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Since when is having morals and values considered "Old School", "Old Fashioned" or "Outdated"? (Page 2)
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The value of morals keep changing , once what your elders considered as morals might have been considered as old school.
The thing is people are just more vocal now than earlier.
You might also felt regarding the outdated morals which were very prominent to your ancestors and you might have rebeled but didn't throw it at there face but grieved inside.
People do anything in name of freedom and we can only accept it.
That his how it has been through generations.
Take example of premarital sex, livin , homosexuality even Divorces even if there was abuse one was expected in the marriage.
Now the morals changed for that and has been taken in consideration and are let to live free at least in some countries.
Take for example of beastality and incest in most countries it wrong and against moral values but strangely in some countries it's allowed.
Its just that what each one wants.
It's easier for their- now feeble- minds to just generalize and "cancel" some one or some group, rather than actually talk/discuss/be courteous/etc. The rest is justification for their ill-gotten thoughts and actions.
Very true
I remember reading a question here a while ago. The asker asked if we still need to say please and thank you? 😕
What's so difficult about having good manners or being grateful🤷🏼♀️smh🙄
I couldn't agree more with you.
Its messed up. Best thing to do is to ignore those who say that because such people don't change.
But there are people who understand you and respect you keep that in mind.
You are not alone.
Thanks... But I worry about the future generations and what kind of society my grandchild and great nieces/nephews will be growing up in
@Jaykrisss with this mentality, you are one of the people in this new generation who can make a change...
Ever since the LGBT lobby, pretending it is feminist, paid the mass media to declare it so.
Transgenders, who dusguise themselves as 'LGB', cannot gave children, so they go spending their money on declaring that genderediving is - outdated.
Pay no attention, just avoid LGBTs.
We need a 'binary gendered' support groups and system - and genderness demeaning to be declared a national, or global, safety concern and criminalised.
They are doi g somethi g of that kind in Australia by their 'religious freedoms bill', since no religion accepts transgenders/genitally amputated totitarians (most are)
It’s a compliment to be a beautiful sunflower in a field full of daisies.
👍👍😊
Morals are fluid and are only based on the what the individual believes what is moral or not. "Old school" isn't better or worse, it's just a mind set. Modern takes are not better or worse, it is just a mind set as well. Neither side should be ripping on the other for those beliefs. Saying you have morals and a more modern approach doesn't is just elitism in the end, but that holds true the other way around too.
I'm sorry, I would have to disagree... Murder, crime would be immoral would it not? Thinking nudity should be legal, thus exposing young children to rapists and pedophiles would be immoral would it not? Our actions/behaviors don't just affect us and our lives, they affect the future of society and future generations, The best way to lead is by example
Yeah, but that doesn't make you old fashioned in the context you were going for. Again morality is whatever it may be to the individual. For example, someone may be ok with stealing from innocents but not from others in their line of work "honor among thieves" or whatever. Some might be perfectly fine with murder, but never of children. Those are their morals.
To you and I, yes, we would agree they are wrong in all those cases, but those are our morals at play.
Again disagree, murder is a crime and illegal, so it's not just what you or I think... Noone that would murder another, unless in self defense can be said to have morals...
"Again disagree, murder is a crime and illegal, so it's not just what you or I think... Noone that would murder another, unless in self defense can be said to have morals... "
You kinda just proved my point. Some people think the death penalty is ok to punish others. It isn't self defense in that case so does that make it ok?
You seem to be ok with murder when done in self defense.
Some are ok with as a means to an end. Perhaps in the case of religious extremism for example.
Some are ok with assisted suicide (basically ethical murder) to help those in extreme medical suffering.
Then you have some who believe murder is NEVER ok and look down on all those other cases. That is morality at play in every case.
We'll just have to disagree here... To compare someone defending themselves or their loved one to someone that would murder in cold blood for no other reason than a "means to an end" is completely ludicrous... And to compare the death penalty of a violent criminal/murderer or serial killer or rapist the same as violent criminals that will kill people for their tennis shoes or money... It's exactly that thinking that's what's wrong with society...
