More moderate politicians are usually better when it comes to compromise and doing something that will be more effective for the majority. Joe Manchin is a hero for preventing the original Build Back Better package from going through. The country would be in an even worse condition if it did go through. The reason Liz Cheney is gonna lose is because she is focusing on destroying Trump instead of what she wants to do campaign-wise. She doesn't care about what she's supposed to. Why vote for someone who shows no interest in doing what they are running for? She is just a devil looking to destroy Trump and nothing else. The majority is not interested in that.
No he shouldn't. At least not to the extent democrats have been trying since 2016.
The documentary? No, I don't watch biased documentaries. Especially in politics. You never know what is true and what is not because everything is so divisive these days. A documentary from a conservative perspective should be made to balance the series.
Oh, you mean supporters within congress and other political areas? There will always be supporters and opponents. Nothing special or unique here. People go where the money is.
You're going to be flummoxed by everything in politics as long as you see it through a naive far left lens. Read what you posted. Does it make sense? No. Since when do Democrats compromise on anything?
The real fault line in politics is the Establishment v. the People. Ever notice how execrable the establishment of both parties is and how they cooperate with each other as a cartel to destroy political pluralism as they loot the country?
That's why the Establishment is so hell bent on destroying Trump. They know they are outnumbered by ordinary people, so they do everything they can to prevent the rise of a political movement of multiracial coalition of ordinary people.
Putatively moderate politicians (generally Senators) pose that way so they can extract things from the part leadership. Works perfectly in a 50-50 Senate (see Joe Manchin).
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Because there is no compromising with people who hate you, democrats hate republicans they try to jail us. They try paint the politicians we like and appreciate as evil Nazis or bigot they come for our children if we don’t want to trans them. There is no room for compromise this is why people like Liz Chaney and mick Romney need to go, The time for giving in is over it’s the constitution way or the high way. by the way the founders would never have let the federal government get this powerful they would have destroyed there own creation under Wilson maybe under teddy for creating the FDA in the first place. They would have thought the creation FDA would have gone way way to far has far as what the federal government is allowed to do.
@goaded democrats are more likely to commit crimes then republicans are, Example Hunter Biden has filmed himself weighing out 2 ounces of crack cocaine and has admitted to illegal business on tape in front of a prostitute. You don’t see anyone raiding his house or coming after him. Yet say Eric Trump did the same thing you know Eric trump would be in prison right now. But hunter isn’t in prison right now why is that? Do we have a tear them in the United States that is designed to go after one political party but is not going to go after the other because that’s kind of what it seems like why isn’t Hillary Clinton in jail when she had active classified information which she did not have the right to declassified on a private server which god tact and very likely ended up with the deaths of to field agent? Why isn’t Hillary Clinton in prison? maybe Trump should have it locked her up if we don’t live in a two-tiered justice system.
So you have two cherry picked anecdotes to prove that "democrats are more likely to commit crimes then republicans are,"? Great.
When was Hunter measuring that substance? More than five years ago? Statute of limitations. Clinton was investigated and they found a couple pieces of (mislabelled, iirc) classified information in her e-mail, not enough to charge her with. Trump took boxes of documents including some classified to the highest possible level home with him and refused to give them back (and had his lawyer lie that they had all been given back). I expect you're also upset about the Trumps using all sorts of unofficial communication channels, and the "accidental" loss of secret service communications from Jan 6th.
(I note your use of the rather pathetic "active" supposed distinction, and your lie about the server having been hacked, not to mention the outrageous lie that it "very likely ended up with the deaths of [a] field agent". Who?)
@Juxtapose At the time they were sent or received, or afterwards? What about the claim it was successfully hacked which caused the death of a field agent? Any proof of that? (What was the name of the agent Dick Cheyney doxxed?)
