Because once upon a time it used to be about equality for women. Now it’s more about being superior to men. Wtf happened here? It’s gone from being something amazing to the very thing it sort to fight against. Inequality. No sex should lord it over the other. We should be equal in society.
Whenever a movement becomes mainstream, widely supported, and promoted by mainstream media, you have to think about how that movement benefits the ruling class, because anything that doesn’t benefit them will be attacked in the media and shut down. They control our education and media after all.
If something is widely accepted it’s because they allow and even encourage it to be, because it benefits them in some way. All they care about is increasing their wealth and their power.
The main reason that the ruling class support feminism is because the biggest threat to them and their power is strong men. If they weaken the men they gain more power.
Women are more agreeable, more easily influenced by the mainstream, more likely to trust authority figures. No need to try to weaken the men directly when it’s easier to influence women, and when they’ll do it for you.
I’m not a Christian but still, there’s wisdom in the Bible. It goes right back to the story of Adam and Eve. All that the devil had to do to lead them to disobey God’s rules was to convince Eve, and then she convinced Adam, and then everything was fucked.
It happens with most labels. Once you call something an -ism, and people start to call themselves or those opposing them an -ism, the most extreme versions usually become the stardard version of it.
Feminism is great, the problem is that a significant portion who call themselves a feminist often have more extreme views on the matter, and instead staying in their sub-group of "penises suck" and calling themselves as "penis-suckers", they call themselves feminists instead, because their sub-group is too hate-filled to garner proper support.
Look how Republicans turned from "less government oversight" into "less taxes to companies" (because they give us money), and vote for me because I claim to hate everyone who isn't you while I take more rights from you so that you stay dumb enough to vote for me. They used to be the extreme members, now they're sadly the norm.
BBW is Big Beautiful Woman. Calling someone that is often more okay than someone calling themselves as BBW. Because those who call themselves BBW are often closer to OBW, Obese Big Woman. It's their right to danger their own health by being medically obese, but it does distort what BBW was originally about. Now it's less about having a few extra curves and pounds, and closer to being Gilbert Grape's mother.
But you can't call someone out for distorting how a certain label is seen by others, saying someone is not a real feminist is the fast track to being called against feminism. A white guy can't address this issue without becoming a target. It needs to be done by women. And until they address the behavior of the more extreme members, their label is slowly moving towards what the extreme members want.
Yes, the name "penises suck" is made in jest, no need to get upset. But you all know the type I mean when I call them that.
I don’t believe in feminism. Point being, there are always going to be things men can do that women can’t ! Men are stronger, not saying superior over us, because after all we are the ones who go through childbirth. But after watching the pain my dad went through passing a kidney stone.. I’m kind of thinking that may be worse! I had kidney stones and it was far worse than giving birth! I do believe in equal rights tho 🤷🏻♀️
But that’s the point of feminism. Equal rights. It’s not about biological differences it’s about have equal standings in society.
Well I definitely believe society should see us as equals!
"Feminism" was about just that - equality under the law. It's never, ever been about who's physically stronger. As to attitudes of superiority, that can't be fixed by any laws or movement. Some men will always think that way, but that was never the intention of "equal rights laws". The term feminism got hijacked by various different women along the way, and it's still being perverted today.
In my opinion, it was an unfortunate term to start out with in the first place, just the way that "defund the police" is.
Feminism fucked up when it started looking to men for permission for everything, which of course didn’t the response they wanted and made them angry.
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I disagree with your view. Feminism is still about equal opportunities and equal rights. I don't see claims of superiority. What I see is more open criticism of the shortcomings of ages of male-dominated culture. Reaction to men being represented as superior and saviors, showing all the instances when it's not true. This is a necessary step, because young people are now understanding that most of our films, novels, even history, is loaded with lies to make men look good. We need to reset our point of view.
Sorry, not anymore. It went to the "3rd Wave" man-hating madness you see now. Any positive associations of feminism *ended* with the "Second Wave" of 50 to 60 odd years ago.
It went to the "3rd Wave" madness you see now. Any positive associations of feminism *ended* with the "Second Wave" of 50 to 60 odd years ago. And "the manosphere" arose as a backlash against it. A brief internet lecture attached. I don't agree with the author's conclusions and judgments, but he does outline the history well:
It became a man hating machine, sexist, discriminatory, misandrist. It wants supremacy, not equality.
A very fitting quote I've heard, "feminism isn't for women, it's against men".
And they won't mind sacrificing anything, even other women, to get what they want, power over society and men in a leash.
Power corrupts as the saying goes. Women should support men more as men support women. We are all humans trying to live our best lives. Fuck this superiority bull shite! Equal societal standing.
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Well in a nutshell it's shifted from equal opportunity to equal outcome.
They want equal pay for inequal work, like a teacher , daycare employee or nurse that work a normal 40 hours a week and get to go home every night should get payed the same as a guy on an oil deric in the ocean or crab fisher like deadliest catch, both of which are stuck at sea for months a time busting ass in horse conditions with risk of drawing at sea.
m Feminism has never ever one thing and just one thing in particular... there's always many and very different groups of interest that are pushing their own agenda, but all of the using the same tag, label or flag
and then, some just gain more notoriety than others over time, and then go out and others show up and so on... it's always been like that, lol
Feminism is akin to unions. Much needed movements with good ideas initially, but have since mutated into self-serving lunacy. Today's feminists are very fragile, very self-absorbed and lazy, especially in the area of their relationships. Like I tell young men. . you want respect? You want to be treated with dignity? You want love? Then you earn it. Same goes for young women. You want a man's sweat, his sacrifice, his love, and his devotion? Then you do something to make him wanna do all that, to show him you're worth loving and sacrificing for. Not just sit around twirling your hair expecting some guy to put a glass slipper on your foot and call you a princess just because you're a woman. And there's a lot more I could say about today's goofy feminism but I can't be bothered right now.
