Do you agree with this 'dude' that people born after 1990 haven't earned the right to vote?

[Still-alive]

Herschel Walker said voters born after 1990 “haven’t earned the right” to change the country, invited them to leave, and wanted them stripped of their citizenship.

Walker: “If you know a place better, you go there, but you’ll lose your citizenship here...” pic.twitter.com/czvelEN1OJ

— PatriotTakes 🇺🇸 (@patriottakes) November 27, 2022

I strongly agree with Herschel Walker

I agree

I disagree

I strongly disagree with Herschel Walker

I just want to see results

[CrazyGirl2]

Nobody over the age of 18 has earned the right to vote, it’s a RIGHT, we don’t earn rights we are born with them! It’s asinine on its face we have combat veterans who shed blood for this country who were born after 1990! Look, I’m a former Democrat, now Independent, but voted almost straight Dem in the midterms… however, I have to believe he was speaking hyperbole, he is in the election run-off of his life, I just cannot believe he would seriously say something as devastatingly stupid as THAT! Even though I wouldn't vote for him if I lived in Georgia, I still can’t believe he would say something THAT dumb w/o it being at least an ATTEMPT at humor!

[CubsterShura]

Oh boomers... They just hate the millennials and gen z holding them accountable huh

[hahahmm]

The way western society is headed, you will not even have a working society to live in. The trend is towards a lot of people focusing only on self-gratification which leads to a lot of issues. That doesn't mean that people in my generation are perfect but the further back in time you look the more people did stuff for reasons beyond just themselves.

[CubsterShura]

@hahahmm False. You were too busy polluting the planet and leave the mess for us to clean

[Still-alive]

@hahahmm i found the boomer lol 😆

[Still-alive]

@hahahmm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTZ-CpINiqg

George Carlin sums up the boomers best. :D

[Twalli]

Everyone should have to pass a "citizenship test" to be able to vote. We have immigrants who know more about the US than people born here. It's sad. Also, I don't see why Walker decided that anyone under 32 hasn't earned the right. What happened that allowed those born in 1990 to vote, while not everyone was born after it? What happened to earn them the right to vote? My cousin was born on January 2, 1991. I highly doubt that someone born on December 31, 1990, has earned the right more than someone born 2 days later.

[TollTheDead]

Walker has decided because people over 32 are more likely to vote for him.

[Twalli]

@TollTheDead Is that because those under 32 don't know his athletic achievements? Although I doubt people who were 2 or 3 when he competed in the Olympics remember it.

[Still-alive]

Should athletic achievements matter in a politician? Hmm 🤔

[Twalli]

Should we have voted for a celebrity for political office? We have multiple times, so clearly we do think they do

[Still-alive]

Did you think that was a good idea?

[Twalli]

No. I wouldn't vote for a celebrity or athlete for political office unless they have notoriety because of politics. So I would vote for someone who has notoriety like Hillary Clinton because her fame comes from politics, not a TV show or playing professional sports. I wouldn't vote for Colin Kaepernick, because while we can say that kneeling was a political statement (which it would be, except sometimes soldiers are supposed to kneel to the flag), he's known for doing that while being an athlete, which means his athletics made him famous.

[TollTheDead]

It’s because generally Millennials and Gen Z tend to vote Democratic more than Gen X and Boomers. Walker is trying to stack the deck in his favour by stripping Democratic voters of their rights.

[Twalli]

@TollTheDead Especially since he got less than Warnock even though neither got over 50%.

[loveslongnails]

Not at all. I live in Georgia and the people voting for him don't care that he's a lying idiot who can't think his way out of a paper bag. They're voting for him for one of two reasons:
1) They refuse to vote for a Dem
2) They know he'll be a "good n****r" and do what the Republican Party tells him

It's embarrassing that he got so many votes. I doubt he knows what the 3 branches of government are in the USA.

[God_of_Thunder]

Gee, I wonder why he would say that? 🤔

Yep... it's a mystery

[Aerissa_Jade]

Oh no, this is a racist question cause he's black right?

as for the question, doesn't matter. It is a right, no one has to earn a right. Be it to vote or own a gun, it is a given. We need less restrictions on both, and I think they should be tied together.