@Juxtapose Of course you "don't care", because it's either against what you want to believe, or shows that you're being completely hypocritical about demanding equal treatment (which is what they actually get, except Republican politicians are more likely to turn a blind eye to crimes committed by their side than Democrats). The head of the FBI is still a Trump appointee, by the way.
@goaded the Jan 6 committee is a political hit job committee. Ffs look at this (42 seconds)
youtube.com/.../Ugkx6ZA4Vtvc0PI88_KghZmIpdcWz-Bvp3T8
@Juxtapose Head of the FBI: Trump appointee. No comment? Of course not.
Are you saying Tim Pool isn't a far right media personality? Does he show the context of the clip where he's telling his audience that Trump is calling for his supporters to "descend on Washington DC January 6th."? No? Wouldn't that be easy, if he was simply reading out a news report? Did he in any way discourage people from going or say that it was a terrible idea? He might have been the least enthusiastic than Alex Jones and Salty Cracker, but he sure as hell was spreading the call.
At the very most, they misinterpreted his statements, they weren't lying about him.
Here's what the committee said:
"Meanwhile, other key Trump supporters, including far right media personalities, began promoting the wild protest on January 6th. [Begin videotape]
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TIM POOL: And now Donald Trump is calling on his supporters to descend on Washington DC January 6th."
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TIM POOL: This could be Trump's last stand. And it's a time when he has specifically called on his supporters to arrive in DC. That's something that may actually be the big push Trump supporters need to say this is it. It's now or never.
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TIM POOL: On that day, Trump says show up for a protest. It's gonna be wild. And based on what we've already seen from the previous events, I think Trump is absolutely correct."
@goaded Trump chose poorly obviously, I don't know why that deserves recognition. If anything it shows that Trump chose somebody who's not an ass kisser so..
Tim Pool a moderate, calling him a right winger is disingenuous.
Sounds like at worse he's encouraging a protest which is an American's patriotic duty.
@Juxtapose I thought Trump only chose the best?
No, calling Tim Pool a moderate is disingenuous, he spent the whole election period propping up Trump and defending the Proud Boys.
"Sounds like at worse he's encouraging a protest which is an American's patriotic duty."
Not if the protest is based on a lie, and not when it's an armed attack on the government performing its duty.
@goaded actually Tim pool is more of a right wing libertarian then far right, But of course at this point centricity is dead in this country. The few that remain like Mick Romney needs to go, just like Joe Manchin and Krysten Sinema are failures for the left Mick Romney and Liz Chaney are failures as republicans. Democrats need to purge there centrist from congress and elect AOC Bernie sanders types and we need to elect Ted Cruz Ron DeSantis types. Even Mitch McConnell needs to go.
@goaded The reason why Hillary Clinton and Dick Cheney wasn’t locked up is because of there positions and what it would have done to this country. Remember Dick Chaney shot someone on a hunting trip. If me or you did that we would probably still be in prison if not just getting out for criminal negligence with a fire arm he didn’t because he was the Vice President at the time. Hillary Clinton same thing if she was John Doe state department worker she would have been locked up for her emails being leaked Hillary Clinton was the secretary of State and she was running for president so she wasn’t locked up.
The idea that no one is above the law is a nice one, but in every society form the dawn of civilization has had people who are above the law, They can get away with anything so people have to be above the law or the society collapses. So it doesn’t matter if Hillary Clinton or trump murder peasant on fifth Avenue both these figures are above the law and very clearly there families are above the law. No one is going to touch hunter Biden because he’s father is the president and was the Vice President hunter Biden is above the law. This has been going on for a long time Senator Edward “Ted” Kennedy drove off a bridge and murdered a women he had gotten president back in 1969 if he was your average citizen he would have been rotting in jail. But he was Ted Kennedy The younger brother of JFK so he didn’t go to jail he didn’t take any punishment. So yes we like all nations that have ever existed have a small group of people probably a couple thousand that are above the law. I’m on above a law you’re not above the Trump is about the law Biden is above the law Clinton is above the law the bush’s are above the law the Cheney’s are above the law that’s just how governments work. If you don’t want anybody above the lock then you have to get rid of government you have no choice by the way do you have to except that some people are going to be above the law.
