Apple, I imagine anything comes with complication but I think anything is better than nothing in an emergency I also think the confidence helps knowing you’ve got- something. You’re badass I imagine you’ll do well 😌
Any weapon is only good if you know how to use it. Anything from a ball point pen to a fully automatic machine gun is worthless if you can't bring it to bear. My day to day weapon is an umbrella, its tactical and designed as a weapon but its only an umbrella. No hidden blades no pistol round just a very very sturdy umbrella. But me and that umbrella spent a bunch of time beating up the michalen man in my back yard (a combat dummy built out of old tires).
If you choose to cary a weapon be prepared to use it, know how to hold it, how to get your hands into it, how not to hurt yourself while using it and the legalities involved in both using it and carying it. In many places just carrying a weapon counts as premeditation.
They can be helpful but you can't rely on such weapons for you're safety, a person who's going to rape you ain't that dumb to not knowing that you might be armed unless he was drunk or have a very low IQ...
The most effective safety is when you go out with you're husband or be in a group if you're not married or do not have a boyfriend...
If other men thinks like me that you wouldn't need a thing 😄
I treat a woman as if she's my mother or sister or daughter or wife...
I hate some women especially feminists but i'll never hurt them cause they are humans with a soul after all even if they have no brains at all 🤣🤣
The only exception is that i'll hurt a woman if she tries to attack me, i don't come from these groups where they say never lay a hand on a woman naaahhhh, if she's going to attack me than i'll see her like a predator!
@Apple1996 true i agree, well in this case it depends on where you live and how the people were raised there, is it a safe region or not...
You see i'll never know why a woman must suffer like that, a woman should feel safe when she goes out alone and the men in the neighborhood who knows her should protect her and assure that she will be back home safe!
I have a lot of respect for married women especially housewives, the girl should go out shopping happily and return back home safe and happy to her kids!
Or she can take her kids with her so they all have fun together and she should never worry about any danger, that's what real men provide for a woman!
I live in a dangerous town. Just how it is. I'll be moving soon but that area is not much better. I can't control where I live cuz of my husband's job they just put us wherever they need us
Too bad, you know it ain't good for your husband too cause he will be at work but his mind is with you and his kids at home all the time! A man should go out to work with a comfortable mind knowing that his wife and kids are safe and happy and that nothing wrong is going to happen to them!
You know it all goes back to the mentality of the person and not only the laws!
Imagine if there was no law where you live, should they rape you, hurt you and kill you? Ofc not!
Personally my laws are in my mind, with and without laws a girl will always be safe with me and feel very comfortable, not only women but everyone else!
I can never hurt an innocent person and i never use my power as a man to destroy a woman because a woman lives her entire life giving all her heart and all herself to a man...
A man should love a woman the way she loves him and take care of her the way she takes care of him and to be there for her whenever she feels sick or emotionally broken!
No I don't think those are very good at all you're a woman you're a woman you're much smaller if a man attacks you you need a gun you should definitely go and get your carry permit. I was just watching this show about how sex trafficking is on the rise in America
It has been for the last 10 years. Frantz Beasley is my hero, for the walk he is doing across the country right now, to the Statue of Liberty... I'm hoping to join him for a few days next month.
Now you do, he is walking from Los Angeles to the Statue of liberty to bring awareness to human trafficking and murdered and missing women, with a focus on Natives, Latina's and Black women as they are a huge percentage of the human trafficking victims.
I don't know where around here is but you could be in the middle of nowhere and encounter some nut job or some fucking idiot that has road rage for no reason. I have a 45 caliber with me at all times. Being a truck driver I experience a lot of people losing their shit on the highway. Road rage is pretty common
A firearm is probably your best and safest bet. The kitty rings and brass knuckles will work but only if you’re skilled enough to use them. The stun gun isn’t reliable but it can be effective if it works correctly.
