Does US Fear China? Can US Army Take on China in a WAR in South China sea?

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We Know about The Conflict in South China sea, Under these Circumstances If China Try to Invade and Capture  Taiwan  then Will US go to the Extent of a  WAR with China to Protect Taiwan and to safeguard American Interests in South China Sea  ?

jaybee281 · Accepted Answer

No I don't think it'll protect Taiwan - The steps China is taking are close to any country that is looking to expand - Even like nazi Germany - Think of Taiwan to China and the USA as a supposed Poland to nazi Germany and the allies - They were supposed to do something - They didn't do shit - Unless the USA at some point is actually looking forward to war - Which it isn't - They'd use china attacking Taiwan as an alibi to start a war.. But I ultimately see none of this happening - It'll just continuously keep on being an economic war where china keeps going up while the usa and Europe are on the decline

Iron_Man · Accepted Answer

No I don’t fear China do you think China can handle handle our fighter pilots?

ADFSDF1996 · Answer

China by itself can’t. Currently there isn’t a single country in the world that can take on the US one on one.

MrOracle · Answer

In a conventional war, the US would annihilate the Chinese military. That's not to say that it wouldn't come at a cost - the US would certainly take losses. But, for example, China doesn't have a single operational fixed-wing carrier. The US has 11 carrier groups. Conventionally, the main threat would be submarine attacks, but the US has the means to deal with them as well. China has 66 submarines, with more than half of them being old Russian diesel boats or Chinese copies - but they do have a small number of nuke boats and some ballistic missile subs - those would be the primary threat, and they would be the primary targets of the US Navy. If the US can eliminate the nuclear-powered subs, China would be nearly defenseless on the ocean.

From a strictly military viewpoint, the big problem with China is that they have nukes (nuclear bombs/missile warheads - including sub-launched missiles). I'd say that the US is less prepared than China to lose cities to nuke attacks.

But perhaps even the bigger threat than that is that we've stupidly allowed ourselves to become incredibly reliant on China, even for strategically important things like computer chips. In a war with China, 2/3 of the items in our stores would disappear, and would stay gone for YEARS. Not only would you not be able to buy a TV, computer, smartphone, or other electronic device, you also wouldn't be able to buy an appliance - no refrigerators, no freezers, no ovens, no microwaves, no dishwashers, etc. It's all made in China.

And forget about cars - half of the parts in the car you drive were manufactured in China. Those would disappear overnight, and it would be years before factories would be set up somewhere else and start filling parts orders.

Make no mistake: this would also be devastating to China, because THEY depend so heavily on the US dollar, and without trillions of dollars a year pouring into China, their financial markets would collapse. That's really the main thing keeping them from getting frisky. Xi isn't concerned with the deaths of a couple hundred million Chinese - he's concerned that he wouldn't be able to buy a decent car to drive, or have a decent meal, much less maintain control over so many people who depend on him financially once the money went away.

But, if we're strictly talking about conventional forces, the US would quickly have complete air superiority and would sink every ship that got out of visual range of the Chinese coast.

Canuck37 · Answer

The US should not fear China. The United States spent $778.0 billion on its military in 2020; China spent $252.0 billion. To put this another way: 39% of all global military spending was spent by the United States. The United States' military is still clearly above China's military in nearly every way except manpower; they have nothing to fear.

However, the great difficulty of militaries has always been projection. It's one thing to have a massive military at home; but can you project that military power overseas?

The United States has the benefit of having allies in South Korea, Japan, and the Philippines, all of whom would lend military bases to American fighter jets should America need it in a war. But America would still face the problem of logistics: how difficult would it be to supply a major military campaign halfway across the globe?

For China, the problem of logistics is easy: it borders the South China Sea. It doesn't need to project its power because we're talking about a place that directly borders China. China would be able to employ its full military strength in a conflict in the South China Sea. Because of this, it's fair to suggest China would be able to hold its own against America in the South China Sea.

However, a war between the United States and China would not be limited to a South China Sea theatre. China knows that they would need to invade America itself if America was going to make any serious concessions in a peace treaty. If you thought America has problems with power projection, China's problems are far worse. China has no allies near America; China has no hope of sustaining the logistics necessary to mount an amphibious assault of America's Pacific coast.

For that reason, you're going to see an uneasy truce in the South China Sea. China knows it cannot defeat America, and America knows a conflict with China would cause massive casualties. That's essentially unwinnable for both powers. They're going to shout bad things at each other while doing the minimum necessary to avoid war.

PeterQuillsAlive · Answer

I believe the United States has the strength to defeat the Chinese in a war.
However, the issue today is the United States lacks the will to pursue such an outcome.