So even you agree than Tim Pool is no kind of moderate.
Manchin and Sinema vote against their party's platform. What you need are people who are open to reason, not people who will vote for a popular bipartisan bill one month, against it the next, out of spite, then finally for it again. The question should be "will this bill be good for my constituents", not "which side proposed this bill".
@goaded I wouldn’t say tim pool a moderate but he’s not far right. He’s just right of center,
As far as whether or not a bill would be good for their constituents or not Joe Manchin just voted for a Bill misnamed The inflation reduction act that will destroy the economic likelihood of all West Virginians there are only 3 decent type of jobs in West Virginia fracking oil drilling and farming, So by voting for the inflation reduction act which is pretty much a climate bill that make the IRS larger then. The British army and doesn’t nothing more then give handouts and Government subsidies to there big green energy donors. What good for republicans states is horrible for blue states and what’s good for blue states is horrible for red states. This is why we need partisanship not bipartisanship don’t you get it red states and blue states are way way way almost completely different countries different which is why we need partisanship on the federal level leave bipartisanship to the state, the states is where compromise and agreements needs to happen not on the federal government there should be no compromise on the federal level
If you're still supporting Trump at this point, with all the evidence that he tried to steal the presidency, you're far right.
As for West Virginians, I expect most of them preferred it when they could drink their tap water, or at least use it for washing.
Are you against the government being able to collect the taxes it's owed? Funding the IRS brings in more than it costs, and properly funding it gives it the clout to go after sophisticated tax cheats.
Affordable health care is good for every American (which is why Trump lied about wanting to provide it in 2016), independent of their politics. So are civil rights. Taxing the rich is also popular in every state.
@goaded I never said Trump did choose the best. Remember, I have never voted for Trump.
Tim Pool is as moderate as moderate can get. He's with people like Jimmy Dore and Glenn Greenwald who know that Joe Biden and friends are not good for the left. This wokeness in the left is not good for the left either, we need a return to the classical left.
The only person killed during that protest was a protestor and that was by a cop. The law enforcement stationed let the protesters in the building mind you and I don't believe it was formed on a lie at all. If Joe Biden gets more of the black vote than Obama and gets more votes than any other presidential candidate in human history while being someone able to draw a crowd..
Yeah man, it's going to be fucking suspicious.
@Juxtapose Trump claimed he only chooses the best, though, didn't he? It's as true as his claims to have won the election. (How many of his minions were convicted of crimes, again?)
None of those people are moderates any more, they've all worked out where the money is, and it's not being moderate to support election lies. Jimmy "what harm could Trump do?" Dore needs to make an apology for his stupidity.
Your ability to deny reality leads you to believe the lies. Seriously, if the police let them in (and weren't there investigations into the few who appeared to be on the side of the rioters), why were 140 injured?
Biden got more votes than Trump (and Obama) for not being Trump. He's not a narcissistic serial liar, he's not going to be impeached once, let alone twice, unless on completely made-up grounds, he's not going to destroy the reputation of the country in the international community or green-light an invasion of American allies, he's not going to steal state secrets, and he's generally competent. Why can't you understand why a majority of Americans prefer someone like that?
@goaded there any less space at the best solution to all of our problems is to just get rid of government. No more trump vs Biden no more right vs left humans are incredible of running a government, government sucks and fails are everything it does The best thing to do would just be to get Rid of all governments. There may be more individual fighting but that’s better then having a group of ass holes controlling everyone Else’s lives
@goaded I starting to get there, At the very least I think we need to be incredibly authoritarian when it comes to members of government. Like if they lie to the American people they spend the rest of there lives and a maximum security prison for the rest of their lives, if the American people can’t lie to the government they shouldn’t be allowed to lie to us. While we’re libertarian for regular people who aren’t politicians. That doesn’t include politicians on their off time playing poker because you have to lie in poker.( 2 of our city Councilmembers play poker and I kick their ass all the time)
@goaded yup and Obama would be in prison when he said when we implement Obama care you would be able to keep your doctors. AOC would be in prison for saying the earth in going to end in 12 years if we don’t do something about climate change now. Al gore would be in prison for saying New York would be underwater back 2015. Basically ever politician in the world would be in prison for life.
