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MGTOW and MRA is a reactionary movement to feminism and all the damage that has been done to men as a result of "helping women".
So yes, there will be hate involved by a certain amount of members in these groups.
Yes it can! Both feminism and MRA/MGTOW, along with most "ethnic studies" disciplines are shot through with a heaping healthy dose of postmodernist and/or Marxist bullshit. Anything built on that foundation is bound to be a hot mess.
The problem could be solved by splitting up the genders
How does that solve anything? Its a small minority of people causing problems for the majority. There are plenty like myself who don't hate men just like I'm sure there are plenty on the MRA side who don't hate women.
True but it could be an interesting experiment
You are acting like MGTOW and MRAs have equal numbers, influence and political power compared to feminism.
That’s like comparing a mosquito to an elephant.
It’s feminism that caused all of that. It’s the most divisive “ism” movement ever
*cough* catholicism *cough*
Might be a whole bunch of wars fought in the names of religions that would qualify here.
At least, Catholics don’t divide themselves into mini groups like feminists do
Uh.. yes... yes they do.
Such as?
You could just do a simple Google search for branches of catholicism. I shouldn't need to do that for you.
If you’re trying to make your point to others, pilling back won’t make your argument sound brighter. Just saying
And being too lazy to actually research your claims before you make them doesn't help your case either hun.
Except for the fact that you brought up the example in question
Only as the ism that was worth, YOU brought up that it doesn't divide itself. That's on you, pal.
Which one?
Feminists are actively Misandrist.
MGTOW is reactionary, retreating from the Karens of the world, avoiding, not hating them.
What is MRA?
Men's rights activists
Men have all the "rights" we need already. No activism needed.
Since when has anybody viewed MRAs or MGTOW as anything but toxic?
Equality ( authority ) meant to be the same authority as a man so women would'nt need to listen to men anylonger is'nt an arguable point of sexism. Stop finger pointing only at extreminist as you yourself engages with and follows the herd.
Yes. If you come to the table not wanting to progress at all, you think all activists are assholes.
Yes the same can be said about MRA and MGTOW, just like feminism. But why do you tolerate any of them? Why do you pretend one side is "the bad guy" and the other side isn't? That's just such transparent dishonesty.
No, because in order to be hateful, it needs to have as much oppression as feminism. Since feminism is systemically oppressive, MGTOW and MRAs can’t be oppressive even if they hate women because of the power differential.
aww poor triggered annon
@legalboxers Why are you so threatened when you small minded view is challenged? Are you afraid to actually debate someone? Sad. SMH.
MGTOW isn't being pushed by the mainstream like feminism, so I don't see how it's relevant. Also men's rights very often has nothing to do with women.
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Same lmao
If you're not part of the solution, ... then you're part of the problem :D
No. MRAs do not control the legal and social systems and weaponize them against women - feminists do that, which is why many if not most men refuse to marry, and many men will not date women.
Tye mra isn't screeching about everything being oppressive. They also dont assault randoms., Or get invited to speak at the UN
And the MRA can actually point out injustices, unlike feminists
Well the MRA movement isn't filled with the same amount of toxicity as the feminism community. Feminism is predicated on the notion that there is a patriarchy oppressing women.
There are organisations that focus on mens rights? This is the first I hear.
I looked up MGTOW and it's pretty much the same, just a nerdy bookworm version of feminism. Any sexist and racist groups should just be sent to their own place to brawl each other so they leave us alone
Not MRA, certainly a lot of MGTOW, but what you are looking for is "the black pill".
Yup. I don't support either of them.
It's media BS intended to divide and distract us from the real issues.
Well, yes. Yes it is, both statements are correct.
Omg, let's be bffs 😜😜
Yes, but those movements are retaliation to the hatred inflicted by feminism. So feminism is the source of the hate.
Mgtow just avoid women, they don't hate them.
These people are like monks, who like to go their own way.
@ez-bri-z Nobody cares about MRA's anyway, there all seen as jokes. Shouldn't you be celebrating male suicide? One less rapist, am I right?
Why would I celebrate that?
Catharsis? A shameless pleasure?
I think you need help from your obvious hatred.
Of what, Failed males on the fringes of society? That's Righteous disgust that everybody should embrace.
I agree and its really already there.
Fck Mgtow and Fck Feminism
Yes.
probably.
Absolutely, yeah.
both are toxic