Is feminism dead?

[Anonymous]

Feminism has certainly been dealt some monumental blows in recent years, such as the overturning of R v W, and the rejection of wokeness and progressivism in general, which of course is an indirect rejection of feminism. I have read countless articles and opinions written by feminists in recent months lamenting the big drop in support for modern feminist issues and acknowledging that the movement as we have come to know it in modern times is over.

It should come as no surprise to anyone who has been paying attention why most people no longer support what feminism evolved into over the last two decades. It became sexist, overtly anti male and anti family (and thus anti children), bitterly angry, divisive, and just generally destructive to western society. In essence, it was a movement looking for a cause, which never ends well. Feminism also utterly failed to even try to address one of the most corrosive elements that have done immense harm to women and girls... toxic femininity, which has supplanted healthy femininity as a model for our girls and young women.

https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2025/05/the-death-of-feminism/682704/

Personally, I believe a good gender movement is very much still needed, but it must be one that is based on fairness, not sexism. Unlike today's feminism, it will have to care about the interests and needs of BOTH sexes, not just females. Feminism has never done that, and never will as long as it is FEMINism.

So what in your opinion is the future of feminism, if it has one at all?

[Levin]

I think feminism will still be a force. It is convenient to certain women. They can play the victim, while getting tremendous benefits/and little of the responsibilities. I also strongly believe there is a contigent of women who hate men. While of course, this emanates from their own ego and traumas, their own fears round men (which may include existential ones around rape and violence), and having been hurt or abandoned by them; having the self-reflection to see that, is not likely. Very few people can have the self-awareness to look at themselves in a wholesale critical way.

A lot of women look upon other women with rose tinted glasses. But of course, most women, are more morally neutral. Containing good and bad parts. These sort of ambiguously moral women, and the egotists, will still flock to femininism.

So I agree with your analysis.

I hope we can begin to see what we have lost with our traditional values, and that men and women can begin to work in union, rather than being pitted against each other. Of course as you identify, western society is crumbling. Everything is falling apart. This is indeed to a significant degree to do with feminism, but also contains many complex and holistic parts.

[Anonymous]

feminism will always be relevant as long as there are women who are losers in life

feminism attracts losers and grifters who take advantage of these losers

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

So feminism does include ALL sexes (male, female, intersex) as well as all genders (male, female, non-binary, gender fluid, trans male, trans female, gender queer, agender, etc.) and it’s not “dead.” Part of the reason why women’s rights are being taken away is because these actions are part of an extinction burst, meaning a meteoric rise to power before it’s snuffed out permanently. Trump, like the many boomer-generation presidents and politicians before him, doesn’t like women. He sees feminism as you do, inherently evil and full of hatred towards men. The reality is feminism just challenges the male-centric norm and men who fit in well with the norm don’t want it to change so they see any opposition to that norm as an opposition to their existence. The movement of feminism exists because women didn’t have rights, taking them away doesn’t dampen the movement, if anything it empowers it because now there’s a reason to fight again.

[Asker]

Thank you so much for pointing out my error. I, of course, failed to list "dishonest" as one of the hallmarks of modern feminism, and it's a biggie. Your post here is a great example of that.

Everything you wrote here is coming from a female-centric perspective and fails to take into account any male perspectives, issues, interests or needs. And that is exactly why feminism is dead.

"Feminism does include ALL sexes (male, female, intersex) as well as all genders (male, female, non-binary, gender fluid, trans male, trans female, gender queer, agender, etc.)" <-- False. Feminism, views male issues and needs through a female-centric lens. The only male issues feminists ever advocate for are the ones they perceive will also advance women's interests.

"The reality is feminism just challenges the male-centric norm" <-- Wrong again. What you are doing here, again, is seeing everything through your female-centric lens, which is what feminism has ALWAYS done. In the past it was warranted and acceptable. Today it is not. Feminists dismiss female advantage and privilege and overstate / fixate on what they perceive as female disadvantages. At the same time, feminists dismiss male disadvantages and injustices while overstating their perceived advantages and privileges. It's that female-centric lens combined with the ubiquitous feminist dishonesty that has led to the death of feminism.

[Asker]

Meanwhile, men commit suicide at 4x the rate of females, there is a new epidemic of suicide among middle aged men, women vastly outnumber men in universities at every level of higher education, sexism against men is seen as a joke, men are still expected to fulfill traditional gender roles while women are not, fathers still get screwed in divorce court and child custody, women are still viewed as the primary victims of violence despite the fact that men die from and are victims of violence are FAR higher rates, women are still seen as the primary victims of workplace bias even though those statistics only account for jobs women actually care about, not the dirty and dangerous ones only men do, women now have the privilege of serving in the armed forces while men have the responsibility to do so. I could go on and on. How exactly is feminism advocating for men in those issues? It's not, obviously; in fact it is doing exactly the opposite.

Again, thank you for your response. I could not have asked for a better example of what has lead to the demise of feminism. Feminism is dead, as it should be.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

These are seen as legitimate issues. I think you just never bothered actually reading feminist theory and just listened to loud, angry misandrists who called themselves feminists and believed them

[Asker]

I have read plenty of feminist theory, taken feminist college courses, and talked to countless feminists about these issues. Don't even get me started on where those conversations always go. I stand by everything I said, including about you. Your statements here only prove my points, but I have read more than enough of what you've posted on GAG to know you are exactly what I'm referring to. You either don't recognize it in yourself or you're too dishonest to acknowledge it.

But in the end (and it is the end for feminism), actions speak louder than words, and it is the actions of feminists who have led to the demise of the movement. You "saying" the issues I listed are seen as legitimate doesn't mean a thing when feminism has clearly shown for years that it doesn't care enough to actually SHOW it cares about male issues. Like I said, the only time a feminist cares about a male issue is when she sees it as something she can leverage to advance female interests. The ACTIONS of feminists show that to be the case, time after time.

By the way, you cannot blame all of this on "fake feminists". That's a cowardly cop out. There are some good feminists and a lot of bad ones, and calling the bad ones "fake" is absurd. They are all feminists, and the good and bad ones collectively make up what the movement IS.

[Anonymous]

There was a time in my life (high school and part of my uni years) when feminism was important to me and I felt it was needed here in the US. I have since come to recognize the movement for what it is and the harm it has been doing to both men and women. I do not believe feminism does anything of value for males, but it does a lot of bad.

I agree with you that there are still gender issues that need to be addressed, and that goes for both sexes. But feminism is not the way to do it because it has clearly failed men and boys. We need something better, more fair and unbiased.

[MasterKS]

point to be noted.

[Anonymous]

As far as I'm concerned, the death knell for modern feminism came when they movement stayed silent when women and girls were deemed less important than men that pretend to be women.