What do you think about teachers who come out as trans or gay to their students?

[Anonymous]

[BeMuse]

The only time sexual conversations should occur in a classroom is during sex education which typically occurs in middle and high school in science classes for a couple weeks. Teachers responsible for education students on the subject should stay professional and stick to the content, not make it about themselves. If students ask about your sex life, saying something like I'm married and have three child and am pro-life, me and my girlfriend use birth control a mix of condoms and the pill to ensure we don't have a baby until we are ready to settle down, I'm gay so me and my partner don't worry about birth control but use condoms or whatever to promote safe sex that seems fine. Beyond general conversation that helps the kids relate to the content that you are trying to teach, there is no room to discuss your sex life in a classroom. Gay people that come out to their class and put fag flags all over their room are unprofessional and are actively recruiting, which makes them groomers/sexual predators.

[BeMuse]

*educating

[WhiteSteve]

What teacher “comes out” to their students? I think that’s usually reserved for a family member or a close friend.

For students to simply be aware that a teacher is gay or trans or whatever, that shouldn’t be treated any differently than if they happened to reveal that they were in a heterosexual relationship of some sort.

Being heterosexual is not superior or more correct than being homosexual, not being trans isn’t superior or more correct than being trans, so I’m not exactly sure why we’d treat any of this differently and ostracize people into having to hide who they are, or make it acceptable for one group to share or disclose anything about their personal life, as long as it’s not sexual details that no one should be hearing about anyone.

But bottom line: if you’re a teacher and you happen to be gay, you shouldn’t have to keep that a guarded secret. I had female teachers growing up who would reference their husbands and their family lives outside of school, and that was just fine. To suggest that you can’t do the same if your spouse or partner is the same sex as you are is simply ignorant, hateful, and a “you”-problem if you find that to be inappropriate.

[WhiteSteve]

*or make it acceptable for one group to share or disclose anything about their personal life

[WhiteSteve]

What in the world🤦‍♂️😂

*or make it UNacceptable for one group to share or disclose anything about their personal life

[Anonymous]

I think that most of the time, we don’t consider it “coming out” at all. We’re just answering questions.


I have no problem with teachers to choose to bring it up, by the way, in an age appropriate way. But most of the time that’s not what happens.


I’m bi, and I’m a teacher. My students don’t know, because I haven’t told them. But when they ask me if I’m married, and I tell them no, their next question is if I have a boyfriend. Now I’m currently dating a dude, but if I were dating a girl, I think that I should be able say so.


Also, to those who say that that would confuse them, I have several students with two moms, or two dads. And they are just like everyone else. And when they tell their friends about their families, their friends aren’t confused either. Because they’re kids. They don’t care.

[sage2021]

Is the child's age taken into consideration when they expect a five year old what a trans person is? I am curious what words th teacher uses when telling little children about their sexual weirdness. When I was a young girl, I wouldn't have wanted to know about nasty shit like that. Don't the children have a choice to know or choose to not know? I couldn't wrap my head around something so gross when I was a child.
LEAVE OUR KIDS OUT OF YOUR SICK SEX LIVES! I hope you end up in hell for opening your big mouths to God's children!!

[ethanallen]

Whoah!!! Sage2021 tell us what you really think.

[sage2021]

@ethanallen I have always admitted I am a direct person.
A straight shooter. I don't hold back, and I guess you noticed that about me 😎

[ethanallen]

I'll bet you are a Sarah Palin supporter.

[sage2021]

@ethanallen I know nothing about Sarah Palin except for ears ago she was going to be president or vice president as a running mate. I don't go on soy media except for GaG, and I never hear about her in the news. I rest my case 🧸

[sage2021]

@ethanallen
Corrections

Not ears ago
Years ago

Not soy media
Social media

[OlderAndWiser]

They should immediately be fired and become ineligible to ever again teach minors.

[Sixgunsound]

How has this been done successfully in the modern age of discrimination lawsuit threats? Please share your wisdom and experience with the rest of the class.

[SecretsofKB]

So even just the mention of their partner without teaching about being gay should result in this?

[Sixgunsound]

@SecretsofKB teachers sexuality has no place in any board approved lesson plans or state standards for curriculum development. This applies equally to heterosexual and homosexual teachers.

[SecretsofKB]

@Sixgunsound I understand that. My question was if the teacher was gay and mentioned their husband or wife in passing. Not a designed lesson on their sexuality. I wouldn't want that in the classroom.

[Sixgunsound]

@SecretsofKB and my answer remains the same, the teachers personal lives have no place in the classroom. Did you notice that I said it applies to all relationship? I don’t give anybody a pass for talking about their personal lives to their students. It’s just not relevant, and where it isn’t already illegal, should be.

