Can you define woman? Or man?

[OddBeMe]

https://youtu.be/ykdj6tMG8SY

Yes

No

Ehh

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1 y

love all the hate... yet no definitions yet.

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1 y

All right. Got tons of scientific definitions. Cool. But there can be social genders, right?

[Cassie88]

Yes I can, because I actually went to school and this was one of the very first things I figured out when I was about four.

Woman: Human female over the age of 17. XX chromosomes, born with the potential to give birth to offspring.

Man: Human male over the age of 17. XY chromosomes. Cannot give birth to children at any stage in the development of that individual's life.

Women have vaginas and its associated plumbing, and men have penises (with which they do most of their thinking). The two sexes are required in order for the species to reproduce, and they are not capable of developing into the sex they were not born as.

There! Simple.

[OddBeMe]

So women in menopause aren’t women?

[OddBeMe]

Or men born with Klinefelter syndrome?

[Cassie88]

Your comprehension (or perhaps reading) skills seem to be lacking in this instance. I said, quote: "... born with the potential to give birth to offspring". Female babies (and I can't believe I'm explaining the 'birds and the bees' to a 39 year old man) come into the world with the potential to eventually raise their own offspring. Men cannot do this, because they're the ones who impregnate the females. Got it? Clear enough?

[Cassie88]

According to the Mayo clinic, "Klinefelter syndrome is a genetic condition affecting males, and it often isn't diagnosed until adulthood". They're still male, even though they have this disorder. Even so, the chromosomes are either X or Y, and not W or Z. There are only males, females, and (very rare) chromosomal abnormalities. Two sexes, two genders. That's it. Eunuchs don't count.

[InsecureLivesMatter]

Also breasts vs flat chest, 99% of the time

[suzzieQ]

So women who aren't born with the potential capability of giving birth aren't women?

[Cassie88]

@suzzieQ It's a general rule, a definition. Of course there will be exceptions, people who don't quite fit due to some (for example) genetic abnormality, but Mr. OddBeMe here was asking us to define a woman. How hard is that? Not at all.
He gave the example of Klinefelter Syndrome, but according to Mayo at least, those people are still male.

[suzzieQ]

So you’re saying that women who can’t reproduce aren’t women. That’s fucking bull shit

[NachtjaegerSS]

In the 80's we didn't have to ask these questions.

[zeitgeist057]

According to her definition, women in menopause are women, as they fit the parameter "born with the potential to give birth to offspring.". But a person who is born sterile would not be a woman, according to this definition. All sterile people would be men, though it is unclear what a sterile person with a vagina would be called.

[smølf]

@cassie88 You are right of course, do not waste time on woke people pushing fake information.

[KrakenAttackin]

Why does the left have a sudden obsession with protecting/promoting a segment of the population that is probably 0.01% or smaller?

Aren't there other groups that need a voice?

[suzzieQ]

@KrakenAttackin What kind of moster thinks that baren women dont deserve a voice

[Cassie88]

@suzzieQ Oh for goodness sake. READ what I ACTUALLY wrote there. I didn't - did NOT - say that women who for whatever reason can't have children aren't women!

[suzzieQ]

"Human female over the age of 17. XX chromosomes, born with the potential to give birth to offspring." That implies that people born without the potential of giving birth will never be women.

[Cassie88]

@suzzieQ Yes, BORN with the POTENTIAL to one day (upon reaching puberty) give birth. A newborn infant doesn't have this ability, nor does someone who has long passed the childbearing age, and is now 80 or so.
As a GENERAL RULE (you know, a definition) it works.

[suzzieQ]

So the people who are aren't born with that potential just dont count? Or are you saying that there are exceptions and that not everyone who isn't able to give birth can still be considered a woman?

[Cassie88]

@suzzieQ The latter. Remember, the definition is of a WOMAN, not girl, or whatever.
Anyway, I've been wondering about something. Your profile image. To me you look a LOT like another GAG member here called 'Subarugirl'. Do you have more than one account? She isn't 15 though.

[suzzieQ]

Yeah I remember. It’s just that woman refers to gender and gender is a social construct.

So I have been told.

[smølf]

@suzzieQ If gender is a social construct, then sex and gender are not the same. Woman refers to sex not gender then.

[suzzieQ]

@smølf Sex and gender, by definition are not the same. Female is sex. Girl, gal, woman... that is gender.

"“Sex” refers to the physical differences between people who are male, female, or intersex. A person typically has their sex assigned at birth based on physiological characteristics, including their genitalia and chromosome composition. This assigned sex is called a person’s “natal sex.”

Gender, on the other hand, involves how a person identifies. Unlike natal sex, gender is not made up of binary forms. Instead, gender is a broad spectrum. A person may identify at any point within this spectrum or outside of it entirely."

