No, gender equity is about equalising outcomes. Gender equality means "anyone can apply for this job but we'll hire the best candidate, regardless of gender". Gender equity means "we need a 50/50 split of men and women in our staff, so while anyone van apply, we'll only consider the gender that's currently the minority in our company." Having an equal opportunity to put your best foot forward isn't the same as having equitable outcomes enforced artificially.
Human Rights Watch has documented the use of virginity tests by security forces in Egypt, India and Afghanistan and criticized calls for virginity tests for Indonesian school girls. Male circumcision of male infants are widely excepted, while female circumcision is considered a violation of human rights. In India and China, the two most populous nations in the world, there is significant data that shows a survival disadvantage for girls under five years of age. In China, girls have a seven percent higher infant mortality rate than boys, and in India, a study conducted in the first decade of the 2000s found that the risk of death between the ages of one and five was 75 percent higher for girls than for boys. There are approximately 774 million illiterate adults in the world and two-thirds of them are women. There are approximately 123 million illiterate youths and 61 percent of them are girls
Customs and religion beliefs is something different you can't count that in circumcision is based on religion i don't see an equal opportunity there men and women parts are different i dont know how women's genital mutilation is done i mean like what they do i don't have any knowledge and circumcision is just removal of skin from penis head doesn't do any harm although personally i don't like it.
Like also let's say if there a rule that a Muslim man can marry upto 4 women , if i do it it's crime as i am not muslim I can't say i want to marry 4 women , and also i don't want to
Coming to being illiterates that's due to conditioning and poverty there free government schools maybe not upto mark but something better than nothing it' solely depends on circumstances of one's own life and surroundings.
How are virginity tests discrimination it would have been discrimination if guys got virginity tests which scientifically cannot be done.
And it's a choice whether someone wishes to marry a virgin girl or not.
People sell their virginity to old rich men but i don't see the opposite so women should do that buy guys virginity equal opportunities
I mean i don't see your point of equal opportunities or equal rights here because in both case they have rights.
Like a robber knows if he is going to a shop he will be jailed but if you see he still ribs and makes that as a crime.
Not withholding someones rights is a crime but there was an equal opportunity
Lol i can give other articles stating them right and you don't need to be a doctor for that because you yourself are using some reference points not being one.
But i am not going debate about it , i am saying what else meaning other than this what else?
Okay then find a legitimate article written by a doctor in the field of Womens heath that contradicts that.
According to the National Library of Medicine. “ health professionals do not perform virginity tests because it is a violation of human rights, a form of gender violence, and most importantly because virginity testing has no scientific foundation and is medically unreliable.” www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5958548/
Selective service… and there is very little medical evidence that male circumcision that proves that it is medically beneficial. Not enough to warrant mutilating the penis of an infant….
Most males don’t have that issue, and if they did there are other thing that can be done. That’s a poor excuse to try and justify genital mutilation in infants.
Because it is a cosmetic procedure that doesn’t really have any medical benefits don’t to male infants…. A piece of their penis is removed as an infant generally for no reason…
I support equity over equality. Men and women are equal in terms of importance, but have different needs. It's important to meet the needs of both so that true equality can be met.
I would like a world where human identity groups are more dynamic and equal yes. a lot of people who claim to support equality only support it in specific areas while expecting certain benefits because of previous rules and attitudes.
We already have gender equality but we must not forget that we are still different both with strengths and weaknesses we must have gender exceptance as well and are tradition roles must not be forgotten
see. you can't even understand a simple thought. its relevant because why would i want to be equal to a population that can't understand normal thought and is incapable of making rational decisions?
Ohh I understand but Im asking you to explain your though process so that people don't jump to conclusions. Because from where I am standing it sounds like you've spent quite a lot of time around some really shitty people and now feel the need to make gross generalizations about over 50% of the populations because of it.