Maybe, but there's always the concern that if it's legalized and made accessible that it will also be misused/abused. Imagine a woman hitting a man square across the jaw with brass knuckles because she was rejected or didn't like what he said, or because she *thought* he was about to do something but was being paranoid. Women have every right to defend themselves, but I don't believe their means of defense can be made as powerful as possible. There's also the fact that most women will still not have an upper hand if faced with a muscular or multiple assailants.
most men wouldn't have the upper hand either, yea, it sucks that we’re weaker, i fucking hate it, but most men aren't meaty muscle monsters, fighting isn't as easy as it seems for the opposite sex
Better than nothing. It's unrelated somewhat, but my mum used to work at a school: during one of their school shooter drills, one of the other teachers freaked out and threw her keys (and this wasn't some dinky ring of 1 or 2 keys: this was some BIG, beefy ring of keys). Gave the cop roleplaying the school shooter a NASTY jagged Frankenstein-like scar across the side of his head! After that, they had to tell staff NOT to throw their keys.
I’d say the tools that are not dependent on physical strength, such as stunguns or chemical spray would probably be more effective, but ultimately I still have to go with Samuel Colt on this one.
@MikeInHawaii Most petty criminals are cowardly opportunist, just like most predators in nature. How many predators attack porcupines or skunks? When the prey is armed the predator thinks twice.
No, a woman with these will probably just piss off whoever is confronting her, and increase the danger. Better to have a flashlight, pepper spray and a loud siren, and use them if/when confronted... and run away from the attacker.
Yes. Today many incidents happen way too much that make women feel unsafe. I was stalked by a coworker at my job who wouldn’t take a hint I wasn’t interested in him so I always carry my self defense weapons whenever I leave the house.
Be careful in some places it's illegal to posses them and if you use them for self defence you'll get in legal trouble. Also if you're not used to handle them, especially in a situation under pressure the questions is how useful they'll be. Especially things like brass knuckles require that you get in the face of your opponent what can be potentially dangerous for you yourself.
Unless you live or work somewhere that firearms can't be carried concealed, these are all a waste of time. The stun gun is a hesitant maybe, but still an inferior choice to a compact or subcompact handgun (and range time).
If your life is in danger, then being less-than-lethal is the least of your worries.
They can be if they know how to use them probably and actually practiced on how to defend themselves with such weapons. It won't do them any good if they panic or are too scared to fight back. Best thing to do is get in defense class first if you feel like you're the type of person to freeze when caught in danger.
Prevention, knowing your surroundings, and some common sense are by far the best defense. Everything else is for emergencies. The things you mentioned could actually make it worse. Even a gun is not completely reliable, and the things you mentioned are far less reliable.
That doesn't mean to not carry them. But they are emergency only. If you ever need to use those things, rely on the shock factor to give you time to escape. Don't rely on the injury.
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for certain situations, they could be helpful sure... and for others it might not be enough
the most helpful things we can do most of the times, is awareness, prevention and planning
and keeping ourselves out of trouble and safer as much as possible
Apple, I imagine anything comes with complication but I think anything is better than nothing in an emergency I also think the confidence helps knowing you’ve got- something. You’re badass I imagine you’ll do well 😌
Thank you for saying I'm a badass but I'm not lol
lol you play it well then 😂 good job!! 🙌🏼
@VIVANT the skyscrapper girl will smash them with her feet cause she's so tall that the attackers will look like insects to her 😂😂
Any weapon is only good if you know how to use it. Anything from a ball point pen to a fully automatic machine gun is worthless if you can't bring it to bear. My day to day weapon is an umbrella, its tactical and designed as a weapon but its only an umbrella. No hidden blades no pistol round just a very very sturdy umbrella. But me and that umbrella spent a bunch of time beating up the michalen man in my back yard (a combat dummy built out of old tires).
If you choose to cary a weapon be prepared to use it, know how to hold it, how to get your hands into it, how not to hurt yourself while using it and the legalities involved in both using it and carying it. In many places just carrying a weapon counts as premeditation.
They can be helpful but you can't rely on such weapons for you're safety, a person who's going to rape you ain't that dumb to not knowing that you might be armed unless he was drunk or have a very low IQ...
