Since when is having morals and values considered "Old School", "Old Fashioned" or "Outdated"?

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It seems that these days people attack decent people instead of the indecent people, and try to insult by calling them old fashioned, old school, or Outdated. But that's exactly what's wrong with society, having morals and values and decency should never be considered outdated.

Lionman95 · Accepted Answer

Since the change of society. The modern dating culture is concentrated on using your youth to get the most experiences. Like in any other part of life such as culture, nature/outdoor/travelling dating and relationships have also adjusted to prefer short pleasure over long-term happiness.
The rate of marriages being divorced and long-term relationship ending abruptly is high and probably also raising because people have come to terms with changing their partners as soon as problems arise that seem to attack fundamental questions of their relationship.
It changed the moment people got excess to many options quickly. So that when I can´t agree with my partner now that people have many other options either for hook-ups/friends with benefits or open relationships the necessarity to really solve a problem with your partner and go through crisis together is low.
Especially modern western culture has been sexualized ever since the 1970s since the upcoming of the internet, apps and easy excess to open it even deepened its influence of society.
That way everybody who chooses the opposite way is "oldschool" because he or she tries to get a partner by getting to know character first and prefers to be monogamous.

TonyMetal___86 · Accepted Answer

These type of people are the reason why our world is becoming a darker corrupted place...

Under the name of freedom they jusy wanna ruin everything and send humans back to the stone ages and maybe earlier, the times when we had resembled the animals in like 95%...

When you want to ruin a social structure based on morals, values and disciplines than you don't have the right to nag or cry or beg later for help or becoming depressed on why our world had became ruthless and destructive liie that...

You eat from what you harvest and you harvest from what you plant...

Respect, emotions, feelings, consciousness.. etc are the things that makes us special and humans, the moment you lose them, than you're just a thing without any importance or value...

I think therefore i am, people these days lack some brain capacity and are driven only by sexual instincts and lust desires...

The others are like just go with flow...

If you cannot make a positive impact in this world than do not attack the others who are able to do it...

OpenClose · Answer

Well morals themselves aren't old-fashioned or outdated. But a lot of people hold up old-fashioned or outdated ideas as "having morals", so that's usually where the problem is.

Like let's say you save yourself for marriage for moral reasons. Good for you. If that's how you feel, stick to your guns. Brush off the haters.

But then if you start saying that women who have premarital sex are immoral, then you are applying outdated morals, because we've known for a long time that there's nothing inherently immoral about sex outside of marriage. It was just an old law put in place so people could keep track of whose children were whose, and assign parental responsibility accordingly.

But with contraception, birth identification, and at worst genetic identification, controlling a woman's sexuality in this way is no longer necessary.

So while the morals that you keep for yourself are fine, it's a problem if you are going to judge others based on morals that are no longer necessary. And I feel like a lot of people shoot themselves in the foot when they judge others for outdated morals, and start to form this narrative in their head that "therefore men like immoral women" or vice versa.

NathanDavis · Answer

morals and values, decency... all of them are quite subjective, that's the issue here

there were times in which it was seen as immoral for white people to get involved with black people... black people were considered not moral, not decent, not even citizens and all kinds of stupid ass ideals that were just plain wrong

however... this was still the set of values and morals accepted by the vast majority of the white people

I am sure you do not agree with these morals, values and ideas of decency, right? and just because a lot of older people would have said to you "but this is what normal is, this what we all did, this is what we all believed to be right so is not wrong and you have to do it too because that's what our morals and value dictate and you just have to follow it"

I am willing to bet all my G@G points that you're not a racist person yourself... are you?
and you would absolutely reject their, (subjective) sets of morals and values because they are quite different from yours... as simple as that, we're all different, therefore... things can be quite subjective

KuroSire · Answer

"Out with the old, in with the new" mentality. It doesn't matter that the new is garbage, toxic, and will fall apart faster than the old reliable stuff. All that matters is staying relevant, trendy, and fashionable. You have to be "progressive", and progress is trading the old whatever for the newfangled whosawhatsit.
Also, we have been subjected to almost 60 years of ideological subversion, which has the primary goal of demoralizing entire populations to make them disheartened, confused, insecure, hedonistic, and close-minded. They can't tell up from down, man from woman, or right from wrong.
I think it was largely successful as modern society is a chaotic mess of people asserting nonsense and making up rules with everyone being to afraid to speak up out of fear that holding someone accoubtable means they to can be held accountable, and they "can't even".
So, that is why being moral and having values is considered "old fashioned". Because, in our post modern, subverted, nuhilistic culture, it truly is a relic of the past.

