Do you see this war hurting or helping the Russians long term?

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What do you think?

VanillaSalt · Accepted Answer

Let’s be fair to Russia for this…Ukraine shut down Russia’s water source… they are a border that supports a known enemy… Ukraine is a USA satellite colony. We installed their government like we always do… Russians in Ukraine have been treated badly for years even citizens… Putin’s doing what he can for his people in my opinion…Also let’s not forget the good things that come from this. War stimulates economy… unless he’s a complete dunce, which he is, Biden will be forced to reopen the Keystone Pipeline for security thus reducing gas and oil prices and giving many people jobs… if a war do actually happen then imagine all these weak ass men and women being forced to grow up.“Strong men make easy times. Easy times make weak men. Weak men make hard times. Hard times make strong men.”Don’t know who said this but this will be helpful for our economy, population, society, and way of thinking. Gives our government the opportunity to prove its necessity to the people and restore their faith in it. Then again that’s if Biden don’t fumble the damn ball which he will…

ChrisMaster69 · Accepted Answer

Really hurting them.

The UN has now pretty much said, this underpins the end of fossil fuels and countries need to be self sufficient with fuels, the EU pretty much echoed that,

Germany have woken up and are going to build up and rebuild, reequip, modernise, their Armed Forces and a lot of European nations are also looking at their ability to wage war,

A business will now look at Russia as a high risk investment.

Having all flights from and to Russia banned is not going to be helping them.

How would the US, UK governments be if they suddenly had all flights banned.

no one from their countries able to go n holiday, carry out business trips.

Would the people realistically vote for the party that got them into this situation?
(yes I appreciate Russia is a dictatorship).

It is pretty much being removed from the semiconductor supply chain.

that alone would cripple a number of technical countries.

katiesmuff · Accepted Answer

I think that if very quickly the Russian population dethroned the current administration and form a more world friendly government Russia could regain some acceptance around the world.
However if things continue to go as is Russia loses no matter of the end results in the Ukraine. I think Russia will permanently lose business from around the world and become isolated with the handful of friends China, North Korea and a few other dictator countries. Being banned from the worlds banks will cripple their economy in short order and new sources for oil will be found to leave Russia using their oil for swimming pools.
It's such a shame as most of the general population of Russia are kind people who just want to live their lives, yet have not stood up to down this insane dictator.

Ninania · Accepted Answer

Hurting them of course! Just see what WW2 did for Germany. This might not become a world war, but it's already spreading outrage and resistance around the world.

ohshee · Answer

That's up to Putin. By doing this Putin has isolated Russia and has put Russia and Russia's people in a major bind here's the crazy part. Putin is totally embarrassed that he has failed he could lose his presidency because of this people will vote him out of office which they should do anyway but the man is still in charge at the moment old takes for him is for him to go through a mental breakdown and say fuck the world and shoot off a nuclear weapon and that changes everything what's somebody sends one missile everybody's going to send missiles and we will all be destroyed we will all die and if you didn't die you would pray to God that you would die just because of the burns from radiation

MuddyMole · Answer

Best case scenario is that one way or another, Putin gets booted out of office in the very near future, the war ends, and sanctions against Russia are dropped before they cause too much harm to average Russians. That's also the *only* scenario that would help most Russians in the long term.

Worst case scenario is obviously nuclear apocalypse, but thankfully that's very unlikely.

The seemingly most likely scenario is that Russia wins the war, but spends the next 5-10 years fighting an asymmetrical war with resistance fighters, sanctions remain in place and cause average Russians to lose their entire life savings, and Russia becomes a pariah state like North Korea.

ShadezMcgee · Answer

Hurt them for sure.

Already there are anti-Russian messages being sent because of Putin's decision to declare war on Ukraine and move in to seize it. Many of these people in Russia don't support the decision and many have been arrested for protesting and asking Putin to stop.

Should Russia win or lose this engagement it will be the pariah of all countries for decades to come. The real victims of Russia will be those that never wanted this and will be hit with the effect of sanctions and living difficulties to go with prejudice just because of their nationality.

Then comes a matter of credibility and undermining for the potential new leader of Russia once Putin is gone. Rather than looking at the actions of one man. Everyone is going to associate them as a whole because of his decisions.