Get a voter ID card and it can be used to buy a gun. After all if the background check to determine someone is legal to vote is good enough, to show they are legal then it should work for both.

[Price511]

Herschel Walker is the type of guy who will talk about the border wall positively, debunk it in the same sentence, and then somehow talk about his dog all at the same time. Because he literally did. He also admitted to living in Texas in a speech a couple years ago WHEN HE’S RUNNING FOR A POSITION IN GEORGIA. He seems chill and fun, but he isn’t cut out for politics or making political statements, especially ones like this.

[Screenwriter]

Walker is no brain trust and whatever he mistakenly says means just about nothing. No one earns the right to vote, just like no one born here earns citizenship. It's gifted to those born here and those who live to be 18 years of age.

Whether a person EXERCISES their right to vote or performs other duties allied with citizenship is another matter entirely. But, he's simply and sadly wrong.

[TroyDT2]

Observations by a 3rd party supporter: Trump's meddling gave the Republicans this doofus and Oz in PA, and a slew of like candidates in House races that likely led to a much smaller than they should have had House majority. Normal Republicans probably could have won both Senate races outright, and given them a majority there, as well.

[ShadezMcgee]

I feel there should be a level of competency to go with the age of 18 to vote. Whether or not the voter is smart is another story.

[Still-alive]

and if they aren't 'competent' in your eyes they can't vote?

so does that go for all these boomers who know jack shit about politics but vote anyways because thats just what you're supposed to do?

[ShadezMcgee]

Competency in the sense that you are a fresh adult at 18 and still are learning about the world.

Don't you think it is interesting that people need to be 21 in the US to drink when it used to be 18? Isn't it odd that you need to display competency handling a vehicle and pass a test to be considered a qualified driver with a driver's license?

Let's take it a step further and use guns as an example. People that think we shouldn't go all out and ban them believe the stricter things such as background checks, passing a firearms test, registering a firearm on a document for public eye to see, buy a license for each type, pass a mental health test too. At what point does it get excessive or ridiculous? Furthermore, it would have to be put in the hands of a professional for mental health for anyone seeking a firearm. What's to say they aren't biased in how they evaluate someone by saying because they want a gun at all they are mentally unfit? Much less which mental illness will be considered a pass and which one will be a fail? That's what I am getting at.

Better to use a vote than to waste it, even if it is a write in. To go along with that, boomers aren't the only ones checking a box. You believe all 18 year olds that can vote off the bat know everything regarding politics as well? They don't. People vote on who aligns with what they want or to keep someone they hate out-of a position, that is the way it has always been.

So when I say stupid, I believe voters that vote for candidates I disagree with or make foolish decisions and a bad track record over a career out of something like politics, they have a right to vote for them. But I will believe they were foolish to vote for said person.

[Still-alive]

isn't it also odd that you're suggesting this after republicans got clobbered from their 'red wave' after the election where younger voters came out in droves? hmmm

[ShadezMcgee]

I find it interesting to believe you think that I am a republican, much less claimed there would be a red wave. I knew there wasn't going to be one with what went down, abortion being the big one.

Quite frankly, young people actually got out to vote. Cool. Boomers are dying too anyway, so naturally it makes sense that more of a younger demographic will show up. More power to them.

You asked for an opinion and I gave one. What exactly were you hoping for me or expecting me to say?

[Still-alive]

ok i guess i can believe you.

i just find it a little strange you want 'competency tests' for age 18s when there are more than enough incompetent boomers who could use a test too... would you like them to take these tests too?

[ShadezMcgee]

"I guess I can believe you" I honestly don't care if you believe it or not. I will say I didn't appreciated the passive aggressive responses you gave me off the bat, though. You asked, I answered. Simple as that.

My examples for competency above only prove how odd the idea is when it comes to certain things. We need to display it for serious things like jobs with degrees, education, handling machinery, vehicles and weapons, but not one to vote? Just saying that is interesting when we vote for people who try to pass and enforce ideals and policies that can really screw a large amount of people over.

Competency test for voting would and sense across the board for those that wish to vote. Everyone should do it and take the same test to determine whether they can vote or not. The test itself could be similar to what immigrants take to gain citizenship or something along the lines of standard civics. One can get study material for it and take the test a few times a year until it is passed. You learn and you gain a right. Sounds like a twofer to me.

