You're looking in the right direction, but life took billions, not millions of years to evolve from single cell organisms. After the meteor strike that probably killed off most life including the large dinosaurs, plants and smaller or water-borne creatures were able to survive the resulting lean times and go on to evolve into the species we see today.
@goaded Yes. I'm sorry for that silly mistake.
right? I can't believe how many stupid people there are in this forum
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LOL! Doofus alert!
The fact that you think we base our current understanding and knowledge of evolution on what Darwin said and wrote speaks volumes, because that's not how science works. Darwin opened the door for it (and even then, he wasn't even the first one to put forward the idea) but he was also wrong about a LOT of things. Thanks to scientific advancements and more research, we now know better.Evolution is one of the most higly backed-up and consistently proven concepts within biology, or really any scientific field for that matter. Not accepting it as fact at this point is pretty much equivalent to geocentrism.
@AD240pCharlie What do you mean? Darwin is the father of evolution everything we know is according to what he discovered. He came up with the concept of evolution…!!! together with Wallace. You are free to speak your mind but I’m talking what I have learned. As a scientist. Do you want us to come from evolution? A chimpanzee? Well then be it you are free to believe that. But know that this is never proved it’s just theories. Science is full of theories. Nothing is discovered when it comes to our existence.
No one in the scientific community thinks we "evolved from chimpanzees."
@cryscrys1You make some excellent points. Perhaps it’s not guns that are the problem with mass shootings in America but rather telling people that humans and chimps share common evolutionary ancestors. After all, if we’re just a bunch of highly evolved apes, and evolution soundly destroys creationism and eliminates a higher being who created all this, why not shoot up school? We’re just apes, just a bunch of dumb animals with no one to answer to at the end of this life.Maybe telling people they were not created in God’s image and instead evolved from ape like ancestors due to random events isn’t such a good idea. Why not shoot up a school or concert? After all those aren’t humans with an eternal soul you’ll be killing they’re just the most highly evolved ape. All part of survival of the fittest. The shooter was the fittest and the victims were unfit. Just the law of the jungle. Simple as that. Besides, the same people who promote evolution I’m sure also believe morality is a social construct. Not to worry about judgment at the time of death either because all this was created by random events and there is no God with a hell to put you in. So go for it. Be the fittest to survive and become a true apex predator and become a mass murder or serial killer.
OK I health a lot of debates try to prove me that evolution exist I think I’ll smoke you the first two minutes!
You can't even construct a sentence let alone an argument .
Yeah I know you’re a 23 year old professor and you don’t make mistakes when you type thanks for all the contribution you have made to the humanity Elon musk.
The evidence I see is monkeys are still monkeys which tells you that it is BS. They would be us if it was real. It doesn't matter if it is a the thing they teach you in school. School is an indoctrination center not for education purposes.
Yah that’s it! Because Satan worshipers hate God! And these used the BS evolution to make people leave God! As without God naturally Satan will have power over you.
@MJtheCoach facts! The elite are Satanists. Luciferians to be exact and there is much evidence of this but they have so many people brainwashed that they will never see it.
Yah that’s why we’re fked in C0ViD! Or else if 90% of people didn’t refuse to think. C0ViD would’ve been finished in 2 months max!
I’m not the one promoting evolution some asking you which meaning are you referring to if you believe in evolution you should at least to know the meaning which is the base of your own belief.
@MJtheCoach It would have been over before it even started if any of these people used critical thinking. Instead they suffocate themselves and their kids with a useless mask and want others to do the same. They took a toxic injection that is killing people and want to force that on others as well. The world is doomed.
That’s it! Just stick it out for the next 2/3 all the anti thinkers / Karen’s will be dead! Sadly.. people can’t go there whole lives refusing to think and live to tell about it. And the woke ones will be left over.
@MJtheCoach The people who believe they are the smartest and have degrees are the dumbest in reality it is so sad. They question nothing. As long as they heard it in school or saw it on TV that is proof enough for them. It is very sad.
@Manchild2018 @mjthecoach Get a room, then read a book.
@goaded You pull the same scam every time on here because you are an admin. You pick a fight with people who triggered you with the truth so you can report them. I am not speaking to you anymore. Go look at reality and see that everything you believe is a lie.
@Manchild2018 I'm not an admin, I'm not even (god forbid) an influencer. I can reason.
@goaded No offense but every argument you make on here is the liberal mainstream media narrative. You pretend that the world does not exist outside of what the TV tells us. It is all fake. Whether it is the liberal narrative or the conservative narrative. Just a way to keep the left vs right paradigm going. You fall for it hook, line and sinker.
@Manchild2018 Have you considered the outside possibilty that "the liberal mainstream media narrative" is actually the truth, most of the time?