We only have to look at Afghanistan to see that reality.
The Afghan Government and Military (ANDSF) controlled the war from 2014-2021, and were given only limited supported by the United States, while those resources continued to dwindle over the years
For example, the United States military manpower in Afghanistan in 2010 was 100,000
however, in 2014 it was 14,000.. and by 2020 it was 2,000.
This soldiers were largely used for logistics, and American casualties were very minor over those years.
It was for all purposes an Afghan led war

However, it was also clear the Afghan Government and Military were horribly corrupt and inept. They slowly lost ground to the Taliban over the years...
Once the United States removed all of its resources...
it only took 2 weeks for the ANDSF and Afghan Government to collapse

Did it have to happen? No.
The United States could have kept a small contingent of soldiers to prevent any collapse.
However, the United States simply lack any interest or will to do that...
due to a mix of political divide, and new social/cultural standards.

What was a perfectly acceptable situation in 2020.. that required very little in the ways of cost or blood by the USA
became a horrible political disaster in 2021.

When it comes to Taiwan
I have no doubt of the Taiwanese Governments abilities to fight.. it is clearly unified, professional, and has the will
HOWEVER!
I doubt the United States has the will to fight the Chinese today...
there is too much cultural/societal decay

GreenLanternI0I · Answer

Do you know why German High Tech tanks during WWII that were way ahead of their times, were not able to stop Soviet weak and extremely low quality tanks? because of QUANTITY!
Do you know why German soldiers who had automatic rifles with high capacity magazines were not able to stop Soviet soldiers who were carrying shovels and rakes? because of QUANTITY!
China WILL win a war against United States for 2 simple reasons.
1. QUANTITY of Every military equipment and raw human power (soldiers)
2. For decades they were bribing the most important and top end people, we are talking about generals, scientists, politicians etc... with A LOT of money and letting these very important and top people do things to boys and young girls that will get them Death Sentence in a Nano-second if public ever finds out. So when, not if, but when time comes, China will ask nicely and politely those top and very important people to open the doors for Chines military and guess what, they will not be able to say no.

Stoner710 · Answer

Given we has a 1978 agreement with Taiwan that if China attacked them then we would defend there, Honestly if China attacked between now and the 2022 election there’s a good shot we wouldn’t defend them, Of course democratic are going to get a huge spanking in the midterms Democratic have lost there popularity with there radicalness, So likely joe Biden will get impeached and removed from office just like the tried to do with trump, Democratic started with game and it will back fire. When that happens and a republicans is put in charge of the White House then we would go and defend Taiwan, The issue right now is Biden but yes we are willing to start ww3 over Taiwan’s independence and if we don’t frankly we should be isolated from the rest of the world and no one trust us to uphold our promises ever again they should loose faith in the USD and bankrupt the United States and not allow it’s people to leave the United States until the government is no more and a new one is out back in its place

CharlesScene · Answer

The US doesn't fear china in any way. Plus, China would have some obstacles in its way. I don't know the exact location of it, however, there is a US Carrier Group in the area between or near the between areas of Taiwan and China, to prevent China even getting to Taiwan.

With Taiwan being an Island, even despite it not being to far away from China or land connected to China. China would only be able to reach Taiwan through Sea or Air and guess what? The US currently has the more Technological advanced Navy and Air Force in the World, and both US Air Force and US Navy are heavily considered to best in the world.

To put some numbers in there for you.
The US Air Force currently has the most Aircraft in the world at 13,000 total. This is 4x more than what China has which is currently 3,000 total Aircraft. China is also in 2nd in the world for the most Aircraft. The US Navy currently has the most Aircraft Carriers in the world, at 11 total Aircraft Carriers. China currently only has 2 Aircraft Carriers. Also, Chinas carriers are still living in the 80s, their carriers are still powered by Oil-fired Boilers and carry only 24 aircraft, to where all 11 of the US carriers are 40 years ahead of Chinas 2, and currently, All 11 US carriers are Nuclear Powered, giving them a longer run time, less need to refuel, and at minimum the US carriers will carry 60 Aircrafts, some ships carry more.

So, does the US fear China, "currently", NO. However, China has a goal of becoming a modern military by 2027. They also increased their Defense budget by 6%. While even their new budget of $252 Billion is no where close to the US budget of $778 Billion, China is 2nd behind the US for most money spent on its Military, and is catching up fast to where the US currently sits today, which can cause problems later

sean1234 · Answer

Matthew 24:1-15 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

http://play. google. com/store/apps/details? id=bible. kingjamesbiblelite

It's an important chapter about the future, I suggest reading the whole of it.

BeMuse · Answer

The USA would spank China so hard it's not even funny. China has no combat experience. Americans are the best warriors int he world. It would be like pulling some random soy boy off the street and putting them in the ring with a world champion boxer and saying let's get it on!

Grond21 · Answer

It depends on who is in power. If the current Administration is in power when China makes its move, I think they will threaten and publicly shame, but pull back the military and not do anything to protect Taiwan or any of the other countries in the area.

