Are men ULTIMATELY the reason for why men and women don't get along in society?

[Anonymous]

[bamesjond0069]

Directly No

Indirectly Yes.

It's a cycle so this is why it's yes and no.

First directly no. There are so few women worth putting in effort, men don't want to put in any effort. Even if they put in the effort they most likely will not get a suitable woman. So that's women's fault. Women who aren't suitable for men to want have no right to special treatment or relationships.

Indirectly yes though. Simp ass beta cuck dads are letting their daughters ruin themselves before they even come of age, ie fat is beautiful sweetie, you might be 14 but yes your boyfriend can sleep over... they are ruining their daughters before they have a chance to ever be a woman a man would actually put in effort for.

[Asker]

Key word "indirectly" lol

[Adam1978]

No men are very simple in nature, so we can't be the reason. It's womens delusion and lack of understanding and not seeing the consequences of what they trying to push that is the reason.

[Asker]

I think that way too, but I don't want to count out the "ultimate" reason. For example, if men didn't approach women... lol

[Adam1978]

If men doesn't approach women it's their fault and the fault of the legal system that they changed. Men didn't stop because they wanted, it's an reaction to what they did. It always about risk and consequences and today less and less women are worth the high risk involved. If you demonize a person you can't expect them to help and do what you want.

[Asker]

Exactly. Men are the problem. They started the idea of male courtship.

But this could also be subjective. For example, how about we be proud of being men and take that honor, and stop complaining about inequality. Lol

That's a another way to look at it.

But it seems this age-old practice has also turned on itself... entitled women.

[Adam1978]

No we did not, nature did long before human existed.

[Asker]

Humans are not other animals. We are "nurtured". They are entirely "natured".

[Adam1978]

You can't nurture away biological processes. I am not aware of any animal where males aren't the one that end on the short stick when it comes to courting. Believing that human evolved beyond that is delusional.

[Asker]

Yes sir

[Asker]

God knows all

[Anonymous]

No, men are not ultimately the reason for why men and women don't get along in society. Gender relations are influenced by a complex set of factors, including societal and cultural norms, historical and structural power imbalances, and individual attitudes and behaviors. Men and women have different experiences and perspectives and can have different ways of communicating and interpreting interactions. There are also societal pressure to conform to gender stereotypes which can cause tension and misunderstandings between men and women.

[Asker]

Yes I think like that too sometimes. Both may already know that members of the opposite gender are all different, but what really separates us are the narratives and life experiences and gender specific insecurities... leading to jealousy and fear of not being able to relate to each other (a. k. a. unrealistic expectations of relationships lol)

[Asker]

We are all born the same... then life happens. We are the product of our life experiences (race, gender, personality, disabilities, conditions, nurture, etc.)

[anon171999]

No. It's a collective effort. I genuinely believe that if women would start treating men with respect, kindness, and patience then a VERY drastic amount of men would start treating women with respect and love. I believe disrespectful, weak, and unloving women are what creates disrespectful and abusive men.

However, a strong man can also raise sons that treat women with love and respect.

[Asker]

Right on sister 😉

[Rosexøxø]

No no no

Society.

When people wait for other’s reactions

or for the smooth talkers of the group to talk and decide, instead of everyone being independent in who they are.

Society messed it up. We’re still far-advanced enough to fix it, though.

#Evolution

#Resolution

#Resiliency

[Asker]

Yea time changes everything

[Red-Blaze]

First no
Second No..
What man and woman dont get alomg as socity?
Do we have problems? sure but its a huge and completacted thing, ofcourse there will be problems, and its not anyone fault, its just a big and complicated thing there will be problems

[Anonymous]

Both genders have fouled this up. Come to think of it gender doesn't really matter here. It is more like the individual contribution to the disharmony between men and women but they each add their type of fuel to the fire. for example men blaming feminism and women saying all men are cheaters.

[Asker]

I always wonder why "cheaters" is mostly a women's complaint? Women cheat too.

Either men are cheating far more often or women are just more sensitive lol.

[Opinion Owner]

It's also likely that girls see only the top 20% of men and go after them. These men have many girls at their disposal and can cheat easily.

[Asker]

I'm not sure if that stupid ok cupid study is even legit. It's like saying "the average man is less attractive than the average woman". Which I doubt is the case. The demographics for that study must be too narrow. There are beautiful men all over the world. Not only in this stupid western society alone.

[Opinion Owner]

There is truth behind it and my reasoning is men usually not taking care of themselves, not caring about fashion, not caring about discovering their style, not caring much About their appearance and so on. And then they expect beautiful girls.

[Asker]

So gender does matter lol. You may also be wrong because I've heard of many women claim "I'm attracted to almost every guy" lol

[Opinion Owner]

I Never saw that. But like with anything, anything is possible. Boy-crazed girls is a common occurence and i myself am girl-crazy.

[AmandaYVR]

Nope. Takes two to tango. (And not tango.)

A massive cultural shift has happened in the past just 60 years. Things are in upheaval now. Everyone's trying to adjust, but there are a lot of differing motivations at odds right now.

[Cassie88]

But we do get along. What are you talking about?

[Asker]

Now that's what I want to hear. I was referring specifically to those groups that don't. Different demographics.

[Cassie88]

The "groups" being men and women? You've lost me here.

[Asker]

Yes what other groups would I be referring to?

[Cassie88]

Okay, but like I said before, we DO get along. Your question is based upon something that just isn't true in most cases.

[Asker]

Yes I hope those types of women and men find one another. It's a mess out there.

[jennifer_bloom]

There are three things I would say - female flaws, male flaws, circumstantial flaws.

[Asker]

Life is short for a reason lol

[Anonymous]

I don't believe the average man's aspirations and behaviours have changed that much during my lifetime and I don't believe they generally need to.

Women over that period appear to be on a journey to a place that seems unclear to all.

[Anonymous]

No. Men and women just think differently fundamentally.

[Asker]

Because of different life experiences. But yes either way, they think differently lol.

[jshm2]

That's as daft as saying "is drinking water, the reason there are so many murders each day?" 100% of serial killers drink water!

[Anonymous]

There are men and woman on both sides who refuse to adapt. They shoot themselves in the foot, on repeat. Then blame everyone else for their own choices.

[Sasha0426]

I think it’s both men and women. To be fair, we never got along since the beginning of time.

[Nikki1989]

What makes you think we don't get along?

[Asker]

Generally speaking. I know it hurts hearing this. As much as I hate telling you this. No, they don't get along.

[Anonymous]

Some people will look for someone to blame for the problems that they created. Both men and women do this.

[Alcoholic_Wannabe]

There is no ultimate reason.

[Asker]

"Ultimate" meaning the first men. Early civilizations. Maybe abuse of leadership roles.

[msc545]

No, sorry, WOMEN and their demands and conditions and complaints are the reason.

[OddBeMe]

Pretty sure it’s both.

[Yansix75000]

Grand remplacement

[straightmax12]

No. Sometimes it's women's fault.

[NachtjaegerSS]

Nope.

[NachtjaegerSS]

Women have lost their collective minds and souls.

[Anonymous]

No, it's liberals.

[dolemite89]

no it’s women

[JesseJayNeak]

No. That’s cap