Why do men think they can have a say about abortion?

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Then I have every right to advocate circumcision. It's looks so much nicer, it's cleaner, men last longer. Why don't we make it compulsory then?
Men, if you want to do anything about it, make it easier and free to get contraceptive pills.
Or as one guy had a rant about how everything was invented by men, go and invent artificial womb and deal with the pregnancy yourselves!
I'm so tired of this shit and religious nuts spewing nonsense.
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Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Then I have every right to advocate circumcision. It's looks so much nicer, it's cleaner, men last longer. Why don't we make it compulsory then?

Women have been doing that without men's consent for generations while complaining about Abortion rights. So lets break this down. Men aren't telling you what to do with your bodies. You're making a choice. Freedom of action is not freedom of consequences. You dont want kids? Dont have sex. "It's not possible" and I can assure you that for the vast majority of women under the abrahamic religions it most certainly was. There was a time before abortions were a thing any woman could get, or birth control, and those women used discretion in picking partners.

Amazing I know, they were actually RESPONSIBLE for their actions. We all have the freedom to drink. Some decide to also get behind a wheel after and drive real fast. The consequences for that are traffic violations, tickets, or death. In life you dont get do overs, that's life. You aren't going to self destruct by not screwing a guy you would never want to be with long term. The greatest generation of women and men on average had between 1-3 sexual partners in their whole lives.

Knock on wood, they had some of the longest lasting and stable marriages and family units that ever existed in all of human history. Now look at what has happened in the post Maury "You are NOT the father/are the father" world. In a word, "Disgusting". When I see the women on TV crying all's I see is them crying "But why can't I just kill my babies? Why?" If you're willing to kill your own flesh and blood you're a lousy POS, period, end of story.

Men, if you want to do anything about it, make it easier and free to get contraceptive pills.
I guess but abstinence is better. If you dont want kids tie your damn tubes or take the risk of sex with a fertile man without wanting kids (like a moron).

Or as one guy had a rant about how everything was invented by men, go and invent artificial womb and deal with the pregnancy yourselves!
its not about forcing kids, it's about not MURDERING kids. It's not humane and ethical to abort and idgaf what any of you post modern types want to say about it. It's killing your own blood.

I'm so tired of this shit and religious nuts spewing nonsense.

And I'm tired of knowing I live in a world drenched in the blood of innocent babies because of harpies like you. It's a subject I'd be willing to go to civil war over if need be. Deus Vult! You people are monsters, I cannot view you as having any good inside you left. If a woman gets an botched abortion, that's just karma.

crossdressingrihno · Accepted Answer

Okay let me put it this way here

I've been in a few arguments against pro-abortion people and I've mostly just received the same question about "what if the mother is going to die" or "what if it was rape" or "what if they can't afford it" or "what if it was a teenager" and in which most anti-abortion people I know usually say that those are special circumstances in which it would be allowed except I disagree with the whole can't afford it and teenager thing because those are just people making stupid decisions

As for contraception? Planned Parenthood gives out free condoms if I remember correctly.

As for why we think we have a say in abortion? Because abortion doesn't just affect the woman it affects the child it affects the father and oh hey what's this here? Oh yeah it affects the nation as a whole whether or not is legalized or not and that doesn't just affect you it doesn't just affect the pregnant woman it affects just about everyone in the United States so not just your problem. Also if you want to respond to me that's fine
Just bring out your points one at a time and let me respond to them one at a time and we can be peachy because ultimately for every issue you may have I'm sure I will have an answer for it because we have medical science

Also honestly after all the favoritism I've been seeing online and anti-men propaganda I've seen I'm honestly starting to think that maybe an artificial womb might just be the best bet and we can just like cut natural reproduction out of the picture entirely because I'm sure we can do that

First we need to find a way to create the egg that shouldn't be too hard with a little more work because science is already at a point where we could probably do such a thing
Next we need a proper environment that would produce the necessary nutrients to a fetus and while I'm sure we can make most of the fake uterus out of synthetic materials we will still need some form of organic structure and some form of system to provide for the child before it is born.