I've spent 40 year in 2 of the biggest cities in america. I've met and work with thousands of people from all walks of life. some miserable, most not. my family is mostly female. my coworkers are also mostly female. you asked my opinion and it was given with great experience and no malice. i love woman. that does not mean i want them in any role outside of a sidekick or assistant position.
That is an absolutely idiotic statement. Wow. Have you not heard of Tomi Lahren, Candace Owens, Ellen Degeneres, etc? I would be happy to explain more if needed. @Subarugirl, Why don't you help me explain to this man the stupidity of his statement?
Yeap, too many problems in the world, I can't be bothered looking at all of them. Not to mention, we're already equal by law in the countries I care about. Being equal in the minds of the people is never going to happen, so don't worry about it.
Feminism isn’t striving for gender equality because of the fact that it is way harder to be a guy today than a girl. An ugly guy will be forever alone and an ugly girl can put makeup on, get thin and become attractive.
And how is that feminisms fault? Or have anything to do with feminism? Feminism is about gender equality and gender equality is basically synonymous with equal opportunity.. Sounds like you have more of an issue with women being picky about who they seep with than the equality of the sexes...
Feminism is a superior movement for women. You are already on top of society. You have easier dating lives, can beat on us and get away with it unless we have money or are rich and handsome so people would defend us. But if a pretty girl beats an ugly or average guy, nobody will defend that. Also feminism is a man hating movement. A lot of them always are saying bad things about men all the time.
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I really wonder who would actually vote No here? :-D
I support most types of equality. Whoever doesn’t scares me and quite frankly I hope I never encounter anyone like that 💀
And yes I mean actual equality and not misandry/misogyny before the annoying people reply to this
Yeah let me sit like I sit on the train!
I support equality under the law and nothing further. Any preferential treatment--however well intentioned--is discrimination.
I do. But equality to only those women who deserve it.
What do you mean by that
Not all women are good. There are some who tend to exploit things they should not, tarnishing the whole gender's name in the process.
So, equality to all but leaving such women behind. Same can be applied for men and other people exploiting things provided to them.
I support equal opportunity regardless of gender. Beyond that it's every man/woman for himself, may the best competitor win, etc.
That’s literally what gender equity is
No, gender equity is about equalising outcomes. Gender equality means "anyone can apply for this job but we'll hire the best candidate, regardless of gender". Gender equity means "we need a 50/50 split of men and women in our staff, so while anyone van apply, we'll only consider the gender that's currently the minority in our company." Having an equal opportunity to put your best foot forward isn't the same as having equitable outcomes enforced artificially.
Unless you meant to write 'gender equality', in which case I agree.
Actually it’s not.. it’s essentially equal opportunity
Equal opportunities for what?
Yup please don't tell me the definition say the purpose and where and when it is required to apply
for everything, freedom from discrimination or oppression based on gender.
Examples that's a broad way so give me examples my lady
Jobs, healthcare, education, politically, and socially
Where do you see the lack of opportunity in all these places?
Human Rights Watch has documented the use of virginity tests by security forces in Egypt, India and Afghanistan and criticized calls for virginity tests for Indonesian school girls.
Male circumcision of male infants are widely excepted, while female circumcision is considered a violation of human rights.
In India and China, the two most populous nations in the world, there is significant data that shows a survival disadvantage for girls under five years of age. In China, girls have a seven percent higher infant mortality rate than boys, and in India, a study conducted in the first decade of the 2000s found that the risk of death between the ages of one and five was 75 percent higher for girls than for boys.
There are approximately 774 million illiterate adults in the world and two-thirds of them are women. There are approximately 123 million illiterate youths and 61 percent of them are girls
You want people to die equally?
Customs and religion beliefs is something different you can't count that in circumcision is based on religion i don't see an equal opportunity there men and women parts are different i dont know how women's genital mutilation is done i mean like what they do i don't have any knowledge and circumcision is just removal of skin from penis head doesn't do any harm although personally i don't like it.