Jaximus-Lion · Answer

It's alright! Weak minded never sees their selves as the problem so they blame the ones that are better than them. I have these situations about 3-5 time a week and i always answer with: look where I am at! Now look where you at. I have met so many people that tell me that i am old fashioned and i always tell them that morals and decency never gets old, plus the old fashion is way better than now days whatever fashion 🤷‍♂️. You know the saying ( nice guys finish last) 🤣, one of the dumbest things i have ever heared too

dorksided1 · Answer

Things have gotten so crazy and backwards these days. Everything is over the top these days, extreme. The same people saying they would harm a 35 year old male teacher with a 14 year old girl are the same ones when its the other way around praising it? The same people wanting for a kind woman with morals and values also put in their profile or continue on with, for a friends with benefits situation? Or females who put looking for a good man, with money, nice car, no kids, (meanwhile she has 4) with a huge weenie. Its insanity, the hypocrisy of our society. I am traditional and will continue on my way, people comments do not bother me at the end of the day I worked hard for my home, car, the things I have, by old school hard work--by myself without anyones help,. When I go on a date it is to actually court, I am not a friends with benefits or hook up, so anyones negative opinion of the way I am is their problem

HighlyVolatile · Answer

I don't think young people lacking much in the ways of responsibilities over households and families and communities understand the value of favoring something that is weighted towards producing long-term benefits over the short-term.

It's like health. Young people can get away with eating loads of junk food. They don't see anything wrong with drinking 4 cans of soda every day and eating heavily-processed foods. Keep doing that until 30s, 40s, and they'll start to see what's wrong with it.

The problem these days as I see it is that they are learning most of these lessons too late in life and in the hardest ways possible.

Msputiton · Answer

Morals isn't old-fashioned.
The snobbish judgmental ways people act towards people for acting differently is old fashioned.

They judge our generation for our sexuality as if the 70s wasn't about sex and drugs.

Young people gonna be young.

Past generations wanna pretend like they didn't have a young rebellious period to experiment and explore themselves.

Everyone does. Even if the exploration wasn't very wild we all go through it to learn ourselves or have fun while we young and free.

And no i don't go out having sex or exposing myself.

I just respect people's right to do so if they want.

ohshee · Answer

Haha. For real I didn't have the best up bring . And I'm glad because one day I had to ask myself who do you want to be.. in this world its only your choice.

You can blame your parents you can and 1000 influencers but the bottom line is your choice is your choice we get to choose who we want to be by the things we say into and it's only our choice nobody else's so who you are in this world it's who you want to be and if you do not have morals values and ethics far as I'm concerned you know one because that means you're not living life do not conscious you have no respect pour yourself are others old school has nothing to do with it this is called today's School if you want a life you need to have them

Emiliamazing · Answer

There’s some really good points I’ve been made here about the changing views of our world. What people value has changed, how women and men interact has changed. Even when my husband and I were dating, he always opened the door for me even though I told him he was being silly. I think if you like this type of behavior and interaction between individuals, you must promote or at least allow it.
The change has to be made on an individual level. Blanket change over a generation doesn’t really happen, it starts with an individual. We are trying to teach our children to be kind to one another, regardless of gender or orientation.
I say keep on the path you enjoy, I certainly enjoy being treated with chivalry :-)

idkwhatsreal · Answer

It happened when parents stopped disciplining their kids and letting them run around thinking everything that came in their was right and good. And here’s a participation trophy for showing up somehow it became that just could do no wrong and we’re actually rewarded for being little assholes.

Divinegirl · Answer

I think it may be more about the culture you live in and the values it holds. You also have to think about how easily weak minded people are influenced by the media to be indecent. Then there's the herd mentality were they insult you if you're not like them.

ChiTown33 · Answer

Since Kanye West and Kim Kardashian are worth 1.6 billion. Since the " cash me outside girl gained fame. Since that black girl ( don't remember her name) who doesn't identify as being black and doesn't like black people gained her 15 minutes of fame.
Society today gives these people attention. And while I'm not trying to call it a generational thing. This latest generation is far connected media platform wise than anyone before it. Before it something couldn't be shared with the world in a matter of minutes.

AlwaysBelieving · Answer

Who knows. All I know is that I respect women and I’m not into hookup culture / ONS / friends with benefits. Sure, I’ll glance at women and that’s just about it. To my knowledge I have never “hit on a woman” nor cat called. I have gotten a few “braindusters” when in college from a friend saying “dude, she was checking you out!”