Or maybe we can find a way to trick the fetus into thinking it is attached to a uterus wall when it's really not then we just need some form of advanced blood transfusion which shouldn't be too hard combined with some way to produce the required nutrients as well as something akin to yolk for an egg
All in all if I had enough people I could probably do it yeah I probably could

Snsl153 · Accepted Answer

Comparing the dismemberment and destruction of a living human being with the removal of a person's foreskin would have to be one of the more bizarre comparisons I've come across so far in this whole debate.
Anyway, I guess many men think they should have a say in the decision because, after all, they are the father and it does take a man and a woman to create a child. Biological reality is still something we have to contend with, in spite of all the nonsense that some apparently believe about all of this.

serious_miss419 · Accepted Answer

No idea why they think or feel that. They aren’t pregnant for 9 months giving up their body and job and also for the next 15 years it’s all on the female to bare the over all responsibilities. News flash guys, bringing home a paycheck isn’t being a dad.

MCheetah · Answer

Because it takes men's sperm to make a baby.
If men should have no say-so about abortion, then women should shut the fuck up about fatherhood, alimony, and men paying them to raise their child, let alone doing ANYTHING for their child. You can't have it both ways and women can't reproduce asexually.

And you can advocate circumcision all you want. Only an idiot would think that only one gender should be able to voice an opinion about anything, especially using the Anecdotal Fallacy. By your logic, women shouldn't ever speak unless spoken to, since men apparently "run the world."

"Why do women think they should have a say so about society when men build, run, and maintain all of society? If we wanted to, you'd be barefoot and pregnancy in a kitchen and would be slapped into next week if you said something we don't like... Just like it is in Saudi Arabia."

Do you get why your logic is idiotic now, or will you double-down and continue to say stupid things?

And it's ALREADY easy to get contraceptive pills. They can't be free because NOTHING is "free." Not to mention, that would only encourage women to make more bad decisions with even less consequences at stake. And no, abortions should not be free, either. At least, maybe none after the FIRST one. I'd support one free abortion per woman per lifetime; paid for through taxes.

I say all of this as someone who's pro-choice, by the way.

ohshee · Answer

As a man I do have a say not an abortion
But the moment I get into bed with a woman I make a choice to either wear condom or not that's the very first choice
Now if you decide not to wear a condom that's on you that means the one that has the right to do whatever she wants to you had an option you had a say in the whole thing and if you blew it you blew it

You can't come back nine months later and say whatever you want to say is that you can't change your mind you can't change time so as far as I'm concerned you don't have that option anymore

Now as a man and for me and for me only I am pro-life it's just something I believe in

Now and say that I also believe in pro-choice because a woman has the right to do anything she wants to do with her body with her life

And if I was someplace and there was a pregnant woman that wanted to get an abortion can people were giving her shit I would step in front of her to protect her because I also believe in pro-choice if that's what she believes in that's what she believes in and she has that right and I will help her I will protect her

But when she does what she does she's on her own I am still pro-life
But I will never tell anybody what they can and cannot do it there body it's none of my business
Not unless somebody makes it my business and that's why I trying to bully a woman into doing what they want them to do that's bulshit

libsaretards · Answer

Because ANYONE had the right to protect the innocent that cannot protect themselves. Also because the woman CHOSE to have sex. Even in the case of rape (not that rape is right because it is wrong and sick) the child had nothing to do with it. Anyone who is pro-abortion should go ahead and abort themselves? Sound harsh? Well at least you would have the choice. The baby does not. Since pro-abortion women love to argue that abortion is "my body my choice" it must be ok to kill women because the risk of their false accusations affect (for the man) "my body my choice whether or not I go to jail". Sounds ignorant right? So is abortion. How would you like it if someone tried to kill you?

Anonymous · Answer

Because even though a female bears the child we as human being need to discuss these issues together. That’s how society works. If that was the case then we could all exclude people from different parts of the law simply because they didn’t fit the requirements to vote on it. Example, people who have never been in the military, law enforcement, medical etc, couldn’t vote on laws in regards to those professions cause they were never in those professions. Or people who couldn’t vote on laws in regards to children because they don’t have children. If it endangers the woman’s life than I’m ok w it. These are things that should be discussed mainly w both parents as well as the doctor assuming the man is there. Circumcision has nothing to do w ending a child’s life, besides that child is already living its life.