@goaded No because it's not. Look at reality. No one is sick in public in a year and 8 months. No more ambulances than before but this is a pandemic? The mainstream media says neo nazis are all over the place and everyone is racist. That is not true either. The media tells us we are gonna get nuked it never happened that is a hoax too. The media says asteroids are gonna hit us and kill us hey that never happened either! It is all fake whether it be CNN or Fox News or any of it. I no longer waste my time on that fake fear mongering and I see the world for what it is now which is absolutely nothing that they say it is.
@Manchild2018 Doesn't the fact that you claimed I was an admin, when I'm clearly not, give you pause when it comes to your other beliefs?
@goaded No because I could have sworn that you were one before. That has nothing to do with our reality that the news is lying about. The news wants you in fear 24-7. Clearly this is true. If it wasn't they would report the news not fear. The fear they pushed for covid was not telling you be careful there is a virus out there. It was basically trauma that they put us through. Now a year and 8 months later no vaccine and no mask I go everywhere with no fear and never get sick, In my area things for the time being are back to normal except in hospitals and doctor's offices where they still have masks but it is completely normal everywhere you go yet the news still says covid cases and deaths are spiking in my area. Yet I see the same workers almost every day all fine old people all of my unvaccinated friends are fine. It is BS. They have now put people in fear so bad that TV viruses are gonna control people's lives for years to come. I was a conservative for years now I am more of a truther. I don't buy into the left vs right nonsense anymore. I just want to be left alone and live my life and have my freedom. I don't care about political views.
@Manchild2018 I've never been an admin on this or any other site. The news is, by and large, accurate, it's the "opinions" you have to watch out for.You may not have got sick or died, but the people who died don't get the chance to say anything, do they? I assume you're American, but on the off-chance you're Australian, bear in mind that your country's total death toll is less than America's was yesterday.
@goaded I am American but if you research the PCR test you will see it was created before "covid" even happened and it's purpose was never to diagnose a virus. The creator Kary Mullis said this in the past. Kary also said Fauci was a fraud a while back and Kary died in 2019 before all of this happened. That is very suspicious. People are getting sick and dying but they also said flu cases dropped so low last year as covid cases rose. It is not rocket science. The flu never in history dropped like that before. They counted the flu as covid. Even if you wanna believe the PCR test is not fake which it is they were not using it for those first couple months in 2020 when this supposedly got so bad so how would they be able to tell the difference between covid and the flu or covid and pneumonia? They couldn't so the case and death count is fake.
@Manchild2018 OK, so your country had more covid deaths yesterday than Australia had over the whole pandemic so far. Correction: I just checked, the US numbers are improving, and Aussie numbers so yesterday it was just more than Australia had had until 20 September 2021 (their numbers are shooting up, thanks to Murdoch and muppets not getting vaccinated).I'm pretty sure Mullis was making a distinction between a virus and a disease (he insisted that having HIV didn't mean you had AIDS). The PCR test detects the virus.All you have to do to answer the question of why flu cases were few last year is to consider how people were behaving: Everyone was washing their hands and wearing masks and disinfecting surfaces to avoid a virus. Those things don't just work on the covid virus, you know!The initial testing was insufficient, especially in America, because there were simply too many cases, too quickly (and there was a bureaucratic bottleneck for creating new ones at the beginning). The difference between covid and flu was pretty obvious; a bad flu year's worth of deaths in less than a month, and over half a million people infected. (New York alone had 20,000 deaths between mid March and mid April 2020).What should shock and embarrass Americans is that Florida has now exceeded New York's total deaths, despite the availability of vaccines and great advances in how to treat it. Half of Florida's deaths have been since January 2021, half of New York's were before mid-May 2020.
Yah! Stupid scream and get angry. I just leave them or say oh yah wow! Let stupid people drowns in their own stupidity. Look at the stupid shit on Tiktok! The sad reality of dumbing down of humanity.
@goaded If masks stop the spread then how did wearing masks make flu cases go down but covid cases went up? It makes absolutely no sense at all. Those flu cases were covid cases. Ya know a year and 8 months into a pandemic we would not even be having this conversation if this was a real pandemic. We would all be affected by it. We are not. Almost all my old high school friends are still alive since this started and the few who aren't died of other things. No virus. All my Facebook friends are still alive. All the people I have seen on GAG for 3 years are still alive. I know 1 person who they said died of covid. My cousin who needed a kidney and died of a heart attack. If you know about the New World Order it should be obvious what is happening here. They distract you with left vs right when really the liars are all working together against us. These people consider us cattle. They want us dead and if you think that is not true just google some foods they sell in American grocery stores. I had to stop eating Fruity Pebbles, Lucky Charms and other things because they contain either a cancerous dye or a cancerous chemical. The FDA approves this. The government who is supposed to protect us from this very thing so I don't trust a damn thing they say.
