What do you think about the climate too hot or too cold?

[monorprise]

Think temperatures are hot today they are nothing compared to earth's history or even relatively recent history of the current Interglacial.

What we are told about the climate isn't the whole story, and like everything else in news and politics is usually cherry picked information for the propose of pushing drama for an agenda.

We are currently in what is known as a Holocene Epoch an 11k year old Interglacial of the on going 2.58 million year old Quaternary Ice Age.

As the Video explained we are not even in the warmest part of the current Interglacial an Interglacial which is still far cooler than past Interglacials.

Its worth noting that Interglacial tend only to last around 10k years before diving back into Glacial lasting around 100k year. Our current Interglacial is already 11k years old...

[maximumpower]

"Climate Change" is cyclical.

Example: Receding ice and snow in mountains of Italy have exposed trenches from WW1. How do you think they got there? Did they dig through the ice and snow? No. They were excavated BEFORE ice and snow covered them. Was there a major issue about climate change in the early 1900s? No.

I distinctly recall headlines in 1977 screaming about the coming of the next ice age. It didn't happen.

The subject will pop up in another 40 years or so, just in time for the next wave of environmental activists to pick up their signs and march for the cause.

[monorprise]

In the short term climate will go both direction as the graph shows, in no small part driven by the cycles of the source of energy in the Sun.

In the long term we are still in the middle of an ice age and the ice will return. We humans have to figure out a way to end the ice age or at least prolong the current Interglacial until we do.

[Astarlessnightsky]

Yes, but the current climate change isn't happening over tenthousands of years, its happening within hundred years.

Its the super sonic speed, the climate changes which makes the current situation so dangerous.

[monorprise]

I'm not sure i buy the rate of change argument did you see how fast past changes were happening on said graph?

Regardless this is a minor problem compared to what will happen if we don't figure out how to break the cycle of ice age relatively soon.

[Jessica405]

It matters little what the cause is. It may be natural or man made. Who cares which it is. It is the end result that matters. We are gonna fry, whatever the cause.

[monorprise]

The history of earth's climate make it more likely we will freeze

[Jessica405]

Follow science like I do. With all the billions of tons of CO2 and methane etc being shoved into the atmosphere, that is very unlikely. You cannot go by history as we have not had industry, iintensive farming and population like we have now.

[monorprise]

@Jessica405 The problem with "the science" as illustrated is they are once again practicing politics not science. In science your models are adjusted to reflect your data. Here they are telling us the data is just wrong and keeping the models with their wrong predictions.

[Jessica405]

Simple fact. UK experienced its hottest day on record. When do YOU think it will stop? Don't leave it too late!!

[monorprise]

@Jessica405 Hopefully not before the ice on both polls melt and we have mastered control of the climate.

[ChrisMaster69]

Nope the world is fucked.

anyone trying to use temperatures from before man, is a complete arsehole and pathetic,

Modern plants, insects - pollinators would die out.

it’s pathetic cunts that try and say ‘oh it was hot during dinosaurs’ that are just morons.

Africa and other countries are struggling to feed themselves

Vineyards in the UK are in the midlands and moving further north.

it used to be a piss take about vineyards in the very south of the UK.

[Jessica405]

Right on!

[monorprise]

The fact that we have already survived far worse, doesn't change your prediction...

From where we are sitting right now in Earth's history warming is a good thing, its cooling that is the real problem.

[NamerOfStars]

I tell you what: go outside and plant some of those olives the Romans were so fond of during their time in England. Twelve hundred years later and it's STILL too cold there. But they grew just fine a few centuries earlier. Is that due to human effort? Was the Toba eruption human-caused? Obviously not, because the NINE DEGREE temperature drop that caused wiped out all life on Earth. Or it would have, if it hadn't all been killed by the melting of the Permian ice shell, which was obviously caused by humans burning coal fifty million years before it existed.

Look, our current climate shifts ARE going to cause serious trouble, and are very likely at least partially human-caused. But doomsaying nonsense doesn't help anything- nor your denial of basic geological history.

[ChrisMaster69]

@NamerOfStars lol, you can actually grow olive trees in the UK, 🤦🤦🤦🤦

[ChrisMaster69]

Also the Romans could not grow them here.. but now you can…hmmmmm

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[Guy13]

Bull 💩…. Climate fluctuates…. history. It’s all about money ‼️

[monorprise]

That's basically what the video says.

[Guy13]

Damn, something in media that’s not slanted left 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ Who would have ever thought it. 🎉

[Dargil]

What is the temperature supposed to be?

[monorprise]

That depends upon when and where, the short answer is changing.

Broadly speaking we are living in the middle of one of Earth's great ice age ages.

But we specifically live in a relatively warm part of that ice age called an Interglacial which will end no matter what we do, likely in the relatively near future.
Those same UN reports claim even if we burned the remaining 90% of Earth's fossil fuels we would only forestall the next 5 glacial cycles.
Theses are of course the same models which consistently overestimate warming drastically. Still we should take what we can get until we can find anther solution.

[Dargil]

We don't need a solution.

[monorprise]

@Dargil The ice age will return and when it does the environment on this planet will cease to support more than a small fraction of the life currently on it.

[Dargil]

You obviously can read and think.