The most effective safety is when you go out with you're husband or be in a group if you're not married or do not have a boyfriend...
If other men thinks like me that you wouldn't need a thing 😄
I treat a woman as if she's my mother or sister or daughter or wife...
I hate some women especially feminists but i'll never hurt them cause they are humans with a soul after all even if they have no brains at all 🤣🤣
The only exception is that i'll hurt a woman if she tries to attack me, i don't come from these groups where they say never lay a hand on a woman naaahhhh, if she's going to attack me than i'll see her like a predator!
I can't just always go out with my husband or a group. That would be impossible
@Apple1996 true i agree, well in this case it depends on where you live and how the people were raised there, is it a safe region or not...
You see i'll never know why a woman must suffer like that, a woman should feel safe when she goes out alone and the men in the neighborhood who knows her should protect her and assure that she will be back home safe!
I have a lot of respect for married women especially housewives, the girl should go out shopping happily and return back home safe and happy to her kids!
Or she can take her kids with her so they all have fun together and she should never worry about any danger, that's what real men provide for a woman!
I live in a dangerous town. Just how it is. I'll be moving soon but that area is not much better. I can't control where I live cuz of my husband's job they just put us wherever they need us
Too bad, you know it ain't good for your husband too cause he will be at work but his mind is with you and his kids at home all the time!
A man should go out to work with a comfortable mind knowing that his wife and kids are safe and happy and that nothing wrong is going to happen to them!
You know it all goes back to the mentality of the person and not only the laws!
Imagine if there was no law where you live, should they rape you, hurt you and kill you? Ofc not!
Personally my laws are in my mind, with and without laws a girl will always be safe with me and feel very comfortable, not only women but everyone else!
I can never hurt an innocent person and i never use my power as a man to destroy a woman because a woman lives her entire life giving all her heart and all herself to a man...
A man should love a woman the way she loves him and take care of her the way she takes care of him and to be there for her whenever she feels sick or emotionally broken!
If you have the training, a bobby pin can be weaponized. A tool is only as useful as the person's training to use it.
If she's trained and practices to use them, they're useful.
If she's trained and doesn't practice, they're less useful.
If she's not trained at all, they're useless.
Self defense is a skill closely related to combat. Training is a must. Practice is more effective.
No I don't think those are very good at all you're a woman you're a woman you're much smaller if a man attacks you you need a gun you should definitely go and get your carry permit. I was just watching this show about how sex trafficking is on the rise in America
It has been for the last 10 years. Frantz Beasley is my hero, for the walk he is doing across the country right now, to the Statue of Liberty... I'm hoping to join him for a few days next month.
https://www.facebook.com/respectourdaughtersaz/
I have no idea who he or she is
Now you do, he is walking from Los Angeles to the Statue of liberty to bring awareness to human trafficking and murdered and missing women, with a focus on Natives, Latina's and Black women as they are a huge percentage of the human trafficking victims.
So what are we waiting for why are we not walking with him
Probably fairly useless, go back to packing heat. I do it everyday and I'm not a female. Too many nut jobs out here
For sure lots of crazies around here
I don't know where around here is but you could be in the middle of nowhere and encounter some nut job or some fucking idiot that has road rage for no reason. I have a 45 caliber with me at all times. Being a truck driver I experience a lot of people losing their shit on the highway. Road rage is pretty common
Yeah just last week someone got shot cuz of road rage here
A firearm is probably your best and safest bet. The kitty rings and brass knuckles will work but only if you’re skilled enough to use them. The stun gun isn’t reliable but it can be effective if it works correctly.