England4eva · Answer

I don’t think it’s worth any government fearing anyone otherwise anxiety would last a lifetime for every presidential power. I mean there are constant talks of war, it’s an ongoing topic between countries were there should be talks of emergency environmental discussions.

Two big powers using modern day missiles and warfare will be catastrophically devastating to every living thing on this planet. Let’s pray that everyone has some awareness of the global fatalities, which we would probably never recover from.

LZPanzer · Answer

The US doesn't fear China.
US politicians fear LOSING power to china. They like being the only super power in the world and being able to take unilateral actions anywhere they want. Now that China has similar influence to the US our politicians are facing push back, and they don't like that.

They will do anything to delegitimize china.
That's why US politicians backed the idiotic theory covid was a lab created virus when all the scientists said it evolved naturally. Had china created a virus to "weaken" to US they wouldn't release it on there own population. That's bioweapons 101

MrCommodore · Answer

I think they fear China's intentions if they come to power, rather than fear China being a successful Country that does well for its people.

China has a international reputation for brutally quashing any dissent from citizens or lesser nations, they don't tolerate any questioning of their authority or actions. They aren't elected by the people, their leadership is from a small group of Elite people. They censor Internet etc too.

The West has serious political flaws too, but at the press are free to publish scandals or corruption, that is not the case in China, Russia and others.

I think the USA, China and others need to stop trying to run the world, focus on their own regions.

NamerOfStars · Answer

If they're smart, they both fear each other. If Xi is smart, he'll leverage the PR gain from retaking Hong Kong and NOT do something as stupid as pushing for Taiwan. Some saber-rattling in the region is inevitable, but a shooting war would be devastating for both sides, and I think that everyone involved knows it.

Actually, if Xi was REALLY smart, he'd leave it at rattling and start investing into improving the internal infrastructure of China; that population bomb is going to cause them HUGE problems, and attracting immigrants could help offset that. A grab for Taiwan would produce nothing but corpses, and at best, a wasted, bombed-out hunk of rock. Hardly the kind of legacy you want to leave for your administration- let alone your empire.

007kingifrit · Answer

china isn't dangerous because they are powerful, they are dangerous because they are weak and they know it.

they might try to grab taiwan before their economy collapses but they know a collapse is coming.

they have the lowest birth rate, they don't have any more young people coming in, their navy can't secure their resources abroad and so they will run out of food and energy and already are

their economy is built on debt to make growth, not actual growth

Kaneki05 · Answer

America cannot beat Vietnam they cannot beat China lol.
Not that I think china would actually start anything anyway, there is no need the risk when they are thriving. And then if China did start anything it would not be just USA it would have to worry about since pretty much all countries would just start a war on china. China allies don't really exist.
And the world vs china yeah china loses.

Robber_Baron · Answer

The US has already lost this conflict.

The reason is that it's not only about China, the US and Western Europe would fight in 3 fronts: 1) the South Asian Sea, against China. 2) Eastern Europe, against Russia. 3) The Middle East, against Iran. If a war erupts in one of those regions, the other two will follow them.

At the best case scenario, the US and its serfs in Europe will quit after paying a huge economic toll, experiencing a huge loss of life and getting its aircraft carriers sank.

At worst case scenario, the North Hemisphere would cease to exist due to nuclear fallout.

The only way to avoid these scenarios is through diplomacy, but we have an actual idiot like Antony Blinken as Sec of State and Americans are seemingly becoming suicidal to the point of not caring about the consequences of such a war.

Anonymous · Answer

There's a bit of an irony of imperalism, to grow a countries influence also requires the economy to grow. And often time economies don't expand well. Just look at what happened to the Romans. Anyone who's smart would know that if the US has worse tactics than just out right war. Conflict with the US would be an apsolute horrible idea.

Particularly if the US resorts to like ecological warfare. Something that most countries assume is the US has only guns. What's to say if someone smuggled a giant load of gmo mosquitoes into the center of bejing. O. O the one thing more scary than getting shot XD.

lilaccc · Answer

haha.. i don't wanna talk about it, to be precise i hate to seeing war. in the past is enough, no more.

bigslab · Answer

What you seem to be forgetting is that the USA has stuff like this at it's disposal

LinaDaGoddess · Answer

Yes because china is trying to take over everything.

BipBipLeddus · Answer

Both have access to nuclear weapons, therefore neither will force the others' hand.

Leonharted · Answer

No. Their economy is a paper tiger because they destroyed most of their farmland to build ghost cities. They need to import food. America is the biggest producer of food.

Unless nuclear water is on the table, we can win without firing a shot or putting a pair of boots on the ground. It’ll hurt us too, but it’ll destroy China.

jshm2 · Answer

USA is like the old Soviet Union - out of date and out of touch.

