because I’m attracted to my country guys. Simple as that. I respect all the races ethnicities nationalities all humans of this world // however I want to say this conversation is deep. The reason of this separation is not between people ,, it’s very deep. Think about it ! I’m giving you you a start push ( they want the world divided.. ) you do your own job now !
Please love yourself you are a queen of red hair lands and blonde hair lands you name it ! Even if you are white American you are decent of Europe anyways babe.
Or a king If you are a guy 😊 read European history European man are very strategic and very bright.
Jesus Christ... how can I be proud to be white? I can be proud only to things that I did. And I don't think that I affected my body color. The same I didn't affected my nationality and I don't understand those nationalist who are proud to be for example Americans or Czechs or whatever. There are also plenty of people who are proud for example to be tall. And there are also a lot of other things. If anybody is proud to be for something that he couldn't affect then 1) I don't think that he did something important in his life and 2) I don't think he understand what does "to be proud" mean.
as a black guy ill say that you'll be especially proud to be white person in asia, you'll be worshiped here...
im not like condoning white blaming at this point but feel like this is the suffering of the blacks back in the days in America that is hitting back at the white people and it's not fair now just like how it isn't back then either...
you can be proud of yourself as a white individual but there's nothing to be proud of about those (white) individuals that humiliated the black Asian and other races which has an impact of centuries just because they had the power which was uncalled for...
Listen, not all white people are bad. I’m a poc and I have plenty of white friends that I’d trust with my life, then there’s people of all races that don’t trust… not because of their race but bc of their character.
Now, to go a little deeper, the past of racial discrimination/racism isn’t that long ago. You say 500 years but the fight for equal rights and to stop getting killed by white men was just beginning in the 50s and 60s to get legalized for POC and women. I still have family leaving that lives through those times. Stories from my grandparents that told me of their times growing up in slavery, and how my great grandparents survived or died.
So if they’re still living, so are the oppressors that helped implant the laws for white succession and white supremacy. As for inventions, most inventions are by poc, with their ideas stolen for white men to take the credit and profit from. JS
You're wrong about the inventions. Most are not by poc. In fact no demographic dominates the invention. To say its mostly poc sounds prejudice and biased because it's simply inaccurate. i can name many white inventors as well as poc inventors.
I’d much rather feel proud of who I am as a person as appose to the colour of my skin. I can never claim to know what it’s like to experience racism and I would never try to compare anything I’ve felt to that. The fact is people are treated differently for the colour of their skin and it’s disgusting. If someone wants to be proud of their heritage then that’s great but defining ourselves by skin colour is pointless, unnecessary and outdated. I wouldn’t want to be any part of that and therefore would never stand here and say I’m proud to be white. I’m proud to just be me as a person who treats others how I prefer to be treated myself.
What is white?
You mean be proud to be American? I'm not sure your American.
I'm Mexican American I am very prideful to be Mexican and appreciate my American upbringing with Mexican culture.
If you wanna to be queen be queen, no one cares. Just love yourself for who you are.
I really want to get that ancestors test though, everyone thinks I'm Philipino and curious if I have native blood. 😊
I have never been proud of skin colour, as in I don’t even think about it.
you go to Scotland, they will they are proud to be Scottish.
Same with Wales and England.
I've got friends that are 2nd, 3rd etc gen Indian, Chinese and they will say they are Proud to be Geordies, as will anyone else of any skin colour but born in Newcastle.
It’s only really racists that go on about skin colour.
I've never thought to myself that I was proud to be white. But I've never been ashamed of it either. I've been proud of my accomplishments, or those of my partner / friends, but to be proud of a skin color that nobody has a choice over, that's just silly to me.
I don't think your color has anything to do with pride. You shouldn't take others work and be proud they you did that. You didn't. It was someone else. What color that person had is irrelevant. If you do something to be proud of why should it matter what color you have. Stop divide people in colors or you will remain a racist.
Only white men don't receive Affirmative Action in universities and the workplace, violating the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment to the US Constitution and turning white men into women's piggy bank.
Well, I am proud of who I am and, to be honest, my skin colour is not at all the reason of that. As I live in a predominantly white country and my skin colour is the same as everyone else's, I'm not self conscious about it. I am who I am and the other people are still the others, despite having the same skin colour as me. I can imagine, p. ex., that black people in predominantly black countries feel the same as me.