Kenzy009 · Answer

suddenly we are back to only women can get pregnant, what happpend to birthing people? We men have a say because it is our child, we are the father. We also get to advocate for other peoples rights (the unborn child) just like we can advocate for animals rights without being farmers. Men are naturally better political thinkers and leaders of society. Mass-spread abortions have major socital consequenses we have to consider like low brith rates and mental issues

RolandCuthbert · Answer

I think you need to stop pretending that this was something solely orchestrated by men. Obviously a whole lot of women think men should have a say about what women do with their bodies. Soon you will be losing the right to contraception.

You guys have royally screwed yourselves.

normalice · Answer

They believe women are meant to be property. They actually don't care about "life." What they care about is ensuring whores are punished. Raising children in squalor is a suitable punishment for giving it up to someone else. And if you dare try to escape that punishment then jail time is a suitable alternative. As long as your life is ruined for banging someone else maybe then other girls will learn a lesson from your example and only bang the men in power.

boggboss · Answer

Because its under law its not men getting a say its people in power deciding that people have to live the way they decide pretty much this ain't a man vs women issue there are plenty of women also pushing to end abortions I agree its a massive overstep but let's not muddy the water by blaming people its not

SimpleGuy95 · Answer

Because for the simple reason that a woman can´t get pregnant without a guy.
The whole situation of making a decision for or against an abortion wouldn´t come into place if she hadn´t had sex with a guy.
Why are you so much against "religious nuts" if most people do circumcisions for religious reasons? Besides that also circumcision can lead to medical side-effects and can´t be made compulsory therefore.

CallmeTheKnight · Answer

For some, Because women need men to get pregnant.
For some, because they sympathize with women. Especially the victims of rape.

Most of all, although abortion can only the place with a woman's body and so does pregnancy. You can't keep trying to push men out of an issue that involves them as well. When you seek to stand divided, you will eventually be on a hill alone

TheBigGuy9 · Answer

I identify as a woman with a uterus. See, there you go. Now I have a say.
What happened to fighting for women’s rights when a man was swimming against them?

It’s not even about that though from their level. They don’t care about your rights. Look where they put these abortion clinics. Having abortion at the federal level rather than state means more money for them. More money, more influence bought. More influence bought, more Power.

007kingifrit · Answer

pro and anti abortion is split among women pretty much 50/50 so it isn't a "man" thing

that's just you being a sexist.

i'm an atheist with no strong opinons on abortion but 80% of the public supports SOME restriction on abortion

Apple1996 · Answer

Men shouldn't have a opinion on abortion. And I don't know if circumcision is similar to that but cut dicks are less likely to make a woman orgasm so seems like a shit thing to make all men do literally would be worse for women not men 😂

Anonymous · Answer

Not even comparable. Nobody's saying you can't mutilate your genitalia. Do it till your heats content if that is you're thing. We're just not going to condoan you murdering another human being. Because now matter how you dress it up it's still murder, sorry if that's unpalatable for you.

devilish-cutie · Answer

Agreed.

BeMuse · Answer

A fertilized egg is half the man's and half the woman's. You should probably go back to middle school and give it another run because it obviously didn't work the first time for you.

fonduegirl · Answer

Because it's nice to have an opinion when you can't produce a kid yourself. I mean, men have impregnated women and ran — it's that easy — sperm donation, only lively.

NamerOfStars · Answer

Aww, did someone finally get a taste of the equality she's been screaming for and discover that privilege isn't victimhood?

Guy13 · Answer

Not just Men but Women when you are: -As a sex serial killers of a breathing heart, genetic code formed, and living being IN YOUR OWN BODY

jshm2 · Answer

Because men are the democratic majority, kiddo. Also, you're thick as shit if you think abortion is the same as circumcision.

ChrisMaster69 · Answer

More to the point, why should religion have a say in it all.

Dargil · Answer

Because it is about ending a sovereign human life with its own unique DNA and later, heartbeat and brain waves before some ghoul sucks its brain out.

Anonymous · Answer

Because dipshit there is a goddamn life growing inside of you that takes two people to create.

But yeah, it’s the same thing as a piece of skin at the end of your cock.

