What part of the political spectrum/compass does liberalism belong to?

[bingbongbangbung]

Yes I'm asking this because woke sites like Wikipedia, Reddit, Buzzfeed, and Quora consider liberalism to be a centrist ideology lmfao

Left Wing

Right Wing

Centrism

Authoritarianism

Libertarianism

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[genericname85]

it is obviously left leaning ideology originally. but the sort of "liberalism" these platforms promotes is more like right wing totalitarianism. because they really do not want "liberty". they want cooptation of opinions and thoughts like hitler did. they can't tolerate the existence of different ideas and individuality. so they aren't classical "liberalists", they're neoliberals. who strive to reduce diversity of opinions and thoughts by limiting what sort of opinion and expression is acceptable.

[genericname85]

i understand that buzzfeed would call liberalism "centrist", cause as far left as they are, even communism looks centrist xD

[bingbongbangbung]

Wasn't Reagan a neo liberal?

[bingbongbangbung]

Well Nazism is basically socialism, or Hitler's own twisted interpretation of it. Nazi when unabbreviated and translated to English, stands for National Socialist Party of Germany.

[genericname85]

i'm not that familiar with American presidents as USA isn't my native country. but his presidency falls right within the time period in which neoliberalism originated.

[genericname85]

well you don't need to explain that to me xD i am german. and i find it funny that even most germans consider Hitler is to be a "right winger", when he had socialist tendencies. i guess that is an artefact from a time when the political spectrum was still more simplistic. hitler obviously was an extremely authoritarian, which people used synonymously with "right" for quite some time.

to be fair, hitler was actually quite centrist when it comes to his economic ideas. he for sure wasn't a "socialist", cause he still supported private owndership. he just put "germans" over everything and everyone else.

[bingbongbangbung]

Didn't both Antifa and neo Nazis originate from Germany too? I'd feel super shameful if I was a German. Oh, and communism was from Germany too (yes I know Marx is Jewish but only partially).

[AngryCarl]

Neo-liberalism is not the same as liberalism. It's not even similar. It's more like corporate libertarianism.

[genericname85]

I honestly don't know where the antifascist movement originated. Could be Germany but i consider them to be as fascists as the Nazis themselves and currently at times even more violent than the nazis. I think neo Nazis are actually more common in the USA than in Germany and I think that this morbid fascism is really not original to Germany. I mean neonazism is basically just blunt racism.

[genericname85]

@AngryCarl yes i know. That's why I said the original liberalism is more left and neo liberalism is more center or even right.

[genericname85]

It's quite confusing cause liberalism sounds similar to libertarianism, which are very different.

[OlderAndWiser]

It is far left, and it is authoritarian.

[bingbongbangbung]

I think you're mistaking neo-Marxism aka progressiveness as liberalism

[OlderAndWiser]

I am referring to that brand of socio-political thought that gets labeled as "liberalism" in the US.

[FreyaRed]

Western "liberalism" is Authoritarianism.
Cancel culture, dehumanizing and belittling of people with opposite opinions isn't part of true liberalism at all.

[es20490446e]

Liberalism goes to the left.

Neo-liberalism to the right.

[bingbongbangbung]

Then does neo conservatism go the left?

[es20490446e]

neo-conservatism is neo-liberalism.

[AngryCarl]

Left-wing libertarian, but it can also be towards the centre.

[bingbongbangbung]

Liberalism and libertarianism are not the same thing

[AngryCarl]

Agreed. Liberalism is more libertarian than authoritarian though.

[joeldalton]

Authoritarianism