The "feminism" we see today is what happens to a movement when it has achieved all it's valid and achievable goals years ago and needs to find ways to stay "relevant" or die. It does that by indoctrinating girls and young women with anger and hatred for males, dividing men and women to keep men angry at women, and inventing gender issues like "manspreading" and "mansplaining".
When a movement solves its main objectives it becomes obsolete. When those gaining considerable political power and money face the prospect of losing that influence, then they must become more radical to remain relevant.
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simple, it violates the laws of man, which are just as serious as the laws of physics
men and women can't be equal, and that truth drove feminists insane. as it must.
men and women are different, unequal, each with unique skills that the other doesn't have
Why can’t be equal in society? Why should one sex have a greater or lesser standing then the other?
@StormMistress "Why can’t be equal in society? Why should one sex have a greater or lesser standing then the other?" -- Because feminists want all of the benefits without the responsibilities. That's not equality. They want to be special and above men. When women complain about a pay gap they never mention all of the guys who make less money than women on the same job. It's all about whining to get things that we can objectively show they have not earned. A good example is the WNBA players whining that they should get paid the same as men when nobody even watches the WNBA and so they don't generate anywhere near the cash as the male players. That's before you even have to talk about how they're less talented/athletic and use a shorter hoop and smaller court.
@StormMistress Also how can we be equal when we have totally different motivations and drive? We're different. If you really go down the road of giving everybody what they think they want, you end up with transgender (male to female) taking over 100% of female spaces and doing things better than women. A few feminists are smart enough to see this...
you can't be equal because things that are different are not equal, you don't even want equality, you said yourself men in charge are sexy
Equal opportunities, equal treatment in society. Your sex shouldn’t effect this things.
it should because your sex determines your skillset and wants
Only if it’s physical. Any other type of job that doesn’t require intense physical labor should be equal opportunity for men and women.
the differences between men and women are not just physical
All movements in the name of "equality" go down that path. It starts out as, "all we want is to be treated equally" but it ends up being, "we want special treatment".
Radicalization, I just mentioned it on another question, but the internet radicalizes people. If you watch a few videos on youtube, you now get recommendations about this subject and people who share that same opinion. This becomes an echo chamber and opinions become more extreme. The internet isn't the only reason why this is happening, but it's definitely a big one.
The women's suffrage movement was about gaining basic rights that gave women equal opportunity. Feminism which came later has never been about equality. It's just a communist tool for division and demoralization.
The Feminist movement was engineered by the Communist part to subvert the social institution of the family. It uses women as pawns to break down social cohesion and reduce reproductive rates. They are trying to weaken your people so that eventually they can invade your country and turn you into a slave. You are helping them enslave you.
Sometimes a positive movement that initially started right can be hijacked by a few radicals and destroyed what the movement was meant for.
As to what has led western feminism to the point that is now, I don't know.
I just don't see the need for feminism in western civilization anymore.
Women social opportunities today compared to women in the early 1900's is night and day.
Feminism has literally never been about equality, ever.
It was never about equality.
Old school feminists wanted the vote but not the draft that came with it.
Equality my ass
That's what happens when you don't gatekeep movements and let fringe lunatics take over the name even when those people hate what the movement stands for.
If we judge feminism by what it actually is today rather than what it was supposed to be, it's a fucked up mess. I hate what feminism has become.
This is why I have abandoned the term as having anything to do with equality.
It isn't necessary, if you are an advocate of equality then just use the term equality.
See: Long march through the institutions. The one in the crosshairs in this context is the family.
when men stopped being men and women stopped being women.
A power vacuum it seems like greed and selfishness is fueling it a lot. Like you said it will bring inequality. It’s absolutely wrong for those kind of women whom are clearly taking things too far
Some people misuse and abuse that word which loses its true meaning
The vast majority of feminist activism is still like that, you just don't hear from it because it's not happening on Social Media, it's happening IRL.
I think that’s just what men want you to think, honey. I’d consider myself a conservative feminist, if that makes sense.
I guess like any movement, it got too big, one sided, corrupt. People way over did it and MILKED it to the extreme, which caused sabotaged it's foundation.
It was only a matter of time before women fought too much and soy boys were created. Feminism didn't have the impact that you might believe.
We will never be equals y’all gotta let this feminist crap go 😂
Why? Why shouldn’t men and women be on an equal societal standing?
Because men and women are completely different
Look at schools boys are behind because they can’t learn by being told to sit down and be quiet
That’s called being a Filthy Casual. Some are…. Fine, most suck
The Seneca Falls declaration of sentiments uses the same rhetoric minus the "men are inherently violent" part. That didn't come until after the 2nd wave.
Until the 2nd wave.
And now trans women are now superior to real women.
You're absolutely 💯 correct. No place for hate
Its still there, ask the trans people about it>
It was always propaganda
They got power hungry
Yes. And I have noticed that women easily get drunk on power. Give them a little and they go way overboard with it. Guys are used to having power and not lording it over the next person at every opportunity. This is one of (many) reasons why guys who marry a woman who makes way more money than himself is a fool.
Can say where it's at
It evolved into the KAM movement
Or at least currently is evolving
Feminism got ran over by a bus, lol.
It’s calmed down.
oh sure.
it broke
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