Doing something is better than nothing.

It's the Left who refuse to enforce the laws on the books - especially against career criminals. DAs in liberal cities and states have decided not to prosecute a huge number of crimes, simply releasing those criminals without charges. Shockingly, those same criminals are often committing the exact same crime the next day, and the cycle repeats. In reality, crime is skyrocketing, but the statistics aren't recording it because no charges are being filed and increasingly the police don't even make arrests because they know it's pointless to do so.
The Left control schools almost completely, and the same policies are in force there: trouble-maker kids are not disciplined, so classrooms are constantly disrupted, students are endlessly bullied, and even teachers are attacked, and nothing is done.
Why does this happen? It's because the Left WANTS crime to be high. Why would they want that? Simple: it allows them to justify demanding ever more power and money, and it convinces people who don't pay close attention that they need to give the government more power and money (i. e., reduced rights and higher taxes for the people).
The powerful on the Left needn't worry about any of this - their kids go to safe, private schools where security IS enforced (at gun point!) - and they certainly don't care what happens to YOUR kids. They've successfully manipulated you into pushing to give THEM more power and give up more of your rights and more of your money (and everyone else's) so that they can do even more things without having to worry what you think about it.
This is why the Right understands that "doing SOMETHING" is not the answer when that "something" is giving the government more power. The Left is an incredibly poor steward of the power they have, and they fail at every turn when they have it.
Look at ALL the places with the worst crime: they're all run entirely by the Left. Chicago has been run exclusively by Democrats for 100 years, and they have the worst crime anywhere. Same with Baltimore. Same with Detroit. The Left has taken over California, Oregon, and Washington state, and crime has skyrocketed and continues to increase, and the Left's "solution" is to decline to prosecute criminals and try to abolish cash bail so they can simply release criminals back out onto the streets. The Left doesn't have to worry about Republicans in these areas - they have a supermajority - so why are these Left-run cities so awful?
No they are going to blame it on mental illness and end of story like usual
Creating more laws won't help... enforcing existing ones more aggressively is what is needed.
It's already illegal to shoot people !!! Doesn't seem to bother any of the guys who shoot up schools. As long as there are guns at all... they'll find them !!!
Paying attention to mental health would also be part of a solution !!! Getting nut cases the help they need is also part of the solution... even if it means locking them up in a facility !!!
But that will make America more socialist with universal healthcare!! đ±đ±đ±
It seems to me it comes down to the fact that people cause violence and they will get whatever they can to do it. Whether it be guns, bombs, knives, etc. In other words, even if a society outlaws guns, like in Australia, people will find other weapons. In their case, "razors."
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"Doing something is better than nothing." Wrong! Doing something that doesn't solve the problem isn't doing anything. Switzerland has a large gun ownership population and they don't have school shootings. The US did not have school shootings on this scale when I was a child. New York, Chicago, and Baltimore have very strict gun laws and they are all epicenters for homicide.
I think Democrats have two agendas with school shootings:
1. They don't want to identify the real problems because it will point to the failure of many of their "progressive" policies.
2. They want to use school shootings as a pretext to abolish private gun ownership because the left's goal is to have a society that is absolutely controlled by the government.
@OlderAndWiser what left driven policies have led to school shootings? I'm asking without sarcasm. I'd like to hear your thoughts
@Friendlybro79 The failure of discipline in schools means that bullies flourish and kids get bullied needlessly. And, on the one hand, some schools want to replace parents and encourage kids to become transgender, but schools don't accept responsibility for identifying mentally ill kids who are at risk for this kind of behavior. The left also constantly seeks to create a society in which everyone is free to pursue whatever they want to pursue without fear of consequences. And, of course, the left wants kids to never hear about or adopt any religious beliefs.