[Still-alive]

It’s because the vote has traditionally been prevented or had significant barriers to it during the jim crow era… surely you’ve heard if the iq tests (your competency tests sound quite familiar to it) black people in the south were subjected to take before they voted. metro.co.uk/.../

Now the thing about these tests is that tgey were intentionally confusing to people who were not well educated and could barely read which black people in those days barely could. Your ‘competency’ tests essential mirror this old practice. We did away with them and we should probably not ever bring them back either.

If you also know your history you would realize the voting age had been lowered throughout the years too. It went down to 18 during the Vietnam era because the logic was if they could die for their country at 18 then they should be able to vote at 18 too.

Suffice to say your idea is flawed.

[Still-alive]

www.cbs8.com/.../509-5f16a23d-19be-4c22-a61b-ec93c564bf46

[ShadezMcgee]

Which is why it was changed which is a good thing. However we are also looking at an extreme example here. I could read and interpret what it said if we want to orally say what is written like they used as the example for Alabama here. Minus the convoluted phrasing bullshit they put in that link as example, so long as you have can read and write coherently, you should be fine.

Which is what I am getting at. None of those tests there can really be classified as a question for competency because it is written to be solved like a puzzle if we look at it that way. I was not getting at using an iq test as a measure for competency, I am going off of what is taught in school and can be learned as something you would find on a test for fluency and the ability to recite what was taught. With a cutoff passing score. Not a one and you fail deal. We do this in school all the time, why not for something like this? Seemed pretty straightforward.

[Still-alive]

"I was not getting at using an iq test as a measure for competency, I am going off of what is taught in school and can be learned as something you would find on a test for fluency and the ability to recite what was taught. With a cutoff passing score. Not a one and you fail deal. We do this in school all the time, why not for something like this? Seemed pretty straightforward."

because it creates an unneeded barrier for people to vote. and i can guarantee those with an agenda will use these as a way to suppress certain members of the populations vote as has been historical precedent in our country since the old days. what i cited was not at all an extreme example as you put it, but very commonly used back in the jim crow era. there are people today attempting to put more barriers up for voting that do mirror those old days.

simply being age 18 should be the only requirement to vote. anything more than that and you are suppressing peoples votes whether you intend to or not.

[ShadezMcgee]

So how do you feel about having photo ID when it comes to voting?

[Still-alive]

Nope dont like that either. The opposition stated on this site i think sums it up best:

“Voter ID laws deprive many voters of their right to vote, reduce participation, and stand in direct opposition to our country’s trend of including more Americans in the democratic process. Many Americans do not have one of the forms of identification states acceptable for voting. These voters are disproportionately low-income, racial and ethnic minorities, the elderly, and people with disabilities. Such voters more frequently have difficulty obtaining ID, because they cannot afford or cannot obtain the underlying documents that are a prerequisite to obtaining government-issued photo ID card."

ballotpedia.org/Arguments_for_and_against_voter_identification_laws

[Still-alive]

Something else to think about further down that page as i think you probably worry about voter fraud the most hence why you think voter ids are necessary. here's an argument explaining that voter ids wouldn’t address the majority of voter fraud cases they see and voter fraud generally is quite rare in our country despite what the maga’s proclaim:

“Election fraud happens. But ID laws are not aimed at the fraud you’ll actually hear about. Most current ID laws (Wisconsin is a rare exception) aren’t designed to stop fraud with absentee ballots (indeed, laws requiring ID at the polls push more people into the absentee system, where there are plenty of real dangers). Or vote buying. Or coercion. Or fake registration forms. Or voting from the wrong address. Or ballot box stuffing by officials in on the scam. In the 243-page document that Mississippi State Sen. Chris McDaniel filed on Monday with evidence of allegedly illegal votes in the Mississippi Republican primary, there were no allegations of the kind of fraud that ID can stop.

Instead, requirements to show ID at the polls are designed for pretty much one thing: people showing up at the polls pretending to be somebody else in order to each cast one incremental fake ballot. This is a slow, clunky way to steal an election. Which is why it rarely happens.

I’ve been tracking allegations of fraud for years now, including the fraud ID laws are designed to stop. ...