Like also let's say if there a rule that a Muslim man can marry upto 4 women , if i do it it's crime as i am not muslim
I can't say i want to marry 4 women , and also i don't want to
Coming to being illiterates that's due to conditioning and poverty there free government schools maybe not upto mark but something better than nothing it' solely depends on circumstances of one's own life and surroundings.
How are virginity tests discrimination it would have been discrimination if guys got virginity tests which scientifically cannot be done.
And it's a choice whether someone wishes to marry a virgin girl or not.
People sell their virginity to old rich men but i don't see the opposite so women should do that buy guys virginity equal opportunities
I mean i don't see your point of equal opportunities or equal rights here because in both case they have rights.
Like a robber knows if he is going to a shop he will be jailed but if you see he still ribs and makes that as a crime.
Not withholding someones rights is a crime but there was an equal opportunity
scientifically women can't be checked for virginity either...
There are ways scientifically that's why they exist based on tissue
no there isn't... that is a myth. Look it up.
It's been conducted from long , although it's banned i guess also there is something like that anyways.
But we were talking if equality here like equality can't be achieved here as it's totally individual entity.
So what else?
no like it is literally impossible to tell. The medical community at large has verified that.
Agree to disagree , but what else
Are you a doctor? Because the doctor who wrote this article says otherwise.. blogs.webmd.com/.../virginity-tests-a-gynecologist-sets-the-record-straight
Lol i can give other articles stating them right and you don't need to be a doctor for that because you yourself are using some reference points not being one.
But i am not going debate about it , i am saying what else meaning other than this what else?
Okay then find a legitimate article written by a doctor in the field of Womens heath that contradicts that.
According to the National Library of Medicine. “ health professionals do not perform virginity tests because it is a violation of human rights, a form of gender violence, and most importantly because virginity testing has no scientific foundation and is medically unreliable.”
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5958548/
Are you saying that they are wrong?
Lol i am saying is that leave this point what other points you have for equal opportunities and equal rights
Circumcision…. Infant Male circumcision is legal and most don’t do it for religious reason
Selective service registration is another
Circumcision…. Infant Male circumcision is legal and most don’t do it for religious reason
May be for medical reasons as well
Selective service registration is another
Depending skills it might be there but there is a reason for that even they sort it out with men as well
But what service are you talking about
Selective service… and there is very little medical evidence that male circumcision that proves that it is medically beneficial. Not enough to warrant mutilating the penis of an infant….
There is medical benefits for it , i know as i have been through it although not as a baby but as a teenager.
But to only to those who have the foreskin getting attached to the head completely like it won't leave the head to pop out even for peeing.
Most males don’t have that issue, and if they did there are other thing that can be done. That’s a poor excuse to try and justify genital mutilation in infants.
That is case dependent as i said it was my case and medically required you might think it as poor excuse because you don't know much about it.
If there was another way i am sure the doctors would have suggested why if not religious purpose then who would even think that to go mutilate penis.
Still how is this related to gender eauality
Because it is a cosmetic procedure that doesn’t really have any medical benefits don’t to male infants…. A piece of their penis is removed as an infant generally for no reason…
I support equity over equality.
Men and women are equal in terms of importance, but have different needs.
It's important to meet the needs of both so that true equality can be met.
I support equality of opportunity. Not equity or equality of outcome.
Lol that’s what gender equality is.
That's the textbook definition, yes. But we see a lot of leftists conflating the two.
Oh yeah just like how a lot of guys do with the definition of feminism
Feminism is cancer.
lol feminism is based on gender equality.. equal opportunity
Lol, not anymore. Because you have equality. There’s no reason for feminism now
I may, but there are millions who don't...
Not in any western country.
And women in non-western countries matter less?
lol, no dummy. But you aren’t doing jack shit to help them.
Actually I sponsee several girls in 3rd world countries… what do you do?
Giving money to charity is noble, but that’s not changing the culture in those countries. I raised two daughters to not be feminists.
I’ve been there and met them…
Here’s your halo
So what do you do?
