Do you think the government should put trained military personnel on all school campuses?

[Anonymous]

WE MUST PROTECT THE KIDS!

Yes

No

A total of 30 votes were cast: 10 girls and 20 guys. See detailed results

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+1 y

They don't gosta be roaming in the fuckin school parking lot ya dumbasses. They just need to be there so the KIDS CAN STAY SAFEEEE!

[FunkyMonkee]

I think they should stop hiring all these psychos to go shoot up schools and such just to scare us into giving up our guns!! After 25 or 30 years, it hasn't worked yet!! I guess there's just too many smart people around to be fooled by the ploys of those stupid people that think we're too stupid to figure this shit out!
Does anyone know when this trend started? We never had this issue when I was going to school!! I don't recall ever hearing about it before the `90's! The worst we ever got was when some asshole dropped a cherry bomb into the toilet next to the cafeteria and it shattered the toilet!!

[OldWorldOrder]

I voted "yes," but it really doesn't matter that much anymore. America is in denial about its de-volution into a 3rd world state, and will never consent to such an overt indicator of its fallen status.

There is no actual social will to protect children. The left wants the right disarmed so they can impose their desired political changes without a fight, and the right wants to keep their guns to prevent said political changes from taking place.

There is only one inevitable, inescapable outcome here.

[Anonymous]

I tend to agree that military are far better options than police. They are trained to be more alert, make better decisions in a moment. Not a bad idea considering. But the fear factor ups just with a visual vs police. I could get over it knowing my kids would be safer.

[KelleyNice]

What possible good would that do? They are not going to protect children from other government trained killers in their false flag operations done to get people to accept gun control. Instead, they would be ordered to stand down.

[Avicenna]

No, absolutely not. First of all, not only are military personnel not trained for that (only MPs have even anything similar to what is needed), there aren't enough of them to do it even before you take into account their other missions.

What makes sense is to have armed police and armed security officers doing it, with one in an office looking at cameras at all times.

[normalice]

No. Study after study has shown that it makes no difference to safety and actually drags down education quality by an order of magnitude. This is why right wingers keep proposin it: because they actually want to destroy public education so they can hand out that tax money to private schools.

[TwoToTooTutu2]

Not sure what study would come to that conclusion. How does throwing a few National Guard guys in a school lower education quality?

[normalice]

Every study found the more authority figures present the less well the students do and that's not even counting the alterations some students get in with soldiers/cops that don't even need to be there 99.999% of the time. All it will take is one armed idiot thinking he needs to intervene in an argument between students and people will burn the police station down, dragging their families out of their homes in the middle of the night, and rightly so. People with guns have a way of assuming they should be the final authority instead of the invisible sevants and in a school setting that is antithetical to the main overarching lesson that intellect is the more prudent path to pursue over raw force.

[TwoToTooTutu2]

As one of the people who would be forced on that detail, we are not authority figures. And I don't think a school resource officer has ever shot a kid because they were arguing with another. Shit the principle at my school was more violent in breaking up fights than any of our resource officers.

[normalice]

After Columbian Colorado hired about 10k armed guards. They stopped zero mass shooting but arrested thousands of students, giving them criminal records, for things they would not have otherwise been arrested for. Cops have a habit of not behaving as servants should but instead patrol as though they are the highest authority. This constant threat of violent "might is right" enforcement of arbitrary rules is not conducive to a learning environment that tries to teach that "right" is based on a logical standard rather who can force then other to shut up..

[TwoToTooTutu2]

Armed guards and lower Enlisted national guardsmen who don't even have ammo are 2 different things

[normalice]

I understand that, but that has little to do with this.

[TwoToTooTutu2]

The question is asking if military personnel should guard schools. Any military personnel who would get that duty would be lower Enlisted national guardsmen

[BCA6010]

Armed security and/or police yes, not military personnel- trust me, that's not who you want to rely on in that position, plus it would be very difficult to manage it. Boots on site would be only part of the quick patchwork to a much bigger problem.

[Th3ft]

They won’t keep kids safe but classes will still get in and kill people. That will only make the kids paranoid.

[Anonymous]

No. They should make sure security doors meant to protect kids are closed. We have these doors in the uk. I work as a teacher's assistant, nobody can just wander into the school off the street.