@Manchild2018 Flu is less contagious (and less deadly) than covid, especially the Delta variant. Masks aren't perfect, but they help (there are three studies here that demonstrate it www.cdc.gov/.../p0924-school-masking.html ).Of course it's a real pandemic, just because you don't know someone who died from it personally or didn't notice they'd stopped posting on social media doesn't mean people didn't die. I see that's not even true, you do know someone personally.There were hundreds of thousands more deaths in the US in 2020 than in any of the previous five years. Six people living in the street where my daughter lives died of it. Five right-wing anti-vax broadcasters have died of it.
@goaded See there you go with the left vs right BS again and until you realize that all TV news and news articles online are just propaganda and lies you are not gonna get what I am saying. The media is controlled by big pharma so anything they say is questionable. Be prepared to take multiple boosters for years because that was the goal from the start of this. The more you take the weaker your immune system gets the harder it will be to survive. I know 3 people who had family members die after getting the vaccine. So I know of more people dead from the shot than from "covid". The narrative does not make any sense whatsoever.
@Manchild2018 The only time I mentioned right wing in that particular post was when I described the dead broadcasters. They're all dead. They were all anti-vax. They were all right-wing. The first two are the most inportant features. You ignored the studies that show masks help, which were nothing to do with pharma companies."I know 3 people who had family members die after getting the vaccine."Millions of people have died after reading the New York Post. When I die, I will be one of them. It won't be the reason."So I know of more people dead from the shot than from "covid"."No, you don't.
Really? Where in the fossil record is there a change in kind? You know as in kingdom, genus, filum, species etc? A change of kind is required for evolution to be true and correct.I’ll save you the time of researching for hours on end to find an example of a change in kind in the fossil record because not one exists. It’s called “the missing link” and will remain missing forever because evolution is a myth.
@Exterminatore ok buddy lets see your research paper. and it better be peer reviewed...
@Still-aliveLet’s see yours. I already gave you mine and proved yours to be false.
@Exterminatore you did no such thing lol
Well I’ll just be over here…busy…. disproving this cock and Bull story. In the meantime let me know when you find that missing link so you can prove a change in kind which is REQUIRED for Darwinian evolution to be true and accurate.
@Exterminatore there's plenty out there you just refuse to see it
Ok then. Name one. Just one. I’ll check back in a few days for your response which will be…. ummmm…. yeah there only theoretical changes of kind and no instances of it actually happening.
@Exterminatore why bother when you don’t even understand what a “scientific theory” means.I suppose the “theory of gravity” os just as fallacious right?
Gravity is provable and tangible and is not a theory.Darwinian evolution is a theory. There are exactly 0 cases in the fossil record of a change in kind. There is no missing link. There are no repeatable results which according to the scientific method, a hypothesis must be repeatable.So gravity - actually provable. Darwinian evolution - actually not provable. Also, get better sarcasm.
@Exterminatore yeah you clearly exist on a different material plane then the rest of us do. your 'logic' doesn't work here.
Yeah? You’re Jedi mind tricks don’t work here either.
@Exterminatore nor do yours. Anyways i thought you were leaving?
"Kind" is a deliberately poorly defined weasel word anti-evolutions use to muddy the conversation.And /all/ fossils are missing links. Every fossil is a missing link between its predecessor and ancestors. We have more than sufficient fossils to see a lineage, we do not require every generation of every species to have a fossil to do so. It's naive to even ask for such a thing - we know that the criteria for fossils to form is very specific and doesn't happen often enough for a perfect fossil record to exist.What you're doing is the equivalent of looking at a 50% completed jigsaw puzzle and concluding there's no way to know what the image is of, while we can clearly see headlights, a wheel and a Lamborghini badge.
*Sorry, predecessor and ancestor are interchangeable. Should've said ancestor and descendant.
