Not really. Your place of birth is a coin flip of probability. You didn't choose to be born where you were, but you choose what you call home. To call someone a "traitor" because they play against a team originating from their home country presupposes that your place of birth has a "natural right" to you, that you are their property.
The only practical reason to make this claim is that the place you play against is where you grew up and were integrated enough into the community that people recognize you. If you were born in one country, then moved to another and so weren't in the birthplace of origin long enough to put down roots and become part of the area to any meaningful degree, then that "claim to ownership" does not apply.
Yeah I kind of think it's bullshit, I see American athletes that didn't make the US Olympic team go play for a foreign country.
Kind of but I shouldn't just as I kind of do but shouldn't consider a 5 star basketball player from Arkansas playing for the University of Texas. I hate the longhorns even more so because they just beat our higher ranked women's softball team in the super regional and prevented us from going to Oklahoma for a chance at national championship.
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Why would a person be considered a traitor? I mean for example I was born in Poland, but changed countries multiple times because of my dad‘s job heck I even have three citizenships in three countries and I almost have a fourth one in here the US so if I did sports represent the country I am living now maybe to the home country I would be seen as one but I wouldn't besides I haven't been into my country of origin for a decade. But still, it's weird to be called a traitor it’s like I work as a secret government spy agent organization but I change to an evil one like... It doesn't make sense.
Nope, it’s just a job and business for a lot of people.
it’s also down to opportunity and money as well.
Some may play or represent a smaller nation, as they have a better chance to do it at a higher level.
Some may do it for the nation that pays the best etc.
I don’t think that representing the country you live in is a betrayal, it’s only a Thanksgiving to the country you went to live and work in, the country that gave you citizenship.
I think it’s more important representing a country that has the merit to symbolise a new life for you or a beacon of hope than a country that only gave you birth.
No way - its his choice there are some people who would love to win something at an international level. In this case Germany has a better chance of winning then Turkey at any given day. He may have to sacrifice his minutes on the pitch but he has guaranteed success at Germany.
If on the other hand he is just playing for the love of the game and trophies don't matter he is more likely to represent his home country rather than the lateral one.
Of course not, he's playing for the country in which he is a citizen.
What IS questionable, though not to the level of being a traitor, is when a citizen of one country plays for another country because one of their parents was born there.
Some of the best players for Beşiktaş are not Turkish and they cheer for them all the same. No one calls him a traitor.
If it were Olympics I'd say it would be a different thing. But it's not. Nothing traitorous about it
s I've seen this happening and I don't see it as treason. He might have his reasons for representing another country. Besides, he's still Turkish. He's not ethnically German.
I’m peeved at Gary Hunt for using a French flag instead of UK now. Deep down I could care less cause both countries are parts of my ancestry. 😬 No. It’s not the end of the world.
Football is an emotional sport.
People are passionate about it. The Club and country represented in football is what people are passionate about. If you born in a country and play for another. It be considered a loss for the home country. But if you no longer a citizen of your home country it is your right to play for your new home. So Yes and no.
No, but if he goes back and represents his old country then he is a traitor. If he goes back there to be in the Olympics he should just not bother coming back,
Nope. Unless he was given some kind of state scholarship, I don't see how he owes his country anything.
No, the person is not a 'traitor'.
They are a citizen of the second country, so it is to that new country that they owe their loyalty.
It's a stupid soccer game. Like seriously. He's getting that paper. Literally relax.
u nope... this is extremely and widely common, and it has been happening for decades
it is just sports, so most people don't really care either...
A country that forces your family to emigrate is a country that has betrayed you. Nobody owes this country anything.
Jokingly maybe. Not really important in the grand scheme of things.
If you're ultra nationalist, yes. Thats why i hate nationalism.
This is sort of like how “it’s not stealing if nobody wants it”
I would consider that country defective for doing that.
No just got another person to cheer for
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