Slartybartfast · Answer

Their economy is in freefall, ruble is almost worthless. Companies are abandoning assets ,(Exxon left $4 billion worth of assets in Russia, just walked away)
No company will locate there until Putin is gone and a real stable democracy takes hold. It's sad what Putin has done to Russia.

notwoke · Answer

Putin is pretty screwed now. He was banking on Ukraine surrendering easily. If he keeps destroying the country he will be hated forever and lose the support of the world and even the Russian people. If he backs out now he looks lame and weak. It was a huge miscalculation and he has no way out. Additionally, multiple European countries have already announced new military spending to counter the threat of Russia

MarkRet · Answer

It will hurt them long term. Russia will now have the reputation Germany still has to cope with: being remembered as aggressive murderous monsters. Russia's economy is destroyed, and for certain Russian families, their military sons and daughters are coming home in body bags.

BCA6010 · Answer

The only real "benefit" for Russia at this point is that it is strengthening their previously lukewarm ties with China, and by that I really mean it is making them more dependent on China. Virtually the entire rest of the world (including the Taliban) are at least verbally condemning the Russian government, which is at best a net zero gain for them.

ArrowheadSW · Answer

Only hurting. They are now further alienated from the rest of the world. Even if they backed out now, the repercussions would last for a long time. I admire the Russian people though, for taking to their streets in protest in spite of the threat of arrest.

baldsubhuman · Answer

If they win they will win long term because they will have total monopoly on the oils in Europe. But this will take time to show because of huge sanctions and other restrictions which might take many years before they get removed

invalid1 · Answer

They are hurting them... But sanctions will just give Putin more popularity, just like what happened with Iran.

The west is used to demonize and target populations in political conflicts. as a way to turn non democratic nations against their leaders. as a result it gives autocrats more support, we saw this in Iran, north korea, Syria you name it.

msc545 · Answer

In the long-term, I think it hurts the Russians because World opinion is so against them at this point and probably will continue to be so and even worse when the actual results of the war against Ukraine become apparent to everyone. There are going to be a lot of injured and dead people and the Russians will be held responsible for virtually every one of them.

888theGreat · Answer

I think it might help Russia long term but Putin will be punished a long time and it really hurts now. Their economy could still collapse. I don't think it will totally. If it did , he is going to blame the west and he could use Nukes , not impossible. When you have nothing else to lose you lose it.

Agape93 · Answer

Hurting. Their economy will take years to recover at this rate, and their reputation will take longer than that. I mean right now the ruble is worth about the same as my pocket change right now, about a nickle.

gangster123 · Answer

It won’t help from long term perspective. They will lose their economy. Well they have to depend more on China, india and few other nations only for the trade..

Anonymous · Answer

I mean... Russia is desperate so they have nothing to lose. Their gas and oil export is threatened by Americans who became independent on oil supply and gas. America is selling oil and gas more than any country now. and America is trying to enter into EU market. I mean.. Russia don't have anything except oil and gas. And Ukraine has a lot of oil and gas pipeline and they make money from it. So, Russia is desperate to gain market share. It's all natural resources war.

HighValue · Answer

It depends on the outcome. If they completely take over Ukraine it will help Russia, but if they stop it will hurt them. If they take over Ukraine they will have much more useful farmland and even more energy access.

Anonymous · Answer

Putin has shot himself (and the Russian people) in the foot. He is hated by the entire world now.

And the Russian people, who have all grown used to being normal, respected international citizens, realize that they are suddenly the most hated people in the world, so they will certainly hate Putin as well.

It's a bad deal for everyone involved, and all fingers point to Putin as the biggest piece of human shit since Hitler.

jshm2 · Answer

Helping.  Russia is in a stronger position than the West. Hence why the whole West has had to band together to put it under sanctions - and Russia is still there!

Still-alive · Answer

Hurting them... big time! i would hope this will lead to a regime change within Russia but that might be too much to ask for

BipBipLeddus · Answer

Russia has nothing but free time and tanks. This hurts them as much as a flea bite.