Ok but Switzerland absolutely has strict gun laws. Read this article and go to the bottom and youâll see how strict they really are. The government requires background checks there for everyone and if you have a mental issue the government can and will take the guns away from you. There are many many more regulations than this I canât even begin to list just how extensive their gun laws are.
www.businessinsider.com/switzerland-gun-laws-rates-of-gun-deaths-2018-2
Another article on how strict Swiss gun laws now are: www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21379912.amp
Here is a comment from an actual Swiss person in response to a post in this picture on how strict Swiss gun laws actually are:
mobile. twitter. com/markruffalo/status/642745108077481984? lang=sv
And here is a recent election in Switzerland where via popular vote 64% of all Swiss people voted for EVEN tougher gun laws in addition to all the ones mentioned above:
www.swissinfo.ch/.../44960944
So yes while you can own guns in Switzerland they donât have no gun control. Itâs incredibly strict and highly regulated so donât push the lie that it isnât strict. Every Swiss person you meet will simply tell you that it isnât true. Switzerlandâs policies have obviously worked so why canât we have this style of gun control in America?
Here is another article on the Swiss gun vote that made their laws even stricter. Do you think the US should have the same laws?
qz.com/.../
@Person234 Calling someone a "liar" is something that you should not do lightly; those are commonly called "fighting words." I made ABSOLUTELY NO REFERENCE to the gun ownership laws in Switzerland; I referred only to their high rate of gun ownership, suggesting that the common availability of guns is not the root cause of the problem in the US.
If you want to respond to apologize, I will listen. Otherwise, I don't want to hear from you again.
@Person234 Switzerland are more socialist than America with universal healthcare so are automatically more civilized than America that's why stricter gun control works. America will turn into a police state and dictatorship at any moment so no I will never give up my gun rights as long as the country is uncivilized and capitalist
Doing something can be better than doing nothing depending on what that something is.
@OlderAndWiser I never called you a liar. I just pointed out the fact that Switzerland owning lots of guns is not a fair comparison to America because their gun laws are so strict. If anything they make the perfect case for implementing stricter gun laws because that is what works for them.
You can read some of the articles I sent and it talks about their gun control policies which are different from ours.
@OlderAndWiser basically Iâm saying there is a reason Switzerland has fewer shootings than we do as you mentioned above and one of those reasons is their gun control policies as referenced above.
@Person234 " Itâs incredibly strict and highly regulated so donât push the lie that it isnât strict."
@Person234
I believe all citizens of Switzerland đšđ must finish two years of military service. Each citizen is also issued a rifle I believe? I might be off a bit on the details.
@OlderAndWiser Thanks for replying but I am confused on what transgender students have to do with the topic. I agree bullying is a problem
but schools are mainly controlled by the states. Some are in left leaning states and some are right leaning states. What exact progressive policies that are actually in place are you referring to?
Are we not free to pursue what we want as long as it's within the law? I'm confused of your saying people aren't allowed to be free to express themselves without a consequence of some sort? Did you mean Transgender kids or people should expect to have consequences for being who they are because others don't like their lifestyles or agree with it? Also I'm confused on what this has to do with gun violence. I am unsure if you're saying transgender and progressives are to blame for people having access to weapons easily and being shot up for being who they are or what they believe?
@Friendlybro79 I was just using the transgender issue to point out that schools gladly assume the parental role on the issues where it suits them, but they don't do much in identifying kids who have significant mental health problems. It seems that the schools think that separating people based on identifiable problems is wrong (e. g., meainstreaming kids with learning disabilities) and the obviously disturbed kids are allowed to continue in the mainstream environment.
Does that make more sense?
Not really doesn't make any sense. What do the Democrats, the left, or progressives have to do with being responsible for not identifying students that have mental health issues? It happens in red states like Texas too? What does anything you say have to do with the actual question regarding what are Republicans going to do about gun violence? You're deflecting to the left and Switzerland to avoid the question?
Also Switzerland doesn't seem to be in the top 10 countries with gun ownership. The US is number one doubling number 2.
worldpopulationreview.com/.../gun-ownership-by-country
When the bad gun owners outnumber the good gun owners, we have what we have and it makes sense. It's good vs. evil now. There is nothing in between or finding excuses. It is what it is.
@AJLMJCMLSR We are where we're at because no one will change things. That is you have to admit children's lives are more important than guns. Where are the pro lifers now?
@Friendlybro79 There are many other countries that have significant prvate ownership of guns and they do not have the problems that we have with mass shootings. It is because the number of guns is irrelevant. It is the mindset of those who have access to the guns. Blaming guns is like blaming the fork because you got fat. This is an area in which most people have already decided their positions and are not amendable to listening to contrary facts or arguments so there is no sense in continuing the discussion.
