Will the 2024 Election be ‘Free and Fair’?

[DrAdams]

Will their be issues?

Yes

No

[goaded]

It depends a lot on whether the Republican Supreme Court decides to allow legislatures to ignore the results of the elections or not.

"Judge Luttig said that, absent changes in federal law governing the counting of electoral votes, an unconstrained legislature might be able to substitute its own slate of presidential electors for the ones voters had chosen on Election Day — the very strategy former President Donald J. Trump employed in trying to overturn his election loss in 2020."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/06/us/supreme-court-moore-harper-elections.html

[exitseven]

We have 2 years to fix the election laws in some of the more crooked states. A lot of these states have Republican state legislators so it will be possible to limit mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, not purging voter rolls and early and late voting.

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO😎

[trina_x]

i like to think
nobody really cares that much anymore about trump
but i might be wrong
and im gonna be frank, i doubt any other candidate will have people who act like that around them rn

[FreyaRed]

Who cheated once and went away with it, will surely do it again.

[Snakeyes7]

As long as there are places where ballot harvesting and mail in voting is legal, fairness goes right out the window.

[DrAdams]

Democrats were voting twice in the 2020 election in some places it was a fraud!

[Snakeyes7]

But was it enough to cost an election which is what we needed to know. Even if it didn't, we still have more than enough evidence that there was a substantial amount of foul play enough to sway results to a considerable degree.

[goaded]

Mail in voting was preferred in Florida before 2020. When Republicans used it most.

No complaints about election security for a couple of decades, then Democrats start using it and everybody starts losing their minds! Funny, that.

[Snakeyes7]

@goaded Well, they're idiots. All mail in voting does is get more uninformed people voting.

[goaded]

"Democrats were voting twice in the 2020 election in some places it was a fraud!"

"we still have more than enough evidence that there was a substantial amount of foul play enough to sway results to a considerable degree. "

No, they weren't, and no, you don't. You have about a few hundred cases of voter fraud in hundreds of millions of ballots (many Republicans voting for their dead relatives) or people voting while felons (who the state had told they were entitled to a vote). None of that is enough to even suggest that the election could have gone wrong. apnews.com/c64bba90b8c074bf8bdfd2c751b6b0f2

The Heritage Foundation (a far right group) has been tracking voter fraud, and reports nealy 1,400 cases over many decades.

Nothing like enough to overturn an election. As a counter-example, in 2000, thousands of voters marked their candidate AND wrote in their name. Most of them were votes for Gore, the difference was far more than the 500-odd vote difference that determined the election. You'll note there was no attack on the Capitol in 2001, nor calls for Gore to be installed as president after the inauguration.

(I missed that post earlier, apologies for speaking out of turn.)

[Snakeyes7]

@goaded I am not talking about voter fraud, that's why I am saying even if it didn't happen, we still have ballot harvesting, mail in voting and the government collusion with big tech to censor the Hunter Biden story. Zuckerberg admitted this and this was included in the files that Musk released to the public.

[goaded]

Funny, because the government at the time was run by a certain President Trump.

All "the government" did was warn media companies to watch out for fake news and disinformation from Russia, just like we saw two years previously. If Guiliani had wanted to be taken seriously with his "October surprise", he should have let media companies have time to verify it first. As it was, even Fox News wouldn't touch the story because it was so ridiculous.

[tfan1]

With all the illegals that bonehead let into the US and now I think schumer is trying to get all illegals to be citizens - I’m betting the catch is they have to vote for bonehead or just demonic rat in general.

[NamerOfStars]

There will be allegations. Whether there's anything to them or not, whether one side or the other is proclaimed the winner, I think the era of accepting defeat with good sportsmanship is coming to a close.

[DynamicKicker]

Who knows. Might be different now that Elon Musk owns twitter but don't hold your breath on it

[jshm2]

To date, every election has been. There has not been a single case brought before a court to prove different.

[exitseven]

It was never as widespread as it was in 2020 and it was done so many different ways , fake moil in ballots, ballot harvesting, tampering with voting machines, and now we have evidence that government agencies were colluding with the media and social media to suppress stories that would have had an impact on the results of the election.

[Anonymous]

Still crying over the last election, are we?

[DrAdams]

No, it was stolen, Trump won the election FAIRLY!

[goaded]

https://lostnotstolen.org/

[DrAdams]

That’s fake news

[goaded]

No, that's real Republicans disputing fake news.

[DrAdams]

That is not an accredited source. Read DailyMail or Fox News!

[goaded]

Seriously?

[tfan1]

Amen buddy 🙂👍

[tfan1]

That Amen buddy was directed to DrAdams 🙂👍

[LiamJHayden]

It is unlikely that the FBI will conspire with social media again like they did in 2020, so fairer anyway.

[KostasKouvalis]

I honestly don't care as long as DeSantis wins

[Anonymous]

The process might just be a little more balanced than recent times due to a disturbance in the force.

[MountAverage]

Tricky. Republicans will once again try everything they can to steal it.

[Anonymous]

No, as usual DNC will fix their primary so only an establishment hack can get the nomination.

[12Volt]

100% correct. No one wanted Biden in the primaries, but he magically won. Then he hid in his basement like John Fetterman, and got more votes than anyone in history. Yeah, nothing rigged about that.

[Opinion Owner]

@12Volt That's factually not True about Fetterman, he lives in a service station that has no basement, and secondly he was only absent for a while cause of a stroke. Oz was such a crappy candidate from NJ that no one in PA wanted, he lost to a stroke victim. 100% agree with both the general and primary election being rigged for Biden. Remember during the primary, a voter in California, was caught on camera, arguing and yelling at poll workers for over 5 minuets for them to give him the correct ballot they had hidden under the table. Turns out later, some poll workers admitted to being instructed to had out the wrong ballot that most likely wouldn't get counted. Couldn't have Sanders have a blow out victory in California.

[jimmy2]

I sure they be a coup before that so we can have fair elections. Right now other countries and people hear stuff the ballots

[BlueScorpio]

I don't know... hopefully

[joeldalton]

Based on the past two, it's not looking good.