[SecretsofKB]

@Sixgunsound Okay. Makes sense enough to me.

[OlderAndWiser]

@Sixgunsound Concur with your explanation!

[MCheetah]

@OlderAndWiser
Fully agree. These people are f*cked up. Not all of us teachers are like this.

[Smashingdoozy]

I don't care. Teachers talk about their partners all the time. They talk about their families. Why should it be any different for same sex couples?

I don't think a teacher needs to come out as trans unless they are in the process of transitioning in that moment then they should obviously explain to their students what's going on and what to expect. If they have already transitioned its up to them to decide if they want to tell the students or not.

But either way kids talk and rumours will swirl

[Crafteroon]

It's their right to be who they are. And it's better for the teacher to explain (and as teachers they know the correct level of details to tell to children of that age) that there are people who have partners of the same sex and there is nothing wrong with that between consenting adults.

You don't want them to learn misinformation from those that lack the knowledge, or have prejudices, or were forced to hide their own homosexuality and now repress it by getting angry about it. Spreading ignorance is how you get Republicans, you don't want that to happen.

[hostboy__fastestlaps]

I was just reading these responses mostly agreeing that a gay teacher should have basically the same voice as a straight teacher. I literally left the GOP more than a week ago and it made me a much better person.

[Sixgunsound]

Teachers talking about sexuality with minors, especially minors who are placed with them in a position of public trust, is not only immoral, but codified illegal. There are very specific circumstances under which adults in a school setting are allowed to discuss sex or size or sex related issues with minors, mostly in healthcare settings, specified sex ed classes, and public safety investigations. While there may be a public safety investigation after a teacher initiates a sexual discussion with a student or students, said initiation does not meet any of the above named requirements for legitimacy. As such, there is no reason a teacher should be discussing their sexuality with their students. If you would hypocritically condemn a straight teacher bragging to their class about their tinder hookups or smashing that cute new teacher down the hall during lunch break, then you understand why discussing gay relationships with students is also unacceptable.

[Kaneki05]

Why on earth would a teacher tell a kid that they sleep with men and find men sexy. Nvm if that kid is a guy himself I bet that would lead to some sexual harassment for sure.
Whether straight or not you don't discuss your sex life or sexual interests with your students so there would be no reason to bring up who you like to sleep with.

As for trans well students do need to know if it's Ms or Mr when it comes to teachers. Otherwise how else do you say Mr/Ms needle asked for me to grab this letter etc. Though everyone could just say Needle asked.

[BlueScorpio]

Not sure how annoucing your sexuality is going to help kids learn their homework better but... okay. I mean, I personally would not care to know what sex any teacher is attracted to or not. Kids really have no business knowing your bedroom choices, as kids grow up they eventually will understand what straight and gay is without someone feed it to them. None of my teachers did this when i was in school growing up, so i just find this to be odd and unnecessary.

[Smoke-n-Growls]

I think it's great.

Kids need role models and gay people exist. Knowing about homosexuality especially during formative years will help kids know it's okay.

My gay teachers were some of my favorites and were pillars of our school.

It's better for kids to know the wide variety of people in the world than to grow up sheltered and end up confused when they meet an openly gay person at 20. Things don't typically turn out well for kids that ill-prepared.

[Anonymous]

On the matter of being gay: I think it's incredibly unprofessional depending on the ages of the students. If it's young children between grade K and 6, that's weird. I don't think that anyone should be discussing a sexual orientation with a young child because it, in my eyes, is grooming like behavior. Why would you want a small 5yo boy to know that you like guys? Why would you discuss anything about your sexual preference to a child to begin with? Stick to the curriculum, not your bedroom preference. It absolutely creeps me out that a teacher would tell a small child anything about their sex life/sexual preference.

If you're trans and want to tell the kids, that's a bit different. That's gender identity, not sexual preferences.

[Snsl153]

If I were a student in one of those classes where the teacher "came out", I'd tell him or her to tell someone who actually gives a damn about it. I don't care who you sleep with; what I care about is whether or not you can actually do the job you're paid to do, whether you're qualified enough, and whether or not what you teach actually has worth and isn't just ideological nonsense.

[Breanna_nonbinary]

It should be kept out of the classroom. After all teachers shouldn’t be teaching our kids tolerance, or self acceptance. That sort of thing should be kept to being learned at home. Can you imagine schools teaching our kids diversity. What the fuck is wrong with schools these days?

[Guy__]

I strongly disagree. We need diversity and freedom. I'd even vote for cenk uygur if it was an option. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlqHZxpSxUw

[Breanna_nonbinary]

Sarcasm.