@Friendlybro79 sure children's lives are important, including the baby. You're asking where the pro lifers are. We should be asking why isn't our federal local and state governments coming together to make a common sense discussion and legislation that will satisfy the moral obligations of society.
No one has nearly as many as we do per Capita and we have the most fun violence... so the numbers are pointing that more guns equals more violence. Regardless of that we should have the right to bear arms no doubt but some form of control is needed. No control is not working. It is absolutely not working. The mindset you speak of is mental illness. Many of those other countries have universal healthcare too. We can def agree to disagree at this point if you think gun control isn't needed but to your earlier point about blaming Democrats and progressives was based on nothing tangible. Blaming unnamed policies is just silly.
@AJLMJCMLSR They so come together. One side is asking the other to loosen their grip on the moral obligation that is to figure out a way to get better background checks and some controls to gun ownership. The other side refused to acknowledge that the weapons aren't the issue even though they are the actual mechanism that is used to cause the actual murdering of little kids.
@Friendlybro79 Did you not understand what I meant when I wrote "there is no sense in continuing the discussion."?
Guys, Older bases his opinions on feelings while ignoring facts. You are wasting your time arguing with him.
@I_Can_Help Actually, my arguments are guided primarily by respect for the Constitution and the individual rights and liberties guaranteed to us by our Founders. (And I do not own a gun.)
Yes and No.
Part of the problem with the United States beyond guns or any political party is that our electoral system itself is dysfunctional.
In the US, each state has a primary election and a general election.
The primary elections are for voters to select the candidates for the general election.
The problem is due to a combination of factors:
1. In the general election, everyone can vote for any person on the ballot. So, the candidates need to appeal to as many voters as they can in the general electorate.
2. BUT, with primaries, in most states, it is only the members of a political party that can vote and they can only vote for members of their party. So, for someone like me who is not registered with any political party, in some states, I could not vote for any candidate from any political party. However, if I was a Republican, then I can vote for one of the Republican candidates but not a Democratic candidate and, similarly, if I was a Democrat, then I can vote for one of the Democratic candidates but not a Republican candidate.
3. So, in primaries, the candidates need to appeal to "the base" - voters registered to their party. In the past, this was not such a bad thing because few voters were all that extreme regarding their party, so a candidate who might do well in a general election was often selected in the primary. However, NOW, the situation is different. The "base" of a party has become so angry with the other side, that they do not want to compromise. So, now, the candidate elected in the primary is more extreme. Thus, primary candidates usually often do NOT appeal to the general electorate.
4. But that's only part of it... I could go on about the lack of electoral fusion, the Electoral College, gerrymandering, etc., but I have only so much I am permitted to write.
So, again, in the primaries, to get elected, the candidate has to appeal to the base of the party and, right now, the base is very passionate. In the past, primaries were not that important - and, before that - didn't even exist! Anyway, this means that the candidate elected in the primary to be on the ballot in the general election is often rather extreme.
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So, as far as gun control is concerned, to get elected in the primary, a GOP candidate needs to be a hard conservative regarding guns. Then, in the general election, that candidate will usually win in a "red state" (one in which GOP voters significantly outnumber Democratic voters).
The end result is that GOP members of Congress have to be against gun control no matter what they personally feel about it. The moment a GOP candidate gets soft and suggests more gun control, another candidate who is more conservative is likely to get elected. So, it's sort of a no-win situation. And our kids and minorities are paying the ultimate price.
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The New York Times explained it well in an article on Thursday (26 MAY 2022).
TITLE: Why Republicans Wonât Budge on Guns
SUBTITLE: Polls show that the overwhelming majority of Americans support some restrictions on firearms, but G. O. P. lawmakers fear they would pay a steep political price for embracing them.
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WASHINGTON â The calculation behind Republicansâ steadfast opposition to any new gun regulations â even in the face of the kind of unthinkable massacre that occurred Tuesday at an elementary school in Texas â is a fairly simple one for Senator Kevin Cramer of North Dakota.
Asked Wednesday what the reaction would be from voters back home if he were to support any significant form of gun control, the first-term Republican had a straightforward answer: âMost would probably throw me out of office,â he said.