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/232363

[smølf]

@suzzieQ In my native language they are no words for gender, both words are sex (køn). What you call gender is kønsidentitet, meaning sex identity. I suppose this is what you mean when you say gender.

However, sex is not assigned at birth, it's observed based on physiological characteristics. The very few intersex people can be harder to identify. But only approximately 1 in 2,000 individuals are born with intersex traits, which equates to about 0.05% of the population.

Identity is a spectrum since you can identify as anything, but man and woman are defined by sex and sex is not a spectrum. You do have a spectrum of sex characteristics, meaning a spectrum within males and females with some overlaps, but is not the sexes but sex characteristics.

Gender is useless in defining males and females and therefore also men and women since it corospond to sex.

[suzzieQ]

@smølf I am just going on how the world health organization define sex and gender.

[smølf]

@suzzieQ but the question was not about sex and gender.
But rather, how do we define a man and a woman.

You are aware the world health organization is a political organisation, not a scientific one?

I use the biological method and dispense with the political definition.

[suzzieQ]

@smølf well WHO's definition is based on the scientific definition of the two. I am simply stating that gender is as black and white as sex.

[smølf]

@suzzieQ Science is not redefining words, they deal with facts like biology.
There is no science in the dictionary definition of any words really.

Nevertheless, ignore gender and focus only on sex. Man and woman are defined based on sex, not gender.

[suzzieQ]

@smølf Do you know what etymology is? Man and woman is gendered, male and female is sex. There is a difference.

[Cassie88]

@suzzieQ A baby's gender is DETERMINED at birth, not "assigned"!

[smølf]

@suzzieQ
Use a dictionary
Man = an adult male human being.
Male = of or denoting the sex that produces gametes, especially spermatozoa, with which a female may be fertilized or inseminated to produce offspring.

sex that produces small gametes = male + human adult = man
sex that produces large gametes = female + human adult = woman

Sex is what dertermin if its a man or a woman, not how they identify (internalised).

[Cassie88]

@suzzieQ You do know, don't you, that the WHO (World Health Organisation) isn't actually a scientific body, but a political, bureaucratic branch of the United Nations, and that when it comes to determining (for example) correct usage of scientific terms, they have precisely zero credibility.

[KrakenAttackin]

Test

[Tamera952]

Please stop already. You’re beating a dead horse. Get the fuck over it already. Your Matt Shapiro/Tucker Carlson boat has already sailed…. Who cares?
I don’t want to, or need to “define” either one. This is SOOOO LAME.

[joeldalton]

I bet he’s a trumptard, too.

[OddBeMe]

does your news consist of shapiro or tucker? cuz you may not be trans, but its still an issue to some.

[John_Doesnt]

[bean2k21]

Etymologically speaking, woman derived from the Old English wifmon, which means the wife of a man. Over the years, it's completely lost it's meaning, which is why I refer to my romantic interests as "slaves."

[OddBeMe]

Good call. My wife refers to me that way.

[zeitgeist057]

Interesting, I always assumed it came from "womb-man", meaning a person with a womb. "Womb-man" sounds so much closer to "woman", than "wife-mon".

[KrakenAttackin]

Let's cut to the chase:. Tranny's are mentally ill, not their own category of gender.

[OddBeMe]

I do love cutting to the chase.

[OddBeMe]

But they’re less deranged than you

[KrakenAttackin]

@OddBeMe. Well, if you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one who yelps is the one you hit.

[Dargil]

A woman was born with XX chromosomes and, in most cases, with a vulva, vagina, uterus and ovaries. There are a few "Oops" out there.

It doesn't matter how she identifies herself beyond a birth certificate.

[RolandCuthbert]

I can help out with defining what is masculine. My "take" caused so many issues.

What Are Masculine Traits?

[CaptainSmartass]

Yes. A woman is an adult female, who was born female, with XX chromosomes.

A man is an adult male, who was born male, with XY chromosomes.

Women have boobs, vaginas and wombs.

Men have penises (or peni) and testicles.

Simples...

[exitseven]

If you pee standing up you are a man If you pee sitting down you are a woman.

[OddBeMe]

Boom. Winner.

[Anonymous]

A woman is a grown up female, which means she was born with a vagina and still has it. A man is a grown up male, which means he was born with a penis and sill has it.

[OddBeMe]

What they’re in a car wreck and lose their genitalia?

[Opinion Owner]

Then they are a disfigured man / woman, but it doesn't change their sex, because that's not possible.

[RonStone45]

Don't bother arguing with an adult that can't define what a woman is.

[OddBeMe]

@RonStone45 or a churchie who copies other peoples arguments.

[RonStone45]

2+2=4, their is only one right answer, it is to be shared and a video is quicker than to type and explain it yourself.