I'm proud of who I am where I'm from including the ancestors I have, there is no way The Intersectional/Identitarian MOB, SJW's, or the CRT spouting low brows are ever going to make me ashamed of the colour of my skin, what really pisses me off is those 'leading' The Intersectional/Identitarian MOB, SJW's, or CRT are middle class 'White Savour's' who do what they do because they are ashamed of the life style their parents and grand parents etc, worked so hard to give them.
I think one's point of view would definitely have to be taken into account. For example: Manifest Destiny, Slavery, and the division of South and Northern colonies were awful moments in history.
But if one was able to comprehend the fact that the Spanish, Portuguese, and English did similar things while colonizing, then the White's would see that they weren't so bad. Moreover; from religious tolerance, free speech, and the creation of Nato, this proves that history has gone so far and should be treasured as advances. Whether or not an individual thinks it was great or bad.
I'm not disappointed to be white but I do feel like other races blame whites today for the mistakes of our ancestors. I also find it troubling that for years people of both black and white races keep trying to fix racism with racism. There should be no laws treating either race different or special, there should be no black or white colleges. Until everything is exactly the same for both there will be tension.
I can be proud of my accomplishments- raised a couple of good kids, made a half-way decent home, have a nice family- fairly comfortable retirement nearing. I'm not going to apologize for it: I-along with my wife- earned it! It didn't drop from a governmental cloud. I just happen to have more melanin than some and less than some others.
Media and some weirdos in social media tell you there is a guilt. Personally I never felt guilty for my race. I must admit as I started to improve my English beyond school level, I was surprised about lot of "white guilt" articles in US media.
The media tries to make white pride out to be a form of racism while all other forms of pride are celebrated. Nobody takes it seriously and it's just another disgusting way they try to use fear to control people.
Nobody celebrates White month we don’t even have a month, we get slammed every day And get hated on and we’re always getting accused of something we never even did
well I am not exactly proud to be white, but I am not shameful either.. I feel lucky to be born where I am and being from a people which is not a minority. Somethings are just easier this way.
Why should I be proud of what people did in the past? It is cool, but it was white people who did that because they had the power and money. Not because of their skin colour.
Why would anyone be proud of their ethnicity? It's how you were born, it doesn't mean you accomplished anything yourself.
Like the whole gay pride thing - so you would rather stick your cock in another guys ass instead of a vagina. Fine. But you didn't accomplish anything, it doesn't mean shit - except for on your wiener...
White privledge exists and you should be proud that you have it. That’s not a single attractive Asian guy on the planet that doesn’t like white guys. Most Hispanics wanna be white, and overall white men don’t have to go through racial profiling of any type. Blacks are judged by everybody. If anybody whites are only judged by blacks. Every other race loves you. They admire you and wanna be you because they think “ WHITE IS RIGHT”
I think in general it's weird to be proud of the color of your skin.
It just makes more sense to me, to be proud of something you did yourself in life. Like running a marathon or saving a child from a burning building.
No, its just how you are born and thats nothing to be proud of, thats not an achievement.
Abd sharing a similiar skin colour with Albert Einstein doesn't mean you can take credit for inventing the theory of relativity or something like this.
Being proud to be white is asinine. It's always been asinine. However, being proud to be black is ALSO asinine. As is being proud to be Asian, Middle Eastern or whatever.
It's.
Fucking.
Asinine.
So no--you shouldn't be proud to be white. You should fucking go out there and do something of value and you can be proud of that.
And you can feel free to call out other 'tards who are "proud" of random features they were born with.
Nope, why be proud of what you didn't achieve.
I'm as proud of standing in the shoulders of newton as I'm of ramanujan's, it's about standing proud in the shoulder of giants, not skin color.
I'm proud of being the heir of everything good in the world and bane of everything bad, to the best of my abilities!
People can be proud of who they are in the sense of their individual self but simply being proud of being white does not even mean what you are talking about. The term “white” is typically used to describe Americans with European decent, Europeans don’t typically call themselves white so being proud of being a white American is essentially being proud of genocide, slavery, bloody wars etc.
What are you talking about 😂
Yep that’s what I said
Alright you feel like it’s false and I feel like it’s not we have established this many times 😁
I understand your view of history revolves around your perception of '"African-American history", but there is a lot more to US history than that as well as different perspectives. One of the biggest falsehoods I hear sometimes is that "slavery built the US", which isn't even close to being true. It's inaccurate stuff like that which is the basis for your thinking.
And how do you figure that slavery didn’t build the US
I wasn’t talking about economy
And one of the things I’ve been telling you is blind patriotism and allegiance isn’t healthy and what I meant was literally built. Slaves built buildings like the White House and the capital building that Trump supporters that claim to be patriots broke into.