So far, I’ve found about 31 different incidents (some of which involve multiple ballots) since 2000, anywhere in the country

[bingbongbangbung]

Meanwhile pretty much every other democratic country in the West has mandatory photo ID requirement and they're all doing just fine lmfao

[bingbongbangbung]

You never cited your sources so for all we know you could just be making it all up and/or misinterpreting the context of the sources you're referencing

[Still-alive]

@bingbongbangbung ummm yes I did

[bingbongbangbung]

Nevermind, you just cited a wiki site managed by some NGO lmfao. That's not really much better than using Wikipedia smh

[Still-alive]

@bingbongbangbung cool. Show me how it’s wrong. Ill wait

[bingbongbangbung]

Lol Metro and CBS, you're citing mainstream media now? Bye

[bingbongbangbung]

I'll wait for you to use more reliable sources and to cite your shit properly

[Still-alive]

@bingbongbangbung excellent then you have bullshit. I can easily call what you say ‘fake news’ too.

What i said is pretty common knowledge or at least it should be if your schools werent so shitty with teach correct history

[MountAverage]

Herschel Walker needs to learn the English language and how to utter a coherent sentence before he gets to talk about who should or shouldn't have a right to vote. Seriously, when he speaks it's just random English words coming out of his mouth. I guarantee you that motherfucker got severe brain damage from his days in the NFL.

[LordOfThePines]

Of course not. They were born here, they live here, they pay taxes and they work. What goes on in politics directly affects them. They have earned the right to vote. To imply someone who is a citizen has no right to vote by virtue of birth year alone, is no real American.

[menina]

I don't know who this guy is, but he shouldn't be making nonsensical statements.

[Still-alive]

He's running for the senate in the state of Georgia lol

[menina]

Then good luck to the people of Georgia Lol

[Still-alive]

they will likely do the right thing there and prevent him from winning there lol. they got until December 6th. early voting is proving well so far

[menina]

I hope they do because he sounds like a disaster! 🤦🏽‍♀️ 🤦🏽‍♀️

[inhua]

citizenship test wouldn't be a bad idea. it's a shame when native-born citizens don't know a damn thing about their country's history or rather they choose to believe in the propaganda spewed out by the left-wing mainstream media.

[call_me_scar]

Oh course that type of republican would want less democracy after all when less people in general vote they win good thing that bitch lost

[call_me_scar]

Lol just noticed their election isn't till Dec so the cunt hasn't lost yet but judging by the fact he said he said he nearly killed his wife I'd say he lost his mind at the very least

[llorando]

You don't earn the right to vote, it's an automatic constitutional right when you turn 18(17 for primaries) so he's full of sheet and I strongly disagree.

[CrazyGirl2]

22 states allow 17yo to vote in the Primary election, but ONLY if they will turn 18 BEFORE the general election. But like you I strongly disagree that anyone over the age of 18 has not earned the right to vote, it’s a RIGHT, we dint earn rights we are born with them! It’s asinine on its face we have combat veterans who shed blood for this country who were born after 1990! Look, I’m a former Democrat, now Independent, but voted almost straight Dem in the midterms… however, I believe he had to be speaking hyperbole, he is in the election run-off of his and his parties life, I just cannot believe he would seriously say something as devastatingly stupid as THAT! Even though I wouldn't vote for him if I lived in Georgia, I still can’t believe he would say something THAT dumb w/o it being an attempt at humor!

[supercutebutt]

Herschel needs to resume his contests of competitive Russian roulette. He says he's "blessed" so he should be safe. :)

[MrKinktastic]

Nobody has to “earn” the right to vote. That kind of gate keeping is anti-democratic.

[SnowedIn]

I disagree. If people meet the legal requirements to vote, let them vote.

[PinkRose24]

Lol no. Couldn't anyone say the same thing about him for being black 🤦‍♀️

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

I strongly disagree with Herschel Walker.

[loveslongnails]

Sounds like something Herschel would say while he's paying for some girl's abortion.

[AngryCarl]

Dude has the intellect of a cabbage. A dumb cabbage at that.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

What a clown.

Vote is a fundamental right in a democracy.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

He’s mad because Welfare Queen used his taxes to buy stuff