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What are your biggest issues with MGTOW? (Page 2)
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I think more and more men and women are do and going their own way, as we all want more out of life
I have no issues with them. I went my own way. I "recruited" and East Asian girl and WENT MY OWN WAY"!.
Uhm I like women there like guy's so are great some are assholes I don't think condemning women as a whole is a good way to go.
To me they seem like a response to narcissitic feminism like "Who cares about you! If I don't have contact with you, your power and your victim morality loses its meaning."
I think some of the complaints brought by MGTOW are valid, but my problem with the movement is that’s pretty much all it does, complain. Not much action or self improvement, just bitterness.
I have no issues with it, only with certain folks who get toxic
I don’t have a problem because I go my own way I don’t date I just fuck women and everyone has a problem with it like where is it written that if a man does not date or get married he doesn’t get to fuck
It's nihilistic, unhealthy, and goes against our biological design and urges.
the same as with feminism. they blame people for their problems that have nothing to do with their problems.
The actual concept of MGTOW is fine with me. I have no problem with it. However, the men who take part in it are just a bunch of crybabies who constantly b**** about women.
The lack of healthy agree to disagree actions towards other men in the same group. Some become the same thing they swore to never become. in my opinion
The fact that they whine and complain and they don’t act like strong independent men.
There’s nothing wrong with choosing to be a single man but MGTOW takes the wrong approach entirely.
I hadn’t heard of this. Thanks for clueing me up
No problem 👍🏼 I recommend the youtuber Better Batchelor too. If you're interested in learning more about mgtow
Do you think that it’s a response to feminism? Or something other?
Modern feminism, yes. And the way it has demonized men and masculinity when it comes to dating/relationships/marriage/and cohabitation.
Would you say that you’re against modern feminism, as it is?
Absolutely
Other thoughtful commentators, some have had to leave YouTube and go to Bitchute or Patreon:
--Darius M
--Karen Straughn, a. k. a., GirlWritesWhat (Yes, a woman no less, believe it or not!)
--Thinking-Ape
Some other good ones, although their tack may be more crude, are:
--Aaron Clarey, a. k. a., "Asshole Consulting"
--Terrence Popp
They are nothing more than the male equivalent of feminists, which makes them sad little victims who blame the opposite sex for their failures.
The three most successful men I know were practically MGTOW in college up until about 25-30
I've been going my own way all my life , except with a woman along my side.
I can't say I have any issues with them. If they want to leave women it leaves more for the rest of us. So all good for me.
the learned helplessness of it. you're blaming others for you plight.
They are losers. There is nothing masculine about giving up on women.
My primary objection is that it does not fix anything, its like a retreat rather than an advance. The men's movement needs to change society for the better, not hide from it.
Nothing mgtow and redpill is life saver. Women still thinks the they can only bring a hole to the table
Stupidity. Generalize all women as bad and not worth it. Who in their right mind will pay these losers any mind is beyond me.
I'm sure you'll come to understand one day
No, I won't because I'm a logical man that isn't blinded by bitterness nor stupidity on the manophere.
@heartache0405 Bro life is hard as fuck and it gets frustrating for you and me both but MGTOW doesn’t solve our problems
@WhitrBoyChill, it's the only thing that can simply explain why I don't date. Why I don't do relationships. Why I refuse to ever marry or have kids. Try explaining all of that without saying you're a part of mgtow
It sounds to me like you just don’t have an interest in women. I seen you say before you’re just asexual. Which is fine so long as you don’t join movements that actively promote misogyny amongst their members
I don't believe that mgtow promotes misogyny. Some of the men within it might but the phylosiphy as a whole does not. I believe that it is largely attacked by misandry though
So is it really about just being independent then? I mean if you want to be single that’s fine but most men feel differently
That's how I view it. As a man's personal independence. I don't see how that is so wrong. What's wrong with personal independence as a man?
Nothing is wrong with that. If that truly was what it was about. @Hispanic-Cool-Guy himself is a single man in his 30’s.
However you said in the comments below you saw nothing wrong with a user’s reply where he pointed out how the MGTOW movement makes claims about how all women are.
It’s simply not true that all women are gold diggers.
Not all are, but majority of women do search for wealth when looking for a mate. You wouldn't see a woman going for a poor guy. And if you have I'd genuinely be shocked
No women want a poor guy. They just want a guy that’s stable who can provide for them
Provide for them until they decide to divorce then take half of everything the man has including the kids if there are any and start providing for themselves. Leaving the man with nothing.
Well that’s BS. That’s not what happened with my parents. Nor my Grandparents, nor anybody else in my family
Happened to my dad. At least the part where he has to pay my mom every month. My siblings and I were old enough to have weekends back and forth between our parents. Now we are all in college or have jobs.
I admit that it can happen BUT it isn’t like that with an overwhelming majority of women to the point where guys need to feel discouraged
If it weren't overwhelming than why would mgtow or the MRA for that matter exist? These things wouldn't if there wasn't a problem that made mgtow and MRA necessary
Its just men overreacting. There’s little evidence to support their claims
And why do you think that is? Maybe because society doesn't want it to be known?
Or maybe because you’re just assuming things. I don't know
Must be. Because apparently I’m the only one who sees a problem that no one else does or at least cares to see. But I digress
Men who are too pathetic to be REAL MEN
I dont care about a bunch of gay men
Nowhere does it say that men who are mgtow are gay 😂 But you can think whatever you want if it makes you so butt hurt
Triggered 304 lol
GAY MEN 😂😂😂😂
A mirror of feminism.
I don't know why you need a movement to do that.
@heartache0405 Why don't you just be gay?
I don't find men attractive that way.
Nah, you are straight up in denial about that.
Lol, if you say so 😂
Take your bro love to the next level.
Not interested
Thats cool. What about Big Steve though?