Well now Ms. Pandora, what brought this on? LOL Everyone has a "moral code" of some kind, don't they? The debate is over how worthwhile you think it is, and do you agree with it, and how does yours vary? I think certain behavioral codes are outdated, or old-fashioned if you will. I also might not agree with your values, but I'll respect them as long as they don't impose themselves on me. :)
But see, it's not just about you or me, what's considered acceptable changes society, changes the world we live in and I worry about what kind of society my grandchild and great nieces and nephews will be living in..
People fail to get, our actions and behaviors don't just affect us, they can affect future generations
I agree with you that some changes are worrisome, but that's been true of every generation going forward. Some are good, some are bad, as judged by every parent going forward. That's when parents have to teach kids what they believe is right, and give them the capacity to withstand societal pressures when they find them to be wrong.
When kids are young, we teach them "what" to think more than "how" to think. As they get older, we should shift more into the "how and why" than "what". If you don't do that, you get sheep (Trumpanzees being my favorite current example). Even though I too see some ridiculous "value" changes in American culture, and yes they are worrisome, we have to teach kids to rise above them and think for themselves.
The best way to lead is by example
Sort of darlin' --- the best way to lead is by a GOOD example, and hope the sheep are smart enough to follow it and not someone else's BAD example!
But with declining morals and values and what's socially acceptable there's less and less good examples and more bad examples... Kids don't just go by what they're told, they go by what they "see"...
Good luck controlling media, darling.
In an age where solidarity is no longer a requirement and social interaction has become optional, treating others with respect is no longer seen as valuable. Once we need to rely on eachother again, this will become more important again. This might be closer than we'd like, because one of those scenarios is war.
It would appear you & me were brought up an have similar values. I don't think morals and values are old fashioned nor outdated. .
Me neither... Sad state the world will become if morals and values and decency become outdated
People who don’t have the strength to use them mock others who do, out of their own weakness.
Well said, so true!!
I remember hanging out with an ex Co worker who was trying to convince me to go with him to the job on a Saturday where a few other coworkers were working to hang out, and I wouldn't because we weren't supposed to be there if we weren't working and those that were were supposed to be working not hanging out, and I wasn't going to lose my job over something like that, and he got mad and was calling me a goody two shoes and a princess, etc..🙄
“Yup.” Would have been my reply. 😁
🤣🤣
Pretty much, an employed goody two shoes, not a fired asshat🤣
🤣 Damn straight!!
It's the appeal to novelty fallacy.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GoodIsOldFashioned
I’m old school , old fashioned , and traditional. I will never date in this current dating climate.
Yeah that's one reason stayed single since my husband passed 8 1/2 years ago
7 years here it’s about sex , 50/50, playing games, etc
Right!!
I’m tired of it
I really haven't tried to date seriously.. But it does sadden me too see the way things have become, and people destroy dating/relationships/marriage & families
Yes why I don’t care for dating and just remain single because trying to find someone traditional nowadays it’s a needle in a hay stack. I’m fine being single - yet I get asked why am I still single
Same here and due to my beliefs it’s extremely hard finding someone who shares the same beliefs as me
I hear yah sis
They are 'old school' or 'outdated' for those that don't have high morals or standards
Right!
Because having a high body count is now considered far more important.
That's just messed up
For real.
@AlwaysBelieving right!
Society has been in a downward spiral for a long while now and it's only getting worse because the newer generation has no appreciation whatsoever for traditional values. As long as degeneracy, immorality, and the disrespect of values continues, the world will never improve.
I get called "old fashioned" all the time due to the classic way I dress and for the way I live my life. Not that I care, I won't be bullied into being like everyone else.
Only this generation would find that "old school" lmao
Right🙄 lolol
Whoever says M&V are old fashioned, they haven't been brought up properly. M&V ain't a trend which is expected to "die down" over time. It is the crux of humanity.
Exactly
Depends whose values and morals you are upholding and when.
1800's America it was moral to buy, sell and beat Black slaves. You were seen to have good Christian values if you beat your wife and kids to obedience.
2000's America it is still seen as moral to pay a woman less than a man. Even if doing the same work. She holds little value.
I think it started to erode years ago, when we no longer kept score, no one loses.
Then it was that someone screwed up it wasn't their fault, and they weren't responsible for their actions.
It was down hilll after that.