@CountessSarahI don’t know if I can agree that kind is poorly defined. We can look at animal taxonomy for a clear definition of how it’s used.All fossils are not missing links in regards to this subject. To prove Darwinian evolution there must be clear fossil records where we can see a change in kind. The point at which chimps went one way on the evolutionary tree and humans went the other. We don’t have that. It’s called the missing link. It’s not just one missing piece but several really.Yes, we can show linage through the fossils we do have, if by linage you mean variations within a given species. I take no exception to mutations causing a variation in kind. Trout for example all have one common trout ancestor from which we get brown trout, rainbow trout, brook trout and any other kind of trout in existence. This is completely provable. In this respect we can see linage not in bone but alive In front of our very eyes. The problem is trout are all types of fish so evolutionary theory can account for variations in any given kind from the original. However since the main theory of Darwinian evolution is that a new kind or for lack of better words a new animal was created, not just an altered form. Rainbow, brown, and Brooke are all types of trout and all types of fish. What we don’t have is a fish becoming a different animal. That is what Darwinian evolution is say happened in human evolution but it is completely unprovable. 50% of the puzzle is debatable. Due to the missing link any bones or fossils claiming to be a new animal that evolved. An animal never seen before is not possible. We never see a fish becoming a cat in the fossil records. We do see fish become new fish…but they’re fish. Take Lucy for example. There is plenty of debate about all of her bones. Some will say as you that 50% of the evidence is there so it’s fair to assume it’s out there and we just need to fill in the blanks. Others are highly skeptical as to what we do have demonstrating a
@Exterminatore You must define 'kind' otherwise I see no reason to continue this.I think you know 'kind' is a weasel word and have deliberately skirted around defining it because you know I'm right.
@CountessSarah i know right i never hear anyone other than science denying punks like him say words like that. no scientist i know takes it seriously.
Change in kind. You have made your point clear it all comes down to which scientists do you want to believe? I knew what you meant in regards to ancestor and descendent.So that’s where it is. You would be completely correct if with the bones we do have there was little or no debate a new animal has been created. However there is a lot of debate and speculation on the pieces we do have and there is reasonable scientific data to support the scientists who say…no change in kind. Those pieces are not a new animal because of thus and so. I doubt in our lifetime they will ever come to a consensus.
@still aliveStay in your own lane. We are talking to each other not you. Besides…you have a missing link to find don’t you?
"Debate and speculation" from people who know enough about the topic to offer valid criticisms, including the use of weasel words like 'kind'.You either give me an example of two 'kinds' that you would expect to see an evolutionary process between or we're done here. No more slippery language.
@Exterminatore more like you. you haven't proved anything you said so far. the onus is on you to provide proof.
Very well. I define kind and species are synonymous as far as I’m concerned. You?
No it’s on you as you have none.
@Exterminatore ok so you can just say whatever you want without providing evidence but we can't huh? thats how you think this works?
@Exterminatore The fuck do you mean?I'm not the one using the word 'kind'. Why do I have to define /your/ term? No, fine. I'll define 'kind'.Kind 1 is a wolf.Kind 2 is a dog.Dogs are descendants of wolfs and now speciated from them. Evolution is proven using the 'kinds' definition.Done.
@Exterminatore in fact we have a pretty solid idea of how creatures like whales came from wolf-like quadrapeds. This is easily googlable. Other such examples of well known evolutionary lines are horses and elephants.
@Exterminatore and the earth is also flat.
@Exterminatore you said you wanted examples of a change in species. We've actually observed that in nature. For example there were the two new species of American goatsbeards (or salsifies, genus Tragopogon) that sprung into existence in the past century. In the early 1900s, three species of these wildflowers - the western salsify (T. dubius), the meadow salsify (T. pratensis), and the oyster plant (T. porrifolius) - were introduced to the United States from Europe. As their populations expanded, the species interacted, often producing sterile hybrids. But by the 1950s, scientists realized that there were two new variations of goatsbeard growing. While they looked like hybrids, they weren't sterile. They were perfectly capable of reproducing with their own kind but not with any of the original three species - the classic definition of a new species.From : blogs.scientificamerican.com/.../
Yep, anyone who disagrees with evolution hasn't evolved much in the brain, aka dumbasses
It's so clear to see we are very similar to apes all you have to do look at a man's chest hair and skull and beard...
And look at the muscles of gorillas like the pectorals and arms and legs. Very similar to a human
Yup! Pretty sad people think they can argue with science.
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The lion smashes tonight 🤭🤐
Yep, also another rational question. you. must ask... if we got a time. machine and kept going back and seeing who's parents was who... you think eventually you'd go back far enough there's jus two humans,,, then where did they come from?It's obvious if you keep going back we start to look more like apes.. then monkeys... Then whatever was before that... Nothing just appears from nothing.. i
If the Big Bang Theory (BBT) is true it would require a supreme being to start it all. The BBT hypothesizes that one densely packed atom exploded into to literally everything. Where did the atom come from then? Since you can’t have something created from nothing, you require a being outside out of our space and time continuum to create the atom that exploded into everything. Violates the laws of thermodynamics to have something created from nothing matter can only change forms but never be created or destroyed. Every molecule that exists was on this planet day 1. Every molecule is still here. Many have changed forms but none were destroyed.
Dogs and cats are far more different than Humans and Orangutans.en.wikipedia.org/.../Timeline_of_the_evolutionary_history_of_life
Wikipedia is a terrible source of information.
It's really not.Is saying Wikipedia isn't a valid source during an argument an admission of defeat? ↗