To me, an individual you’re attracted to is still a person and not just a piece of meat. If a gal says to me “I’m not interested”, to means that she’s not interested. I move on. If she thinks I’m playing games, that’s on her. I have no time for that.

Derekk · Answer

The problem with "old fashioned morals" is that they frequently hide some pretty nasty prejudicial junk that has no business in 21st century society. And in the odd case where they don't, the people that hold them spend an awful lot of time openly and loudly ranking lifestyles within hierarchies for my liking. Dressing a certain way or conducting your relationships in a specific way doesn't make you a better or more ethical person.

You'd have to be more specific about what old fashioned morals you think should be re-incorporated.

BCRanger10 · Answer

I honestly don't know. I've been asking here for years why the fact that it's x-current-year should have anything significant to do with what someone believes or does. Sure, in matters of style, convenience, or technology, someone could present reasonable cases. As for morals and values? I've never gotten a satisfactory answer on that.

Tiptoetamm · Answer

I have no idea I guess I didn't get that memo because I treat people the way I want to be treated. I'm not perfect so I mess up every now and then. I believe that morale and values are very important

KatherineJ · Answer

There have always been people who like to push the boundaries. Sadly, people have been brow beaten to not say anything. The results are definitely showing in society now.

AndrewMG · Answer

I might joke about things and take the piss out of experiences I've had but one value I always hold is that if you're confronted with an issue then your first reaction should be approach it from a compassionate point of view rather than a condemnation point of view, you can always change your opinion once you know the facts, but make sure your starting point is from a good place. I think recently with social media, talent shows etc there has been a change where the natural starting point is condemnation/anger etc even with out gaining the full facts.

CrazyGirl2 · Answer

Since about 5 minutes ago! It truly seems like is are a HIGHLY vocal minority (especially on twitter) who are hell bent on destroying or reversing anything that existed more than 2 years ago!

exitseven · Answer

I think it really went downhill after social media became so popular. Kids are all in daycare and are not really supervised and they spend their time on social media where they can access pretty much everything.

Aakash_Hangargi · Answer

The value of morals keep changing , once what your elders considered as morals might have been considered as old school.

The thing is people are just more vocal now than earlier.

You might also felt regarding the outdated morals which were very prominent to your ancestors and you might have rebeled but didn't throw it at there face but grieved inside.

People do anything in name of freedom and we can only accept it.

That his how it has been through generations.

Take example of premarital sex, livin , homosexuality even Divorces even if there was abuse one was expected in the marriage.

Now the morals changed for that and has been taken in consideration and are let to live free at least in some countries.

Take for example of beastality and incest in most countries it wrong and against moral values but strangely in some countries it's allowed.

Its just that what each one wants.

Massageman · Answer

It's easier for their- now feeble- minds to just generalize and "cancel" some one or some group, rather than actually talk/discuss/be courteous/etc. The rest is justification for their ill-gotten thoughts and actions.

sage2021 · Answer

I remember reading a question here a while ago. The asker asked if we still need to say please and thank you? 😕

loveslongnails · Answer

Well now Ms. Pandora, what brought this on? LOL Everyone has a "moral code" of some kind, don't they? The debate is over how worthwhile you think it is, and do you agree with it, and how does yours vary? I think certain behavioral codes are outdated, or old-fashioned if you will. I also might not agree with your values, but I'll respect them as long as they don't impose themselves on me. :)

Jaykrisss · Answer

I couldn't agree more with you.
Its messed up. Best thing to do is to ignore those who say that because such people don't change.
But there are people who understand you and respect you keep that in mind.
You are not alone.

Prg11 · Answer

Ever since the LGBT lobby, pretending it is feminist, paid the mass media to declare it so.
Transgenders, who dusguise themselves as 'LGB', cannot gave children, so they go spending their money on declaring that genderediving is - outdated.
Pay no attention, just avoid LGBTs.
We need a 'binary gendered' support groups and system - and genderness demeaning to be declared a national, or global, safety concern and criminalised.
They are doi g somethi g of that kind in Australia by their 'religious freedoms bill', since no religion accepts transgenders/genitally amputated totitarians (most are)

England4eva · Answer

It’s a compliment to be a beautiful sunflower in a field full of daisies.

Ez-Bri-Z · Answer

Morals are fluid and are only based on the what the individual believes what is moral or not. "Old school" isn't better or worse, it's just a mind set. Modern takes are not better or worse, it is just a mind set as well. Neither side should be ripping on the other for those beliefs. Saying you have morals and a more modern approach doesn't is just elitism in the end, but that holds true the other way around too.