[Anonymous]

Blame Republicans for every single domestic terrorism incident that happens from now on. They own that shit now.

[Agagagagaga]

Really? How so?

en.m.wikipedia.org/.../2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers

Was this Republicans fault also? I mean I already know you’ll say it is. I’m just pointing out your stupidity in saying that Republicans are responsible for mass shootings.

Why are they responsible for them from “this” point on? You act as if there aren’t gun control laws and background checks. More and more have been added through the years. Has it decreased mass shootings? Nope.

But I know, it’s all the Republicans fault. Just cut the bullshit and say you want to ban all guns and get rid of the Second Amendment instead of acting like your crap smells like perfumed roses.

[Anonymous]

School is already like a prison enough. Let the kids not have a trained professional with a gun ready to shoot if you do something funny.

[exitseven]

Maybe just develop security protocols for each school and see that they are followed.

[kd5zes]

A couple of veteran Dads certainly wouldn't have waited for orders under the circumstances.
Speaking for myself - military trained and no tolerance for anyone whose intent is to harm ANY children.

[Kelly6]

You want to make every school into military school?

[Juxtapose]

Why? So they can stand around outside while the kids get butchered?

[TwoToTooTutu2]

It's tiles like these that make me thankful I didn't join the National Guard.

[Anonymous]

no, but how about a trained "Democrat". They could just give any potential school shooters a big ass lecture and that would fix all the problems. 🤣

[OddBeMe]

Or…or here me out. We put more restrictions on guns.

[Agagagagaga]

Because that’s been soooo effective.

[OddBeMe]

@Agagagagaga we haven't remotely tried it.

[NHI2017]

Chigago has some of the strictest gun laws in the Nation

But they have the most shootings out of anywhere in the country.

Explain that one?

The streets of chicago should be safe in therory right?

[OddBeMe]

@NHI2017 one city surrounded by state borders with gun stores. Mmmm…not a good try.

[NHI2017]

Mmmm. Cartell shipping drugs from mexico

Add guns to the load.

And sell them on the street.

Think they won't do that?
If there was a demand?

[OddBeMe]

@NHI2017 where do the cartels get their guns from?

[NHI2017]

International arms trade, Other criminal groups. In South America.

The colombians, Russians, Different mafias. And criminal groups

Theirs guns all over the world that can wind up anywhere.

Think about how much stuff there is floating arround in the middle east,

That drug traffickers can buy, Throw on a ship. And send it to South America

The Black market. Arms trade is a multi billion dollar buisness.

And you best believe if there's a demand and money in it Sombody will be doing it,

They sell Sombody guns, they use that money to fund a war, or their criminal organization.

Dirty money, And dirty guns go hand in hand,

As long as Americans have an appetite for drugs, And guns,

there's Sombody out there whos gunna make sure they get it

[OddBeMe]

@NHI2017 nope. From the US. They cross the border, legally buy them and then go back.

[NHI2017]

You dont think they can ship them from other parts of the world?

Lmaoo you must believe in santa too?

[OddBeMe]

@NHI2017 where do they mass produce guns for their populace, dumbass?

[Anonymous]

No that's overkill. I think there should at least be some cops with guns in the school on standby. That's what my high school did for as long as I was there.

[Waldoe]

Police seem to be cowards... they only take on teenagers and old men

[abc3643]

They already do. It's called ROTC.

[Paul09]

No. Police should just be trained more, period.

[anylolone]

Just allow the teachers and staff to be armed.

[Anonymous]

Absolutely not! It's against the law anyway.

[Opinion Owner]

That is not what the military is for.

[TwoToTooTutu2]

It's not against the law though

[Opinion Owner]

Yes it sure is.

[TwoToTooTutu2]

School resource officers are a thing

[Opinion Owner]

School resource officers are NOT the military.

[TwoToTooTutu2]

Okay Little Rock Arkansas after Brown V Board. That was 101 airborne.

[Opinion Owner]

@TwoToTooTutu2 A lot has changed since then. Don't compare using federal resources as part of the Enforcement Act with community policing. There's no federal mandate or court order to impose.
Posse Comitatus still applies. Use of the military regardless of branch or component for school security is out of the question. Not going to happen. End of discussion.

[jimmy2]

Don't stop there go into schools tooo