Should we in Texas be embarrassed of all our police response to this school shooting?

[jimmy2]

It was just not local police it was by all 350 plus officers who cares about their safety more than the children lives. What your thoughts here?

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I think I know their training so much more than most of all the Police

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Make you Wonder about our DPS

[Anonymous]

No, we have to learn from it.


Also, that kid who shot up that school was paid to do that and is now living in Mexico with a new identity.


Why was he paid to do that? To push for more gun control policies.

[Lliam]

I blame those who were giving the orders, not the individual cops. Those who were giving the orders should be fired and held up to an inquest.

[AMS700CX4u2]

Jimmy 2 , at this point I agree with you. Maybe we need to add some practical application in the training. When I was a medical officer in the Division of Corrections in Florida,, my job was Lab and X-Ray but in orientation, I was trained at the pistol range with a Smith and Wesson 38 special with a 4 inch combat barrel, a Ruger 30-06 and a Browning 12 guage 5 shot automatic. During a prison riot I was expected to act accordingly. I was deputized one night on a manhunt. The Sheriff knew who had firearms in the house and requested our involvement. Very tense moments. My neighbor and I took a truck with a mounted spotlight. We saw nothing. The guy turned himself in for a Coke and a Candy Bar. I would imagine that the moment you change from engaged to wait to waiting to engage are surreal. I would think your mind handles the situation like you are watching TV until that first shot rings out and you realize that it was pointed at you. At that point societies rules go out the door. From what I understand they had multiple opportunities to engage but did not. Why not? I could see a "who is in command" moment occuring but not for long. With every shot another child lost his or her life. I worked in the medical examiners offices of two states. I have a very suspicious mind. When it comes to possibilities no one is beyond suspicion.

[jimmy2]

I was in Corrections for 23 years. I was train on a 38, police shotgun and AR-15. And one time I took a imate to a child born still and as we were going back to the van 3 young men came behind big ceder tress going for their guns and I help out my hand pulled my gun and yelled stop and they so young they did stop.

[exitseven]

This was a tragedy that never should have happened. however to place the blame on the guys that were on premises that day does them a big disservice.

There was a failure of leadership. The head of the school police was a political appointee and not a real cop. Cops are afraid to act without authorization because they could get fired or maybe even put in jail. Why would any cop want to take a chance.

That is a big part of why they were all afraid to storm that classroom and take out the shooter.

[nachosaresexy]

Yikes. If you happen to ever encounter an actual victim of one of these of incidents (a parent/grandparent/relative/love one) I would strongly suggest you spare them from that abstract garbage.

[Lliam]

@nachosaresexy. What the fuck are you talking about?

[jimmy2]

Little kids was being killed the no way these chicken cop not do what they need to do and that is open the door and kill the shooter. 360 cops and took 77 minutes when it should have been 3 minutes

[exitseven]

If you were a cop in Biden's America you would not take a chance on acting without authorization bacause you would end ip getting fired and losing your pension or maybe end up in jail. This is what Obama and the democrats have done to law enforcement. That is why I just bought firearms for protection.

[nachosaresexy]

@exitseven @Lliam again, if you made these types of politically-driven, non-sensical excuses for why those on scene whose job is to protect & serve don't deserve blame/accountability for people's kids dying, you would deserve to get punched squarely in the face by any one of the impacted family members.

We're talking about small-town freaking Texas, with a governor who openly tweets about encouraging his citizens to buy more guns to keep their rightful place as the biggest gun owning state in murrrica, and where the saying is COME AND TAKE IT... and yet, these inept cops on scene weren't ill-prepared and crumbled under pressure... nope, it's Biden's fault. Y'all are political hack nutjobs completely detached from reality.

[Lliam]

@nachosaresexy. Politically driven? When did I say anything political, ass hole? You're the one who sounds like you have a political angle, Mr. Clueless.

[nachosaresexy]

@Lliam Try to keep up with the adults. I replied to someone else. You then chimed in with a derp-derp 'WTF' reply that added nothing to the conversation, so I went ahead and tagged you in the next reply to give you a chance to join the adult conversation. My mistake, apparently.

[nachosaresexy]

@Lliam Lemme try it this way tho...

You won't find a more gun-friendly state than TX, historically & current, while still firmly in control by gun-loving GOP leaders.

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Meanwhile, mass shootings happen literally daily in America. Less common in schools, fortunately, but still not uncommon at all.

To cut to the case... shiz went down in Uvalde, cops responded the way they did, and some of you are apparently blaming 'those giving orders' and giving the rest of the wet noodles on scene a free pass. No blame. No accountability. Stuff happens, i guess?

Coming from the people who love to talk about personal accountability, and who praise cops in all circumstances, it becomes a bit difficult for me to reconcile all of these viewpoints/rationalizations.

[AmandaYVR]

Absolutely. A complete disgrace. I hear the number closer to 400. 400 almost all men, I’m sure, supposedly all professional law enforcement, who took oaths to protect and serve, and they let 19 innocent children die. And two teachers, raising your youth. Pathetic. All the guns in the world couldn’t fix this situation.

[Chazmatazz269]

Embarrassment doesn’t foster change. The citizens of Texas should be making immediate and drastic changes. Every one of those cops should be charged with aiding and abetting a mass murderer.

[Snsl153]

Is this school shooting number 347 or 348 for the year of 2022 in the United States of America? It's so hard to keep up sometimes.

[Lliam]

Those sound like bogus numbers from some anti-gun propagandist org like the Brady Campaign. I'd like to see a detailed run down on every one of those so-called school shootings.

Years ago, the Brady Campaign said something similar. They said that there had been one hundred forty something school shootings since Sandy Hook. Various mainstream journalists set out to verify the claim and found that only a dozen or so could be considered school shootings.

The Brady Campaign had changed the definition to include any discharge of a firearm within a school zone, not even in a school. No injuries or even intent to cause hard necessary. They'll say anything to further their agenda

[OddBeMe]

I haven't studied Uvalde, but i imagine the small town cops were afraid and untrained for mass shootings. can't quite blame them completely.

Bottom line: we can either prep for mass shootings, or start regulating guns.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Police in this country are trained their safety and life matters most.

Very few of them will be willing to get shot and potentially killed for another person they don't even know much less be thankful to them.

[captain_voidwalker]

It's a glowing endorsement of the 2nd amendment, clearly the police cannot be counted on to defend you so you have to defend yourself.

[Fuentes]

Only Uvalde they proved to be incompetent and a waste of Tax payers dollars and should be revamped.

[joeldalton]

You should be infuriated, not embarrassed.

[Anonymous]

False flag.