Stun guns don't even hurt. I've used mine on myself lol
You can’t use it on yourself. You won’t feel anything if you stun yourself. It’s just like how you can’t tickle yourself. 🤣
I also did it to my husband and nothing
Possibly wasn't charged enough
Oh no. You’re lucky it didn’t start working when you tried it on him. 🤣
It left a burn type of a mark but that's it. I also got a cheap one off Amazon so might just be bad. Not sure bit doesn't seem reliable
Oh I can imagine all the one star reviews on Amazon for a self defense product that doesn’t work
I believe that it had good reviews. I got it years ago so can't remember that great
Maybe, but there's always the concern that if it's legalized and made accessible that it will also be misused/abused. Imagine a woman hitting a man square across the jaw with brass knuckles because she was rejected or didn't like what he said, or because she *thought* he was about to do something but was being paranoid. Women have every right to defend themselves, but I don't believe their means of defense can be made as powerful as possible. There's also the fact that most women will still not have an upper hand if faced with a muscular or multiple assailants.
most men wouldn't have the upper hand either, yea, it sucks that we’re weaker, i fucking hate it, but most men aren't meaty muscle monsters, fighting isn't as easy as it seems for the opposite sex
Actually i'd say carry them all !!
they'd look perfect with Pamela Anderson's barbed wire costume
Better than nothing. It's unrelated somewhat, but my mum used to work at a school: during one of their school shooter drills, one of the other teachers freaked out and threw her keys (and this wasn't some dinky ring of 1 or 2 keys: this was some BIG, beefy ring of keys). Gave the cop roleplaying the school shooter a NASTY jagged Frankenstein-like scar across the side of his head!
After that, they had to tell staff NOT to throw their keys.
I’d say the tools that are not dependent on physical strength, such as stunguns or chemical spray would probably be more effective, but ultimately I still have to go with Samuel Colt on this one.
Me, a coworker, Remington, Smith and Wesson once convinced a man to sit down and patiently wait ten minutes for the Atlanta police to arrest him.
@MikeInHawaii mr Smith and mr Wesson and mr Springfield and I get along famously. Well done with that convincing job!
It’s more peaceful, too. I believe in peace through superior firepower. Present a thief with overwhelming force and he won’t put up a fight.
@MikeInHawaii Most petty criminals are cowardly opportunist, just like most predators in nature. How many predators attack porcupines or skunks? When the prey is armed the predator thinks twice.
As the saying goes however the dumb criminals get arrested the smart ones get elected.
I’m using that quote!
No, a woman with these will probably just piss off whoever is confronting her, and increase the danger. Better to have a flashlight, pepper spray and a loud siren, and use them if/when confronted... and run away from the attacker.
There is a alarm on the keychain. It is extremely loud
Yes. Today many incidents happen way too much that make women feel unsafe. I was stalked by a coworker at my job who wouldn’t take a hint I wasn’t interested in him so I always carry my self defense weapons whenever I leave the house.
Gun, Knife or pepper spray but still need to be aware of your surroundings paying attention.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLr9w0uxRdNyvdcEFL7M8WMsVgovYlxnB3 :Big playlist of women self defense videos from active self protection guy
Be careful in some places it's illegal to posses them and if you use them for self defence you'll get in legal trouble. Also if you're not used to handle them, especially in a situation under pressure the questions is how useful they'll be. Especially things like brass knuckles require that you get in the face of your opponent what can be potentially dangerous for you yourself.
my brother is a cop. he cleans up murder scenes every day where a women thinks anything less then a gun will save them.
Don't think it's just women. Men think that too. It's more likely for a man to become a victim them a woman but I still want to stay safe
Unless you live or work somewhere that firearms can't be carried concealed, these are all a waste of time. The stun gun is a hesitant maybe, but still an inferior choice to a compact or subcompact handgun (and range time).
If your life is in danger, then being less-than-lethal is the least of your worries.
They can be if they know how to use them probably and actually practiced on how to defend themselves with such weapons. It won't do them any good if they panic or are too scared to fight back. Best thing to do is get in defense class first if you feel like you're the type of person to freeze when caught in danger.
Prevention, knowing your surroundings, and some common sense are by far the best defense. Everything else is for emergencies. The things you mentioned could actually make it worse. Even a gun is not completely reliable, and the things you mentioned are far less reliable.
That doesn't mean to not carry them. But they are emergency only. If you ever need to use those things, rely on the shock factor to give you time to escape. Don't rely on the injury.