@goaded I’ve noticed that a lot of liberals are blaming climate change for everything. I’ve noticed this year it’s been much colder in the area I’ve been living in. But still you’re trying to convince me that carbon emissions hasn’t built the entire world at a property except for one continent which has gone socialist and us whites are supposedly telling them they cannot use carbon omissions which will build them below the poverty Burning elephant poop does releases more carbon emissions. So you’re basically telling 1 billion Black people that they cannot braid themselves out of poverty unless he moved to white people countries. The environmental movement is actually pretty racist when you boil it down
@goaded I’ll give you a podcast listen to the last 30 minutes and you’ll know why environmentalists are the new racist https://youtu.be/o74rQmLRqtA
Jordan Peterson? No thanks. Have you heard of "Critical Ignoring"? ↗
@goaded I did not until I read what you posted, however giving and Jorden peers potential is the amount of time he’s put into his work and the fact that he left hates him and want to see him dead or in a prison in Canada I’m pretty sure he correct in his thinking.
The argument I tried to show you was, since carbon emissions have brought more people out of property then anytime in history by white countries Incontinence telling in entire continent full of blacks people that since white have screwed up the earth throug carbon energy which got them out of poverty to begin with by telling 1 billion blacks in Africa you can’t get out of poverty with the 1 thing we know lifts people out of poverty into the middle and upper class you can’t use this fuel but here is some green energy that won’t bring Africa and Asia out of poverty but stagnant there economy which is horrible to begin with, if you really care about black lives you have to be in favor of fossil fuels and not push a green energy agenda on a entire continent where people need carbon energy the most. Remember Sri Lanka’s government was just destroyed by its people who can’t stand there government pushing green environmental policies that don’t work and just make the people poorer as a result. Green energy destroy Sri Lanka
In trump world the only moderates agree with trump totally and completely.
There are just two types of people now. Trump supporters. . .
and everyone else.
Oh, I forgot to mention.
Liz Cheney is no moderate. She is more Conservative than most trump supporters can imagine. She is more Conservative than Kevin McCarthy, Ron DeSantis, or Jim Jordan combined.
She voted with Trump over 92% of the time. This is not about political ideology. This is purely about subservience to trump.
It is incredible. She said it in her speech. She won her last election with over 70% of the vote.
She disagreed with Trump over one single issue. Voted with him over 92% of the time. And lost by almost 40%.
Because, it doesn't matter if you are a Conservative. It doesn't matter if you are the most Conservative person on this planet. If you ain't licking trump's anus, you are not a Republican.
There's nothing wrong with it. Unfortunately, Congress has become "Theatre of the Insane". Democrats are out of touch, Republicans are liars and anarchists. There's very little decency left to point to. The whole system is on the verge of collapse.
I know what you're saying exactly. Some Dems are just too weird, but some still seem to have at least a partially functioning moral compass. The only Repubs I have seen who have that are on the Jan. 6th committee. The rest of their leaders are the biggest fucking liars you can think of.
LOL Now that was funny. :-D
Liz Cheney is running based on her father but everyone remembers the invasion of Iraq and how much money her father made out of that.
Her campaign paid for with blood and oil?
That's what stalun thought up until operation barbarossa
No he was definitely wrong thinking Hitler and the nazis were his friends just because his enemies were at war with them.