His response helps explain why Republicans have resisted proposals such as the one for universal background checks for gun buyers, despite remarkably broad support from the public for such plans â support that can reach up to 90 percent nationwide in some cases.
The reality is that that 90 percent figure probably includes some Republicans who are open to new laws, but would not clamor for them or punish a lawmaker for failing to back them, and the 10 percent opposed reflect the sentiments of the G. O. P. base, which decides primary contests and is zealous in its devotion to gun rights.
Most Republicans in the Senate represent deeply conservative states where gun ownership is treated as a sacred privilege enshrined in the Constitution, a privilege not to be infringed upon no matter how much blood is spilled in classrooms and school hallways around the country.
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This is the bottom line though:
Sadly, nothing is going to happen in this country until the GOP realizes this is a real problem and not an abstract one. The only way that's going to occur and we get a genuine solution to our gun problems is when a GOP politician or conservative Supreme Court justice loses one of their kids or grandkids or spouse to a gunman like this.
I'll be more clear by paraphrasing Ronald Reagan's famous quote from the 1980 campaign:
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A gun problem is when your neighbor loses his kid.
A gun crisis is when you lose your kid.
And a gun solution is when GOP politicians lose their kids.
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So, back to my answer at top: "Yes and no."
The answer is "No" until someone starts slaughtering family members of VIP GOP politicians. Then the problem becomes real as it affects their family as they realize "thoughts and prayers" are more worthless than soiled toilet paper.
Link to the NY Times article:
www.nytimes.com/.../republicans-gun-control.html
@AJLMJCMLSR
You're right - that was poor of the NYT not to mention any sources of "polls".
However, when in doubt, go to Pew Research - they are the most esteemed objective pollsters.
For example, the polls in this 2021 report from Pew echo what the NYT said about the "support that can reach up to 90 percent nationwide in some cases."
www.pewresearch.org/.../
September 13, 2021
Key facts about Americans and guns
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There is broad partisan agreement on some gun policy proposals, but most are politically divisive, the April 2021 survey found. Majorities in both partisan coalitions favor two policies that would restrict gun access: preventing those with mental illnesses from purchasing guns (85% of Republicans and 90% of Democrats support this) and subjecting private gun sales and gun show sales to background checks (70% of Republicans, 92% of Democrats). Majorities in both parties also oppose allowing people to carry concealed firearms without a permit.
For some reason, that NYT URL isn't linking.. Let me try again...
www.nytimes.com/.../republicans-gun-control.html
or (put it together yourself...)
https:
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nytimes. com
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Your news source sucks.
The Republicans have pushed for increased security at schools for a long time. They often leave much to be desired in terms of ensuring that government funding for security measures actually go towards security measures, but they are far from doing nothing, even while the Democrats consistently oppose it while also quite comically advocating for defunding police and disarming law abiding citizens. I happen to know for a fact that public schools in Texas received funding (federal funding Im pretty sure) to install improved security measures and have at least one officer on each campus. This school in Uvalde apparently did not have a School Resource Officer on site at all, and did not have apparently any security obstacles that could even stall the shooter. Heads can and should be rolling over that, first in Uvalde and ultimately statewide. I'm willing to bet that districts who have done nothing or don't have an SRO on campus will try to use COVID as an excuse. I'm also willing to bet that, as a recent student, the shooter knew that the district didn't actually have armed security in the schools. Anyone who tries to tell you that armed guards and controlled entry points don't act as a deterrent to domestic terrorists has instantly discredited themselves on the subject, or they very hypocritically work at the US Capitol building which relies on exactly those things for security.
The Democrats' go-to solution is to talk about background checks. These are already a thing, and the shooter in Uvalde passed one, twice. The bill that Chuck Schumer (a Democrat by the way) has been sitting on and as of yesterday not planning on bringing to the floor for two more weeks does basically nothing except make it harder for family members to transfer ownership of a firearm between each other, and a Trojan horse for a national registry. The entire plan from their standpoint is to just let it happen, and then have paper evidence to punish the shooter afterwards, assuming they're even still alive. They don't care about public safety at all, and if they did, they wouldn't allow their most valuable cities become gang-infested sh*tholes while painting fingers elsewhere.
Doing something stupid absolutely CAN be better than doing nothing.