The world is about collaboration, not superpowers, these days.

The USA is stuck in the bad old days of one country telling all others how to run.

As for war. The USA has lost more than it's won. Vietnam and Afghanistan showed that hardware doesn't mean much difference on the field if the political setup isn't right.

HighValue · Answer

The USA can defeat China in a war quite easily, especially if the USA doesn't try to avoid killing civilians since other countries like to use their own citizens as human shields against us. BUT, right now we have a very weak, anti American president and I doubt that Biden would actually go to war over Taiwan. The democrats make too much money from China so they won't go to war with them.

dustybiker · Answer

It would never happen. Not between two countries that need each other.

Wester1967 · Answer

China is the front end of all your wal mart capitalist super cheapo supply chains. No capitalist in their right mind will support war with their bread and butter. Unless you're so consumed with us vs them ideology that you might as well be self lobotomized.

hafinjun · Answer

I don't know if we can take china, but whether we do we don't the war with them would be horrible in my opinion and that's before it goes nuclear

Jaysonava · Answer

Right now so many countries have been infiltrated by agents I am not worried about which country is governing, only whether or not the leaders of that country fear their own people and are not corrupt.

Slartybartfast · Answer

Most Americans can find China on a map. It's where cheaply made disposable stuff like comes from till Walmart moves to a cheaper place..

Ericalovescats · Answer

We can win but it's not worth it due to the loss of life.

ohshee · Answer

Where have you been for the last past two and a half months we've been in a cyber War air-to-air missile with China trying to bomb Guam and tried to take it over we've been shooting missiles back and forth each other for two and a half months

blueazure · Answer

I don't know. It depends on them. Anyone can win. Depends on the strategy they will use. And the leadership.

Anonymous · Answer

I think the more important question here is "What would this do to White male/Chinese female relations?" There's something more important at risk here guys, lets all just calm down.

mstbooblover · Answer

Sorry man, I'm not qualified to answer such questions.

TsAubreyKate · Answer

I’ve never been more certain of America losing another war unless it was against China

qwert1234 · Answer

The US doesn't fear China as much as China doesn't fear the US. But both countries know they cannot go to war directly with each other and that they must use other smaller countries to fight for them.

Dargil · Answer

Our current admiration and military leadership has no will to do this. They are too obsessed with unisex bathrooms and "woke" politics. We are fukked. We are going to have to rely on Japan, South Korea, Philippines and Vietnam.

Hadyyy · Answer

I highly doubt that these two countries would go to war. Considering the fact that the US already is in debt to China.
Furthermore, the US Army doesn't have the numbers that the Chinese do. However, what they may lack in numbers [US] they have more power.

For the matter of the South China Sea, many countries are involved and it is a very strategic area where there are many parties that want a piece of that cake.

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

The U. S. will beat China down like the suckas they are. The U. S. military isn't to be played with.

Texaskid1 · Answer

The Chinese have magic Kung - Fu powers. They will use these powers to win.

FunkyMonkee · Answer

Joe won't let us fight China, they're his good buddies!! He's just gonna open the doors and LET them in to take over the country!!

KostasKouvalis · Answer

This administration does. I see most of the world is scared to death of China. I don't know why. If they all ganged up on them, they couldn't fight everyone.

anylolone · Answer

Yes, the US could take china, specially since the whole world would gladly help.

Manuel2 · Answer

Considering most us weapons are Chinese made. I wouldn't

Anonymous · Answer

It really depends. With the president we have right now I'm not sure he'd stand up to anyone.
As for being afraid of China. War with China is just bad business. Things would have to deteriorate a lot more than they are now.

Honestguyopen · Answer

Whatever happens we know the world crisis will get worse with each passing day  It's up to us to be kind to one another to make what is coming bearable.

cinch · Answer

I don't know and I'm not interested in any kind of war

lottiebannotie · Answer

I don't think the US fear China however wisely approach with caution as opposed to going straight to war

jimmy2 · Answer

I know one some years ago who went to the Army and in basics he was train to fight 6 Chinese

IndyZee · Answer

I'm not sure with the current administration and the direction our country has gone in the last 30 years... it's very sad and very scary.

Shiningtempest · Answer

@priyakigaandme If there was a war between US & China, then we're doomed.

rowso · Answer

The US would lose to anyone with Biden in charge

LegendaryIcon · Answer

it fears its own people, than any other country. trust me on this

Quigly · Answer

It's not China vs the U. S.. It's China vs the world.

EnglishEuropean · Answer

China and the US can wipe each other out many times over, which is why there won't be a war.

Retiever · Answer

I personally believe we could but we would suffer high casualties.

emperor90 · Answer

Nope china will win they control everything

Papabubbles · Answer

Fear probably not. War guarantee nuclear holocaust.

josephinelcajon · Answer

Nothing is going to happen between the superpowers

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