One can find grievance everywhere if they want, but have you ever thought
I'm very much a critic where criticism is necessary. But I've also spent a lot of time overseas, and I appreciate what we have in the US, while acknowledging it's far from perfect- you see only grievance. I suggest you spend some time overseas as well, maybe in sub-Saharan Africa.
I also suggest that you familiarize yourself with nuances of history that don't fit your extreme racial grievance perspective:
www.whitehousehistory.org/did-slaves-build-the-white-house
Would you tear down the White House because it was built partially using slave labor? Seems like a waste of money to me. That would be the White House occupied for eight years by a black President.
Here's an interesting article about one aspect of the damage to the US economy caused by slavery:
www.business-standard.com/.../...9082600103_1.html
First off I see grievance where grievance is and this country is full of it so I’m not about to wave the American flag and become a blind patriot because I was born here, and secondly I never said anything about tearing down the White House 😂 and third if slavery was detrimental to the us economy then that’s no ones fault other than the Europeans that brought slaves over here in the first place
Maybe you should be grateful for the opportunities you do have (and you have a lot of them). No one is forcing you to live in the US. If I was as full of grievances as you are, I'd move to another country. And you should acknowledge what was built in this country with hard work and innovation because it gives you the standard of living that you enjoy today.
You continue to get yourself tangled up in your own inconsistencies. And you don't even want blacks to take responsibility for things that are entirely within their self-control.
I never said anyone was forcing me to be in this country 😂 the only thing keeping me here is family. If I outlive most of my family members I’m definitely leaving you don’t have to worry about that
Yeah, I'm proud to be white. I mean I'm not proud of some of the things that some whites did in the past to others who are no longer around either. But I am proud of the fact that the majority of the greatest accomplishments of mankind were and continue to be done by whites.
White guilt is a ridiculous product of liberal SJW culture and racism against whites.
I think we should all aim to be proud of who and what we are. Personally I take zero responsibility for what someone else does, or did 500 years ago.
The elitist Twitter zealots seem to need something to moan about and use as a stick to beat others with. It doesn't mean we should accept it as such.
Simple

I absolutely agree. humans hold a grudge for way too long. Everyone should just realize that their own cultures, races etc are just beautiful in their own way. I don't know if I am white since i am mixed but my skin color is white and I am proud of it, I find it beautiful just like other skin tones. I'm proud because I know I am not a part of the people who exclude others because of their race/color.
Yeah of course, with out us people would still be living in the jungles and only live till 30 years old. Unfortunately we didn’t fuck like bunnies and not care how to care of so many children so because of that there are less and less of us. It’s just like the movie “Idiocracy” , where all the dumb people kept breeding and the smart people had very few kids for financial reasons and not want to live off welfare
The left believes that whites will be too strong if they are allowed to feel pride. Their aim is to break them down and humiliate them so that they lose their power and allow others to surpass them. Any white person that goes along with that deserves what they get and their child deserve to be second class citizens as well
No matter how far back in the past you go, you will find dirt on every single race that ever existed. None of us are innocent.
Being proud you were born with a skin color is silly. With a race that was historically oppressed, it's more about gaining rights and bring confident about their identity.
But beyond that, being proud of ones skin color seems silly
Frankly, nobody should be ashamed or proud of their skin color, or anything else they had nothing to do with and didn't earn.
Why is anyone proud of their skin color? I don’t understand. No one is safe in this world. Everyone is an enemy to everyone.. over NOTHING. Because of your ancestry, people judge you. It’s dumb as hell. No one likes anyone because apparently you’re the one and you’re responsible for who oppressed their ancestors 200 years ago.
White is not an ethnicity, for that matter its not even a homogeneous culture. There is nothing wrong with being proud of your French, British, Italian, etc culture. But the color of your skin...
It's silly for anybody to be proud of their skin color... but this isn't a popular opinion in some circles.
Yes, I'm proud to be a human, too. Democrats couldn't say the same as they're a bunch of disgusting animals that I'd never eat, but will happily kill at every opportunity I get
While blacks were picking cotton in Alabama, my ancestors were picking olives in Sicily.
So this white boy has no need for white guilt. My family is guilty of nothing.
Just to be clear, you're proud of being the same colour as some people who actual did something worthwhile. There's no suggestion that you did anything worthwhile yourself. That doesn't seem like a reason for pride to me.
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