Funny how all Democrats can think about is more, more and more "gun control" legislation. "Oo, that's complicated. Let's do something superficial and counterproductive, instead. Let's blame Republicans. Let's punish every living and future U. S. for the actions of one or a handful of very disturbed individuals. And lets focus on only the white perpetrators."
The bottom line: "We demand fewer rights! We demand fewer rights! Fuck anyone who disagrees!"
I wonder why nobody ever talks about causes of all violence, not just gun violence.
Why are 80% of homicides by firearm committed by gangs, according to the FBI? As for mass shootings, what factors turn a person into a pressure cooker that eventually explodes? Something causes insanity and it ain't guns.
Here's the thing. The Gun-Control lobby has one single agenda - to limit firearm access as much as possible to American citizens. It's goal IS NOT to prevent deaths.
All mass shootings happen in "gun-free zones". The cities with the most restrictive gun policies also have the highest rates of fatal shootings. How's that gun control strategy working out?
So what is the true goal of "Gun control"? Power and control over the only free people in the world by those whose goal is a tyrannical, unrepresentative, New World Order/One World Government.
Also, Democrats would say that Republicans are standing in the way of harmless "common sense" regulations. In reality, their ideas are not "common sense" at all. They are hair brained and already proven to be ineffective and dangerous.
And it's not just Republican that oppose the Gun Control Lobby's agenda. Look at this partial list of pro-2nd amendment orgs.
Liberal Rifle Association, Gun Loving Liberal, Liberals for Gun Rights, Democrats for Gun Ownership, Blue Steel Democrat, Pink Pistols, Armed Equality (LGBTQ), Women Against Gun Control, Mother's Arms, 1 Million Moms Against Gun Control, Liberty Belles, Babes with Bullets, Women's Firearm Network, A Girl & A Gun, Second Amendment Sisters, the National African-American Gun Association, Black Guns Matter, Brown Girls With Guns, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO), Jews Can Shoot, Law Enforcement Alliance of America, Law Students for the Second Amendment, Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership, National Shooting Sports Foundation, Gun Owners of America, National Association for Gun Rights, Second Amendment Foundation, American Firearms Institute, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, Every 2nd Matters, Firearms Policy Coalition, Rifles and Reason, the National Rifle Association, the International Association for the Protection of Civil Arms Rights, and Firearms United.
A loaded questionâŠ. And itâs clear what your beliefs are based on your question. Itâs also unlikely you are open to conversation/thoughts outside your beliefs. So, Iâm not sure why you actually asked the question. All you are looking for is a fight and/or other who are like minded to you to validate your beliefs/thoughts.
Are there tweaks we can do to the significant amount of gun laws / restrictions on the books, probably. There are a few things I could think of / loopholes out there that could be cleaned up. Will that totally solve the problem, itâs unlikely.
The problem has nothing to do with guns and has everything to do with our degenerate society and their inability to empathize, value life and respect others (no matter their beliefs, political or other) - (itâs ok to bash people about political views, gun ideology, anything you donât agree with).
Note: everyone needs to educate themselves about existing laws, the use of guns, guns themselves, etc before having an educated conversation - (most have no clue). by the way, there is no such thing as an assault rifle.
How about not buying guns until age 21 or not buying assault, military guns? They are not laws on national level. Let us start there and this past gun terror would not have happened.
Not buying guns until you are 18, I could potential go for that one as it seems the generations that have followed me donât seem to be as grown up by the age of 18âŠ. Although if that would change I would have to push back on the draft age and the age at which one becomes an adult. The new age would be 21 for allâŠ.
Next, there is no such thing as an assault, military rifle. There are military rifles that have features that civilians cannot purchase (without a specific license) such as a fully automatic weapon (which means that you pull the trigger and it continues to fire as long as your finger has the trigger depressed).
And your proposed restriction on books, really? I would have to be adamantly opposed to that. Who is the arbitrator to determine what books to restrict? You must not be old enough to have learned about, studied and/or understand socialism & communismâŠ.
What loopholes are you referring to? Educate yourself and be specific. Generalized comments arenât sufficient to solve an issue.
Education about guns and gun safety would probably be a good start but will not be enough.
