Peace through strength or diplomacy?

[Pterodon]

Strength like Trump

Diplomacy like Obama/Biden

A total of 19 votes were cast: 3 girls and 16 guys. See detailed results

[Varanus]

Diplomacy. There's no greater way to defeat an enemy than to make them a friend.

Also the orange goblin was the exact opposite of strength. His pathetic posturing was completely transparent, and he made us look weak and stupid to the rest of the world. The only reason he was scary was that he was unhinged and unpredictable.

[Pterodon]

It ain’t working is it

[Anonymous]

Diplomacy is the only answer, and you would never get that with sore loser Trump.

[Pterodon]

It ain’t working is it

[TheBigWhistle]

Strength like Trump. Feared on the world stage. They were petrified of what he might do. Don't mess with him. Don't even make jokes about him. Don't even look at him directly. He might toss a nuke at you. No one messes or even dares to make fun of Trump on the world stage. Strength.

[Pterodon]

We had peace under Trump. Putin invaded Ukraine twice under biden

[TheBigWhistle]

60 UJ. S. soldiers died in combat in Afghanistan during Trump's presidency. Go tell their parents we had peace under Trump. Let me know what they say. Also, Biden wasn't President in 2014.

"Peace" because Putin was happy to watch Trump try to destroy the unity of NATO from within. Fuck off with your mindless propaganda bullshit.

[TheBigWhistle]

60 U. S. soldiers died under Trump. 60. Peace!

[Pterodon]

You don’t have peace now do you

[TheBigWhistle]

Biden got us out of Afghanistan. Zero soldiers are being killed there now. We're not fighting a war right now unless you have access to classified info I don't. If you're going to claim Ukraine means there isn't peace and that's Biden's fault, then I guess Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and others means we didn't have peace under Trump either. Any way you slice it, your bullshit just doesn't hold up.

[Pterodon]

Yeah it does.

[Pterodon]

Your president is a weakling

[Pterodon]

The exit from Afghanistan was a total disaster and made us the laughing stock to our enemies. He left Americans and allies behind in spite of him giving his word he wouldn’t. His handling of Afghanistan is directly related to Putin invading Ukraine

[Pterodon]

His energy policy is also directly related to Putin in Afghanistan. Putin is using oil as a weapon

[TheBigWhistle]

Has anyone ever told you when people give you a detailed argument, responding with "No, you're wrong" as you always seem to do is not terribly convincing.

If Putin was using oil as a weapon, it would mean we couldn't implement sanctions and punish them cause we need their oil. Instead we've cracked down further on Russia and we've stopped using Russian oil completely. So that's a pretty idiotic argument to even try to make because the actions already taken directly refute the inference you are trying to make. But in order to make a good argument, one has to have common sense and at least some basic level of intelligence. Neither of which appear to be particular strengths for you.

It's really pointless having this conversation. You know nothing. You deny every documented fact with "That's not true". You live in a propaganda filled echo chamber and no matter what, you're just going to keep churning out these idiotic questions day after day. So, have fun.

[Pterodon]

We shouldn’t have been importing any oil from Russia

[TheBigWhistle]

You should have told that to Trump. He imported plenty. If you think we just started importing from Russia under Biden, you're even more clueless than I already think you are.

www.eia.gov/.../LeafHandler.ashx

[Pterodon]

We were exporting under Trump

[TheBigWhistle]

You said we shouldn't have been importing oil from Russia. I just showed you a U. S. government website that says we were importing as much oil from Russia under Trump as we were under Biden. And you're trying to deny that? After I literally linked the U. S. government website that proves it?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

[exitseven]

Definitely strength. Your adversaries will only respect you if you can annihilate them with the push of a button.

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO😎

[Sargentcaptain]

Diplomacy requires you to have some sort of a leverage, usually economic, otherwise it just doesn't work. I prefer things that work.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Both. It totally depends who you dealing with. With some governments diplomacy is the best option to avoid war, while with others aggression is the best option to avoid war.

[Anonymous]

Strength like Xi Jin Ping. Better than dumb Americans like you.

[JustiReno]

You can take the Kung Flu back withcha!

[SaoirseS]

Diplomacy, but with strength for deterrence.

[SaoirseS]

Nope.

[SaoirseS]

This went south in a hurry.