[RonStone45]

there*

[OddBeMe]

@RonStone45 no one cares about that and they are laughing at your 2+2 argument. FYI, learn some logical arguments and try again.

[RonStone45]

Bro you don't even know what a woman is you retarded clown.

[OddBeMe]

@RonStone45 I asked that as a thought experiment. But you keep bringing it up and you’re simply embarrassing yourself.

[RonStone45]

yeah right

[OddBeMe]

@RonStone45 ooh, give me another Bible verse about washing the semen off my unclean, sinned body…

[RonStone45]

I cannot wait for you to shriek in hell.

[OddBeMe]

That’s not very Christian of you. Turn the other cheek and I’ll spank you.

[RonStone45]

How about you keep spouting your atheist crap to Chrsitians like this guy did in person:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTQaTMTYla4

[RonStone45]

But do it in person, you''ll see Christians are not perfect and have limits to your bs. They sin but they are forgiven.

[OddBeMe]

Wow. Didn’t see heckles. Just some angry Christian animal that can’t control his rage. Sound familiar?

[RonStone45]

A good example of atheist animals that can't control their rage are antifa, and real commies, wonder how many they killed. Atheist don't believe in anything, right and wrong doesn't exist, life is meaningless to them, if something is wrong and they can get away with it they can do it. There is no right or wrong for you, you can do what you want. Christians know life has a meaning, the true right and wrong as listed byGod, what is good and evil. Leftist atheist tend to call evil good and good evil

Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Isaiah 5:20

that's why you support all that perversion crap at rainbow rallies.

[OddBeMe]

I don’t know the back story of that dumbass video but a guy kneeling (and I assume praying) suddenly jumps up and viciously attacks some dude like an animal. Even if there was a “heckle” you think that’s appropriate?

[Opinion Owner]

To your update, sex and gender have been synonymous for centuries. It has only been recently that a small segment of society hijacked the term "gender" and turned it into a social construct with definitions that are so absurd that they have rendered the term meaningless. So yes, there are social definitions, but the vast majority of people will ignore them and continue to define the term as it has always been intended, as a synonym to sex.

[OddBeMe]

Sure but also science has grown by leaps and bounds. I mean you used to think frogs were just male or female.

[OddBeMe]

Not you, meant we as in humans.

[Deliciouscookies]

Easy, a woman is a female human of reproductive maturity. A man is a human male of reproductive maturíty.

[snackthatsmilesback]

Sure u want social definitions. A woman is a person socially recognized as an adult who identifies as a woman. A man is a person socially recognized as an adult who identifies as a man.

[Rosexøxø]

She’s the other version of the male species both resulted from the Big Bang along with the many other organisms.

[Anonymous]

Anyone else think Oddbeme needs a biologist to tell him which washroom to use in a shopping mall?

[Opinion Owner]

This is why liberals shouldn't be allowed to vote, they don't even know what a woman is. FKNG RETARDS.

[Catarine]

Women are born with two X chromosomes and man with an X and Y.

[Anonymous]

Woman = an adult human who was born female and is still female

Man = an adult human who was born male and is still male

These ^ are the real definitions, and the only ones that matter to same people.

[bolverk]

Woman = Adult Human Female XX chromosomes

Man = Adult Human Male XY chromosomes

If any of the Wokies on here don't like those definitions then tough.

[bolverk]

'social genders' have nothing to do with the Biological definition of woman or man, those who claim they have a 'social gender' differing from what their biology is, is either a narcissist where every thing is all Me, Me, Me, or they have a serious psychological problem for which they need serious in-patient care.

[Cubus]

Yes.

Woman is an adult human that has XX chromosomes.

Man is an adult human that has XY chromosomes.

[OddBeMe]

But we call men with klinefelters syndrome men.

[Cubus]

This is an illness. Illness is not a norm.

[msc545]

sure. if you have XY chromosomes you are male and if you have XX chromosomes you are female. Any other combinations are very rare and many have medical significance.

[goaded]

So there are exceptions.

[msc545]

@goaded Yes - pathological conditions are always exceptions, fortunately.

[KrakenAttackin]

Yes, this!

[msc545]

@KrakenAttackin thanks!

[TadCurious]

Yes. A woman is an adult female of the human species who has XX sex chromosomes.

[RavVid]

It is simply what gametes they produce. it is that simple.

[goaded]

It's impossible. Every definition has exceptions.

[msc545]

Nothing is 100% in biology.

[John_Doesnt]

A woman has two X chromosomes. A man has an X chromosome and a Y chromosome.

[MountAverage]

In an objective, universal way? No, that's impossible. What a woman or man is, can be defined when given some context.

[Anonymous]

Lionel said that I'm once, twice, three times a lady