Holding individuals accountable for their actions is a must. And change the way these types of events are reported. Donât ever report/utter the perpetratorâs name or show their picture/likeness. It eliminates one or two aspects regarding the aftermath: gain notoriety / become famousâŠ.
It still wonât resolve the underlying issueâŠ. Lack of respect for others and/or human life, and an overall feeling of entitlement (which includes pride (sense of one's self-worth that is out of proportion to reality), covetousness (also known as avarice or greed), lust, anger, gluttony, envy, and sloth).
Joe Biden funded the Taliban $85.6 Billion in firearms, operational black hawks, fighter jets, and armored vehicles and advanced defense technology, and you're worried about what republicans think? He did the withdrawal in 3 days, rather than a year like he even said out of his own mouth... It would take a year to take troops and equipment, weapons out of there.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Rq-8OK4wgaA
The democrats funded terrorists... And clearly you don't care about the Americans that were left behind in Afghanistan, Aswell as the 13 US service members and the 264 Afghan civilians that were killed because of joes incompetence.
There's hundreds of millions of legal and illegal firearms in America, you can't ban guns, its physically impossible. people are printing and building ghost guns as we speak... You act as if its every republicans fault for gun violence... when that's not the case at all.
Ok but Switzerland absolutely has strict gun laws. Read this article and go to the bottom and youâll see how strict they really are. The government requires background checks there for everyone and if you have a mental issue the government can and will take the guns away from you. There are many many more regulations than this I canât even begin to list just how extensive their gun laws are.
https://www.businessinsider.com/switzerland-gun-laws-rates-of-gun-deaths-2018-2?amp
Another article on how strict Swiss gun laws now are: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21379912.amp
Here is a comment from an actual Swiss person in response to a post in this picture on how strict Swiss gun laws actually are:
https://mobile.twitter.com/markruffalo/status/642745108077481984?lang=sv
And here is a recent election in Switzerland where via popular vote 64% of all Swiss people voted for EVEN tougher gun laws in addition to all the ones mentioned above:
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/vote-may-19--2019_gun-lobby-looks-set-to-miss-its-referendum-target/44960944
So yes while you can own guns in Switzerland they donât have no gun control. Itâs incredibly strict and highly regulated so donât push the lie that it isnât strict. Every Swiss person you meet will simply tell you that it isnât true. Switzerlandâs policies have obviously worked so why canât we have this style of gun control in America?
Sorry this was supposed to be a reply to another comment but it got posted here for some reason.
Switzerland are more civilized they have universal healthcare
High school mass shootings have been a regular occurrence for more than 20 years. What makes this one any different?
It's pretty obvious what the GOP are doing when they say they want to negotiate a bipartisan agreement on gun control. They'll only offer some very minor concessions, that they know won't have any real impact on people's ability to obtain guns, and which won't do anything to curb gun violence.
The Democrats can either agree to it - in which case, when the same thing happens again, the GOP can simply say "We've tried gun control - *you* even helped design it - but it didn't work".
Or the Democrats can say it's not enough - in which case, when the same thing happens again, the GOP can simply say "We wanted to introduce this gun control, but *you* wouldn't agree to it - it's *your* fault this happened".
As usual, the Republicans are wrong on the issues, but completely out-playing the Democrats in the politics game.
âDoing something is better than doing nothing.â
1000% disagree.
I think this statement is quite false.
A lot of gun laws already exist.
People with bad intentions exist.
Part of being an adult is to accept certain truths in life.
One of these truths is that bad things happen that no one can prevent. You can make all the laws you want, ban whatever you think is bad, and do more and it wonât necessarily be an improvement as it can actually make things worse.
Whenever there is a catastrophe, the reaction is to do something because people are afraid. At this point, they may not even be thinking, rather, acting out of emotion.
They NEED to do something, even if that something wonât help anyone and can hurt more people.
No, it goes directly against their donor's wishes. The only way the GOP will ever allow any gun control is if every minority or POC went out an purchased a gun. That's what happened to the Black Panthers. That or the choice is gun control or swing from the gallows. Boebert, De Santis, and MTG have already stated that shootings like in Texas are the price we have to pay for our rights. Boebert and MTG both suggested everyone buy their children "ballistic blankies" and stfu already. So yeah, there's an industry growing around kids being massacred in schools, the GOP are all about business. We already have to have laws to tell businesses and the GOP that no, you can't use child labor, yes there needs to be a minimum wage, no you can't make people work 18 hours a day seven days a week. Dying children and making money is the GOP's bread-and-butter.