Danny_dan92 · Answer

They’re using and losing resources so ultimately from a tactical and military standpoint they are taking a loss to some extent. But given their size and capabilities is much more than that of Ukraine it’s just a scratch really

genericname85 · Answer

I don't think Russian people want this war. The people of a country rarely ever really want a war generally, cause they're the ones that are gonna die in it. The leaders are who want the war. Cause nothing happens to them. It makes them gain power.

Wade12345 · Answer

This is going to hurt Russia both middle and long-term. Both russian leaders and average people are going t suffer because of the sanctions.

artstatues · Answer

Definitely hurting their economy, relations with other countries around the world Plus the casualties they suffer

AndrésC64 · Answer

Hurting. It's just uniting the rest of the world against them.

OddBeMe · Answer

Ruble hit 1 penny the other day. So it’s hurting all Russians no matter what. If they were smart they’d rise up against their dictator. But Putin will issue another anti-homo bill and they’ll all go crazy for him.

driven159 · Answer

Russia is done their economy is going to take a hit like no other has the whole world, but China is against them they have made a grave mistake and they will pay for that in years to come this should be a clue for China not to invade other countries

DWornock · Answer

It is not a war, it is a minor police action to protect Russians from a murdering tyrant that the lying West claims is a war.

Iron_Man · Answer

It’s not the Russian people its Gladimir putin he is the problem and it’s hurting him

IsoUser · Answer

The Russians essentially tried to do what the Nazi's did during WWII during Blitzkrieg which was essentially steamrolling country after country only on President Putin's Disgrace it has wound up in an Epic Failure to his Disgrace!

exitseven · Answer

It will definitely hurt Russia. It will hurt their economy and destroy any political capital they had among the world community.

Kelsey07 · Answer

im not an expert but i dont really think it will hurt them, the rest of the world seems to be letting them do what they please

Anonymous · Answer

No one except Putin and his henchmen benefit from this war. All the others either suffer from economical damages or get killed in action.

TheMajesticKing777 · Answer

Hurting, economically

Anonymous · Answer

It will hurt. They will take a severe economic hit and I think you’ll see a newfound commitment to NATO and increased defense spending in the region.

befuddle · Answer

It hurts the globalists, it helps independent nations.

boobliker · Answer

Yes hurting Russia and sorry to say it's people too

Anonymous · Answer

The question is if Russia called of the attack right now and left Ukraine how long would the sanctions continue? Putin might have set his country on a path for present and future ruin.

Dargil · Answer

Hurting them badly. Republicans will resume fracking, finish the pipelines and bankrupt them.

ragooo8 · Answer

They've capture all major Russian population centres. They've won.

Twalli · Answer

The Russians are mostly against it. The Russian leadership probably won't see huge changes however it shapes out.

GlassTop · Answer

They gain Ukraine for some sanctions. I think it’s worth the sacrifice.

Yumix · Answer

It will hurt them a lot in the long run even if they will manage to beat them in a war

MJtheCoach · Answer

Why did Russia attack Ukraine. It won’t be without a cause:

007kingifrit · Answer

win or lose it will be bad for the russians no matter what

EnglishEuropean · Answer

That's hard to predict. We can be certain it will hurt them in the short term.

Ferhat2354 · Answer

Why was my comment removed? Why ask the opinion of others if you can't tolerate the answer?

Nightmarerh · Answer

Ukraine should’ve kept there nuclears on hand.

michael1469 · Answer

Hurting russians long term. They should be removed from the UN security counsel.

Anonymous · Answer

Depends on how everyone reacts and how far into the future you look.

robocop666 · Answer

they dont have US weapons on their border but the economy will suffer.

Skyros · Answer

It’s hurting them and everyone in Ukraine. It’s impacting other surrounding countries as well.

Anonymous · Answer

I think it's mostly hurting the Russians and damaging Putin's reputation.

honeynut-scenarios · Answer

Russia will pay for this for a very long time.

Anonymous · Answer

Helping since the US will NOT be able to have a base in Ukraine (like most mother countries they have bases in)

Staximus · Answer

Putin is going to go down in history as an asswipe

Pterodon · Answer

Hurting

supercutebutt · Answer

Russia is toast.

rabbitzzz · Answer

Hurting everyone.

Wise4myage · Answer

Definitely hurting.

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