He was quoted saying there will be a war with germany. He was just stupid at how fast it would come. Read the diaries of his minions and he'd keep telling them Hilter was too smart to open a second front in Russia when he's still fighitng the Brits.
Stalin was right. And stupid. History's like that.
He moved the Russian boarder right up to Germany. He helped Germany have only one front to deal with. Remember it wasn't just Germany vs Britain there was Britain, Poland, Holland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium and of course the world largest most powerful military on the planet (on paper) France. It was a major strategic error and stalin should have either stayed out and let his enemies fight it out with each other or came in on the Western allies side as they had no intention of invading Russia. Because of this Hitler would have the resources of Western mainland Europe to invade Russia in 1941.
But he wasn't keeping his country out of the war. He made a blunder and allowed his enemy to grow stronger and his enemies that were too far away to be a threat to be defeated.
Russia was a stronger industrial power than Germany not forgetting that the German army was still using horses.
Yeah of course your right. But from what i read (Court of the Red Czar is a great book by the way), he was dealing a huge agrarian country of villages with no roads. But yes because of resources and population they also had huge factory ability. But just not really organized until invaded.
And Stalin somehow had ultra high up spies who kept warning of invasion and he kept ignoring them. He was an idiot who also purged 90% of the army generals..
Even b4 theh were invaded they had more industrial capacity and was outproducing Germany. It was really the Americans and British delivery of key supplies that save them.
Stalin did have good reason to purge the leadership if he wanted to stay in control, he just over purdged. A dictator really needs to fear his/her military. Hitler was smart because he brought the military along but he also created an elite corps that rivaled the Wermarcht and acted as a counterbalance as well as the luftwaffe's paratroops. Stalin had nothing similar, Sadam had the republican guard.
I prefer the moderates because they see both sides better and are not afraid to go against their party for the greater good. Yet both sides are moving further left and right that there's few moderates left.
Brought to you by the party that calls Tulsi Gabbard a russian asset.
you are a true retard. Did Hillary smear Tulsi as a russian asset or not?
Bahahaha, again, by Hillary. Seeing a pattern? The Steele dossier has been fully debunked. But i don’t expect intelligence from you so I’m not surprised.
bahaha, rumors. Just like the rumor that Tulsi is a russian asset, the rumor that trump paid prostitutes to pee on them. You're like a gossiping woman.
Or is this like the rumor that the FBI took his passports that you folks claimed he lied about up until the DOJ returned them?
Yup. Steele dossier has been wholly debunked, Tulsi is not a russian asset, and the FBI did take his passports. So 3for3.
@USLegionary don’t forget swalwell who was boning a chinese spy.
Have a nice glass of soymilk and google search it yourself.
I just fucked your wife last week, remember I bought you that new video game for your xbox so you'd have something to do?
whoops, sorry I got you the wrong game. You seemed content with the crayons, though. At least you stopped watching and jerking off in the corner... that was creepy
That's not a nice way to talk about your wife. If she's that ugly I couldn't tell the differnence, that's pretty bad.
She a Trump hater and lost her bid on Trump voters a taste to come at midterms soon
It was Jenny was more Democrat than she was a Republican. RINO
Joe should go for walk.
We want change so we change and we vote the wrong person into the position. Then we start crying bitching & moaning. So if we're not happy why don't we run. Do you think we could do better. Maybe
Liz Cheney might run what do you think of that.
She's just as corrupt as her father and you idiots are too blind to see it.
More like the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
We aren't talking about Trump, free renter.
Liz Cheney is a known R. I. N. O.
Bernie and Trump > pos centrists
let's cheer the MAGA crowd and destroy the two biological genders for once and for all again! THIS TIME WE WILL HAVE TRUMP JUNIOR AND AOC ON ONE PARTICULAR TICKET!!! bipartisanism for the win for RADICAL reasons muthafugga
there will soon be a LAW stating that black people ARE NOT allowed to be straight. not from the words of my mouth, those were aoc's words
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