Both sides can attempt to do something about it. But there will be a true end to gun violence. Because much like the illegal drug trade, it's very much fueled by a international illegal trade. We have been fighting the war on drugs since the 70's and it's a war that has never had a clear ending in sight. Thinking a war on guns will turn out any different is illogical. We tried the war on alcohol via prohibition before the war on drugs. Also several states declared war on cigarettes prior to that. Both instances simply created a illegal market for both.
Do gun violence much like crack and meth is something that only attempt to minimize the impact of. Because we will never fully eliminate the three.
Republicans are all about keeping guns and defending the 2nd amendment. I am Republican. But we also believe that there needs to be a responsibility in the home and an incredible amount of safety.
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Let me just say this...
Every time there is a call for weapons ban and strict gun control by the Democrat party
And I underline.. EVERY TIME...
There is always a school shooting.
The person that does the shooting is always a Democrat.
Don't take my word for this. Do your homework and make up your own mind. I recommend that you should study this as if you were writing your college thesis.
Knowledge and education makes unqualified to be slaves
I never supported bullies.
In fact some of worst messes ever been was standing up to a bully.
As far as doing something in America by REPUBLICANS...
Why would you ask us?
Isn't it the Dems running the show?
All the shootings in Chicago?
Not REPUBLICANS
Oklahoma... Colombian, Lindhurst,... all Dems that fired shots... Trevon Martin... remember?
He tried to use George's own gun against him. Trevor the one pulled it out of holster.
NRA...50+ million active members...
You here of them robbing liquor stores, shooting schools.. shoot at the cops...
So... all we can at this point is stand up to Biden and refuse to submit because I don't care what office he stole...2A is constitutional... Biden is not.
I will always stand to do what is right.. especially for those who cannot... even if I had to do it alone.
"Isn't it the Dems running the show?"
With lockstep opposition from the entire Republican party. It used to be that moderates from the opposition party would vote for moderate legislation; Republicans have worked out that they can lie and cast all the blame on the Democrats for not passing legislation by simply making it so that the Democrats have to dance to the tune of their most right-wing senator, even if he's the right of some Republicans.
Illegally getting guns isn't difficult.
Matter of fact there is a YouTube video out there that loosely details how black market guns are made and sold I'm not going to send you a link because that would be very negligible of me.
Honestly posting how to get guns online is a very stupid thing to do as is we already have enough shootings making the knowledge even more widely available is not going to help.
Oh yeah I forgot there's also a book you can buy that tells you how to make guns at home it was banned in the UK for very obvious reasons you can buy that book in the United States by the way it has a US publisher.
And if that isn't enough it's not really that hard to come up with the idea of how a black powder rifle is made.
You basically drill a tiny hole in the side of a pipe then block off one end put a stock on it because otherwise you might blow your hands off then you pour in a bit of black powder and a metal bearing big enough to tightly fit into the barrel of your new black powder weapon. A lot of people might go "where's the Flint" or "how are you going to light it" and to them I have only this to say
We live in a world where you can buy wicks for fireworks quite easily and we are also in a world with a Zippo lighters handheld torches and normal lighters so I don't think it would be that difficult to come up with a way to ignite the black powder.
And yes I know if you want something that works better you will need to put more effort in than just drilling a hole in a pipe because that could explode if you just did that that could very much explode but if you're trying to make a black powder rifle to shoot someone and it explodes in your hands I think that's a good thing
And if you were actually reasonable enough to read this far down then you would have read the fact that this is indeed a dangerous thing to do and that it will blow your hands off
Also they could probably just forge a barrel to their new black powder rifle. Forging stuff isn't hard it's especially not hard to forge a cylinder
Forging a cylinder is basically just banging a piece of metal into a semi-fin slab and then wrapping it around something
Oh yeah and I used to go forging knives with my dad so I understand how not actually difficult it is to shape a piece of metal into a flat slab as when you make a knife you are literally doing that and then shaping it which is slightly more difficult than turning it into a slab and then just wrapping it around something
Oh or instead of wrapping it around something you can just make a mold and then just pour liquid metal into said mold and that would probably be a lot easier to do although you want to be careful with how you pour it otherwise the metal will actually break because if metal cools unevenly then there will be weak spots within the middle
Dude Senator Chuck Schumer, a Democrat, just killed a new bill that would help protect children in schools. 😂
Democrats have no interest in fixing any gun crime. Stop believing their lies. They only want to use it as a wedge issue to get you to vote for them.