I told you. I raised two daughters that aren’t feminists.
So you raised two daughters who don’t believe that they should have the same rights as men?
I raised two daughters that aren’t shrill harpies screaming in pussy hats.
Great job avoiding the question
Lol.
Yea or no?
I would like a world where human identity groups are more dynamic and equal yes. a lot of people who claim to support equality only support it in specific areas while expecting certain benefits because of previous rules and attitudes.
Yes. And I'm talkin no woman getting more rights than a man. That ain't no gender equality.
I support equality of opportunities but not of outcome.
What’s up with outcome?
We already have gender equality but we must not forget that we are still different both with strengths and weaknesses we must have gender exceptance as well and are tradition roles must not be forgotten
I believe that we should all be treated with respect as human human beings. That’s really not a controversial issue.
every woman i have ever known did not have the ability to make decent decisions in any aspect of life if they were not guided by a man.
how is that relevant to the question?
see. you can't even understand a simple thought. its relevant because why would i want to be equal to a population that can't understand normal thought and is incapable of making rational decisions?
Ohh I understand but Im asking you to explain your though process so that people don't jump to conclusions. Because from where I am standing it sounds like you've spent quite a lot of time around some really shitty people and now feel the need to make gross generalizations about over 50% of the populations because of it.
I've spent 40 year in 2 of the biggest cities in america. I've met and work with thousands of people from all walks of life. some miserable, most not. my family is mostly female. my coworkers are also mostly female. you asked my opinion and it was given with great experience and no malice. i love woman. that does not mean i want them in any role outside of a sidekick or assistant position.
Well that’s is incredibly bigoted and totally sexist. I hope you don’t have any daughters….
That is an absolutely idiotic statement. Wow. Have you not heard of Tomi Lahren, Candace Owens, Ellen Degeneres, etc? I would be happy to explain more if needed. @Subarugirl, Why don't you help me explain to this man the stupidity of his statement?
@Amarawhaaay because I’d rather not sink to his level
@Amarawhaaay i have heard of those woman. they are wonderful and would make very good assistants.
You are nothing but a bully, so I will not sink to your level. God bless.
therefore we shouldn't give them equal rights in your opinion?
If females truly made less than males what greedy corporation would hire a male if it could save money by having an all female workforce.
Uh what does that have to do with the question?
Do I support it? No. Do I work against it? No.
Whatever happens happens.
so basically you don't care until it directly impacts you?
Yeap, too many problems in the world, I can't be bothered looking at all of them.
Not to mention, we're already equal by law in the countries I care about. Being equal in the minds of the people is never going to happen, so don't worry about it.
Uhh they what about the selective service registration? Or the reproductive health rights that are under attack
Those words mean nothing to me
Feminism isn’t striving for gender equality because of the fact that it is way harder to be a guy today than a girl. An ugly guy will be forever alone and an ugly girl can put makeup on, get thin and become attractive.
And how is that feminisms fault? Or have anything to do with feminism? Feminism is about gender equality and gender equality is basically synonymous with equal opportunity.. Sounds like you have more of an issue with women being picky about who they seep with than the equality of the sexes...
Feminism is a superior movement for women. You are already on top of society. You have easier dating lives, can beat on us and get away with it unless we have money or are rich and handsome so people would defend us. But if a pretty girl beats an ugly or average guy, nobody will defend that. Also feminism is a man hating movement. A lot of them always are saying bad things about men all the time.
Uh no as define feminism is about equality and equal opportunity
Were you team depp or team heard?
Depp obviously… it wasn’t a team it was about supporting a victim of assault…
Men and women are different and I rather celebrate those differences rather than trying to encourage masculinity in women and femininity in men.
Then it should be equal for all aspects where men and women are the same.
Sex equality? Yes.
Sex equity? Doesn't exist.
Uhh no.. gender equality
"gender" ANYthing is simply a mental construct some use to justify their actions.
I didn’t vote because this all depends on who is defining “gender equality”.