What is the definition of white race?

[Anonymous]

As I've known there is no white race exist. Only caucosid exist. So what we consider someone who has light brown or olive skin like Italians, Spanish Greek, turkish, Israeli? Some people says they are Asian but I don't think they are Asian, there is huge difference with them being Asian..

[abc3643]

I will go with the United States Federal Government's definitions that they use for statistical purposes.
These were defined by the US Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and all Federal organizations must adhere to these definitions.

The definitions originated as "The Revisions to the Standards for the Classification of Federal Data on Race and Ethnicity (OMB Statistical Policy Directive No. 15)" and is in the US Federal Register which sort of is the Federal Goverment's logbook.
www.govinfo.gov/.../97-28653.pdf

This is what is important per the US Census Bureau:
www.census.gov/topics/population/race/about.html
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White – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa.

Black or African American – A person having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa.

American Indian or Alaska Native – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of North and South America (including Central America) and who maintains tribal affiliation or community attachment.

Asian – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam.

Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Hawaii, Guam, Samoa, or other Pacific Islands.

[monorprise]

Good question, the better question is why do you care about what people call "white" given it is NOT defined in any definitive sense?

I think the most comprehensive definition is anyone with European ancestry. That includes all Europeans as well as Most Americans both in North And South America, as well as large numbers of people in Australia, Africa, new Zealand etc..

[BJP21]

Is is what ignorant society designates because of the pigment in the skin. in my opinion it is more of an American concept because of the civil rights movements. If you were any other race other than white meaning Asian, Mexican or even Italian... etc your were designated as "colored."

Correct me if I am wrong...

[blissinanarchy1]

European ancestry from Gb, Ireland, and the likes. It’s honestly up for the debate. Irish and polish used to not be considered white, but hey, Mexican, Puerto Rican, and other Hispanic nationalities are.

[CloudMassacre]

I don’t really know how to define it since humans are all the same species, so there’s wide Blend areas and crossovers, I just don’t put importance on race anymore knowing how obscure some things are and how different people can look within a “race”

[Berethor]

European ancestry obviously, many turks are mixed, that why turks can look white.

[Nintendo-64]

Turks dont look White because they mixed with europeans. You are talking as if europeans has a monopoly on whiteness. Thats an orientalist, White supremacist anti turkist rhetoric that has zero historic basis.
Turks came from central Asia and they were White in terms of skin color to begin with.
Their eyes was slanted and had brachycephalic skull. They were Asian shortly but I am not talking about mid east or south Asian type of Asians here. I am talking about central and east Asian type of Asian. Slanted eyes, White skin etc.
Turkish language is close to languages like kazakh, krygiz, uzbek etc. and Turks are ethnically related to them even to this day.

[Nintendo-64]

Brown people in Turkey are mostly of kurdish and arab origin. They are not Turks.
Difference between them and us is not only apperaence but there is also ethnic, linguistic and cultural difference between White People (Turks) and Brown People (kurds arabs) in Turkey.
Dont confuse them with Turks.

[Asker]

@Nintendo-64 if turks are coming from central Asia that doesn't make them European too probably they were belong to the Mongolid race. Most of arabs and kurds and Persians are caucasoid people so they are in same race chat with Europeans. Plus most of turks are just anatolian people which are indigenous people of west Asia. They are just mixed with other nations like Greeks, Italians and Middle easternens.

[Nintendo-64]

There is no such a thing called caucasoid race.
Caucasian is an ethnic group, a language family.
Georgians, Chechens, ingush, avars, currently extinct urartians etc. are the only ones who can be considered as Caucasian.
Europeans arabs etc are not caucasoid by any means.
İn 1700s, 1800s historians though that europeans and people who have similar apperaence to them originated from caucasus region so they classified whole europeans, real Caucasians, indians and arabs simply as caucasians but its debunked long time ago but this term has been misused since then...
Europeans are of indo europeans and arabs are literally semites.
There is no relation between two.
İndo europeans being forefathers of white race is nothing but a pseudo scientific rhetoric that has zero scientific basis.
It's been used by mostly ignorant neo nazi aryan supremacists and orientalists.
İndo europeans originally have darker features. Proto indo europeans most likely had similar apperaence to modern day tajiks and afghans.
Modern day Europeans who are indo european brethren owe their whiteness to interracial mixing with paleo europeans.
Genetic tests proves that europeans are either descent of paleotic european populations or paleo European descents mixed with later indo european invaders and therefore only linguistically aryan. Hitler was plain wrong about his aryan supremacy theory.
by the way only surviving paleo european ethnicity in todays world is basque people so yes basques can claim themselves as forefathers of white race if they want.

[Nintendo-64]

Arabs on the other hand are basically semites with east African ancestory. What whiteness or caucasoidness you talking about. They migrated to Yemen from horn of africa and spread towards whole mid east later during İslamic conquests. Their ancestors were most likely had similar apperaence to modern day ethopians and somalians but they mixed with pre semitic inhabitants of Arabian peninsula and later invading paleotic Anatolians and Caucasians. But even to this day especially if you go into southern parts of Arabia such as countries like Yemen, oman, southern saudi Arabia. You can easily notice the negroid admixture inside of them from their skin color to facial features. Here in Turkey, I have even seen Syrian refugees who had similar facial features to somalians and ethopians. Geographically an average person would expect them to share little to no with East Africa but that's not the case apperantly.
Sorry but Turks on the other hand as of mongoloid race are much more close to whites ( real whites) than dalit indo europeans and Semitic desert Bedouins that's for sure.
We have always had light features to begin with.
We originated from Siberia.
Anatolian admixture caused Turks to lose their facial features such as slanted eyes and skull structure. But in terms of skin color an Anatolian or European admixture would cause Turks to go darker, not vice versa.

[Asker]

@Nintendo-64 brush but this isn't the answer of my question? Have you seen my question?

[Nintendo-64]

I wasn't answering your questiın.
I have just explained how wrong, baseless, non scientific , this famous anti turkist rhetoric thats claims Turks being white onlt because they mixed with europeans , is...
As if we came from yemen or something instead of central asia.
Turkics are forefathers of the white race and we are the missing link between Asians and whites.

[Nintendo-64]

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[jimmy2]

Eroupe was first blind hair blue eye than done same to America

[joeldalton]

What the fuck are you going on about?

[maximumpower]

Where did you learn how to write?

[jshm2]

White Aryan.

[SiberFox]

European