https://nypost.com/2022/05/27/parkland-vics-dad-blasts-schumer-for-heartbreaking-school-safety-bill-block/
âSchumer (D-NY) blocked the legislation, claiming it would put more guns in schools.â
I do not think they will unless their solution is more guns. To them guns are more important than children's lives. They've made that clear with their refusal to bend with any compromise to gun control.
I hope this isn't what it takes, and I say this without desire to be correct, but if a republican politician (s) has a kid in a school that gets shot up then... maybe they'd wake up. I really don't like this part of humanity. I hope that's not why change happens one day. I hope it happens before the next shooting.
It doesn't necessarily take quite that much, but guess what happens when they catch empathy...
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45922719
"US [2018] mid-term elections: The Republican who changed his mind over guns
Not long ago Republican Phil Scott was one of the most popular governors in America, poised for a comfortable re-election in November. Then, after a possible school shooting was discovered by police in Vermont, he decided to support sweeping gun-control legislation - and has reaped a political whirlwind."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Scott
"Scott was elected to a third term in 2020 with a 41% victory margin, the largest in the state's gubernatorial election since 1996, and the largest for a Republican since 1950"
So @olderandwiser blocked me lol. If you'd liked to be blocked by him just ask him to explain his thoughts so you can try to see if there's any merit to it. When he can't answer you, because he doesn't have any, you just have to call him out, and he'll block you lol.
He blocked me long ago. I think it was when I was pointing out how the Florida government was lying about covid deaths. (They're still at it, only reporting one in 10 deaths in the previous week to make the state look good. "13" deaths in the previous week, total has gone up by nearly 300 in two weeks.)
Lol
America has devolved from a 1st world country into a 3rd world country.
The change is now so deep and absolute, nothing that the Republicans or Democrats do can ever change it.
We are on a downward spiral to imperial collapse, secessionism and civil wars. Get used to it.
That's because of capitalism and the capitalist that like to divide the American people to make them easier to exploit. There used to be a strong socialist party in America until propaganda convinced everyone to turn them and their neighbors in for being "communist" and now you have the retarded hypocritical right wing democrats and right wing republicans left to choose from that will always make the country worse and worse leaving you to vote between the lesser of two evils but they are both corrupt to the core
@vald9inches
You are an ideologue, and thus, incorrect.
Pragmatic economic systems are the most stable & prosperous.
@oldworldorder are you sure you are not projecting here? lmfao đđđ I have lived under capitalism my whole life and i have seen what it has done to me and people around me and what it has done to the world and to other sovereign countries that didn't want capitalism... There is nothing sensible about capitalism and planned obsolescence boy
No.
Both the republican AND democratic politicians will do as instructed.
The American people don't want anything done. If they were going to do it for kids, they would've done it for Sandy Hook and Uvalde wouldn't have happened.
So long as American citizens as a whole refuse to look in the mirror and acknowledge how the current govt leadership has power, this will persist.
Not doing so is a choice.
Itl never happen,
They dont care about you. Or your kids. And never will.
guns are not the problem
People are the problem
if anything more people should carry guns, it would make idiots think twice about doing somthing stuped if everyone was armed
How about enforcing the laws that are already on the books. Where I live there is a mandatory year in jail for anyone found with an unregistered firearm. This is never enforced because 99% of the people arrested for this are minorities and so the democrats say the law is racist. It does not take a genius to figure out what the result of this will be,
I will add that blame doesn't solve problems. Neither do emotions help in decisions, actions, words and collaboration. It starts with common ground, discussion and agreement. If the person is unable to even listen and try to discuss and understand points of view and why the person is passionate about something, nothing ever gets done. This is about what is moral and common sense right and good. You have to agree, the police and school are accountable and of course, politicians in Texas as well.
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