[MCheetah]

I think they should leave their BS to themselves and stop trying to brainwash their f*cking goddamn students! I'm a teacher myself and I can't stand this indoctrination BS! These people should be fired for pushing sexuality onto children. You are there to teach from a book, not push your f*cked up beliefs onto people simply because you can't have kids.

[Guanfei]

That they should shut the fuck up.

At which point do you consider that an adult, a teacher on top of that, has to talk about his sexuality to his student? When is it relevant in their education?

A teacher is here to teach. Anything beside is unnecessary, and some things, like this one, is unwelcomed. It's his private life and it should stay private.

What's next, he's going to film himself get rammed and show it to the kids?

LGBT are really starting to think they're allowed to do anything, and when it comes to kids, it's getting really creepy.

[JustADudePlayinADude]

I don't care if they come out, so long as they don't try to force their ideology on my kid. If my kid comes out as gay or trans on their own, it is fine. But I don't like these teachers that are basically indoctrinating my kid on how to live their life. That is my job as a parent. Your job is to teach them math, science, history, and literature.

[BUTIMRIGHTTHO]

So you think it's fine for teachers to go around telling their students about their sexuality? You dont see how irrelevant that is to school?

[JustADudePlayinADude]

As much as I don't care if a teacher mentions they have a husband/wife, are pregnant, or Christian. As long as you aren't using your sexuality or personal life to influence how my child lives their life, IDC. Mentioning sexuality is not the same thing as teaching it.

[sheikalana]

I think teachers should keep things professional and avoid mentioning details of their private life. When I was a teen my teachers never used to speak about their private lives I did not even know if they were married or had kids. Why would a teacher mention their sexual orientation what difference does it make? I don' get it. I believe that people should be free to choose who they love but mixing your private life with your job is just unprofessional.

[Smashingdoozy]

The best teachers I had were the ones who did talk about their private lives. They treated us students as coworkers. I still remember the day my favorite teacher had this huge smile on his face as he sat at the front of the class waiting for everyone to come in. He said "right I have some news to share" we all sat there excitedly because he was so excited. He announced that his wife was pregnant so he was going to be a dad. We all cheered for him.

Another time a different favorite teacher walked into the class hands behind her back grinning eat to ear, then showed her hand with a beautiful engagement ring. We cheered. We screamed.

I learned the most from these teachers. I still to this day walk around naming fucking columns and talking about Greek mythology. I still do the dances and breathing exercises they taught me. Heck we're friends on social media and have catch ups occasionally.

[Snsl153]

Exactly, it's just so unnecessary. What really matters is whether or not the teacher in question is actually good at their job, not who they have sex with.

[sheikalana]

@Snsl153 I agree!

[Staximus]

A teachers sex life has no place in the classroom and it's none of the student's business. Any teacher that makes their sex life the student's business should be fired immediately, unless they are teaching a college human sexuality class and using themselves as an example or something like that

[snowboarder720]

Being openly gay has nothing to do with sex. It’s the very same as a straight teacher mentioning their husband/wife.

[Staximus]

@snowboarder720 who you fuck is none if the students business, dipshit

[snowboarder720]

Oh my bad, didn’t mean to hurt your feelings for you to start insults.

[Avicenna]

That is not something that has any place in the classroom, because it has nothing to do with what's being taught. Teachers shouldn't discuss their personal stuff with students.

[Julie4]

I think it would be a professional mistake if a teacher talked about this, his private life should remain private.


The problem is not the fact that he is gay, bi, transgender etc.




But a teacher has to teach what is stated in the curriculum in that sense his private life is none of our business.


I would feel exactly the same way if the teacher in question were to talk about his life as a heterosexual.

[Oliviaarkansas]

normally i think we know way b4 they tell us lol.. we had one guy teacher that got up and told us all and he was all crying and everthing and we were like "ok. so ur saying we were not supposed to have figured that out already" lol.

oly way its not cool i think is if they push it hard. one female teacher woudl say stuff aobut how beign with girls was so much better etc and have we thought of girls.

[Bluemax]

If it comes out in the course of normal conversation, I have no problem with it. My wife showed up to my work on occasion and vice versa. She told her class that she was marrying me and they knew me. If we could talk about our heterosexual marriage, then why can't homosexuals?

That being said, the fine details of our married life remained private. So too should it be with homosexuals.

[ProVox]

The same as I would if a straight person came out and told students their sexual preference. I'd be at the school the next day to address it. No place in the school for that, and no one gaf about who you sleep with regardless of the two genders you choose.