TallAnon · Answer

In an age where solidarity is no longer a requirement and social interaction has become optional, treating others with respect is no longer seen as valuable. Once we need to rely on eachother again, this will become more important again. This might be closer than we'd like, because one of those scenarios is war.

douride2 · Answer

It would appear you & me were brought up an have similar values. I don't think morals and values are old fashioned nor outdated. .

dustybiker · Answer

People who don’t have the strength to use them mock others who do, out of their own weakness.

Berethor · Answer

It's the appeal to novelty fallacy.

cth2188 · Answer

I’m old school , old fashioned , and traditional. I will never date in this current dating climate.

Bricealan · Answer

They are 'old school' or 'outdated' for those that don't have high morals or standards

SlothySlob · Answer

Because having a high body count is now considered far more important.

Wraith_Cemetery · Answer

Society has been in a downward spiral for a long while now and it's only getting worse because the newer generation has no appreciation whatsoever for traditional values. As long as degeneracy, immorality, and the disrespect of values continues, the world will never improve.

I get called "old fashioned" all the time due to the classic way I dress and for the way I live my life. Not that I care, I won't be bullied into being like everyone else.

Nagatoro · Answer

Only this generation would find that "old school" lmao

anton_dee · Answer

Whoever says M&V are old fashioned, they haven't been brought up properly. M&V ain't a trend which is expected to "die down" over time. It is the crux of humanity.

jshm2 · Answer

Depends whose values and morals you are upholding and when.

1800's America it was moral to buy, sell and beat Black slaves. You were seen to have good Christian values if you beat your wife and kids to obedience.

2000's America it is still seen as moral to pay a woman less than a man. Even if doing the same work. She holds little value.

Fireguy17 · Answer

I think it started to erode years ago, when we no longer kept score, no one loses.
Then it was that someone screwed up it wasn't their fault, and they weren't responsible for their actions.
It was down hilll after that.

GoodGuyBreakingBad · Answer

I agree to have morals shouldn't be seen as Old Fashion

alice55 · Answer

Since many years, I would say since may 68 (in France it's the date of a big cultural revolution I'm guessing in Western world it should also around this date).

Evilbunnyfoofoo · Answer

Seems it’s been that way for tens of years. I’ve been called old fashioned all my life because I value morals, trust, faithfulness, integrity, honesty etc.

genericname85 · Answer

It's not. Everyone has moral values. People just aren't aware.

TheSpaceGnome · Answer

People usually disagree on the finer points of what is or isn't moral or decent, and cultural standards are, at best, temporary.

Culture only exists when either the local majority agrees with eachother, or the people in charge of them removes their freedoms.

The former is very rare, and the latter is itself morally suspect imho.

TheAfrikan · Answer

They are true sign that you grew up with the right sweet behaving people and they knew how a human being should act.

Aerissa_Jade · Answer

Personally I think being old fashion is a compliment. Even though I would not personally consider myself old fashion.

collie22 · Answer

yeah I've heard that before, i think it's a excuse people use so they feel good about them self's

Waldoe · Answer

"people" have Always rebelled against the wisdom passed down by those that learned the hard way... people always learn the Hard way over and over and over

Xoirwinkan · Answer

I'd go out a LOT MORE if women dressed like the pictured lady. Wow, that's some classy beauty.
A lot of the most degenerate and 'woke' people scream the loudest, and there's also an agenda pushed by a lot of media.

Zolly99999 · Answer

It's not... I have morals and "rules" I live by.. i think everyone should have them !!!

CubaPirate · Answer

Ever since a lack of respect and manners became normal

Andro36 · Answer

What's morals and values to you? Attacking everyone who is different to your standards? Anyways, society is constantly changing. Some thoughts need to be buried in order to have a better society. Decency is about respecting everyone and don't hate or promote hating those who are different

driven159 · Answer

because older people are the only ones to still have them

imfreeze95 · Answer

It’s not it’s just a thing people say to excuse their own poor behavior

nawtee_me · Answer

They do this because for some it is easier to blame others than it is for them to look at themselves as if they might be part of the problem. “If Everyone is looking at who I am pointing the finger at then no one is looking at me.”

princeofromance · Answer

When a person telling you that does not have any morals or values.

humanearth · Answer

I would say about 2001, that's when peoples views majority changed

Offline70 · Answer

My morality wasn't any better when I was young. In fact it was worse, just in different ways. Folks our age sometimes get amnesia in regards to our own youth and how older people looked at us when we were young. I'm not saying that's you, but it's a lot of us.

Heartache0405 · Answer

Pretty sure sexual liberation and feminism had something to do with it

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