Fucking idiots man. Fuck... smh.

shortster · Answer

Why do you think that we shouldn't have an opinion on a legal matter? Are we not members of society? Are we incapable of understanding biology? Are we not involved in making the baby?

Zealconsumesme · Answer

You guys don't even have to fight against half of Western society to advocate for mutilating a man's penis to suit your needs

demonics · Answer

This.

Anonymous · Answer

I don't take any opinion on the matter of abortions Circumcision is pointless in dealing with the societal issues, these days I'm an advocate for castration surgery and am looking for a willing docior

OmegaSTC · Answer

You do have a right to an opinion on circumcision. This is America. Freedom of speech encourages speech

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

Abortion is a inhumane act. It simply isn't right to kill off a baby boy or girl in the womb. Period.

northwestripper666 · Answer

What the hell does cutting some skin have to do with coat hangering a baby? Nothing. On the subject, I don't care for your roast beef curtains. MASSACRE your vagina. Cut them lips.

bean2k21 · Answer

On the contrary, I believe that you should have an abortion every 9 months. Use it or lose it.

Anonymous · Answer

Having an opinion is fine but creating public policy that governs a woman’s body is definitely authoritarianism.

cabbages22 · Answer

Even if you say no, men can't have an opinion on it... the biological men that become women will still be able to have an opinion on it. What's our next argument? Non birthing persons can't have a say next? But that's transphobic... full circle.

Anonymous · Answer

Those type of men would never understand what it's like to carry a rapist's child (like a bowling ball) 24 hours for 9 months straight

Anonymous · Answer

Imagine that, men thinking they're entitled to decide what can be inside women's bodies, regardless of what she wants.

Vendela · Answer

Women already get to decide about circumcision... Did you not know that or?

Anonymous · Answer

Why do you get your tubes tied then? So you can be the cum guzzler. I find it funny these woman seem to think that 50% of man DNA he shouldn't have a say

BillyBalls · Answer

Because it is 2022. Men can give birth. If you say otherwise you are Transphobic.

Anonymous · Answer

If a girl wants cock and doesn't want to get pregnant she should learn how to have anal sex. Guys should just start masturbating instead of worrying about all this abortion crap. And women can become lesbians and not have to worry either.

Intothevoid666 · Answer

Ya know even tho I don’t want kids I’m glad for v wade is being overturned cuz most of the women I see are mindlessly entitled about this topic.

Anonymous · Answer

This is why more and more women will end up single... the sheer ignorance!

Anonymous · Answer

They feel they can because it isn’t their body. They have no first hand repercussions.

joeldalton · Answer

Men can get pregnant, that's why.

TheFlak38 · Answer

Because women are too dumb to make right decisions and have the worst instincts possible.

Jamie05rhs · Answer

I identify as a woman now. My pronouns are she/her and I would like to be referred to as Janie.

MrTaboo · Answer

Because its not about women's "rights". It's about not killing babies.

Anonymous · Answer

Anyone should have the right to get rid of a parasite. Here come the offended. Yes. Go look it up. For as long as they are pregnant the relationship they have is parasite-host.

OddBeMe · Answer

Right wingers are obsessed with below the waist politics. It’s creepy.

anylolone · Answer

I think we should legalize female circumcision just to balance things out.

fireforeffect · Answer

You do not have to have a vagina or a Uterus to know that Killing an innocent Human being is wrong, and you have every right to say so!

Anonymous · Answer

Of course you have a right to advocate circumcision. Many people, men and women, do. It’s good to stand in for what you think is right.

jamartheg · Answer

nah Real shit who tf cares enough to talk about this fucking abortions that shit is mad boring

JesseJayNeak · Answer

Because we’re half of the reason why the baby exist in the first place

saffoler · Answer

Men are allowed to have an opinion.

FunkyMonkee · Answer

If it's partially their baby, they can!

Subarugirl · Answer

A better comparison would be mandatory vasectomies

TheReturnOfTheK1ng · Answer

Abortion should be illegal in all cases.

888theGreat · Answer

Men protect children , it is natural

Creampiekarl420 · Answer

So do babies come out of thin air?😂

msc545 · Answer

Child support.

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